Why are women so repulsed by male virgins?

The same reason why women are repulsed by guys who are shorter or make less money then them. Women want men to be superior to them, that's what they are attracted to. Feminism is all bullshit, women don't actually want men and women to be equal (except for rights like voting) They view themselves as inferior to men and therefore if a man is less experienced, successful, educated, etc. then it's a huge turn off.

>Feminism is all bullshit, women don't actually want men and women to be equal
>all women think and act identically
There are more than one group of people.

Also, word of advice, avoid women who requires that you are successful and earn a lot of money. They are not fun to be around, and invariably leave you once they cashed out on your assets.

>weeding out 99.9% of women
lol

>t. Incel

>I am a lonely virgin because the world is fucked, and I refuse to take responsibility for myself, and will shift blame until the day I kill myself. Because deep down I know I'm a useless piece of shit, and that i am solely responsible for all the shit I don't have.

Who hurt you?

>makes a butthurt reply
>gets a response you don't like
>w... who hurt you?

I think that women are repulsed by desperation, which is a trait normally found in virgins. But i wouldnt go so far as toy say they are repulsed by the virginity per se. Many girls find it "cute" as a chance to be the one who teach you

Sounds like it's you who got hurt, user.

LOL

I'm not the one who got all butthurt

No they're not, they'd say they didn't like desperation if they didn't like desperation. They don't like virgin males because they are virgins, the girl even says "well at least he's a cute virgin" implying the virginity is bad but can be overlooked because the virgin is cute.

Modern women are whores who going to get raped in hell.

+1
Spot on. In my honest opinion, a virgin > guy who thinks he is God's gift to women.

Though in the end, I would never actually ask, because it doesn't matter. If the guy brings it up too much, it is a dealbreaker, but I don't care otherwise.

It seems the issue from the video is that the fact was made clear. That's a warning sign, unless you have some specific circumstances involved here (whether religious, medical or otherwise). It immediately made me think the same question he got: "why?". And as soon as that line of thought is established, you instantly lose value.

There is no point fussing over it. Most guys can fake through their first time anyway, and sex, more than anything, is one of those things you really can fake till you make it

>99,9% of all women hate virgin's, reeee it's not my fault I'm an incel!!!!1!1!!! You are all so butthurt for disagreeing with me!
Kids these days just can't accept that you have to work for things. I guess it's just easier to blame it on things you can't control, rather than take responsibility.

>boomer posting
oh no

You're also pretending to be a female on Jow Forums. In my experience, women like men that are older than them because they see them as more mature, experienced, and able to lead and protect them. So if the guy is older than them and a virgin, this is repulsive to them because it signals that he's lacking overall life experience. It also signals he's low value in some fundamental way because he couldn't attract a single girl in his entire life.

Women hate male virgins, they hate ugly men, they hate abnormal men, they hate anyone that doesn't follow normal social conventions.

Enjoy being alone.

>fake it till you make it
But isn't lying to women you're trying to sleep with bad and deceitful? Like if they find out, then it's clear you were just using them to get laid. And also wouldn't it be difficult to make up further details if pressed?

>No they're not, they'd say they didn't like desperation if they didn't like desperation
Are you assuming girls (or boys for that matter) always say what they want or even know?

>They don't like virgin males because they are virgins, the girl even says "well at least he's a cute virgin" implying the virginity is bad but can be overlooked because the virgin is cute
Don't know man, im talking from experience, some of them seemed into it

>women like men that are older than them because they see them as more mature, experienced, and able to lead and protect them.
This is true, but for a different reason. Women mature faster than men, so when a girl is mostly mature about the age of 24/25, guys can take much longer before they are fully selfsustained and capable of taking care of themselves. No one wants a manchild who struggles with everyday tasks like cleaning up, doing the laundry, etc.

>So if the guy is older than them and a virgin, this is repulsive to them because it signals that he's lacking overall life experience.
Not at all. Not sure where you get this from. Life experience isn't about sex, and most girls wouldn't ask about your virginity, and if they are getting naked and having sex with you, they are way past caring about your sexual experience. Sex is not hard, and it's really easy to learn.
>It also signals he's low value in some fundamental way because he couldn't attract a single girl in his entire life.
Hence why you don't mention it, especially early on. Last virgin I dated didn't reveal it until after the third time we had sex (he did seem a bit inexperienced, but didn't quite think "virgin), but he had a good education and job, so it made sense. He had focused on himself, rather than sleep around. That's a quality trait to have, and not at all negative.

If you are a lonely NEET living with your parents, it just adds up on the pile of inexperience, and that is indeed unattractive. But it isn't a problem by itself.

Not telling you to lie, I am telling you to not bring up the topic, unless you are specifically asked. Most girls would never ask, and you should never bring it up yourself, for any reason, not even if you are Chad Thundercock, Slayer of Pussy. No one cares about a braggart, and no one wants an insecure boy with complexes.

Some things you don't mention. Your virginity is one of them. Even if you lack it, bringing it up is bad form. It's like saying you poop once a day, and that it is always solid because you eat well. Literally no one wants to know.

Even experienced guys can act like virgin's in bed.

What are the telltale signs of a virgin in bed and how do experienced guys act like them?

Yeah, of course I'm not just gonna say it, that would be retarded lol, but how is that "fake it till you make it"?

They can't get hard because of anxiety.

What else? I’m a virgin and I get hard just talking to girls

i'll take projection for $50

Older virgins are usually virgins for a reason. They're often ugly, socially dysfunctional or both. Being a virgin in itself is not repulsive, but it is usually indicative of some other issue.

>Older virgins are usually virgins for a reason. They're often ugly, socially dysfunctional or both.

Many times they just have self-esteem issues, which are not helped by the virgintiy stuff.

But like, sometimes they fall into the trap of thinking that their flaws are inherent to them when they are very fixable.

You have to be really ugly to not be able to get any girl, like bordering on circus freak.

I agree, but being in a relationship with someone who has self-esteem issues can be incredibly draining. Guys who don't believe in themselves are often chronically jealous, for instance.

I do agree with you that those flaws can be fixed, but you should fix them before you enter a relationship because a gf isn't your personal therapist.

Basically And blowing their load too fast. It happens even to experienced guys who for some reason just get jelly with you, compared to the previous partners. Especially common for guys who only had sex with actual paid whores, or ONS sluts. A sudden change to a real partner they actually have romantic feelings for, tend to make them weird like that.

Not necessarily. Moreover, a lot of them just lack the conventionally attractive qualities, but are just fine if you actually talk to them, so they are usually good at getting into relationships if they don't let their self esteem trip them up.

>Guys who don't believe in themselves are often chronically jealous, for instance.
Girls know that more than anyone, trust me on that. My friends make any insecure guy look confident in comparison. Girls can literally be 8/10 symbols of beauty, and still think they are ugly. It's bordering on mental illness levels.

But I do agree that most girls still wouldn't bother. The saying "for others to love you, you must first love yourself" is incredibly true sometimes.

>but how is that "fake it till you make it"?
Basically, just go in doing your best in bed, and don't worry about it. Have fun, listen to her and watch her body language to the best of your ability, and don't be discouraged if she isn't screaming and squirming like a pornstar. Most guys do just fine at this, even with no prior experience.

This is your brain on eugenics. Its really sad.

How is he a virgin? Super religious?
Inalways windered about these people. What if they finally meet right girl, both virgins, date sexless for awhile then marry, and their first time instead of being magical is a somehow still loose vadge vs a half chub that finishes in 3 seconds. If their is a God I hooe they don't.do that to them.

>half chub that finishes in 3 seconds.
Girl here, even experienced guys can get an early cumshot if they are too nervous. It rarely matters, because almost all guys can get hard again in minutes, and then go for 20-30 minutes after that initial release. Even virgin's.

It's only a problem if they give up.

I wouldn't know my problem early on wasn't cumming early it was cumming at all. Which beleive it or not I think pisses off women more because they start to say you're cheating on them or they aren't good enough for you.

Your value to them is based on your value acording to society in general.

Wow I hate sex

No they aren't. I have anecdotal evidence.
If they were repulsed by the fact, they wouldn't call me back asking to go on more dates with them.
They did, more often than not.

This is correct:

It's a nice way of weeding out sluts

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I was a twenty one year old virgin when I met my girlfriend, she thought it was cute and was happy to be my first. I'm twenty four now, we've been together for three years, nearly four.

I'm dating a dude who was a virgin until he met me. He ain't even super attractive. I just love the dude.

So.

Idk.

I doubt they necessarily 'hate' virgins. But there is a simple explanation for why being a virgin at an awkward age (say 23+ or something) can be a red flag to a woman. Being a virgin all the way into your mid twenties or later signals to a woman that for whatever reason, you are apparently an undesirable male. Aka inferior genetics or inferior personality which has disabled you from successfully getting laid (reproducing). In more blunt words, being a virgin can be an indicator that you are evolutionary speaking a 'loser'. Women don't want to get pregnant by a loser. They want to make sure they pass on quality genes to their offspring.

Women are hypergamous in nature. They want to mate with high value males. Your sexual success (reproductive success) is an indicator towards them on how desirable and thus valuable you are as a male.

I've had multiple girls (like 5) show interest me.
Made out with them, did cutesy dates and cuddled, dryhumped, fondled, fingered..
But I've never had sex.
Looks whise I'd say I'm slightly above average and I also have good hygiene apart from being a smoker.
I'm not a very sexually agressive person so I guess they just got bored / thought I wasn't very interested.

>Made out with them, did cutesy dates and cuddled, dryhumped, fondled, fingered.. But I've never had sex.
If you make out with a girl, but you don't end up having sex, it's usually because you don't escalate properly. Generally speaking, a girl who's attracted to you enough to swap spit with you, is attracted to you enough to fuck you. I've only ever made out with 3 girls in my entire life and i ended up having sex with 2 of them.

This more or less, but taken in proper context.

We aren't cavemen anymore, so strength and power isn't so crucial anymore. If you are a virgin, you are not necessarily a loser, but you need to have qualities that make you desirable. If you have no desirable traits, and are a virgin, then something must be wrong with you. If you are a NEET virgin, yeah, your value is basically less than 0. If you are a virgin, but also a hardworking, highly educated, and very well paid man, you not only have an excuse, you become something more. Now being a virgin is a quality in itself, because it means you don't treat sex like an act similar to feeding, and you don't grace just anyone with your clearly superior and successful genes. It also means you are much less likely to get cheated on, since he would have had ample opportunity to do so until this point, but chose not to.

Basically, if you are a virgin, ensure you have tangible societal qualities. That way, you are still an attractive option. If you are a NEET, you already lost.

What are you, a teenager?

You most likely came off as uninterested. Girls don't go that far without wanting sex, and if you rejected their advances, or was outright passive and seemed like you didn't care, then I can understand why they would just think "nah, whatever".

Like i mentioned in user probably lacks proper escalation.

He mentioned he came as far as fingering a girl lol. If you're fingering a girl you can literally just pull down your pants and stick your dick in them.

The roasties that wasted their virginity on people that dont love them are the only people that are mad in all of this.

Sluts are probably more likely not to care, they get so much dick its nothing to add a virgin to the list, if anything they see it as a unique experience, whereas a more conservative girl wouldn't want to waste her limited dick mileage on a virgin.

>What are you, a teenager?
22 so I guess yes.
Yeah, that's what I said in my initial post, not very sexually agressive.
I suppose the girls I've dated up until now only wanted sex, seeing that they leave if I don't fuck them within a month.
It's not that I don't want to, they just don't put in a lot of effort to make it fun for me too.

>It's not that I don't want to, they just don't put in a lot of effort to make it fun for me too.
Most girls are very passive (submissive) in bed. They want the guy to take the lead.

My friend once slept in the same bed with a girl. He was too anxious/awkward to physically escalate towards having sex with her. She also didn't so anything to guide the two of them towards sex. So they basically just... slept.

A day later the girl texted a friend of hers (a girl i know) asking if he was gay or autistic or something. Because they slept in the same bed together but he didn't lead the two of them into having sex

Excuse my blogpost but I'm a 28 year old woman who's dating someone who before me, was a 28 year old virgin.

I initially thought he was the exact kind of nice guy who was in a long term relationship with a nerdy but nice gf, you know, the plain decent people that things just work out for.

Anyway we had good chemistry so I asked him out. Turns out that even though he likes me he would've never asked, so that's one thing.
The sexual part of the relationship is by far the worst. If I didn't like him so much from the get-go and deemed worthy of investment he would've been broken up with asap. I didn't mind waiting until he was ready, but he's so uneasy with it all. I have to initiate, every time. With a lot of being knocked back. His sex drive isn't so high, so I guess he never bothered to pursue anyone.
And he's too vanilla. I don't mean he's not into BDSM, but like he doesn't like oral, recieving or giving. He doesn't know what to do when I give him a handjob. He can't finger for shit. Any kind of fetishes are just completely out the window.
He's also very inflexible. He'll say "man I don't know how to do any of this stuff!". Yet when I was with partners at around 20 years old, you would adapt and discover. Like the fingering, he's read the tutorials and whatnot, but just can't seem to apply it and doesn't know how to read body reactions. I give him straight feedback but still.
He's improved a little but progress is extremely slow. What would've taken a week when younger is going to take up to a year with him to get to the same point, I think. So I can completely understand why a woman wouldn't want to date an older virgin.

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Literally the opposite. Sluts want a good fucking, not waste time trying to teach a newbie they aren't going to fuck more once or twice.

Virgin girls don't care.

Guess I'm going to have to look for a girl who actually enjoys sex and wants to participate instead of being entitled to a hard cock just for existing.
Still on good terms with all of those girls though, so it's not like they find me weird / off putting for not jackhammerring them.

Another video of women hating virgin men:
youtube.com/watch?v=mU1kQ-NSAGg

>I suppose the girls I've dated up until now only wanted sex, seeing that they leave if I don't fuck them within a month.
Or more likely, they thought you weren't interested enough, and decided to look for someone who actually was. If you seem like you are disinterested, and doing it more out of duty, then there is no point pursuing a relationship with you. You probably can't imagine it, but if a girl is in love with you, feels fluttery while around you, and wants you enough to do these sorts of things, it is an absolutely HORRIBLE feeling to have the guy seem like he doesn't care. It's like betting large on something, only to see you put a small chip in, not really interested in the outcome. It has nothing to do with sex in itself, it has to do with your interest in them in general, and newsflash, sex is part of a relationship.

>It's not that I don't want to, they just don't put in a lot of effort to make it fun for me too.
Holy autism, have you tried to voice your desires and fantasies? Have you tried telling them what you want? Have you even made the slightest attempt at guiding them, or have you just expected them to know what you want, and then gotten disappointed when they didn't?

>not very sexually agressive.
This sounds more like super passive. Girls tend to like guys in control. Not necessarily super dominating, but at least guys that know what they want. If you are so submissive that you refuse to escalate anything ever, then regardless of what they do, you will never anywhere. Very few girls would take charge if you just play dead and wait.

I feel like a lot of guys on Jow Forums have the perceived notion of women by modern media (dick size matters, looks matter more than personality, friend zone, whoring around, etc) but fail to recognize that a lot of girls in real life (not online) are good people raised by a good household.
You won't find a nice girl online or at a club, alright?

Man up, instead of being such a faggot. It sounds like you are looking for a big guy to fuck your ass without your input, not a woman.

Being a virgin and not being able to attract women are not mutually exclusive

he probably doesnt find you sexually attractive.

This. Women are naturally submissive and passive. It's the same reason why you'll rarely encounter a girl actively approaching you even if she likes you. Girls like to play the waiting game. Looking hot hoping that some cute guy will pick them up, take them home and confidently lead them towards having sex.

See female submissiveness as a good thing. If you know how to take control in the bedroom you can get a girl to do basically anything you fantasize about.

You have clearly found submissive girls. If they mess around like >Made out with them, did cutesy dates and cuddled, dryhumped, fondled, fingered..
They want you. If you want them to do something, tell them. Order them. Make them drop on all four and suck you off. This isn't rocket science. You literally have a girl that wants you, and would likely do anything you ask of her, but you decide to do nothjng with it.

Most girls are only as freaky as their boyfriends imagination allows. If the guy is a vanilla light flavoured basedboy, it'll be bland and boring. If he likes to mix it up and get weird, he could easily have her fuck him in the ass with a strap on, wearing a fucking fursuit. 9/10 Girls are sexually controlled almost entirely by how far their guy want it to go, and you decided to give them nothing to work with at all. You are not even Vanilla tier. You are the vanilla milkshake, where the asshole making it didn't check if there was any vanilla syrup remaining, and didn't give a shit.

If you blame it on those girls, you'll be a forever virgin. If you really want to get out of that rut, while changing nothing about yourself, look for dominant girls who want a submissive fag. They are rare, and a high value commodity, but they so exist. And it sounds like the only type of woman who could possibly make anything happen with someone like you.

>You won't find a nice girl online or at a club, alright?
So where would you find one?

I know many women who are raised by regular mommy daddy households who go out to clubs every weekend lol. Don't know if it's different where you guys live buy here in the Netherlands clubbing is a very socially accepted thing to do if you're single. Male or female.

Bottom line, I've personally met plenty of normal, nice girls in clubs.

This. Young people go to clubs at the weekends, that's a perfectly normal and very common thing to do for them.
The notion that it's all jersey shore rejects going out to clubs is a meme perpetuated by shut ins who watch to much media.

Same in Denmark. Clubbing is pretty ordinary, and people don't put out much, so it's not like it's all sex drugs and alcohol. I barely even drink when going out, I just go because I like dancing, and it's fun to be out with friends.

Though ironically, I am more likely to be hit on when I am alone at the local shopping mall, looking like a massive dork.

Women have unrealisitic standards. Confidence is practice but they just expect it and skills to just magically be there.

They don't want to communicate because it's "awkward" they don't want to spend time teaching/exploring. They just want someone to give them what they want before they even know what it is.

Women pretty much are a hivemind though. Look at the variety of women men are attracted, yet women are only attracted to tall and muscular men with dark hair and dark eyes.

I personally think it's a meme that originated from dudes on forums (like Jow Forums) who rarely if ever visit clubs themselves. They don't like clubbing so they pretend like all women over there are sluts to convince themselves they aren't missing out on anything.

>I barely even drink when going out
Maybe because alcohol is so ridiculously expensive in Scandinavian Snowholes for some reason.
A beer in Norway is like 8€ and don't get me started on the anti-alcoholic hell that is Sweden.

I put it on my balls, gooch and in between my ass crack just like any other part of my body and have never burned myself. Under my armpits stung a bit though. It just depends how sensitive your skin is, and the only way to find out is to try it yourself.

By the way, the best way to remove body hair is to just go get full body wax. The cream you have in your pic will not do a good job, particularly if your hair is already very long. You'll find that when you remove the cream, there will be patches where the hair doesn't come off, so you'll either have to manually shave off those areas, or wait until the following day and apply the cream again. You can reduce this by trimming your hair before applying the cream, but then that's a lot of prep work. That cream really stinks too.

Just get a wax and have it redone every 6 weeks or so.

This has been debunked numerous times.

Though of course
>Women pretty much are a hivemind
So it's pretty clear you are either trolling, or retarded.

Why are you spewing lies on a Mongolian cave paintings forum? Fuck off to r/incels, your kind is not welcome here.

He must be a reject from Jow Forums repeating the memes he was fed in his echo chamber.

I wouldn't be surprised. Usually I hear a "it's an US thing", and I can't really confirm or deny that theory.

>Maybe because alcohol is so ridiculously expensive in Scandinavian Snowholes for some reason.
Denmark is certainly expensive on that front, but that said, almost all of my friends get super drunk every time. I'm usually the one helping make sure they don't sleep on the street somewhere.

And 3/5 are somehow still virgin's, at the age of 22. Looking at them, I wouldn't fault guys for thinking they are massive sluts though, they certainly have the appearance of it. People just avoid sex with strangers here, and it's just not the point of going clubbing it seems. The whole "go home with a guy from the bar" is just not something that happens that often.

>8€ for a beer
It's like 1 buck in the Czech republic and 2.50 in Germany.
I could not live with beer prices like that.

Worth noting that our income tends to be stupidly high as well. Students get paid 900€ a month for going to school, and that's considered prohibitively poor in Denmark.

We are SUPER well off here in Denmark, so people rarely care about the price being 8€+ for a beer.

It's true though. Of course, bitches can settle for a lesser guy, but if that tall and muscular guy approached them, ya'll niggas think the bitch won't cheat? Fuck outta here.

Women are children. They dont know what theyre talking about.

You have never even kissed a girl. Stop pretending you know what women want. It's pretty clear you are a closeted homosexual since you keep raving about tall muscular guys. That's what gay guys like, not girls. You are projecting your gay tastes onto women.

I don't know why, but this kind of pisses me off. I'm fine initiating shit, but this reminds me of all the times that I didn't, or played it cool, waiting for some sign of mutual interest. Are women really so pathetic that they'll just do whatever you want in bed, and enjoy it? Are they really that dumb and spineless? Cause that makes me want to punch women, not fuck them.

>So I can completely understand why a woman wouldn't want to date an older virgin.

No you don't. You understand why somebody wouldn't want to date him. What he is like isn't an indictment of anyone but him.

>Why do women hate male virgins so much?

They dont. They do if you make a big thing out of it and whine about it, but more because of the whining than your virginity in and of itself.

t. former 28 yo male virgin

You know what? I don't actually want to have sex. I think I fucking hate it.

>I think I fucking hate it.

You're afraid is all

It's still extroverts exclusively. You're not gonna find a compatible person.

If I act like I care I seem needy and if I act like I don't care they don't go for it god damn it.

>introverts are only compatible with introverts
verifiably false.