Éire/pol/: death to imposters edition

Reminder to Éire/pol/ to join the National party if you haven’t already, and make sure everyone in your community knows they exist, you can do this by putting up posters, distributing leaflets, or by simple word of mouth, don’t ever think that Éire/pol/ is a substitute for real action. “The almighty has never helped a lazy man. He does not help the coward, he does not help a people that can not help itself, the principal applies here”

I used to think he was a scumbag, but considering what’s happening now, I realise that enda was just the lesser of an innumerable amount of evil.

I’ve never voted here in my life, and I encourage everyone to abstain from voting ever, until NP makes their way up here.

Once I get a car and a loicense there'll be midnight poster campaigns every weekend
I think enda was just going along with it
probably not a very smart man
but probably not really evil either
good man, can't wait to read about the big fella

Ireland is a meme country that only ever existed because of Britain. You have the same chance of unification as India and Pakistan.

Post pics lad, it would do wonders for moral, and encourage others to take action.

Both the UK and the Republic of Ireland intend for Ireland to be united, and have since partition. You have to be in complete and utter denial or simply not have read literally any history of 20th Century Ireland to now be aware of this.

It's literally just a waiting game until NI is mick'd enough to be worth having, and its well on the way there.

Of course, anything for the /lads/

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Reposting this. Please don't use anything other than either one of these or a newly edited one as an OP for éire/pol/, theming is good.

Totally this.

You are all utterly wasting your time unless you focus on destroying industrial society. The world of the future will be so radically different than it is today because of radical new technologies and their impacts will alter society and human values and morality in radical and completely unpredictable and unmanageable ways, that any attempts to guide politics in the here and now is utterly, utterly pointless.

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That makes sense but at which point were we too technologically advanced?

This. It's pretty much common sense, and anyone with an IQ over 110 who takes 5 minutes to genuinely reflect on the world-situation should realize it. The fact that so few do is a great testament to propaganda, and the human capacity for denial and self deception.

"...the overwhelmingly dominant problem of our time is that technology
threatens either to destroy the world or to transform it so radically that
all past questions of human values will simply become irrelevant, because
the human race, as we have known it, will no longer exist. I don’t mean
that the human race necessarily will become physically extinct (though
that is a possibility), but that the way human beings function socially and
psychologically will be transformed so radically as to make traditional
questions of values practically meaningless. The old-fashioned conformist
will become as obsolete as the old-fashioned individualist.
Since this is the most critical juncture in the history of the human
race, all other issues MUST BE SUBORDINATED to the problem of stopping
the technological juggernaut before it is too late."

-Theodore Kaczynski, "Technological Slavery" Letters to Dr. Skrbina

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BASED.

HELLO AGAIN OUR GOOD BURGERFRIEND.

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You are asking a good question. But it is a non-valid question. In other words, we cannot say at what "point" we became too technologically advanced, and then "decide" to revert to that time. We can only ask "what can be done."

History mainly evolved to this point due to objective factors independent of human will. All we can do is try to change the objective factors and the human and social situation that is dependent on those factors will change.

Right now, industrial technology is organization-dependent. We can destroy the objective conditions that make it organization dependent, but we can't predict or control what shape or form a non-organization dependent technological civilization rises in place.

In other words, f the social organization of industrial technology were to break down, then the technology that relies on that organization will also break down (like in Ancient Rome with the breakdown of their organization-dependent technologies that lasted for over 1000 years). But we cannot control or predict how primitive civilizations will arise, because primitive civilizations rely on individual-dependent technology (a plow, a wheel, etc.--things that individuals can make on their own) and there is no way of predicting or controlling how individuals direct their work unless their is a world-wide technological civilization to organize them.

So the best we can hope for is for industrial society to collapse and organization-dependent technology to dissolve. In it's place, several individual-dependent technology civilizations will likely arise, but we can't predict or control their formation and character-- they will be scattered and few, and will not be able to destroy the biosphere or completely suffocate the individual and threaten existential disaster. The situation will be much like things were throughout ancient history: A vast wilderness, with pockets of civilization.

This only works if everyone does it, and somehow I doubt the chinks are going to deindustrialise just because we are.

HELLO IRELAND.

HOW ARE YOU?

THE INDUSTRIAL REVOLUTION AND ITS CONSEQUENCES HAVE BEEN A DISASTER FOR THE HUMAN RACE.

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WHAT DO YOU THINK WILL HAPPEN TO THE CHINESE INDUSTRIAL CAPACITY IF THEIR MATERIAL IMPORTS STOPPED?

LEARN THE TRUTH.

THERE IS A WAY, THAT WE CAN DO THIS.

BASED AND TED PILLED.

Not true. The global industrial system is entering a period where it is highly complex, highly inter-dependent, and tightly coupled. Like a house of cards, a single disruption in one area will lead to total collapse of the entire system. And one the system has collapsed, there are many reasons why it would be impossible to re-start it.

And how many hard-core, fanatical revolutionaries are needed to cause the disruption that leads to total collapse? 1000? 100? Not many.

NOTE: Keep in mind, all you need for a successful revolution is a tiny tiny minority of highly committed extremists: The Bolsheviks only numbered around 3000 people when they took control of all of Russia---something like 1/8 the total earth land area!

But even in their case, they tried to create a new society. Anti-tech revolutionaries have no such illusions. All they seek to do is destroy the existing order. Period.

And destruction is far, far, far easier than construction.

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I agree with Ted until he starts saying that you can't plan a system for a post-tech world.
I can see where he's coming from, with my double digit IQ, but there are plenty of people who can restart basic communities after the event. Pair in books from before the collapse and reversion to simpler laws, job well under way at that stage.

THIS, BUT...

>there are many reasons why it would be impossible to re-start it.
MAYBE NOT IMPOSSIBLE DEPENDING ON THE NATURE AND SEVERITY OF THE COLLAPSE OF THE PRESENT INDUSTRIAL CIVILISATION, BUT INCREDIBLY, INCREDIBLY DIFFICULT.

>I agree with Ted until he starts saying that you can't plan a system for a post-tech world.
YOU CAN'T PLAN OUT A SOCIETY ON PAPER FOR A POST-TECHNOLOGICAL-INDUSTRIAL CIVILISATION THOUGH. THE VARIABLES ARE FAR TOO MANY AND FAR TOO GREAT. IT WOULD VERY MUCH DEPEND ON THE NATURE AND SEVERITY OF THE COLLAPSE OF THE PRESENT CIVILISATION, THE CONSEQUENCES OF WHICH ARE IMPOSSIBLE TO PREDICT.

IT'S THE SAME REASON WHY YOU CANNOT SIMPLY DESIGN A NEW FORM OF SOCIETY ON PAPER AND EXPECT IT TO WORK EXACTLY AS PLANNED, BUT MUCH WORSE AND MUCH MORE UNPREDICTABLE.

PLEASE STOP SHOUTING
You can start a forge and making new metal implements almost immediately, if you can guard it.

Early monasticism would be my idea of a new civilisation being made. People will natural revert to Brehon Law/Laws of Manu after corperations and banks go down.

You (as a group) can prepare for many eventualities, if you have a strong, well educated leader with vision you can make it.
As I said, revert to pre-industrial revolution laws and learn fundamental skills like metal work, carpentry and science before hand.

Or much better if you have a unifying mythos, if the characters are believable, as /lit/ says.

>but there are plenty of people who can restart basic communities after the event. Pair in books from before the collapse and reversion to simpler laws, job well under way at that stage.

It's unclear to me what you mean here. I think what you are saying is twofold:
1) that post-collapse, individuals will be able to plan their own communities.
2) and that after starting their own communities, they will be able to rebuild industrial civilization.

Is this correct?

Kaczynski never stated, nor is it ever implied, that individuals will not be able to direct or control the development of their societies AFTER the collapse of the industrial system---IN THE SHIRT-TERM. What is argued is that they will not be able to restart industrial civilization because of resource depletion.

These post-industrial people can read all the books they want, and start all the different social experiments and individual-dependent technological civilizations they want, but (a) they still won't be able to restart industrial civilization, and (b) even the development and direction of their (primitive) civilizations in the long-term will be beyond their rational control, just as all human societies where and are.

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typo: "IN THE SHORT TERM" lol

eeeuuuwww. "anprims" are pathetic. John Zerzan is a moron. And most of those types are quasi-leftists who think primitive society is a lot of ring-around-the-rosy bullshit.

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>You can start a forge and making new metal implements almost immediately, if you can guard it.
CORRECTION: YOU MAY BE ABLE TO START A FORGE AND START MAKING METAL IMPLEMENTS ALMOST IMMEDIATELY. YOU MAY NOT. THAT WOULD DEPEND ON A VERY LARGE NUMBER OF VARIABLES.

>You (as a group) can prepare for many eventualities, if you have a strong, well educated leader with vision you can make it.
YOU CAN PREPARE FOR MANY EVENTUALITIES AND YOUR PREPARATIONS MAY BE SUFFICIENT, BUT THEN AGAIN THEY MAY NOT. MANY REASONABLE PREPARATIONS GO OUT THE WINDOW IF YOU'RE ON THE BACK END OF A NUCLEAR DETONATION'S SHOCKWAVE. NEVERTHELESS, IT'S FAR BETTER TO BE WELL PREPARED FOR AS MANY EVENTUALITIES AS POSSIBLE THAN NOT.

>As I said, revert to pre-industrial revolution laws and learn fundamental skills like metal work, carpentry and science before hand.
THIS IS A VERY GOOD IDEA, BUT IT'S NOT POSSIBLE FOR MANY PEOPLE. WE HAVE LOST A LOT OF OUR SMALL-SCALE TECHNOLOGICAL SKILLS.

He says, iirc, you can't plan out the shape of the new society, I disagree there, as if you can feed, say, 100 fighting age men,you would have a de facto tribal military dictatorship.

It won't be fixed after 2 or 3 generations, but we can leave it as a guide like the old myths of Atlantis, if you codify it into a mythos it will unite all the tribe from the next generation onward (people who only lived post-collapse) Then you end up with the 3 original Brehon Law classes, which is a highly codified system, and it doesn't take long to figure out how it works,the next generation would be experts of their own flavour.

But I see externalities have an impact and that can't be planned for 100%,same as in the present.

NO.

>THE TRUTH ABOUT PRIMITIVE LIFE: A CRITIQUE OF ANARCHOPRIMITIVISM BY THEODORE KACZYNSKI
theanarchistlibrary.org/library/ted-kaczynski-the-truth-about-primitive-life-a-critique-of-anarchoprimitivism

>Forge
It's pretty handy, Smelting Ore is a harder job, but there would still be alot of metal waste buried almost everywhere, old bathtubs out in fields, barbed wire etc.

>may not
That's the fun of living
If the new society begins eating slime off rocks in a cave, it would be pretty shit for the survivors, but the kids wouldn't know any different.

>He says, iirc, you can't plan out the shape of the new society, I disagree there, as if you can feed, say, 100 fighting age men,you would have a de facto tribal military dictatorship.
YOU'RE RIGHT IN A SENSE BUT HE'S TALKING ABOUT A MUCH LARGER SCALE WHERE MANY MORE VARIABLES WOULD MAKE PRECALCULATION MUCH MORE DIFFICULT.

What's going on with our children's minister and the scouts?

THIS.

I'm going to stop replying until you learn what caps lock is.
Kiddy diddlers, not just the evil church at it.
idk about the paedo gang though
that would be fun to dig out someuseful info for the public tho.

RIGHT.

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I'M NOT USING CAPS LOCK.

One of her gay advisers married a man only a year after they drove a homeless 17 year old to nearly commit suicide after molesting them so she is hiring people with poor judgement and therefore she has to go

Solidarity and wilderness forever mate. You really need to go here: anti-tech.boards.net/

...and organize efforts with like-minded people.

is that zappone?
cretin

Anyone seen GT new video? Fella is gonna step on some toes

he needs his own memes

Zappone? She's a dirty minger

Jujitsu memes. Could have his head imposed onto someone giving a rear naked choke and the person being choked as Leo or one of those NGO creeps

You ARE India and Pakistan mate

you're already in the red zone when you start organizing humans to better fit machines and not the other way around. think the shift from imperial to metric measures

>vote Sinn Féin to cuck the DUP
>wait for them to try push from faggy referendum for something
>vote against them

Despite being probably the worst party in Ireland they are totally powerless. They could have every single seat in Northern Ireland, the second NI becomes part of the ROI all their communist plots are fucked.

some jackie chan drunken monkey moves making a fool of RTE