Do you notice how a lot of millennials are self-defeating sometimes to the point of nihilism?
>fuck my life >i just wana eat pizza >escape by traveling >extreme escapism
Some interesting stuff going on there.
Essentially it is a fragmentation of consciousness where one part desires success and living up to inflated social media social statuses, whereas there is still this other part which desires deep loving connection and a family, and these two aspects are in conflict with one another.
These aspects of the subconscious then sabotage each other. The part which wants deep loving connection sees the part that wants success and says no way, there is nothing for me there. The part which wants success sees the part that just wants a family and says no way, that's not the optimum route to success. That is where the self-sabotage comes from and the millennial's internal struggle.
The resolve this scenario the two aspects have to be integrated and co-operate. Essentially the conscious mind has to intervene in the subconscious inner conflict to resolve it and then the individual and work towards a plan which incorporates both goals as a compromise.
So why is this prevalent? Was this prevalent in previous generations? Did they grow out of it? Are millenials growing out of it? What does it look like for zoomers? And what is the cure at both an individual and societal level?
We can't get land or a house in any reasonable amount of time dude. It is hard to establish any ties to an area when you are a perpetual renter or still living with your parents.
If you are priced out of housing you tend to find other pursuits to spend your money on because there is no point to saving forever when you are unlikely to be able to save enough to buy a house.
Nicholas Cruz
Peterson has it 100% right. Nihilism allows you to abdicate responsibility for your life and the state of society. Predicting failure saves you from the potential ego damage of trying or valuing something and failing. That's the long and short of it.
Aaron Ward
Yeah I do think that society is putting us in a bind. Both if still living at home or if renting and having to support yourself and try to get onto the property ladder.
How can you fulfill the desire for deep connection and a family without that material foundation first right? But then we are so conflicted going forwards under already such jewed conditioned.
Yeah it's not good really.
Wyatt Lewis
Honestly to be quite frank. It's the Jews. They ruined everything
Matthew Brown
beaner
Ryder Kelly
If you can't get a place of your own you are constantly under the threat that your landlord will continue to hike your rent in perpetuity. You are always a year away from being kicked to the curb when the landlord decides not to renew, you are always a year away from having to look for a new place and you are really limited in what you can actually do in a rented space. Renters are locked out of many income producing activities by the virtue of them being on property they do not own. If you want to fix the jew problem you need to get ride of most landlording or figure out a way to remove the controls that landlords place on properties or else you will have perpetual problems.
Brody Torres
Peterson is an intellectually disingenuous conman. The fact he's willing to place the responsibility for the state of a system as massive and complex as society on any individual should tell you that on it's own.
I think alot of this is overblown. The boomers got lucky and grew up in the world where everything was destroyed except the US and so they became incredibly wealthy. But millenials will inherit their parents wealth when they pass on. Theres nothing wrong about living with your parents and saving up money to buy a house. Honestly the only reason it's a struggle for many millenials is because they want to fuck a bunch of strangers and project and aura of wealth and success to attract sexual partners. Multi generational living is the human norm throughout all of history.
Alexander Nelson
Ah yes, strive to be an average loser dad.
Asher Reed
Optimism is cowardice
Nicholas Cooper
It is a gigantic problem because there won't be a lot left to inherit once the medical system gets their claws into the parent's and grandparents savings. Pallative care is really fucking expensive and not many older people plan for it well, it will cause so many problems when they realize they don't actually have a nest egg to inherit. The coup de grace will be when medicare and medicaid stop covering hospice or in-home end of life care and believe me it is coming considering how fast the care industry is growing.
>Multi generational living is the human norm throughout all of history.
That's true. Modern society dictates a certain proscribed path that rips you out of the parent's home at 18 and sticks you to a series of other random people for 4-6 years. That will take generations to correct and I see the solutions coming down the pipeline will only reinforce that trend.
Henry Rogers
If being a loser dad means immunity from the ills of society isn't it the winning move?
Dylan Walker
You aren't immune from societies ills. The status quo may currently be that you can get away with that strategy in the past, but in the future the government may very well wise up to the fact that fathers are getting away with less work and move to rectify that in family court. The way that the law is shifting would suggest that they may compel fathers to work more hours to support a higher standard of living for children or tightly control a fathers discretionary spending. They are far more crafty then we have been giving them credit for.
Jose Gomez
You're predicating a successful marriage on material wealth. Which will almost certainly be punished. Women being gleefully liberated from their husbands de facto means they serve the state, acting as proxies for wealth redistribution. Your women is deprived of the incentive to divorce rape you when it's immediately perceptible to her that she'll be left off worse materially after she frivorces.
Nathan Richardson
>they may compel fathers to work more hours to support a higher standard of living Compulsory work for someone else's benefit is called slavery and it's illegal.
Owen Rodriguez
It's because they are baby coddled children. That's literally it, that's all, there is no conspiracy beyond that. We simply live in a society in which it is impossible to fail, impossible to just fail and die like in old times. Women can ride an endless cock carousel and pop out children and they won't be kicked to the curb and die of typhus after all their children either die of the pox or are confiscated by child labor orphanages. Men can sit at home being worthless NEETs while they live off the excess of their Boomer parents, barely have a desire for women because they have an infinite supply of free high quality anything sexual that they could possibly desire, and are artificially stimulated by baby games via their exorbitantly expensive electric boxes.
The hippie generation was the herald of this age of degeneracy. A literal entire cultural movement of former adults and lifelong children who self-righteously eschewed their moral and social responsibilities as a subconscious protest against the elimination of competition. They thought God would listen and when nobody answered their call they set to work engineering the devil's ancient plan. But God is listening, and he is watching, and while we may be powerless to stop the dark lord, the judgment day will come, the day of the divine revelation of God's kingdom on earth. Judgment is God's and God's alone.
Carson Kelly
Except they routinely require it during child support hearings. The current shift and realignment that is happening politically and socially will firmly put one group in the faction of compulsory work if it benefits some sort of vague social good. Work with that assumption in mind and you will start connecting the dots.
I'm not predicting that at all. I'm predicting that the strategy is eventually going to be defeated because the amount of information that will be at the fingertips of family courts will be so voluminous they will be able to compel a father to do whatever they like. They will be able to see that you refuse overtime, you don't go up for promotions and you are refusing to use education benefits. You will be compelled to do things in order to benefit the child. They have already started trying some of these tactics out on black fathers, it won't be a stretch to take this out to the whole system.
Aaron Bell
>Except they routinely require it during child support hearings. No they don't. They simply come up with a number and tell a man he has to meet it. No judge is going to hand down an order that a man work X number of hours because that's literally slavery and not just the de facto slavery of financial obligation.
Levi Taylor
Judges do have that power implicit in their position. The only reason they currently use the formula is because it is the readily available tool. A judge could compel a father to get a job under contempt of court or at least make reasonable attempts to get a job. It would not be much a hard step to require a certain level of effort before holding the father in contempt.
Leo Jenkins
>Judges do have that power implicit in their position. No they don't, and if one got uppity enough to think they did a higher court not populated by a retard would smack it down on appeal so fast for being so blatantly unconstitutional that their forced resignation would hit them in the ass on the way out the door hard enough to leave a mark. The illegality of forced labor is non-figuratively in a constitutional amendment.
David Phillips
That's a nice thought but haven't we seen enough examples of the law being re-interpreted to mean anything that will advance globohomo to actually think "muh constitution" means anything?
Ryan Russell
Not wanting to opt out for some boi pucci with wealth and assets to your name; we live in a time where you can get the cutest sexiest fem boi and you want a girl who is no lesser than teenager and no greater than a young adult.
Joseph Robinson
True, but I would add that millennials have grown in sterile enviroment, and nothing really grows in sterile enviroment.
Ayden Richardson
>dude they're gonna let family court carve out a hard exception to slavery being illegal, the writing is on the wall man Even in this ridiculous shithole the idea of that happen is still patently absurd. Let's not forget the majority of these fresh not-slaves would be niggers and that's a bad look for everyone involved.
Jonathan Williams
This is the most boomer post I have ever seen. It's almost art. So what's on the boomers for leaving such a life and world for the x's and millenials, eh?
Jacob Morgan
If his message is for a mass of individuals to take responsiblity, wouldn't a mass of responsible adults make holding up society easier?
>take responsiblity Take responsibility for what? Their personal contribution to society? Even the most influential people to have ever lived are minuscule drops in an ocean on the societal scale. The average person is infinitesimally less significant than the most influential and to say they need to take responsibility for anything when their individual contributions amount to almost nothing is essentially saying they need to take the blame for something they didn't do. Peterson knows he's shifting blame because that's his job. He's a gatekeeper designed to keep people punching down and not directing their efforts into forcing the class of person he belongs to into taking responsibility for their collective actions which are infinitely more detrimental to society than anything the masses have ever decided to do of their own accord.
Julian Gonzalez
Millennials grew up with over stimulation from Jewish entertainment coupled with having gen x parents who are more or less an extension of boomers who never really invested time into raising them into being functioning adults. Add that to inheriting a shit economy in a globohomo muttopia with no sense of community and nothing to fight for, you could see how it adds up.
You are overanalyzing and projecting: when your entire life is on "Hard Mode+" and practically nothing works, you just give up. You are a spoiled sheltered faggot raised on prosperous times so it is something your mind can't concieve.
Julian Bell
>yes goy, just don't own anything and be a literal NPC This is only moderately better than fullblown NPC consumerism. It's just another brand of NPC attitude..
Elijah Martinez
Pee is stored in the balls.
Andrew Edwards
How far would you be willing to go to change this? I'm not even talking about violent revolution. I mean, if there were a completely legal, non-violent means to change these circumstances, how much comfort would you be willing to sacrifice?
It's sad. Just become a better person and self improve and have a happy family, don't need a lot of money, focus more on happiness.
Dominic Nelson
Peterson is a psycho shill. "Wash your penis bucko! Clean your room! Take your pills, like I do!"
Nihilism is a result of western society's degeneracy. There is no moral code, no common set of values, no plan or structure. Realizing that you (as a lone human being) can do very little to nothing about that fact isn't because you need to abdicate responsibility.
While he is right about predicting failure saves from ego damage, that ignores the rational observation that despite being a gooy goy and working our whole lives, many people will not be able to afford a house, a family, retirement, vacations, etc.
Jayden Wright
Yup - especially considering his audience are people just coming of age to participate in the system. That, and the fact that he's on meds and can't tell when he's lying. He told Rogan (another shill) that drank some apple cider and didn't sleep for a month. Literally said that he didn't sleep for 25 straight days because of apple cider.
Turn 18 9/11 Turn 21 Iraq Turn 25 Oh you wanted to save some money and buy a house that every one just got with no credit check loans Crash Obama Turn 30 Job laid ya off, medical was cost prohibitive No job no house cant buy a cheap car cause cash for clunkers took all good cheap cars off the road, cant get a car loan cause credit markets want you to have a 700 no job anyway so you couldnt make the payments anyway, your medical is 800 a month even thought your not sick Get sick from stress, healthcare gone cause couldn't pay 35 trump got elected maybe my life wont suck now Oh no hes adding a trillion a year to the debt, diluting any inheritance you might have got from boomer parents Turn 40 Buy a helium tank and a gas mask
Jackson Martinez
I bought a house, it's a trap.
The only ones you can afford will be sold by boomers in shitty neighborhood for 100k. I bought mine right next to HUD for 73 thousand and still don't live there after a year, I've spent about 12k so far ripping it to studs to fix all the problems with it.
The crash began before obama fella, bush was president stilll
Aaron Rivera
Are you a fucking retard? This is how the economy works. This is how the market works. This is how voting works. This is how degeneracy and cultural shifts permeate. It's a bunch of individuals making choices, and eventually enough of them make similar enough choices that it has far reaching effects on society as a whole.
Why the fuck wouldn't personal responsibility, discipline, and ambition work the same way?
Brayden Hall
next gen, we bring back the cane, millennials were a mistake, zoomers too