1/2 billion dollar LA "mansion"

>1/2 billion dollar LA "mansion"
>framed with cheap young pine and plywood

is american construction just one big fratboy prank? Not that I mind outmemeing a mansion douche with meme construction.

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Take this back to your /diy/ containment board

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>dude, lets just hide problems behind the drywall and then like totally resell the house for protif lol
youtube.com/watch?v=f585VMg6yD0

>dude lets just spray toxic shit on wood to choke the wood and people living in the house lol
youtube.com/watch?v=Bse58aGfJ0M

is american construction one big elaborated prank done by fratboys?

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>Njihova građevina općenito je šala

neboderi i neki veliki projekti su impresivni neironicno al pricante kuce...bizarno buraz, bizarno...

>Reported for not Jow Forums

how are systematic construction scams not politics?

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It's all about the floorspace. Square footage. Disposable housing.

free market capitalism
this shit happens everywhere though

>this shit happens everywhere though

europe doesnt have nowhere near as much as crazy problems with residential construction technology as america, we are a poor country but our houses can survive tank shells and can last at least 100 years and rarely anyone has problems, how is that a thing?

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What is with you and your concern with using wood for construction.

These wood homes are better, stronger and cheaper to build than brick homes from 200 years ago

And most people in Europe can’t afford their own private home

Dont americans do that because of earthquakes or cyclones or some shit.

I noticed it too when I was there. But theres a good reason why they use ply wood. I cant remember why.

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this is how 99% of the world's construction is done
LMFAO
> living like a gook

In California, brick and mortar has issue because all of the cities are built on the San Andreas fault line.

Lousiana and LA.
Both use plywood. One for Cyclones, one for earthquakes.
It doesnt snow at either place therefore no insulation is required. Cheaper to replace plywood every 10 years.

Now I Memba.

Its cheap as fuck and goes up quick saving on labor, thats literally the only reason. Modern houses are garbage.

houses of this size more than likely have steel beam elements. The exterior will also be covered with stone. but basically all mansions are wood frame structures.

Who builds a city based on a computer game anyway?.

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A stone facade over shit board is a shit shack.

>And most people in Europe can’t afford their own private home

house ownership is high in all non-western europe countries, but that aside, capital you need to put out for those houses in terms of work and material isnt even that much higher compared to an OSB craphouse.

>wood homes

stop insulting wood. That is a GLUEhouse, not a WOOD house.

>Dont americans do that because of earthquakes or cyclones or some shit.

they tell you that and its total bs to hide the fact their construction is corrupt af and runned by goodol republican types named Chip Lee who together with ((())) get majro money.

if you want quake proof or tornado proof go RC beam like we and Florida does.

It requires far more labour, its only quicked compared to concrete builds.

>brick and mortar

that is reinforced concrete which is best method against quakes.

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>saving on labor

its a non issue, all of them use cheap illegal mexicans anyway. Its about saving time and getting payback quick + using shit materials to save on them also. its ugly and grotesque, the whole scene.

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Rammed earth goes up just as quickly as McChip-board and is infinitely superior as a material.

Lmfaoooo too good. Beta and his chink buy a house and he has no hands on skills, total sucker.

isn't Croatia just a plethora of Turkish rape babies and the laughing stock of Europe, literally gypsies?

there is literally nothing wrong with pine you dipshit. just because its numerous doesnt mean the wood is bad.
why do niggers hate pine so much?

>Niami's chief architect, a wry Irishman named Paul McClean, acknowledges that prices have become divorced from reality.

AROUND MICKS PREPARE FOR TRICKS

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>dude lets just put the worst quality "wood" on roof and totally prank the people in it when it starts leaking lol

>Beta and his chink buy a house and he has no hands on skills, total sucker.

faggot javascripter deserved it, my problem is that regular folk shouldnt get pranked on.

>isn't Croatia just a plethora of Turkish rape babies and the laughing stock of Europe, literally gypsies?

triggered mcmansionist detected.

>there is literally nothing wrong with pine you dipshit. just because its numerous doesnt mean the wood is bad.

its TOO YOUNG dude, pine is actually strong when its of proper age and with a dense grain.

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This, I never understood why anyone would do this. They even went out of their way to put the criminal minorities in there. Absolute crazy.

>is *latinx construction just one big *beaner prank?
Yes.

No, lad. LA was Lebensraum tier until the post-war era. The police used to irl kill and torture pornographers, jews and shitalians in organized crime even after. It wasn't a blue state until the 80's or 90's. Ever since then it has become a kind of never-ending David Lynch movie that spans most of the West Coast. The badguys and bugmen won.

>beaner prank

nah, its americans names Chip Lee and Billy Bob who are bosses on the sites, beaners are actually very skilled as masons but Chip Lee doesnt make them fullfill their potential.

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Nobody cares about your monicker, humble faggot

>last at least 100 years
Rich people dont want old houses
If you have land in an expensive area people will demo old mansions in good condition to just build some new home

What exactly would you make it out of? Most places on earth are relatively calm in terms of climate and disasters. Even for some events such as earthquakes you would want wood framing anyway because it has a little give instead of crumbling like bricks

Only environment where you wouldn’t want wood would be if you got a lot of rain and high winds like Florida. And guess what structures are often built with in Florida nigger? Concrete blocks

It's probably in a great neighbourhood, some schmuck will always buy it. No need for brick and mortar.
If you had a billion dollars for a house you'd treat it like a disposable object too and move on to the next one after 5-10 years.

Inc GOAT construction

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>Even for some events such as earthquakes you would want wood framing anyway because it has a little give instead of crumbling like bricks
>And guess what structures are often built with in Florida nigger? Concrete blocks

Florida and rest of sane world uses REINFORCED CONCRETE for basic run of the mill house not concrete blocks for loading you absolute dumbass.

Legit log cabins and timber frames are a leage of its own and not to be mistaken with an OSB craphouse.

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>What exactly would you make it out of?
Misaligned prefab concrete slabs like everything in the architectural powerhouse that is cr*tea

Concrete block is reinforced concrete you dumb nigger you put rebar through it

You know some of us are actually involved in real estate development right, not LEGO sets

>its americans names Chip Lee and Billy Bob who are bosses on the sites
Why do Europeans have this utterly retarded conception of how migration works in this country? No, the "bosses" aren't Appalachian hillbillies who shipped out West to fuck over the coloreds. The people you're referring to are boomer contractors trying to fuck over skilled white tradesmen, like the politicians and everyone else. Most of our masons used to carry on traditions they learned from the old country, their fathers taught them how to work with stone and brick, they learned from their fathers, etc. Now rich people want to build McMansion out of plywood and maybe put in a brick facade of some sort, if they don't want the place to look as cheap. Like most issues related to land real estate and the way things are built here, this is an incredibly compex and multi-layered issue, on top what happened to the mentality of this place. But we used to build god tier structures for housing, transit, even public forums in some instances. The fact that things like pic related are no longer allowed to exist is why I unironically believe there is no more "American culture".

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Frame-building is economical, the issue is that the banks and real estate market is gamed and over speculated because no one want to take a loss on investment properties (fucking lousy bubble markets)

A modern american home is pretty much a poured footed foundation, load bearing walls with 16 inch studs for the outside, resin impregnated chip board for the external cladding with a moisture barrier tyvec covering, vinyl siding or brick facade, gypsum plaster board with polyurethane or fiberglass/rockwool insulation. It's all the same shit really, and the only difference depends on locality, our houses here in Arizona use more stucco and wire mesh to reduce cracking from thermal expansion. the roofing is terracotta.

I personally would want a timber-framed house because the ingenious joinery, and the use of locally sourced materials. There's so much to consider into building a house, like expansive clay, erosion, humidity, and nature's trials.

Tornado not cyclone

>The people you're referring to are boomer contractors trying to fuck over skilled white tradesmen, like the politicians and everyone else.

that is what I was reffeing to, dont blame hard working mexicans that try to get some work. Its mostly your own weasels who sell you toxic materials as insulations and hire pretty high skilled mexican masons.

I have always wondered about sound in american houses, if you fart to people hear it across the walls?

>our houses here in Arizona use more stucco and wire mesh to reduce cracking from thermal expansion. the roofing is terracotta.

do you still do those beautiful adobe houses?

>if you fart to people hear it across the walls?

yes. you would even hear an eurofat, now image how much do you hear and muttfart through that chineese drywall.

No, plumber in AZ the Mexicans are shit workers
Majority are shit
There’s the exception but majority are shit
You don’t know what the fuck ur talking about fag
Hire white people to do your work in Arizona and you get quality work, hire brown people and you get shitty work

>that is reinforced concrete which is best method against quakes.
No, it isn't.
Concrete fractures under the SLIGHTEST movement, and soaks up water like a sponge leading to mold.

Know what Croatian homes are notorious for?
simicdom.com/blog/what-to-note-when-buying-an-old-house-in-croatia/
black mold.

I blame them all you ignorant faggot.

>It doesnt snow at either place therefore no insulation
Louisiana here. Southern Louisiana in fact. It snows every now and then. Last Winter it snowed a good 4 times. Insulation is needed in modern homes because of air conditioning and keeping the heat out. and cold in. We build so much shit out of wood because we have an abundance of wood, so it's cheap. Cypress isn't cheap though, and it's awesome because it super rot resistant. My house is 50 years old and still has the original cypress siding.

>Concrete fractures under the SLIGHTEST movement

yes. does it brake with impact?

>black mold.

air it out. what is the problem?

look at who your constractors and builders are, almost exclusivly WASP types do those OSB shitshacks, wop mafia do high steel in east coast, but OSBcraphouses are done by WASP builders mostly.


>Cypress isn't cheap though, and it's awesome because it super rot resistant. My house is 50 years old and still has the original cypress siding.

nooooice.

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Only construction workers in California are the guys who make paper mache sets for Hollywood movies.

>guys, lets like totally build a house that looks as a legit house from outside, but from the inside lets build it like shitty IKEA furniture and like totally get profit from that bro lol

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>kick (((wall)))
>hole happens

anyone have anything useful to say about monolithic domes? I am in the market to build a home and I keep coming back to it for a variety of reasons that seem beneficial. I've only done cursory research so if you know about any red flags, i'd love to hear about it.

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There are historical buildings in the old portions of our city, but new developments are sadly the frame style. The stucco exterior is pigmented concrete. So when the wall is tacked on, wrapped, and then instead of siding or brick, they put wire meshed grids which the stucco is thrown on.

>mold
>airing out cracked concrete
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!

This yugoslavian dumbfuck keeps posting this same thread about how he knows nothing about construction or engineering. Wood houses are superior to concrete or brick houses and yes that includes the frame+plywood/osb construction used in North America and Scandinavia. These house have incredible strength, great insulation, can be easily modified, breathable (European houses have terrible indoor air quality, talking first world countries, would hate to see the average dump they call houses in yugoslavia), have far more flexible floorplans, ect, ect. Why the fuck would you waste your money on an inflexible, moldy, cold, ugly, and expensive brick or concrete house?

>monolithic domes

>>mold
>>airing out cracked concrete

u on drugs bro, cant you even read what I said?

>frame style

problem isnt framing, Tudor houses were framed as well its quality of materials primarily.

>monolithic domes

generally impractical for living but strong.

>generally impractical for living but strong.
Impractical how? The floorplans are pretty normie tier with all the usual upper-middle class shit.

>Wood houses are superior to concrete or brick houses and yes that includes the frame+plywood/osb construction used in North America and Scandinavia. These house have incredible strength, great insulation, can be easily modified, breathable

african mudhut is structurally and biologically superior to an american/canadia OSBcraphouse. OSBframing is subhuman dogshit, an insualt to intelligence honestly, they are literally LAYERS OF STUPIDITY in it - stupid outer, stupic Tyvek, stupid OSB, stupid insulation, stupid framing, roof, foundation, stupid LEAF.

>Impractical how?

the curvature of the walls complicates furniture but also adds expenses to roofs, windows etc.

what material are you interested? give me a pic.

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>Wood houses are superior to concrete or brick houses and yes that includes the frame+plywood/osb construction used in North America and Scandinavia.

and do not use "wood house" in same sentence as OSB.

t.

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5th year architecture student here

Its about the intricacy of the construction as well as using skilled labor to construct the project. Also building groundworks are extremely expensive, anything that involves being below ground level or requires excavation is 3-4x more expensive than whatever it would cost to be above gound. Cost would also be associated with the major engineering and consultancy required for such a project. Probably km's of wiring and hundreds of thousands of dollars worth of electronics to run house. Then we can start on the luxury materials that clad the inside and outside of the building. Probably using materials from every continent on Earth. Custom furnishings and hardware + rare/luxury materials. It all adds up very quickly. They're probably also factoring in the cost of the artwork inside the house too, which could easily inflate the price.

Nice! Croatbro faggot back again. Missed your construction autism!

monolithic.org
buncha hippies run it but i caught wind of it when one of these survived a direct hit from a tornado, another survived a hurricane, and another survived fires in california.

monolithic.org/benefits/benefits-survivability/a-testament-to-the-dome-shape

>not using plywood on a roof
how else would you do it? Put plywood on the beams, put tarpaper down, put shingles. Am I missing something?

OSB is more than good enough for the majority of houses, in the places where it is not due to extreme weather you step up to plywood. A house properly constructed and cladding that uses OSB will easily last over a hundred years. Houses in 80s started moving to OSB and the vast majority of them have no problems and that was when the cladding materials were far less advanced.

>Stupid Insulation
? The fuck you talking about, the average North American and Scandinavian house have far better insulation than the average yuropean houses. Concrete and brick are poor insulators, also they do not breath so houses become moldy and stuffy.

>roof
What is wrong with the roofing? Asphalt shingles last over three decades and do not cost much not replace and have significantly better thermal performance compared to roof tiles.

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>Missed your construction autism!

I have to reform my posts on pol not to get banned as I did, wad up!

>monolithic.org

Im very sceptical about those dome construction honestly. not about their structural strenght but IRL living conditions.

>survived a direct hit from a tornado,
>another survived a hurricane, and
>another survived fires in california.

meh. all central europe style houses with RC frames and brick would survive that. you are missing out on concrete civil builds bro.

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This is how they live in Croatia

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Shut the fuck up, third worlder

Framed and OSB houses, which are strong than the cabin in your picture, are wood houses

>A house properly constructed and cladding that uses OSB will easily last over a hundred years.

moisture > walls >moisture in walls > OSB dissolves

>This is how they live in Croatia

true.

>Framed and OSB houses, which are strong than the cabin in your picture, are wood houses

AHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAAHAHA

*inhales*
*toxic fumes from OSB get in lungs

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHHAHAHAAHAHAHAA

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I heard it is because of capitalism.

The luxury homebuilders use wood because it is cheap.

There are other materials than wood, however homebuilders are always saying "MUH PROFIT MARGINS"

>meh. all central europe style houses with RC frames and brick would survive that. you are missing out on concrete civil builds bro.

lol, the shitty houses in yurope cannot even stand up to the rare weak ass F3 tornadoes that occur in yurope. Imagine what a North American F4 or F5 would do.

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>not living in a roman villa made of roman concrete

Louisiana construction.. Tropics.. Southern Us/East Coast.
>Wood is pretty cheap. Wood flexes as the soils (swamp) are soft. OSB is garbage. Ply is alright as long as seams are sealed from elements.
>Houses are old antiques that can't be built anymore (woodwork too costly). Repair with new wood rather than tear down. Hopefully.
The woodwork in the States is nice (historic neighbourhoods). I live in a certified historic home. One of 90,000 in entire US. The McMansions are gross. To build stone/concrete here is unnecessary. To build wood frame houses in Croatia is stupid and ugly. Does not really fit the European look. Also, the modern Euro McMansions in Spain, Dalmacia, etc are disgusting. The builders and owners need to be shot.
t.Dalmatian in Louisiana

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Being a massive faggot myself, I like construction men more than I care to admit.

I'm curious what's your take on concrete houses, with re-enforcement steel (rebar)? You've got strong opinion on wood-glue-fungus-food OSB but modern concrete?

In Iceland we have this legacy tradition of building concrete houses rather than wood houses because we had no trees in the past but had access to concrete materials. So we have shit load of 1950s towards 1990s concrete houses that have rebar (5x5 cm towards 2x2 cm spacing) but no cladding (just paint), it's hell to refurbish them though.

That's fine but you can't stand closer than 5 feet to the wall.

Brick won't survive higher end tornadoes. Pretty much only concrete will survive and f5 depending on what objects are being thrown around.

I know you've mentioned that stone is one of the more reliant methods for construction, but can I add stucco on the outside of it?

You should honestly have a YT channel dedicated to construction theories and materials that are the strongest to make a house last longer. Have you ever thought about that?

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>plywood
>then some kind of paper
>then shingles (some sort of wooden tile??)
No you clothhead you use corrugated iron, coated against weathering.

>moisture > walls >moisture in walls > OSB dissolves

lol is this your knowledge level? OSB does not dissolve on contact with water, it is rated for so much water per unit area per unit time. A properly cladded house will control for this and will maintain the vapor at levels where the OSB will last indefinitely.

>*toxic fumes from OSB get in lungs
OSB and plywood sheets are offgased after manufacturing, the scant amount of fumes given off by these materials after this process is far far less harmful that the significant amounts of mould inhaled by living in a concrete house and far far less harmful than the off gases given off by varnishes used on the wood for that cabin.

>never-ending David Lynch movie that spans most of the West Coast
This sounds kino af though just for a visit.

Corrugated steel, or zinc aluminum composite*

Yeah obviously I don't mean literally iron.

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It's better to have a bigger house though. And alot of people build their own homes, which is great because you can design it to your liking instead of living in some stone relic from the 1800s

Pure corrugated zinc would be pretty sweet though. Not sure what would happen if it rains though. Does zinc explode on contact with water?

Brick homes like that are really great. I grew up in a house like that.

Nothing would happen. Needs to be like 250C to oxidize.

Due to extensive research done by the University of Pittsburgh, zinc has been confirmed as the hardest metal known to man. The research is as follows:
Pocket-protected scientists built a wall made of iron and crashed a zinc car into it at 400 miles per hour, and the car was unharmed. They then built a wall out of water and crashed a car made of zinc moving at 400 miles an hour into the wall, and the wall came out fine. They then crashed a zinc car made of 400 miles per hour into a wall, and there were no survivors. They crashed 400 miles per hour into a water travelling at zinc car. Western New York was powerless for hours. They rammed a wall made of zinc into 400 miles an hour made of water, and the resulting explosion shifted earths orbit 400 million miles away from the sun, saving the earth from a meteor the size of a small Washington suburb that was hurtling towards mid-western Prussia at 400 billion miles an hour. They shot a water made of zinc at a car moving at 400 walls per hour, and as a result caused over 10000 wayward planes to lose track of their bearings, and make a fatal crash with over 10000 buildings in downtown New York. They spun 400 miles at zinc into iron per wall. The results were inconclusive. Finally, they placed 400 water per hour in front of a car made of zinc travelling at miles per iron, and the result proved with out a doubt that zinc were the hardest metal of all time, if not just the hardest metal known to man.

the support frame is steel beams retard

Its for earthquakes the lumber bends where masonry would crack.

Steel gets prohibitivly expensive in non comercial projects but for 500,000,000 .....

Castles are based and redpilled

I live in the Los Angeles Metropolitan area. My house is made of stone and has been here for 80 some odd years. Get fucked, Croat.

Our ancestors lived in caves, it's time we go back to living in caves

The first video takes place in Canada not America. And Sheetrock is utilized in new construction in norther Italy/most of Europe now too and they are experiencing the issues of Chinese Sheetrock as well. The issues you list are not specific to America my friend

America is so rich we can just tear down our old buildings and build new, more advanced buildings when it's time.

Rather than living in the same rock shack for 300 years.

i'll just leave this here


youtube.com/watch?v=TYYMPlKotaw

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Yeah you can. You see that a lot in Europe.
But if the stone isn't totally ruined why would you?
My parents have a sandstone house and it ages beautifully.

They have those in your country too you spaz.