Why do the liberals hate the electoral college so much?

how?

>implying a bunch of parasitic rednecks should be relevant

you should be carpet bombed

>Carpet boming the infrastructure that keeps cities from becoming I Am Legend
Lel

The right to vote should be removed from anyone who takes government money. You don't get to tell working people that they have to surrender their rights if you depend on them to feed your children.

There are quite a few reasons but I've always found it simply boils down to an absolute, shear, unadulterated, vicious, hatred of rural America. They believe they're better than them in simply every way (They will happily inform you of this) and thus believe that the voices of middle and rural America should absolutely be silenced.

Remember, liberals are hypocritical and will speak all day of human rights and freedoms yet readily deny the ones granted by their own constitution. They'll speak of giving voices to the voiceless but if a voice dares speak against their "ideals" it's rapidly silenced. They believe things should be "fair" but "fair" only constitutes them winning. They champion the working class but shun the white working class of their own country.

I say this as a man whose never lived outside of a semi-forested suburb in the South East and attends a university in a relatively largeish city.

Exhibit A

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>Why do the liberals hate the electoral college so much?
They hate our democracy. They hate that it's not tyrannical mob rule that would allow them to dismantle it completely after seizing control.

Or uses government built roads or any government offered services

It's undemocratic, burger. I thought you people loved democracy so much, you would go to war in the middle east for it??

We havent used our democratic system to declare a war since 1941

Clearly they do not care.

Everyone hates the electoral college. Until their candidate wins. Then it's "oh well the founding fathers said". The college is an antiquated and outdated institution that should have been disbanded centuries ago. The only reason it's being propped up is to keep southern/rural states from being irrelevant, now that the majority of population centers lie in liberal states

Everyone hates the electoral college. Until their candidate wins. Then it's "oh well the founding fathers said". The college is an antiquated and outdated institution that should have been disbanded centuries ago. The only reason it's being propped up is to keep southern/rural states from being irrelevant, now that the majority of population centers lie in liberal states

They'll only hate it until it helps them out in some way.

>I don't understand indirect vs direct incentives
Oh no, he's retarded

because it allows a minority to rule and impose its will over a majority.

>The college is an antiquated and outdated institution that should have been disbanded centuries ago
How so? It's literally a recent development in terms of the democratic process. You want to revert to a primal level that was well-known and detested at the time of our founding.

>May 2018

Switch to national popular vote would probably lead to more Republican wins

No one would ever campaign in Cali or NY or IL, and you could easily make up a few million votes for the first time. It would erode the democrat hold on blue states.

>statist is upset he'd lose voting rights
lick the boot clean, little bitch

No it wouldn't you stupid fucking nigger. What will happen is tens of millions of illegals and non citizens will vote for free shit.

Because they are giving the votes to whoever the country voted for not who their state voted for. They are invalidating their state's voters.

As opposed to the current system which is.......

>undemocratic

states have semi-autonomy and without guaranteed representation the bigger states would command the smaller ones making them loosing the ability to defend their own economic and social interests, if the european commission composition was population based there would be representatives from several countries leaving all else to be voiceless

and that's their choice

Because they want a time when only California and NY will pick the president and everyone else’s vote is meaningless

You started off correct but then veered off into retardation.

The electoral college is in place to give those so-called "irrelevant" states a voice, whether you like them or not.

Much like why the US is a Republic and not a Democracy.

They're trying to rig it in hopes trump won't win again.
He was right all along you know.

Wait till Trump wins the national popular vote by 50,000 votes and watch them go apeshit

Because they donmt understand checks and balances or how the house and senate work. All laws ever passed went through a similar system. It’s by design. Jews could take tyranical control if not for checks and balances so they seeth at the moth wanting them gone. They want a Jewish majority in every group and majority based wins. They are such an evil group.

>promoting foreign illegal roachvoters over domestic legal citizens
I'm not even American and you still disgust me.

Isn't this unconstitutional? It's essentially mass voter disenfranchisement - telling the state's voters that *regardless* of who they vote for, their electors are going to vote for whoever people in New York and California voted for.

This would be the best timeline

This is what I will now pray for

Trump won. The game was to win the electoral college. He won. They both campaigned to win the electoral college because that was how the system was setup. Abolish it and future candidates will campaign differently, spending more time in more states etc...maybe it's also easier to game a straight popular vote. Dems like that.

I wonder.

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Yes, I think its unconstitutional and will most certainly be challenged in court

You can see him starting to take this angle. Look for it and you will see it.

Yes

Hahahahahaha

The mega city dictatorship reigns supreme

Fuck your choices, it doesn't matter. Our socialism is only valid when it benefits our party.. bitch ass niaggas

Now go and pick my corn.. and don't expect any favors.. slaves

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this is exactly why Trump doesn't have to leave the White House under any circumstance (and won't)

How are they silenced?
There's equal representation, making it nothing more than adupe of the popular vote
Are you saying that you are violating the constitution and granting yourself unequal representation?

you mean it prevents the tyranny of the majority from imposing its will on the minority? like, a constitutional republic, or something?

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>states have semi-autonomy and without guaranteed representation the bigger states would command the smaller ones making them loosing the ability to defend their own economic and social interests
Oh you mean like the EU states? :DDD Follow our good example, USA!

They don't when their guy wins it.

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The minority matters why?
Do you support pedophiles for being the minority?
Trannies?

Gibs are synonymous with large urban centers. Large urban centers now outnumber rural areas due to the extra productivity of cities shuffling their gibs back to lazy people.
It's the same reason why jurry meandering is primarily an abuse by liberals. Urban cities are synonymous with dense population and gibs/liberal policies. The more densely a population, the more susceptible it is to jurry mandering. Fukin Wyoming only has 1 district coz its entire state has like 250k people. No significant urban areas to channel gibs

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Really?

FEAR THE TYRANNY OF THE MAJORITY!

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Gun free zones come to mind
Or door locks

Because they're the majority

They hate it when it works against them
but when it turns in their favor it will be the saviour of the republic.

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The same way a sheep has no representation in a popular vote between two wolves and one sheep.

He who has a highly condensed mass of people, that will naturally group-think due to their common environment/lives, owns everyone else.

>blue states pass laws bypassing authority of electoral college
>trump wins 2020 popular vote

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Then leave the country if oyu dont like it
>waah we are a minority, obey us

I'm rural and somewhat left wing. It's really not that uncommon. Rich inner city areas are overwhelmingly conservative and yuppies give about as much of a shit about the sticks as hipsters unfortunately.

um there's over 6 million legal immigrants that will have come to the u.s in the 4 years Trump has been president, so.

So if CT goes for say, Jill Stein, they're just going to give their electoral votes to someone they were dictated to by California and New York. Yeah I can't see them getting angry about this at all. Also aren't the electors allowed to vote for whoever they want?

>How are they silenced?
The electoral votes go to the national popular-vote, not statewide popular-vote. Imagine an entire state voting primarily one-sided and it's flipped because of the national vote? The states are truly run by the tyranny of the majority at that point.

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>Literally giving away voting rights to NYC and California no matter what the local people choose

California literally has more population than 19 states combined. If every single person in Connecticut and Colorado(who also passed this stupid bill) voted one way towards a candidate that worked in their favor and California voted for one that didn't, they would literally have their votes thrown out.

Someone can literally run on a platform right now "I am going to take all federal funding from Rhode Island, Vermont, Washington, Massachusetts, maryland, connecticut, Hawaii, New Jersey and Colorado and funnel it into projects in NY, California, and Illinois." And there isn't shit that the smaller states can do because they just voted away their fucking voice to a fuckton of people who live in states thousands of miles away that don't benefit them.

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Surprised Alaska is as Blue as it is

Why would we leave our own country when shit gets complicated? We're not African migrants or Central Americans.

Why even bother voting then if the rest of the county decides for you?

pedophiles physically injure with their actions, therefore that is criminal. gender dysphoria is a mental illness and requires treatment. you have made no arguments. freedom without harming others was the goal of the founders and the system they set in place is near perfect. liberals only want to fuck with it because it impedes their ability to inflict their will upon us.

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Apples and oranges.
As much as you want to mimic us, your parties are different, with different priorities.

Priority number 1 for you would be, trying to shoe-horn in americanism in your society. That's why you morons voted to be gay, not knowing that was actually implemented on us against our will.

Inbred natives voting for more free gibs.

It's 2019 faggot. Grab a wig

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So you admit that it's not fair representation at all? Everyone does have 1/3 of the vote after all.

It continually amazes me how there are so many retarded liberal city dwellers that don't understand where their food and materials that were used to build their shelter came from and despise the people that create it.

You can not give away your rights.

Quality post.

Because their ebtire,motivation in life is dictating the actions of others.
Consequently they want national elections to be decided by a few liberal hive cities like NY and LA

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Prepare for liberal buttrage when trump or another republican wins the popular vote.

And?
The state would lose anyways as the EC is based on the popular vote as it
Your argument only works by claiming that the some voters are more voteworthy than others
The civil war happened
And all actions by a government are injurious to its people, only in ways enough with power dont care about
Tell me, is not injurious to wage war for Israel nor give exemption for pollution?
Oh its quite unfair
thegreenpapers.com/Census10/FedRep.phtml?sort=Elec#table

Everyone hates the electoral college. Until their candidate wins. Then it's "oh well the founding fathers said". The college is an antiquated and outdated institution that should have been disbanded centuries ago. The only reason it's being propped up is to keep southern/rural states from being irrelevant, now that the majority of population centers lie in liberal states

Everyone hates the electoral college. Until their candidate wins. Then it's "oh well the founding fathers said". The college is an antiquated and outdated institution that should have been disbanded centuries ago. The only reason it's being propped up is to keep southern/rural states from being irrelevant, now that the majority of population centers lie in liberal states

Wait- the way this is worded it says CT will collectively vote after the results have been tallied. Who the fuck thinks of this shit? Post-vote voting.

Trump will win the popular vote and these states will all be screaming like crazy. They're all libshit states who always vote Democrat anyway.

Hilarious.

Watch them try to back out if a Republican wins the popular vote.

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That won't happen

Everyone hates the electoral college. Until their candidate wins. Then it's "oh well the founding fathers said". The college is an antiquated and outdated institution that should have been disbanded centuries ago. The only reason it's being propped up is to keep southern/rural states from being irrelevant, now that the majority of population centers lie in liberal states

Some day you are going to get your skull bashed in, and you will suffer much longer than you think.

>Your argument only works by claiming that the some voters are more voteworthy than others

You realize that this is exactly what happens in a popular vote right?

>The college is an antiquated and outdated institution that should have been disbanded centuries ago. The only reason it's being propped up is to keep southern/rural states from being irrelevant, now that the majority of population centers lie in liberal states
You do know that California has the same percentage of population that Virginia did back during the 1700's, right? Nothing has changed.

you clearly can

A popular vote system is even more antiquated and outdated than the EC. No large country uses the popular vote because every time it's been tried it resulted in the majority voting themselves more power and oppressing the minority.