It takes a huge toll on the parents, the health care workers, the society at large and finally the patient who is ultimately locked inside of a defective body to suffer until we finally allow it to die. Which considering our current technology, could be a long fucking time. Most of the time the parents are off living their own lives while their child is just rotting in a hospital bed out of sight and out of mind.
what gives you the right to decide taking the life of another for the sake of convenience?
Asher Bennett
What gives you the right to save it at the expense of others simply because the technology exists?
James Green
These people would be dead otherwise, but heroic intervention keeps them alive for hundreds of thousands of dollars a year, and for what? So you can feel good about keeping that potato alive even though you have exiled it from society as it rots away in a hospital bed?
Strong response, seen a lot of well thought out arguments today from britbongs, must be the sharia
Colton Harris
I'm a schizo. I was raised in two drug rings because the police waited for the right moments to act and do stings, and which I end up never being removed from and placed elsewhere. I blame in one half my mother and those people, and the police, even if doing the right thing in perhaps the long run for other, for making me a casualty. Let alone all the other people that never did anything, social works, etc. I'm fucked, I really cannot do shit.
Where does the fault lay then, Jow Forums? What's to be done with me? Someone who is just purely a victim? Spending my life jumping at shadows wanting to die.
Thomas Perry
medication does not help?
Ryder Adams
Drugs were what caused it. I was drug, drugged and raped, and more. My problems are development due to my brain literally being messed up. It's not from lack of force of personality or missing character elements. It's also just kinda disingenuous to think pills can fix everything. The last two mediation I was on both caused me problems and did nothing positive. One put me into an active state of panic for a full week and a half, and the other made my dick not work.
The point I'm trying to raise is that what of people who are victims of the state when they otherwise should've gotten help but didn't for reasons X, Y, or Z?
Caleb Williams
>Medication Anti-psychotics are by and large a human experiment. We only vaguely understand how the system works save to say that excess dopamine is involved. We essentially sedate them until they aren't crazy anymore. Most of the schitzo's I've met in clinic ended up as poly drug abusers of one sort or the other. They bounce around from between the streets and inpatient healthcare until they are stable and get sent out to try again in a world they lack the capacity to manage effectively.
As for you, functional requirements would have to be met to gauge your capacity. You would either meet them, exceed them, or fall short.
There are always casualties. The drug war's current approach is perhaps wrong, most people at this point would agree that it has failed. Regardless you are a casualty of that situation, and the people who brought you into it are ultimately to blame not the police or the state. If anything they at least ended it, it could have gone on for however much longer.
Wyatt Bailey
>You would either meet them, exceed them, or fall short. And should I fail you'd try to kill me. Like I or other people with a brain enough would let you try to kill them. It's the same problem with literal unironic Right Wing death squads. The whole situation you should be worried about is the race thing that's gonna go the was of the Serbs and Albs more likely than anything else. Then you can try to deal with us.
Nolan Stewart
If you want them to die why would you make them younger?
I wish this was coherent. What I got out of it is you are probably going to get gassed. How would we find you? In this case the moment you were taken from your parents, put in foster care, assessed and then goodnight. There is no 6th sense, road runner-esk escape into the wild blue yonder. Especially if you had been raised in a culture that accepted it as an alternative to the suffering you would experience should we try to keep you alive by any means necessary. In that sense morality is relative.
If thats what G-D wanted he would have had them born with ventilators and G-tube's already implanted in them. These are defective units that were meant to die and would have 100 years prior. If anything you are defying G-Ds wishes by keeping them locked up in their flesh prison.
Nolan Price
they are like 0.0001% of the population so there is plenty of resources and support to provide them
Robert Cook
Not letting them having children sounds more reasonable
Xavier Cox
God defied reality user. God is adaptable to change provided we have nothing but kindness in our hearts.
I pity you user.
You need lots and lots and lots of hugs. :)
Lincoln Howard
I am as a hobby. Har har, I'm a fucking cliche. >I wish this was coherent. I was turned over in favor of other people in a system that carries the presumption of protection for its people. Others were saved, but because them being so I was not. You say I am owed nothing and should be killed for what is ultimately a sacrifice on my part. >In this case the moment you were taken That's the point, I wasn't. Everyone knew what I was going through, and nobody cared enough to help me.
I might be mad, and currently sleep deprived, but you live in a disillusion world if you ever think your Right Wing-whatever will ever come to fruition.
Matthew Roberts
Firstly, they are not 0.0001% of the population, that would only be 35K in a country of 350 million. That’s the population of Huntington’s disease sufferers alone. There are about 100K people with parkinsons and huntingtons alive at any given time, but thankfully the condition is terminal and they do eventually die and experience some mercy. 5.2 million patients with Alzheimers. Schizophrenia affects 1.1% of all populations, it’s a human problem that transcends regional boundaries, 3.5 million in the US. There are over 800K Cerebral palsy patients in the US. Have you ever seen anyone with cerebral palsy, huntingtons, parkinsons, alzheimers or other serious mental disease? It’s torture and they have no agency, they are not people anymore, just the remnants of biomachines. Those are just figures for random things that came to mind.
Money wasn't mentioned in the OP, though it is surely a thing. CP children cost an average of 1 million dollars each. So you missed the point entirely the way only a leaf could. The ultimate point is suffering for all involved, a forsaken child, a damaged family, and strained healthcare workers who must deal with the day to day care while the family that goes on to have other children and live their lives. Payment, while expensive is a relevant secondary concern but at a certain point the quality of life vs cost benefit equation does have to come up. And no, simply having the cash to burn on something does not make it the right thing to do. Try again.
Lincoln Gonzalez
Platitudes, grow up.
Jaxon Scott
>Everyone knew what I was going through, and nobody cared enough to help me. Sacrifices must be made. Whoever was watching that situation waiting for a moment to strike was making a weighted decision. You got caught in the crosshairs and I'm sorry it had to be that way, but in this scenario you took one for the team. Who knows how many people your sacrifice saved. Though I don't have a lot of hope for junkies in general they probably all just found their dope elsewhere once that flop house got destroyed.
>delusional Unfortunately for you I'm merely broaching a subject that's already circulating in medical circles. And while my colleagues might not gas you, they are certainly wondering why the fuck they are keeping certain types of people alive only to live on in agony. And push comes to shove, the system will break down, it's simply too expensive to continue on like this. My guess is only the most basic of care will be afforded to all, while upgraded care will be offered to the rich. As it is even illegal immigrants get top tier care as long as their problem is emergent. That drain will create a situation where everybody is eventually penalized because no one can find it within themselves to say no.
Nicholas Hernandez
If God would have wanted them to live, wouldn't he prevent their deaths in the first place?
Angel Bell
Or have had them born non-defective in the first place?
Liam Butler
no u rekt
Dylan Moore
I don't know. In short, some of us are justified in our disjunction, and you are welcomed to try. Just don't expect things not to be fun.