Are fascism and communism the same thing authoritarianistically.?
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Are fascism and communism the same thing authoritarianistically.?
Adrian Evans
Brayden Williams
Both were a strongly leftist, democratic movement ultimately rooted in the French Revolution that unleashed forces of egalitarianism, conformity, materialism and centralization.
Colton Powell
Are water and orange juice the same thing liquidistically?
Nolan Moore
So is the true war against the authitarians?
Jason Williams
its all opression by the masses. Ones about national strengh. the other is a bout cultural strengh
Adam Edwards
Yes.
They both require complete power in the head of state and individuals to give up all affective rights.
In both systems the state can do whatever it wants
Chase Cooper
In the sense that they place the state above all else, yes.
Caleb Cooper
Fight me
Charles Peterson
They both rely heavily on government force, though they are seeking opposite ends
Jordan Roberts
So, is globalism like authoritsrianism but without a specific national goal? Just in the hands of the global elite?
Brayden Powell
No.
Globalism is just crony capitalism trending towards aristocracy
Jack Lewis
No. For some reason people get mixed up between Communism and Socialism.
The very definition of Communism:
Communism: A stateless, moneyless, and classless society in which the commune/workers groups own all the means of production.
Communism has no state - it's an anarchist society. Socialism has a state.
I'm not a commie or socialist - just in case you call me one.
Alexander Roberts
It sounds like globalism, if it's more like an aristocratic regime like you said, would eventually become authoritarian.
Brayden Morgan
Ya I get what you said, but I never brought up socialism or libertarianism.
James Price
Worker ownership of means of production is just a fancy way of saying public ownership which is just a tricky way of saying state ownership.
What you have to understand about hard core leftism is it requires forced and complete submission to the state, wrong think is not allowed making everyone equal me as making everyone powerless
Connor Jackson
Explain further desu
Tyler Ortiz
Your spacing says you are mixed up between reddit and Jow Forums.
Not in the same in your face way as communist or fascist. Those do it at the end of a gun.
You would in theory have rights and choices in a modern aristocratic system, but all the good schools would be out of your budget, and hence all the good jobs, you’d have the choice of jobs but really you would need to start working as soon as possible to eat.
End of derfering to aristocratic systems of power based off birth.
Josiah Gutierrez
Fascism was a rejection of egalitarianism and materialism, Mussolini may have began as a Marxist anarcho-sydicalist, but was ibfluenced by Pareto and the Italian school of elitism to reject many of the philosophical bases of Marxist ideology. This coupled with Gentiles philosophical views is what laid the groundwork for fasism.
Also, the French Revolution was a mistake and one of the worst things to happen to Europe.
Ethan Evans
This is why there are two axis.
Anyways be aware of “bucket thinking”
Bucket thinking is when you think there are always only two (or a few) sides to a issue. The middlebrow media trains you to think like this “artlce about X” 3rd or. 4th paragraph “and here is the counter aurgument from Y” we are being balanced!
Juan White
Ethan Rodriguez
Gavin Murphy
Make that a horseshoe if you don’t want to look retarded
Levi Cooper
James Hernandez
thats a tard question but i'll bite
they're both authoritarian, yes, but with very different desired results
communism ultimately aims for globalism (judiasm) and a social upheaval resulting in the abolition of state
fascism is nationalistic, aimed at the preservation/promotion of the state in the interests of the people of that state
national socialism isn't very different, but it's more race based
Asher Bennett
>stolen from keith
lmao back to facebook you boomer faggot
Anthony Bailey
No you
Adrian Martin
Asher Perez
>Libertarianism leads to fascism
Does not compute
Camden Miller
That image is actually correct. Good post.
Liam Roberts
You can think of communism as pre-fascism.
Both communism and socialism become fascism as the implementers discover what they are doing doesn't fucking work.