Should welfare and child tax credit be abolished in the US

Why can’t we just send them the stuff they need instead of cash? US Government can buy in bulk at prices way cheaper. Why can’t we send them eggs and milk and stuff. It makes abuse way harder and also ensures they are getting a balanced diet. Send them ingredients with recipes. Do that Blue Apron shit but less scammy and more budget friendly. Give them a smaller allowance for small treats, so it ensures 80% of their diet is balanced and only 10-20% is nasty pizza and shit.

I can’t stand the idea of 600 lb heffers living off taxpayer dollars

This. Incentivize intact families with responsible parents and healthy children.

OR you could abolish all the welfare and let people fend for themselves, which compared to the current state would be a net subsidy to intact, productive families. It would also naturally breed more cohesive, resilient societies. Dependency is weakness.

by removing the consequences of their bad decisions, you only encourage them to make more bad decisions

>let retarded women kill their babies
>stop paying them money to have their mutts
Do both, then they have no excuse to live off the public dollar.

Thank God I’m an incel.

#notalljewsarekikes

Women are barely people, if it was in the zeitgeist to have signs saying 'gas the Jews race war now'. You'd find those same smiles.

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Yes.

>OR you could abolish all the welfare and let people fend for themselves, which compared to the current state would be a net subsidy to intact, productive families. It would also naturally breed more cohesive, resilient societies. Dependency is weakness.

Good luck getting enough people to vote for that. We can't get our nation to agree on securing our borders against the millions of people we know are pouring in for access to free shit because "they just want better lives!" and "we can't let them die!". Trying to get rid of welfare for actual citizens of this country that supposedly have a right to it would cause even more mass hysteria than we're already experiencing.

US is fucked

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3/7 are wearing those stupid chokers.

i think the US is doomed for any real change. Emotion for shitskins from the average NPC is just unrecoverable

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I did my best.

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>i think the US is doomed for any real change.

I'm really demoralized about this. I am by no means a genius, but I'm still way smarter than Horsefacio-Cortez and have more experience with how the real world works. She's now one of the most popular politicians in our country, and has a bright career in politics ahead of her pushing ridiculous bullshit legislation. The American people are voting for the downfall of our country because it's coming in a "cute" package with nice tits and a promise of double-rainbows for everybody.

Getting rid of the child tax credit is retarded, but welfare has so much garbage under it's umbrella I'm sure we could cut over 50% of the funding and be fine.

it is sad how people look up to retards like that. She has no clue what she is talking about. I'm sure the average Jow Forums poster knows leagues more than her.. This country is just so fuckin ridiculous. I don't know if the only option is just living off-the-grid for awhile which is what my boomer dad wants to do.

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This. You shouldn't get credit for failing to bond with a man.

white knights/beta fags are the most ridiculous ive ever seen these days. any decent bitch with tits talking politics will get voted just because

Yeah, imma need to taste that ass

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can you imagine even being able to get it up in such a shit situation, in a shit environment, surrounded by such trash?

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>She has no clue what she is talking about. I'm sure the average Jow Forums poster knows leagues more than her..

That's the scariest thing about it. It would take the average Jow Forums poster about 20 minutes to source and review a couple of infographics and be more informed than Horsefacio on a given subject. She not only has access to the internet, but an entire staff of people whose job it is to do research, write reports and speeches, and make sure she's informed on the issues her and THIS is the best she can do? The average American also has access to the internet and can relatively instantly fact-check or research any pie-in-the-sky shit she says, and maybe 1/3 of politically active people are doing that. Insanity.

What really grinds my gears is that she's a well-off young woman with a degree in Econ from a pretty nice college, and yet she seems to lack intermediate diction or the ability to write or cite a research paper, which is literally all schooling in America teaches you to do from about age 13. There is no greater indication that American politics and college education are a scam than that AOC is a college graduate and one of our leading politicians.

Chapter Jackson - It's Free Swipe Yo EBT (Explicit)

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unrelated kek

Imagine being too retarded to crop a picture

she should proof what shse buys with those 800$ and if she doesn't spend it on her child, punishher.

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Child support isn't welfare, that's what the dad pays himself.

Yea it should the administrative cost to the US has decimated our economy and financial standing. Get rid of the bureaucracy and enact a UBI when the robots take over

Wow these people are real parasites

You can’t enforce that without deliberately ignoring the constitution and ignoring “life liberty and the pursuit of happiness”

No eyebrows

Maybe we should look at why she is popular? Tucker is right, if our current politicians dont change something we will get socialism

Yeah fuck social security I want to work until I'm on my deathbed which won't take very long without medicare or medicaid.

ban child support. stop helping her evade the consequences of her bad decisions. return to:"if you want to fuck - marry!"

lol everyone who disagrees with trickle down must be illiterate cause shitty school XD
Numerous economists have come out in favor of her tax proposal AND Warren's wealth tax.

As much as they disgust me, the men willingly cucking themselves are not forcing me to get involved. But why does the state force me to help pay for some other man's child? What did I do to deserve this punishment?

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Welfare should be abolished. It should be replaced with tax credits. Universal basic tax credit. $12,000/year tax cut for all taxpayers. And treat Social security annuities as bond interests that are tax free.
Tax credits for families with children should be higher for married couples. And health insurance should be fully deductible if you have children under 18.

she has no tax proposal. She has been BTFO on youtube countless times. You are an idiot.

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How come the dad gets a slap on the wrist for not staying with her? We don't even know why they're not together. Forcing people to stay together just makes it ripe for domestic violence and child abuse.

You mean conservatard youtubers paid to shill the agenda are reputable sources? Color me shocked :0

Insurance industry won't tolerate any of that. They stopped universal healthcare back in 1993 they can stop this.

The photo is added on, it's not in the original tweet. Stop making these gay threads, OP.

that is by no way ignoring “life liberty and the pursuit of happiness” - you may have forgot, but liberty means not only that you are free to do what you want, but also that no one but you is responsible for the consequences of your actions. She can abort her baby - and be charged for murder. she can go to study and make a career (as a nun) - but not for getting a husband.
Is there anything I am missing?

Animals have no problem fucking in public.

They took a hard look at what she is saying and she is literally throwing garbage out of her mouth that makes no sense. Do you want to prove her tax proposal isn't a pile of shit? Or are you just gonna throw around insults like a 12 year old?

Over 50% of your child support payment is for actual house/utilities.
I'm not fucking joking.
You actually pay for the woman to pay her rent.
So if you owe 1.2k dollars in child support the court calculates that 600 dollars of it should be going to the woman's god damn rent, it's insane.
They justify it by saying you should be paying for your baby to have a house to live in, but that's not the reality of things.
Of course the mother often abuses the money and doesn't use it for its intended purpose.
They can "use" it however they want according to the law, but that's not how it's calculated.

However you're right.
If your child support is 300 USD, than 150 of it should be given in the form of bulk foods with no actual money transaction happening at all.
The other 150 should be automatically allocated to utilities or rent.
The woman should actually get no form of money whatsoever. In a better system this is how it would work, but women are fucking snakes.

They tried this system some years ago and women kept bitching, because it's not about supporting the child.
These women literally got pregnant for a paycheck and they want that money.
Even though it's not legally their money, it's the child's money. and good look proving that a woman is abusing they money. good fucking luck. because odds are they will turn it around on you and somehow make you pay more child support.

>>Forcing people to stay together just makes it ripe for domestic violence and child abuse.
unless the husband is a heavy drinker or drug addict, he won't beat a submissive wife. And occasionally spanking his children to keep them in line is NOT child abuse.
If history has taught us anything is that government intervention vas NEVER a good idea.

>She can abort her baby - and be charged for murder.
Ultimatums are not choices, you cannot say that women HAVE to be homemakers and mothers without denying them their right to pursue a career as you’ve said you would
>relieve women from the burden of choosing their path in life - leave only ONE option: "to be a wife and a mother" - abolish welfare(so if she wants to be taken care of in old age - she must raise good children with her husband)
That’s not a choice, you’re enforcing draconian laws that aren’t capatible with the US constitution

what is it with child support? you either can support the child, and thus keep him, or, if you can't, give him to an orphanage or adoption.

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i already answered:

i have already addressed this
>204471752

>Declaration of Independence rhetoric
>Constitutional government mandate
pick one

The authors of these documents if revived today, would tell you down to the man, every single one, that the system they envisioned is incompatible with this post-modern gynocracy.

i have already addressed this

I have two children with two different women.

My first child was made in a lustful mistake by a young whore while I was fighting as your Goy in the sand wars.
The child was born while I was deployed, I had no knowledge of the child until 6 years after the child was born when I had already had my second child with my current wife.

I did not consent to having said child, nor do I acknowledge it. The mother of ChildA tried to force me to pay 6 years in child support, but thankfully the law states if she can not prove I knew of the child. I do not have to pay child support for those years. I still have 10 years left to pay though.

It is a horrible burden, what is worse is she remarried and had another fucking child and she lives with this new man who I cucked unintentionally.
So I am literally paying child support to pay for this new man and new child to use. So who is the real cuck?
Meanwhile the financial burden on my wife and actual child is huge.
The court is a hypocrisy and they don't give a shit at all about "helping women or children". It's all a lie, as we are much worse off and yet the court would allow my wife and child to go homeless without a second thought. Meanwhile if I fail to make one payment to that whore I can be thrown in jail.

I love my wife and child and I have sacrificed every dollar I have to them now.

The reality is men should be able to consent to having a child and if the man does not consent and the woman chooses to keep the child. Than she is entirely responsible and the man absolved of any responsibility.

I'm talking clear contract, if a woman finds out she is pregnant she has a 6 month period to either get an abortion or for the man to at least consent to a pending paternity test.
If the man consents to a pending paternity test he automatically assumes he might be the father.
When the child is born the child is automatically given a blood test to rule this judgement.

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getting a tax return isnt good brainlet.

talking in ebonics, burger flag likely posting burger sloots, here i am mostly shit talking you burgers but this time... i just... this is sad

Welfare can stay but the child tax credit needs to go. People should not be having children they cannot afford wothout assistance

Just did my taxes, my wife and I made 2 white kids so we got $4k back on our refund. That's the only government assistance we get. I can't complain.

That's from the Declaration of Independence, not the Constitution.

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Obligatory reminder that the only election she ever won was a low turnout primary in a district so blue that no Rs bothered running.

Abortions as a form of birth control is literally the most selfish, ridiculously oblivious, self unaware shit tier thing any human being could do.
>It's my right to end a life short because I couldn't be bothered to use birth control in a first world control
>I can kill babies instead of just closing my legs when I'm not ready to have kids.
Seriously the self delusion needs to fucking end right now. And we need to stop catering to this shit. In a world with free condoms at health clinics and tons of birth control anyone actually getting an abortion outside of rape and medical is fucking disgusting.

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Her green new deal literally calls for spending more money than there is in existence.

holy shit. must be a crackwhore?

>white hispanic

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Old tweet, that child has passed away

Those legs contain some well marbled steaks.

t. Have processed large mammals for consumption.

Yes
100%

>welfare
no, heavily reduced and a pathway to (gainful) employment. Basically, join the military as active duty, but for a civilian population instead.
>child tax credit
hell no, if anything it should be raised. We want more native population growth, but less foreigner population growth. So incentivising 3rd generation and forward immigrants with a higher tax credit would be ideal. If some japs make it here for grandkids, they and their kids are pretty american. they'd get to have a couple kids (replacement), and get a tax credit for each of them. That uncaps for their grandchildren. More native, less foreign and the foreign is more naturalized/indoctrinated.

Based jew

scrap all of it

>slap on the wrist
He’s indebted to an ex for 18 years, and on the 18th birthday, finds out it wasn’t his

Walmart would go under, niggers, single moms, and irresponsible people would die in the street, and politicians would be held accountable. The latter is why there will always be cash for gibs.

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Yes. Let them all starve please.

It's the black belt of sucking dick

Remove welfare entirely if you think handing money to impulsive poor morons is gonna stop them from being impulsive idiots you must be retarded.

the zionist beast consumes more and more everyday

Child support should be abolished. It's sexist extortion and racketeering. Anyone who collects child support deserves to be murdered, raped, and skullfucked by hyenas.

What do we do lead bro?

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...should be abolished everywhere in the west!

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>Maybe we should look at why she is popular?

I think part of the reason we're so pessimistic is because we already know why she's popular: We're living in a weird dystopian hybriad of Idiocracy and Brave New World. AOC is popular because she's young, cute, checks the necessary diversity boxes, and most importantly because her platform caters to immature adults using emotional pleas and idealism. In short, she's successful because her target audience is at least as ignorant and idealistic as she is, but probably a lot more.

We may be talking about AOC here, but we're not so much lamenting that she's succeeding. The problem is that enough Americans are stupid, childish, and demoralized by media and society that somebody as as useless as her can be called a success. Her poorly researched and articulated talking points sway so many people that even other Democrats who know better are pretending to take her seriously. That's how bad this is. It's a cult of personality, not completely unlike the one around Trump.

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She's obese and ugly.

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