Daddy fetish

What is the psychology behind of/the cause of softcore "daddy" kinks? My libido is low, I don't watch much porn, so I have no clue how'd I develop the thing.

>Inb4 you're "born" with the kink, it's "natural"
No. Stop.

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Daddy issues

I hate my mother though, how would that work? Can mother issues cause it too/how? I get daddy issues causing it though, but I honestly had worse issues with my mom.

I'm a Daddy Dom and most of my subs have had complicated family issues, though I haven't noticed a single trigger personally. Former subs have had both bad and good paternal relationships while still being very much Daddy's girls.

There are innumerable potential reasons. The feeling of being safe and secure seems to be a strong pull, as does a yearning for a father figure. In one case, a former sub respected her father and looked up to him, but while loving, he was also a busy individual who was emotionally distant. She wanted someone to look up to, and also have authority over her.

This is actually probably partially a response to modern parenting. A lot more people have moved away from parenting styles that involve authority, and try to be more democratic. The thing is, submissives desire a strong hand, and they'll seek it out if they can't find it. It can be a source of frustration for someone who wants to give away control to never have an outlet, especially when they should have some sense of that in their growth environment.

It's just popular these days. Similar to how BDSM became really popular a few years ago because of 50 shades. Sex is part of the mainstream now, it's totally understandable that it would see fads, too.

desu even if your dad was a good guy or even a good father he probably wasn't a good "father figure" in the developmental sense, if that makes any sense. I don't have the specific knowledge to define what that would be in detail, but I know it's less common in today's society.

Yeah, that's the thing, I am very sex negative, I stay far away from sex promoting media, etc. So I feel as though the influence maybe didn't come from there. The only porn I watched a lot of was just vintage dag porn, honestly. And the occationally hentai which I quit.

Odd. Have any of them only had big mother issues? For me, my mother was awfuly crazy and had severe anger issues, my brother was violent and father too, so I literally just feared my entire family 24/7 instead of just my father. My brother is a bigger mess than me even.

I do subcontiously sometimes think "man, I wish I had a relationship that good with my mother or family, hmm" when I see on TV families who get along.

>The feeling of being safe and secure seems to be a strong pull
Shit, I think I might subcontiously have this. I have a somewhat similar feeling, but can't put it to words, ever.

>as does a yearning for a father figure
Oddly i feel grossed out by that thought? The thoughts I get is having a better mother or family as a whole, not just a father. But maybe I do have that and my mind wants my bf to replace my father. Which would be... Creepy.

>She wanted someone to look up to, and also have authority over her.
I surely have this 100% but not in a sexual way, Jesus. Painfully accurate though. I heavily do that with my partner, and I sort of want to feel like I'm being raised by him as if he's a father sometimes, but one I actually get along with.

>This is actually probably partially a response to modern parenting
Odd, since both my parents were extremely controlling. My mother was mentally ill, orthorexic and some anorexic-edque illness too, and she forcefully lived her illness through me and my sister. To this day, even when I'm 23, she keeps trying to control me by fear mongering or having heated debates.

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>father figure
I know exactly what you mean, user. Don't worry. I'd want a 1950s dad. Even though my father was conservative, he wasn't exactly as great and clean of a role model as most 50s dads. My bf often talks about "the father figure" and what it is made up of since he didn't have a dad growing up, and often criticizes to me about disliking his father's boomer mentality. He loves his dad now thanks to me though. But I certainly see how modern dads are just.... Why?

>Have any of them only had big mother issues?
My former subs had pretty typical relationships with their mothers. A little cattiness here and there, but mostly okay.

>I do subcontiously sometimes think "man, I wish I had a relationship that good with my mother or family, hmm"
Most people who develop kinks tend to have experiences that aren't the typical happy family unit. Perhaps it is part of the cause. I was abandoned by my father at a young age, and never really had strong role models, so there is a bit of irony that I find myself so focused on guiding and nurturing women who desire a strong male role model.

>Shit, I think I might subcontiously have this.
There is nothing wrong with a desire for security and seeking that in others. It is part of the human experience.

>But maybe I do have that and my mind wants my bf to replace my father. Which would be... Creepy.
Well, one of my subs did not get along well with her father, as he was controlling and impossible-to-please. He was an intellectual, but sort of crazy, having had a lot of anti-government experience in the Slavic states before emigrating to the US. He also was a hoarder. She said that in a lot of ways I reminded her of him, between personality quirks, the ability to become controlled and stern, and being a "weirdo prepper" (brat). It was really troubling to her because she both put off by the similarities, but also turned on by them. The moral of the story is that we're all messed up in a lot of ways.

>I sort of want to feel like I'm being raised by him as if he's a father sometimes
Sometimes when one has hard experiences growing up they want to regress and make up for all the time they couldn't be "little." I've known women who found themselves in age-play or simply by acting childish. Personally, I tend to attract bratty women who tend to enjoy being a little disobedient because they didn't have the opportunities growing up.

kinks are intrinsically degenerate. Sex as a whole is not "good" in any way except the continual survival of the species, which isn't a problem anymore for humans.
All this "healthy sex life" is propaganda.

Change my mind.

>But I certainly see how modern dads are just.... Why?
I'm lucky enough to be "old" for Jow Forums, being early 30s. Despite having an absent father, I still was expected to be a "man," and grew up running around the forests and trees, and volunteering as a firefighter.

However, even in a period of a decade and a half everything has changed. You have more and more boys being reared entirely by single mothers, while also being taught that all of our primordial instincts are wrong. Recess and physical activity in school has been cut in favor of practicing more for standardized testing. Boys aren't built to be inactive and stationary for long periods of time, so now if they act like boys should they are put on Ritalin. When I had issues with someone, we'd have a scrap, and there might be a bloody nose or a bruised eye. Children get expelled for that now. Parents get arrested for letting their 12 year old alone at their home or playing at a park solo.

If you want a reason why men are no longer men, simply look at society.

>kinks are intrinsically degenerate.
Pretty much, yes.

>Sex as a whole is not "good" in any way except the continual survival of the species, which isn't a problem anymore for humans.
What is the point in responding to a subjective statement? You have no metric with which you can determine value.

>All this "healthy sex life" is propaganda.
Well, generally people with a fair number of partners (not to either extreme) tend to have both greater longevity and better social relationships.

>Change my mind.
Why would I care to?

>There is nothing wrong with a desire for security and seeking that in others. It is part of the human experience.
True, it's just that you should express it in a healthy matter. Lately my mind has been wanting to perhaps do it the wrong way. My bf honestly recently began seeing I was getting eerie with my constant "daddy" jokes. He doesn't like me calling him that even jokingly anymore.

Sorry, it's 2am, I wish I could reply with more but I'm tired as of now and can't think.

So does all of society have daddy issues?
It does explain why stuff like Logan, God of War, The Last of Us, and what not.

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>Well, generally people with a fair number of partners (not to either extreme) tend to have both greater longevity and better social relationships.
Bull-fucking-shit. Is there anything of value out there to back this up? In before studies made and pushed by the same propagandists who revel in the concept of a "healthy sex life", which also push things such as "masturbation is good for your health".

Maybe bait, maybe serious. I'll bite. You sound 100% like my friend who's mother divorced 3 times. He became a hardcore purist due to his mother cheating, being sexual, etc etc. Hence why there's a chance you might be legit.

Fetishes 99% of the time are a form of you degenerating due to social or such reasons, correct. I want to agree with you about sex but even my ultra traditionalist bf is like "sex is affection. Every relationship must have sex, no sex means the relationship gets harder. Don't be a whore but don't be immature sexually and hate sex either." and it genuinely aggravates me because I would cuddle and kiss over sex any day.

>Well, generally people with a fair number of partners (not to either extreme) tend to have both greater longevity and better social relationships.
That's the most funny thing I've read all year. No offense but that's a load of lies. The more partners, the more of a mess you become. I've seen real life examples, tons of them. Even my brother is exactly this. Not to mention actual studies have been done and the statistics will oppose you. And I don't mean some pseudo science, I mean things with documentation, proof that the study was conducted on real people. It's common sense that the more ex partners, the worse you become.

>True, it's just that you should express it in a healthy matter. Lately my mind has been wanting to perhaps do it the wrong way.

The question is what do you want and what are you looking for? Often what is said in jest actually has a nugget of truth to it. You might want to do a little introspection.

>My bf honestly recently began seeing I was getting eerie with my constant "daddy" jokes.
He doesn't like me calling him that even jokingly anymore.

It could be a little unsettling for him, particularly if he isn't entirely confident in himself. Assuming he is also early 20s I've found most people don't really have a true grasp on themselves until mid-late 20s, but that can be plus or minus. It can make it hard for him to stand tall as his own man without being in your father's reflection. Don't mention it again, for his sake.

>Sorry, it's 2am, I wish I could reply with more but I'm tired as of now and can't think.

That is fine. I'm enjoying the discussion, but I have to be at the hospital by 4am so I'm only going to be up another hour or so.

>That's the most funny thing I've read all year. No offense but that's a load of lies
"Research, including some conducted by Vrangalova, shows that if you ask people, hypothetically, whether they'd prefer to be friends with someone who is promiscuous or someone who isn't, they do prefer the non-promiscuous person. In practice, however, promiscuous people actually report having more friends and close relationships. This is likely related to the fact that promiscuous people are often extroverts. "They're more gregarious, get more energized around people. They're often liked by others," says Vrangalova. "Because of their extroversion, they're people that people gravitate toward." These people also usually come off as more positive and happy."
Take the data as you will.

>I've seen real life examples
Anecdotal evidence isn't evidence, unfortunately.
>Not to mention actual studies have been done and the statistics will oppose you
>And I don't mean some pseudo science, I mean things with documentation, proof that the study was conducted on real people
Post them.
>It's common sense that the more ex partners, the worse you become.
Define what that means; the "worse" you become. What does that mean?

>"From this research, it seems clear that people tend to report preferring altruistic partners. However, preferences do not always translate into real-world mating decisions, and we wanted to know if altruists also happen to experience more mating success. Previous findings from hunter-gatherer populations have shown that men who hunt and share meat often enjoy greater reproductive access to women. But do these links hold up in other cultural and contextual arenas, such as in contemporary North American society? To find out, we conducted a set of two studies. In our first study, undergraduate men and women completed an altruism questionnaire (involving questions like “I have donated blood”), along with a sexual history survey. Participants also completed a personality inventory, given the possibility that those with certain personality characteristics (such as being extroverted) might happen to engage in both more altruism and more sexual activity. We found that people who scored higher on altruism also reported they were more desirable to the opposite sex, had more sex partners, more casual sex partners, and had sex more often within relationships (although this latter finding was not statistically-significant after controlling for personality variables). The statistical models (including covariates) explained between 13 and 26% of variance in the sexual behavior variables. Moreover, altruism mattered more for men’s number of lifetime and casual sex partners than for women’s."

This study was conducted at University of Guelph and Nipissing University. The general hypothesis is that better liked people typically have more sexual partners. It seems as though you really don't want this to be the case but this is just one of several studies that find that people with more sexual partners typically both greater longevity and number of social relationships. If you have something that refutes this then post it.

Davey-Smith, G. et al. “Sex and Death: Are They Related? Findings for the Caerphilly Cohort Study,” BMJ (1997) 315(7123):1641.

Charnetski, C. and F.X. Brennan. “Sexual Frequency and Salivary Immunoglobulin A (IgA),” Psychological Reports (2004) 94:839.

Levy, J. (2002). Impotence and its medical and psychosocial correlates: results of the Massachusetts Male Aging Study. The British Journal of Diabetes & Vascular Disease, 2(4), 278–280. doi.org/10.1177/14746514020020040801

>University of Guelph
Hey! I'm there right now, neat.

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Dads are fucked up/absent, very likely was raped when little.

No, I wasn't raped.

I'm autistic, naturally childish personally - 27 yo female. And I practice DDLG regularly. It makes me feel safe, whole and supported, I like being coddles and especially taken advantage of. I love the trust and the feeling that "this is not supposed to be happening" and then I get a lot of coddles and sympathy afterwards "for doing such a good job" taking/ being abused and I love it.

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Also I had a great childhood and I was never raped. My only issue was never being heard and lack of attention but I find the whole daddy thing very comforting.

I've noticed in talking to other Doms that abuse is a very common kink and request from their "littles." It isn't my thing, but so long as you have a Dom that you can trust, it is good to explore anything that you find fulfilling.

I don't like being struck or anything hardcore but being pretend taken advantage of is our "abuse"
I've never felt the way in a normal relationship the way I do with a Daddy figure. I like to be innocent and helpless, at the mercy of someone who knows better ect.. Had a lot of time to think about it.

I can only speak for myself.

Emotionally, I don't identify with traditional masculinity, because I am not a socially dominant person.

I've always identified with teenage girls, ever since I was even a young boy. I don't know why.

Now that I'm old enough to be a father, the disconnect between my emotional and physical experiences has only intensified.

Feeling like a teenage girl doesn't mean you want to get fucked, though.

You can simultaneously identify with someone while being sexually dominant with them (which is the only context that I ever really enjoy being dominant, every other being one in which I seek cooperation among the most possible people without the use of any sort of force or coercion).

The point at which it becomes a form of bondage is where I nope out, and if push came to shove, I'd probably rate as a sub to a dominant woman (which is a different kink, but I'll have to cop to its being a close second for me).

It's important to state that a kink is different from a fetish, too: a fetish is something without which you can't fully enjoy sex, and a kink is something that enhances your experience (most people don't know this, so I thought I'd throw it out there).

Nothing is natural. Everything is either a fetish or a kink.

Sexuality doesn't have a "default" setting, only trends form from the words and actions of people (which, considering how rarely those two match up when it comes to sex, explains a lot...)

My girls often will disobey me knowing that they will be "punished". Though, like I said, I tend to attract bratty women. I've had them continue to act out more and more if I don't respond to it because it annoys them to no end.

Because they know you need them to - and this knowledge is what gives them the advantage of power.

See, I used to think that doms had the power, and subs were obviously the weaker of the two.

But when you think about it, it is the dom exerting force on a willing participant to elicit a certain expected response.

The sub has the power of non-response.

This is stronger than any other, because it means that the sub is unable to achieve any effect at all.

The void is impenetrable.

>sub
*dom*

I tell all my subs that they have power. It is their will that they choose to give, and they can take that back at any time.

Yeah, I've heard that line before.

That is a good thing so long as they abide by it. I would imagine that most Daddy types are going to be more doting about their subs simply due to the nurturing and guiding nature of the kink. That said, because of the depth of interpersonal relationship and trust that can border on dependency, there is a massive potential for causing damage.

>massive potential for causing damage

True. On both ends of the spectrum.

most people feel out of control and kinda lost so someone taking charge is a turn on same with femdom mommy fetish daddy fetish all the same shit

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>most people feel out of control and kinda lost so someone taking charge is a turn on...

This is a very superficial understanding of D/s and DDlg, and I would assume that you do not have experience in BDSM. The sexual aspects of the kink is simply the cherry-on-top. It is far from the actual sundae that makes the enter endeavor worthwhile which is trust. While a sub that is Mine might get turned on by certain aspects of control and power exchange, what they want out of the relationship is an environment that allows them to express their desires and grow as people. It is incumbent as a Daddy to understand their goals and help them meet them, while also finding your own fulfillment in the relationship.

>...same with femdom mommy fetish daddy fetish all the same shit

You simply lack the knowledge and experience to meaningfully understand the nuances. This isn't uncommon, as most people have very little idea of what goes into D/s relationships like this.

>Can mother issues cause it too/how?
No, mother issues cause stuff like being a dom, having a codependent personality, and suppressing the fact that you like GFD

you literally just confirmed what i said

most people feel out of control and kinda lost so they crave an environment that will provide security to them something can be a turn on without going straight to sex

This does seem to be an underlying existential drive for a great number of people.

You're definitely not wrong.

Studies generally haven't found any cause. That said, they have found that more sexually open couples are more likely to practice bdsm in general, so my conclusion is that it's some archaic part of human nature that pornography and a heavily sexualized culture have encouraged to an unhealthy degree.

>codependent personality
What you mean?

>GFD
What's that?

It's not part of human nature either, it's just caused by media and a deteriorating society. People follow trends. However in this case, OP clearly stated they are greatly appalled by said culture and have stayed far away from it to avoid influence.

I know many girls who are into the daddy kink and don’t have daddy or family issues.

I think the daddy kink is a pretty natural thing.
Women desire a mate that has dad like characteristics
And is dominant
So to protect her and her future children

Same with men who look for a kind and nurturing partner so that she can raise his children properly


It’s instinctual

You can take a daddy kink in many ways but I think that’s the base of it

You want to be desired and taken care of as a woman. Youre attracted to masculine men. The ideal form of a man taking care of a girl is father-daughter so you're attracted to that kind of bond.

I wouldn't be surprised at all if there were many men who felt the same way but its horribly unattractive to be a submissive and needy Male.

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