Why did other western nations surrender their firearms to the government...

Why did other western nations surrender their firearms to the government? And why are non-American self defense laws completely retarded? Seems like it should be the most common sense, fundamental right in any country. What is the reasoning of yurocuck countries when they arrest a man for killing a home invader?

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nationalcouncilofwomenofcanada.blogspot.com/2011/04/just-facts-on-gun-registry.html
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guncontrol.ca/English/Home/Releases/handout_march8_2011.pdf
guncontrol.ca/English/Reports/CAVEATeng.pdf
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because other western nations are retards, just look at Venezuela

American self-defense laws are pretty shitty in most states too. It just depends on how good your jew is during trial.

Found out that a maglight does not count as weapon. Meaning if I used a baseball bat on an intruder I could get in trouble for hurting the poor invader. But if I smack with a maglight it's okay because its my only light source to use for navigating my house. Fucked up. I Almost wanna go greencard to the states.

This is so insane, what is the reasoning behind these laws?

What if you tape a bunch of mag lights together into a big club?

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One old man got arrested because he ran out to hallway and started shooting at the back of the perps.
Can't remember what he got from it but I'm kinda 50-50 if it was ok or not.

Because Europeans did not live in a frontier nation and do not understand our culture

I was taught in army of a loophole if you have a light attached to your weapon and aim it at somebody it's not counted as pointing with a weapon but a flashlight.

>why are non-American self defense laws completely retarded?

Minnesota self defense laws are completely retarded as well.

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Damn, that shit sucks bros. In america we love to kill people; its fucking great, lots of people need killing honestly. Come on over and help.

>Pic very related.
Imagine trying to explain that one in a court of law; ITS ALL I HAD. I WAS IN FEAR OF MY LIFE.

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Because not all countries have nigs and spics running around in the millions.

Yeah some nations have to deal with abos and venomous kangaroos.

It's been like this for centuries. Nobility never wanted peasants to take up arms.
Today my country has private arms laws slightly to the liberal side, at least compared to most of Europe. Self defense laws here are actually based.

>surrender
Most never had a right to arms to begin with, and those that did somewhat (like Australia) viewed as a privilege, not a right anyway. Allowing anyone to buy assault rifles, when retards & niggers exist wtf are you thinking?

>sexual assault weapon

State monopoly on the use of violence. Normal everywhere except burgerland. And while I hate it, I do agree - it's not a right.

The truth is when this country was still 99% English it was extremely rare you needed a gun.
My county of about 200k people that’s still 98.2% white only has about 1 murder a year if that. Last year was some Polish guy stabbing another Polish guy and before that a farmer shot his wife and then shot himself after their only son died of cancer.

here its a weird system of escalation

user, let me tell you about the Jews...

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Well we're doing a fucken good job of trying to change that!

What the fuck is wrong with you?

>Go vote greens you fucking sudo cunt.

the us was the only one to fight a war of independence against its motherland colonisers. thats the "historical" reason.
the real reason was probably cos they just wanted to shoot browns and niggers

>it's not a flamethrower, it's my lightsource

If I had to guess I'd say that woman was a Pole, look at that noggin.

Maglites come in up to 7xD cell versions for exactly that purpose.

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GUN LAW TIME

Canadian gun laws are pretty much governed by women's rights groups. Allow me to show you some of our retarded stuff:

"The Conservatives want to throw out gun control laws that emerged after the Montreal massacre of 14 women – despite evidence that the presence of a gun in the home is strongly associated with the risk of homicide by a family member or intimate acquaintance."
>NDP flat out says this

feministtruths.blogspot.com/2010/09/truth-about-women-and-gun-control.html

gendercide.org/case_montreal.html

ywcacanada.ca/data/publications/00000001.pdf

nationalcouncilofwomenofcanada.blogspot.com/2011/04/just-facts-on-gun-registry.html

thestar.com/news/insight/article/863178--why-gun-control-is-really-a-gender-issue

guncontrol.ca/English/Home/Releases/handout_march8_2011.pdf

tons of sites like that are visible on google. They usually have misinterpreted stats, stats with no source, appeal to emotion, or just random stats thrown in with a value given.

Our biggest law jump came from Ecole Polytechnique Massacre. And that massacre has since plagued every attempted advance towards sensible firearms laws. It introduced this:

C-17: the possession of handguns and "military style" semiautomatic firearms were subject to severe restrictions (legally registered "military style" firearms were ordered confiscated without compensation).

1995 the liberals needed a boost, so they toughened gun laws although there was a decline in gun violence/related crimes. (Bill C-68 prohibits .32, .25 and certain barrel lengths)

Then you stumble onto gems like this:

Myth # 1 – “Duck guns” are not dangerous
Facts: My daughter was killed with a “duck gun”, so were too many other victims

guncontrol.ca/English/Reports/CAVEATeng.pdf

MORE GUN FUN STUFF

Quite frankly, a large degree of our gun laws are retarded as well. For starters, we don't have an 80% law or anything. And our laws are so vague that some 2 part epoxy can legally count as a firearm. Secondly you get processes like this:

Note this is a hypothetical
>buy Norinco Type 97A
>its legal
>register it to avoid charges
>its now banned
>get letter telling you to bring it in
>if you fail to, you are charged
>if you do bring it in, they destroy it
>you get no compensation

thank god thats only a 600$ gun, imagine what will happen to the Tar 21 (3k) or the RFB (2.3k).

BRIEF HISTORY OF CANADIAN GUN CONTROL

December 6, 1989 - A misogynist shoots 28 people at l'Ecole Polytechnique, killing 14 young
female engineering students with a Ruger Mini -14 and large capacity magazine.

December 1989 - January 1990. Responses varied from focusing generally on violence
against women, impediments to women in engineering, and also gun control. The students of
l'Ecole Polytechnique begin to circulate a petition calling for a ban on military weapons. At the
same time, in Toronto, a small group begins to work on developing a comprehensive approach
to gun control, and becomes the nucleus of Canadians for Gun Control. They recommend a position which includes licensing firearms owners, registering guns, banning military assault
weapons etc.)

>introduce C-80
>it dies

May 1991 - Justice Minister Kim Campbell unveils Bill C-17, a revised version of Bill C-80. The
National Action Committee on the Status of Women storms the hearings, arguing that women
have the right to be heard, and the bill is subsequently sent to the Standing Committee on Justice and the Solicitor General.

November 7, 1991 - The House of Commons passes Bill C-17.


November - December 1991 - The Senate Committee on Legal and Constitutional Affairs
reviews the legislation. Priscilla DeVilliers, whose daughter Nina was killed months earlier, and
John Bickerstaff, whose son Lee was accidentally killed by a friend playing with his father's service revolver, testify.

December 5, 1991 - Bill C-17 passes Senate.

Truth time. How far up your ass has it been.

sorry, I had a terrible boating accident. all my guns were lost

PART 2 OF GUN CONTROL HISTORY

April - September 1994 - The Coalition
for Gun Control launches a gun-control-now postcard campaign, calling on the government to
introduce stricter laws. A large number of policing and community organizations participate, including the Metro Toronto, Peel, and Montreal Police Departments, Cities of Toronto and Montreal and Ontario Federation of Women Teachers Associations.
>I don't see why women teachers need to be a part.


April 5, 1996 - In Vernon, BC Rajwar Gakhal and 8 members of her family are murdered by
her estranged husband, a gun-club member, who then commits suicide. The Coalition raises a
number of questions about the way in which the RCMP processed the murderer's gun application. An inquest and inquiry are called which makes wide ranging recommendations relevant to
the implementation of the firearms legislation.


Every single time a step is made to relax gun control, the Gakhal/Ecole Polytechnique victim's families are brought in to testify etc. We focus on using emotions to govern our laws. And quite often very strong women's rights presence is visible.

yeah, c'mon user, how many D's can you take?

MORE GUN STUFF AND BONUS RAPE LAWS

Allow me to explain the epoxy scenario as told to me by a licensed gunsmith in Canada:

>get epoxy
>epoxy can be molded to form a model/mold for part of gun
>since it can make part, it can therefore make gun
>since it can make gun, it can therefore be considered gun or capable of acting as a gun

To put it simply: if it can fire a projectile, it can count as a firearm within reason. Reason being, how the courts feel/what it was etc.

The person who affected our laws the most was Kim Campbell. And quite frankly she introduced another item that has caused some issues. Its called the Rape Shield Law. To explain that:

Rape Shield Law = severe limitations on defendant's ability to cross-examine rape complainants bout past sexual behaviour

This people who regularly call rape/sexual assault have less of a chance of former complaints being brought into light. The pattern is therefore less visible. Essentially, it introduces as system that is capable of abuse. It introduces interesting situations like R. v. Darrach. Summing that up:

>guy goes to ex gf's house
>fucks her
>she calls sexual assault
>he attempts to use evidence from their past relationship as examples of why he believed he had consent
>Rape Shield Law throws his evidence out
>he gets 9 months in Jail
>tries to argue unfair trial
>they tell him to testify without that evidence
>effectively has nothing so serves 9 months

light sentence in this case, but other incidents erupt from time to time with equally retarded scenarios.

mine is a 4D, old non-led. I keep it because of all the nicks and scratches it has from uh... lighting stuff

>Why did other western nations surrender their firearms to the government?

False flags by the state to advance the disarmament agenda. They'll continue shooting up schools in the USA for the same reason.

Only Australia and Britain.
European nations (Germany, France) still have guns.

>guns make a place 'dangerous'
>dangerous places are scary so you buy a gun to be 'safe'.
Oi Vey brother! isnt it great to exercise your 'freedom'?

>Should be a fundamenting right to arm everybody
>But lol who gives a fuck about rights for workers

Imagine being retarded.
I would rather have paid vacations days than the right to bear arms oh wait i actually can if i subscribe to a gun club that has mandatory mental health tests eyxcluding braindead people.

gonna carry your sidearm today?
oh right. enjoy your muhammeds

yeah I see yuropoor tourists at the rental ranges. they always have a RO to hold their hand so they don't shoot themselves in the foot or hit the ceiling

We dont have American toursists because most Americans are so poor they cannot afford flying outside their shit country lmao

>Danger doesn't exist if I don't contribute to it

Friend, your leaf mentality is why we're good neighbors.

spent 2 years in germany. nice country. but sad you're so cucked now

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>Cucked
How is a jewish puppet president with a senat full of women treating you bud?

But you don't own a country?

According to the OECD
>Germany's population is 80,645,610

Again, according to the OECD, of that 80.6 million
>Males between the age of 20 to 35 years old make up some 7,584,541

Of that 7.58 million males, 20% will be either foreign nationals (8%) or non-european immigrants (12% - largely Turks)

Which means, the true amount of ethnic german males between the age of 20 to 35 is 6,069,233 men.


Now, if we want to look at the dreary statistics, we can look at how Germany handled the Migrant Crisis from 2014 to 2016. The following statistics are from the German government and the UNHCR, explicitly concerning asylum seekers who were registered.

In 2014, they took in 173,100 asylum seekers
In 2015, they took in 1,091,894 asylum seekers
In 2016, they took in 280,000 asylum seekers

Of all these asylum seekers, if you go by the absolute best case scenario laid out by the UNHCR, 58% were male between the age of 20 to 35 (this does not include those who registered under a false age). Meaning:
>Germany took in roughly 896,097 men between the age of 20 to 35.

This is compounded with the current non-european immigrant background and foreign national number of 1,517,308 to give you a grand total of 2,413,405 men of non-european heritage who will compete with ethnic German men for breeding grounds.

Or in other words, 30% of the men that will be breeding with German women will be non-European. And if you know anything about muslims, they breed like fucking rabbits.

Demographically, Germans are doomed. It doesn't matter if Merkel throws out 100,000 this year. The fact is, with the middle eastern/african fertility rate and the gender imbalance in births, they have crossed the ethnic rubicon.

Germany cannot go back.
German muslim population will be nearly a fourth of their population in 2020.
Germans will be an ethnic minority in their own country in your life time.

>Invade all your neighbors who are already disarmed
>Lose the war cause you picked the right fight too soon
>Jump to 2 years ago
>Let in 1.5 million fighting age sand niggers
>I don't need to be armed!

I thought you were a logical people but I see I was wrong.

Mexico, Guatemala, and the United States are the only countries in the world where the right to bear arms is constitutionally guaranteed.

peachy. sorry about your muhammed problem, maybe we should step in and cleanse them, seeing as how you're our vassal state

>Uhh ur president

Nice try, Franz. You can't cast stones with Merkel actively trying to change all your values (and succeeding).

Because they’ve already been conquered by the globalists. Once America falls to globalism, the beast system will be complete, Israel will rebuild the Temple, and the antichrist will run the world government.

based leaf
RIP germany

Who is the antichrist?

>Has 13% nigger population
>Nearly 30% beaner population
>Literally gangs roaming the street in every single bigger town and suburb
>I need everybody of this vermins to be armed

Logical thinking was never the American way it seems

Ouch.

Because the people of other western nations don't have the right to keep and bear arms and there's no legal writing preventing their governments from taking guns away.

got any other fairy tales?
here have another load of "refugees"

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At that point your better to declare
"there was no intruder"
"its just cleaning chemical"

More "tolerant laws"
msn.com/en-nz/news/world/a-family-couldnt-pay-the-bills-so-the-city-took-their-dog-and-sold-it-on-ebay/ar-BBUdTOJ?li=BBSVbAt&ocid=iehp

Gun control in the UK was a direct response to civil unrest. We were in a depression post-WW1 and socialist influences from the East were creeping in. The government of the time was unpopular and feared armed uprisings from the well armed working and lower middle classes, so enacted the 1920 Firearms Act.

The reason for the existence of the Second Amendment is plain to see in my country’s own history. Our gun ownership was restricted to stop us from overthrowing the governmrnt.

Put them in a ring and let the abbos take out the roos.

To be clear, the government feared bolshevik inspired revolution, socialism wasn’t the drive for gun control but the antagonist.

Start?
It's been well underway, just been more difficult, and I mean, much much more difficult, to get Americans to disarm over a "gun tragedy". The government will do it incrementally, but will probably be lined up against the wall and shot before large scale confiscation.

Their forefathers never forged constitutions for them which protect their liberties so there was nothing to keep their boomer overlords in check. Be advised though that due to USA's demographic change and its institutional-feminism it will soon be equally as cucked as the other western countries in this regard.

That very thing happened when the RCMP lolbanned the Swiss Arms classic green, except that gun is 4 grand

My neighbor Bill.

true. then WW2, and we actually had to send our civilian guns over to you guys. btw not sending them back was a dick move haha, but I'll forgive you

Yeah got the biggest Fairy tale
Its called American Dream lol and now fuck off Burger

hundreds of millions of guns say otherwise, but you can have your dream memeflaggot

Your country is the size of one of our states. We have vast swaths of white only country. You have an image you're constantly apologizing for and your own government uses that against you to dilute the white population. There is nowhere for you to go. There is nothing you can do. As part of the EU, you are always at a disadvantage - at the bargaining table your country is always fucked. If Germany was in a poker game, your govt would wear their cards on their forehead as an unspoken rule of even being there in the first place. As the first belligerent of WWII, your entire foundation is compromised and because of that you can be sure that every move that is made is first passed through the filter of: "Is this in the agenda of apologizing for 1936-1945?"

Your nation is hopeless. Citing some niggers from A FEW of our FIFTY states, some the size of your entire country makes you feel better by comparison then I have some news for you Franz - your bed is burning and you're busy barking in the wind.

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They probably got destroyed or locked in a vault somehwere, soz. UK government wasn’t going to make the same mistake as WW1 and let civilians actually keep the weapons they’d fought for their freedom with.

>He thinks people are not dangerous without guns

Okay retard

That's really enough of an answer. In medieval Europe everyone used to run around with swords. In victorian England men having a personal revolver was common.

more german master race arriving

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yeah they were destroyed after the war. damn shame

There’s actually a right to bear arms in the British constitution (the bit that’s actually written down anyway), but it’s been buried with sneaky legislation to make it pointless.

If we were allowed to freely buy guns, it would be like syria for few months

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I don't understand how everyone agreed to that. I just don't get it. If you have an armed population, what kind of virus did they get infected with that would cuck them so hard? I know S . O . Y wasn't in circulation in the UK the way it is today so wtf was it? Why were your great grandfathers such absolute pussies?

Normie men need to be educated on the western wamyn question. Don't just share info on sites like this, share it on places where normie men will see it.

Every single one of those faces tells a story of the rape of a white German girl that hasn't happened yet.

Imagine having to give up your loyal Lee Enfield, it kept you safe for 6 years and killed a bunch of Germans. When your friends were shot or blown up it stayed by your side, the best friend a soldier could have, and your government takes it from you and melts it down.

Are you going to bring those guns to your municipal or state offices, in an organized manner? Since if you are not willing to deal with violence on the level in which administrative and financial violence occurs, put them down. Since you obviously do not have the capacity to understand how violence works, except for thugishness.

Americans are just naturally stupid and docile good goyim, so the government never felt the need to take guns. If Americans were a threat, their guns would have been gone decades ago.

that's exactly what they did. even things like remington deer rifles we sent over. sad.

>You have an image you're constantly apologizing for and your own government uses that against you to dilute the white population
Thanks America and the jews for that but lets be real here : Where is the difference nowadays

>There is nowhere for you to go. There is nothing you can do. As part of the EU, you are always at a disadvantage - at the bargaining table your country is always fucked.
Actually i can go into 27 different european states whenever i want with no disadvantage. Also Germany profited like nobody else in the EU from the EU but looking at your post you are one of the fools that dont do research of their own but rather take everything here is posted for real

>Your nation is hopeless.
Said the guy from the country that is limiting free speech because niggers or jews are offended. A country that sold the American dream for safety because they lost the war on terrorism. Your country is full of fear American, everything you Americans do today is because you have fear in your hearts that was planted by goatfuckers 18 years ago and grown over time by people who are bribed by rich jews ( Republicans).
So please tell me more about my country Americlap maybe one day you will realize how shit yours is

LOOK AT ALL THE POOR WOMEN AND CHILDREN, HOW CAN WE REFUSE THEM!

>Its called American Dream
You can achieve it if you work hard. I have 0 debt and make >130k/yr with a tax burden that is less than 1/2 of yours. I have more than enough cash in my pocket to travel anywhere in the world I want and enjoy any hobbies I want whether they be reading, hiking or shooting. Just because europe is suffering doesnt mean the rest of the world is. Yeah there are shit parts in america but this is the only country in the world where you can do/own/say anything you want.

totally not military age arabs invading.....

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130k? hello brother. feels good man
join the gun a month club, and remember to buy a safe twice the size you think you'll need

my grandpa jumped on the back of someones car and smashed out the rear window with one of these, and in another separate instance, smashed the camera out of a neighbors hand

>buy a safe twice the size you think you'll need
I just signed for delivery today for a vault door for my 900 sq ft gun vault

> the country that is limiting free speech
What the fuck are you talking about? The supreme court literally ruled that so called hate speech is constitutionally protected, kike. Why don't you go downtown and hand out flyers with giant swastikas and big bold letters that say the holocaust was a lie and see how long it takes to get thrown in jail. Do it here and the worst that will happen is you'll be assaulted by some faggot wearing a mask, but the government will not arrest you. You have absolutely no fucking room to talk to Americans about free speech.

they are GREAT for smashing windows. scares the shit out of the nigger who won't open the car door

You're clueless. Germany is in a much better position than the USA is. America will not even exist in 50 years, but Germany will.

>using eotech ever

ooh shit now I'm jealous. I have the biggest safe cannon makes, and another one that's second biggest. I've always wanted a vault door for the basement

damn right. aimpoint or gtfo

That's where you're wrong bucko. We have already weaponized space and btfo the entire world. We can destroy any country in minutes before they can even order a retaliation. This is still kept secret but not for much longer. The 1000 year American Reich is only starting.

In our case, the government rounded up many weapons after our bogus war of independence. Almost like they did not want a repeat of what just happened.
They basically did this by buying them and giving favours (extra land, lower taxes, etc.) to people who turned them in.
Guns have never been banned outright, however, since guns and cannons had been manufactured on our soil since the 1500s and possibly sooner, which was an industry they had no desire to stifle too much(FN is all that's left now, though). But it did kill the idea of a gun in every home.

The zeitgeist didn't really change to our modern day disapproval of guns until the 1970s. I wasn't there to live it, but apparently that's when there started to be a societal movement against gun ownership, which reached apotheosis in the early 80s when the Nijvel gang (known as the Brabant killers abroad) commited a series of homicides, burglaries and robberies. These were always needlessly bloody and violent, basically terror attacks with machine guns for which the motives were never discovered. It has often been suggested, by lawyers, reporters, officers and retired judges that this gang had political connections and protection, and that one member was, in fact, a cop.
Since then, gun owners have taken all the slander your gun nuts are getting and gun sales had been dropping until around two years ago, when people started to think hunting was a cool hobby, coinciding with all the troubles of the migrants showing up.