Women are prone to degradation because they have no margins for their degeneracy or limits to their guile. Their depravity knows no bounds. They are unable to regulate their own behaviour and are even incapable of understanding why their behaviour is wrong. Women will stop at nothing but shame or force. They must be maintained accordingly.
You must set the bounds. They require fear to reset them, otherwise they get lost in their own stupidity—a real fantasy world devoid of restrictions to their silly imaginations. Out of touch with reality, they are unable to filter or read situations properly, because they’ve never been grounded by fear. This is why Western women are the most vacuous and unhappy women in the world desperately medicating themselves into synthetic homeostasis.
Women who are not constrained go feral with seething hatred of everything around them. Western women have no love for you, just hatred that you occupy space. Treat them with respect and they will spit in your face. They ignore any man who does not shamelessly despise them. Good luck scoring these whores with kindness and consideration. Hate game and trauma bonding is the only way to make an impression on such jaded sluts. They may not like it, but they RESPOND to it. Women appreciate cruelty more than anything else, and respect only one thing: POWER. Women are biologically designed to develop Stockholm syndrome. Subconsciously they understand they deserve such treatment. They are not worthy of civility or respect. Treat them like dirt right up to the legal limit, and they will value you like a new handbag. Hit them where it hurts most; in the feels. Take them down a notch. Her head is in the clouds, knock her off her pedestal. Slap her around to cuck-proof the relationship.
The truth is that you could make a million threads and the average Jow Forums user is still going to blame women for his failures in life.
Lincoln Phillips
It's not that women are the reason for their woes. It's that there's no incentive for men to contribute to this society.
Easton King
Christianity demands the submission of women too.
Read the book of Timothy.
Blake Sullivan
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Jackson Long
>It's that there's no incentive for men to contribute to this society.
There's exactly the same incentive that there has been for the thousands of generations of men that came before you, the only difference is that unlike them you're entitled enough to expect others to hand it to you on a silver platter.
Joseph Foster
Don't use physical violence, but yes, all of it is absolutely true.
It wasn't till I understood this (fairly late - early 30s) that I was really successful, especially in bed.
It still freaks me out btw just how fucked up this is. But that's humanity.
I don't expect anything to be handed to me personally. But there are plenty of men that are saying to themselves it's just not worth it to contribute to a society where they'll marry some used up cum dumpster.
Spoken like a boomer. Yeah thanks for wrecking our culture and turning into a hedonistic orgy of pure pleasure seeking. Shlomo is very happy with your progress. Now go take ur blood pressure medication. Hurry up dying too.
Logan Hall
Have you ever read the perverted garbage women read in romance novels? They are far more perverted than men are.
Lincoln Rivera
No. Contraception is new, and has altered the supply and demand dynamics. It's a new world.
>They are unable to regulate their own behaviour and are even incapable of understanding
This is why women MUST not have rights, but have male owners ( father or husband or merchant )
Gabriel Fisher
You don't even know what you're arguing against, dumbass. I'm trying to help you.
>But there are plenty of men that are saying to themselves it's just not worth it to contribute to a society where they'll marry some used up cum dumpster.
How is it that Jow Forums says this shit all the time and never strings together the cause and effect? Have you ever considered that the used-up cum dumpster is your just deserts?
This board is full of horny betas who spend their teens and twenties jerking off to porn, salivating over scantily-clad women on the street, and generally giving attention (the sole female currency) to women who put out just because you thought you might get your dick wet. And now that you hit the male wall, you have the audacity to sit here and complain that you can't find a virginal tradwife? You have the audacity to claim you don't expect anything to be handed to you? This is the future you chose, memeflag.
>Feminism is a virus a bio terror attack Close, but nope.
Feminism is female nature, unristricted. Which is an unnatural state.
Allowing female rights is the virus.
In other words : Feminism is a virus that has soley infected MEN ! MEN's brains are being infected, not females !
Feminism is a mind-'virus' that infects MALE BRAINS ! Feminism is a mind-'virus' that infects MALE BRAINS ! Feminism is a mind-'virus' that infects MALE BRAINS ! Feminism is a mind-'virus' that infects MALE BRAINS !
ONLY.
THIS is a BASIC redpill. Digest it to gain another crucial level of enlightenment.
I beg you to think about this so you deeply understand it. For understanding this is crucial for finding the solution.
roast beef flaps you have to go back 2 reddit. Why did you come here when we obviously despise you? Why are you here? To fuck everything up as usual? Whats your purpose here? what are you doing? You dont belong can you not see that?
> if I assume the worst of you I win the argument. Lmfao I wonder who's raging. Otherwise you'd just brush this off. But no, you came in here to broadcast your butthurt. Cry harder faggot hahahaha
Aiden Sanchez
Feminism is female nature, unristricted. Which is an unnatural state.
Allowing female rights is the virus.
In other words : Feminism is a virus that has soley infected MEN ! MEN's brains are being infected, not females !
Feminism is a mind-'virus' that infects MALE BRAINS ! Feminism is a mind-'virus' that infects MALE BRAINS ! Feminism is a mind-'virus' that infects MALE BRAINS ! Feminism is a mind-'virus' that infects MALE BRAINS !
ONLY.
THIS is a BASIC redpill. Digest it to gain another crucial level of enlightenment.
I beg you to think about this so you deeply understand it. For understanding this is crucial for finding the solution.
Based and depressingly true. The fucked up thing is that I know I'm not even a "misogynist" for understanding and accepting this truth. I've cried over this. The realization that this was the reality destroyed me emotionally, physically and spiritually. I didn't WANT it to be this way. As a man I WANTED women to be intelligent, capable and respectable. IDK though, the truth is the truth. The reality is the reality. Everyone has to face it at some point and in the current year, as they're totally let off the leash and running wild, they're just going out of their way to prove it to everyone, even as they get "offended" and "indignant" at the men who openly call them out on the truth of their deep-down-spirits.
Connor Gonzalez
It's a two way street I agree. But you keep going on about handouts. Which I expect none. And shows the fact that you're probably in your mid to late 50s. Which means completely disconnected from the mess that your generations have made for the younger ones. The elders are supposed to guide the youth. The elders have failed enormously in this respect and now men are scrambling to find a decent wife or are simply dropping out of society. It's mostly the latter.
How does it feel knowing that our society is dying?
its not new you fuck tard. there was a plant that the romans and greeks used as a natural contraceptive called silphium. There are also other plants as well.
Don't talk about shit you don't know about
Angel Bell
Meanwhile on /b/ underage boys are handing thots money in blind love
I honestly don't hate women; I've had way too many nice experiences with them to hate them. On the other hand Western thots are not women--they don't rise to that standard. They are literally whores and shoukd be treated accordingly.
Jacob Stewart
>women are evil shit and water is wet
Jaxon Gutierrez
>natural contraceptive called silphium
I'm talking about something a bit more reliable than the fucking withdrawal method.
Bentley Gutierrez
And your argument is??? I won't hold my breath. Keep coping faggot.
Aussie brother you are completely right, all of these fags love Tupac. You know what he said about women, “you gotta shake that bitch and break that bitch”. Sorry cucks that’s why a wife that’s beaten by her always comes back and makes excuses for him. You cucks will never learn.
Nolan Gutierrez
*whos beaten by her husband.
Lincoln Jones
> destroyed me emotionally
?
LARP harder. At least try to make it sound male.
If you're actually a guy larping as a woman larping as a guy, well, that's above and beyond.
Tyler Carter
>There are legitimately men who believe that you can simply be an "alpha" and turn a whore into a housewife.
YOUR DAILY REMINDER: IF SHE'S NOT A VIRGIN SHE WILL NEVER BE MARRIAGE MATERIAL.
>But you keep going on about handouts. Which I expect none.
Your mere existence in this thread proves this to be a lie.
If you wanted a society where a man even as undesirable as you could have a wholesome spouse then you should have been, and should be now, cultivating a culture where female promiscuity is looked upon with severe distaste.
Instead you continue to allow your carnal urges to get the best of you. It would not surprise me at all if you had /gif/ or /s/ open in a separate tab right now. You indeed expect to have your cake, your abundant porn, your whorish, scantily-clad women, and eat it too.
Further, not only do you reject this basic fact, you can't even take responsibility for it. You have to blame boomers for your problems, and claim that it's out of your power to change anything.
Now tell me, who else has no agency in their lives? Who else blames other people for their troubles? Who else expects to be able to act in any way they please and still get what they claim they want?
Perhaps the problem is that Jow Forums is full of men who have the brains of women. I used to blame the single mothers, but that implies that you aren't able to change. So now that you know, it's your fault.
Nicholas Wilson
God i wish that was me
Jack Perez
> That's vanity, son.
It's reality grandpa.
Easton Robinson
>While my soul was still searching but not finding, among a thousand I have found one upright man, but among all these I have not found a virtuous woman.
Hunter Flores
Sounds like you projects gramps.
Nathan Bell
White women are the fucking worst. I can't deny it. I'm white and I'm all into white nationalism and shit, but white women are the fucking worst. I hate it. Before I got into white nationalism I dated women who weren't white, and they weren't the same way. They didn't judge you for every little thing. They weren't perpetually fickle. They weren't perpetually trying to test you, or provoke you. They were manipulative, for sure, but it was the kind of manipulative where they were trying to keep you all for themselves and IMO that is the acceptable kind of manipulation.
White women, on the other hand, just try to make you constantly jump through hoops. They cut you off if you have some minor political difference from them, or if you don't dress fashionably enough.
I was a male model in my 20s. I know it's not that I'm "ugly" and white women just have no use for me sexually, or any of the other shit that incels usually claim. It's JUST white women being white women. They're fucking awful. You look at the men they end up in actual relationships with too and 90% of the time they're soulless, ugly, rotten cucks who just do ANYTHING the white woman says.......but then turns around and cheats on the girl habitually cuz all the other white women are after cucks like that too.
It's the most backward, fucked up dynamic I've ever seen, and yet I see it everywhere today.
A white woman doesn't want ANYTHING else than to keep a slimy, manipulative con man around who kisses her ass to her face, but then lies, manipulates, deceives, pimps her out and occasionally snaps and brutalizes her like a dog that's been beat too much. Also he should be conscious of fashion and provide her with some form of status among other, similarly fucked up white women. This is what white women want out of their men today.
That's the state of white romantic relationships today. This is a big part of why the white race is fucked.
It's a system that ensures the WORST mates procreate.
Asher Williams
FPBP
Leo Cook
Damn dyslexia, I’ll do this slowly. YOURE PROJECTING GRAMPS. Put a gun in your mouth and pull the trigger.
Sebastian Scott
Don't be naive by giving boomer-tier "just pull yourself up by your bootstraps" advice. We know that it's not impossible to find a good traditional wife, but it's becoming increasingly more difficult due to societal issues which we didn't create and currently have no control over. The institution of marriage has been fucked over and contraception and abortion have become socially acceptable and readily available. We're getting to the point where half of all marriages end in divorce. Hook-up culture and fuck apps have become the social norm. The courts are unfair and women can leech off daddy government via welfare and alimony payments. Good, hardworking men get fucked over by divorce on a daily fucking basis.
These are all societal problems that require political action. Sure, maybe if you work really hard you'll get lucky and find a nice girl in a sea of whores, but that's not the point. You have to think in terms of statistics and groups. There's a finite amount of "trad wives", and that amount is decreasing rapidly with time. You have to realize that these societal trends are fucking over more and more men and this doesn't bode well for civilization.
Sebastian Hernandez
Huh? WTF even are you saying? No wonder Germany is fucked. Germany posters say the most messed up nonsense.
Adrian Gomez
What he said made sense dumbass.
Ayden Richardson
>It's a system that ensures the WORST mates procreate.
Aaaand that's literally the plan. It's intentional dysgenetics. just like the welfare state and wars
>projecting Since you choose to attack me personally instead of addressing the point let me tell you. I don't watch porn, I abstain from masturbation as much as possible. I have disciplined mysself and have worked incredibly hard. I advocate for myself, recognize my fauults, and continue to improve myself. Maybe you should look at yourself. I make no claims that it's all the boomers fault. But I recognize that the failings of former generations is what have led us to this mess we have now.
Have you ever refused th advances of a woman? I have. Several times. I don't care for scantily clad women, I expect modesty. I hold myself to a high standard and the Lord, in all His greatness, makes me better than I am every day.
Anything else?
Lincoln Lee
i gotta agree with the sandfolks on this one. treating their women like garbage really does make a difference. they're much more well behaved than ours. i think the bigger trick is how do we get white women to be more like japanese girls.
Henry Cooper
>Boomers dindu nuffin the post It's all lazy young peoples fault we literally tanked the economy to the point where it's physically impossible to work work you're up in a company. Where job security is laughable at best. Instead of actually taking the time to raise your daughters you sat them in front of fucking mtv and did nothing while they turned to whores. Then you turn around and REEE about hte younger generation you fucking raised? Are you really that self unaware? Yea millennials can be shit. A lot of them are lazy but if you honestly think the fault isn't 50/50 here you're in denial of your own generations fault fucking hypocrite. Happy to call out others flaws but never looking to yourself either.
Jonathan Price
We don’t allow fags in this country sir.
Ryder Green
Fucking leaf.
Mason Powell
>Don't use physical violence You're a retard. Every authority is backed up by at least a threat of violence. ALWAYS. PERIOD. FULL STOP.
Boomer-tier take. Enjoy pretending that one guy abstaining from porn and posting about whores on a corner of the internet is going to cause mass societal change.
Let me guess, if he can't single handedly change society, he doesn't deserve what most other generations took for granted, right? Fuck off with the bootstrap mentality, nigger.
Julian Ortiz
lern 2 b8 m8
Jaxson Fisher
That's a very helpful and brutally honest write up. Thanks for posting. My father told me years ago that the only think that will control women is a direct threat to their survival (or the illusion of one).
Carter Sanchez
where is that video with sould and context, PLEASE ?! cannot find ...
Yes. I agree actually. I think there are undoubtably forces, numerous forces, who understand what they're doing by encouraging white women to procreate with weak and ugly males. It's the people pushing "the ugly duckling" mythos. It's the people pushing the "football player rapist" stereotype (that normally doesn't end up being true). It's the same people who disparage white culture, "frat culture", conservative culture, "bros" and so forth.
Think about all of the TV shows on the WB or fucking Lifetime, or anywhere else, where the good-looking guy is an evil manipulator and the more plain, dorky, betacuck is actually "the good guy" who comes to the rescue in the end, or proves his loyalty to the woman in the end. And the two end up together. This is blatant brainwashing and programming from someone who just absolutely hates white women and despises them.
It's very simple. Convince your enemies women to either not breed or breed with someone who will produce an unfit offspring and you will have defeated your enemy within a generation.
Furthermore, there are people who just want humanity to become a weak goblin race that is dependent upon government and the system because these people will be able to perform the menial, information-based tasks that are necessary in this changing, more-information-based economy, yet they'll still be too weak to rock the boat.
They don't want Based Conservative Chad's running around with ideas about freedom, autonomy, self-sufficiency, and thinking that nobody has the right to tell them what to do or how to live their life, right? No. They want the weak little male fashionista, who has pretty much already given himself over to "the collective", "the hive", "the system" or whatever you want to call it. He's basically already a woman and women are weak and submissive. Women are the best slaves. So why wouldn't your slavemasters want to turn men into women too?
Connor Lopez
No problem. None of that post is my original thought, just varioys pol and DS screen caps I copy and pasted into a coherent argument.
Ethan Richardson
>You have to realize that these societal trends are fucking over more and more men and this doesn't bode well for civilization.
The problem is self-correcting and the only men who get left behind are the ones who refuse to meet the challenges of their time, Jow Forums being the prime example. There are millions and millions of men who are making it work, even thriving, today. This world is only difficult when you let the blackpill from the Jow Forums trannies take hold and believe that you don't have agency as they don't.
>you're a boomer >but you're projecting, not me
Zero agency, just like a woman.
>the "I'm just one man" defense
One wonders where we'd be today if everyone was as unremarkable as you.
The male wall is what happens the day you wake up and you realize that your years of encouraging women to have casual sex in hopes of maybe getting your dick wet has left you with nothing but bitter, used-up women to start a family with.
Like women, you traded short-term, empty pleasures for long-term stability and happiness. But it's actually worse for you. Unlike women, who inevitably will settle down with the betas of Jow Forums with some degree of contentment, probably without even realizing what happened, you'll be stuck for the rest of your life realizing that you sold out your future for nothing but a few years of cheap thrills. You'll look at your wife every day with the understanding that you could easily have had your virginal tradwife if only you had been stronger and more willing to keep your base desires in check.
welll, they were raised by women ( school system / totally ferral cunt system )
Justin Parker
Go fuck yourself. Your posts are empty.
Aiden Brown
>I honestly don't hate women, but... >I am honestly not a racist, but...
Stop beating yourself up, user. Hating women is a gaslighting meme propagated by boomers. Nobody seriously hates women to want them dead or tortured for pleasure. On the other hand, if you don't "hate" women for their degenerate and subversive behavior, you're delusional cuck.
Women need to be reigned in, and everyone here seem to agree on that. Except some choose approach it from them "just be alpha bro" angle, which is retarded at best.
>but muh Jews Even if 100% Jew fault (which it isn't), it doesn't matter. There is no practical difference between enemy soldier charging at you, who is brainwashed or truly evil. You have to deal with them before you can get to their generals.
It's incredible how you've completely dodged valid points in favor of vague, bootstrap nonsense.
A guy who has his shit in order, abstains from porn, tries to explain why promiscuity is bad, avoids casual sex or any relationship unlikely to lead to marriage is by no means guaranteed a virgin wife.
You're treating this as if it's a simple input/output function and it's anything but. You can't "easily have had a virginal tradwife," they're an exceedingly rare minority these days.
Every post in this thread has been the same sort of bullshit, self help-esque boomer takes that shift all responsibility toward the individual and deflects any blame that would otherwise be rightfully placed upon other people, cultural norms. and the sociopolitical framework.
Benjamin Price
deep
Zachary Morgan
>welll, they were raised by women ( school system / totally ferral cunt system )
This is a 100% correct observation. It's what happens when young men try to rebel against their single mothers, but they have never learned to operate outside the intellectual confines that mommy set for them. This is how you end up with Jow Forums users who approach their problems like women: they blame others, claim they're powerless to change anything, and expect others to fix things for them.
Unfortunately, you have to be careful because saying that it's caused by single mothers and women teachers leads Jow Forums to infer that they aren't responsible for their own actions. So always make sure to let them know that they are ultimately their own agents of change. Knowing is half the battle.
Apology accepted
>A guy who has his shit in order, abstains from porn, tries to explain why promiscuity is bad, avoids casual sex or any relationship unlikely to lead to marriage is by no means guaranteed a virgin wife.
No one said they were, but a society full of men who have their shit in order easily have many more virgin wives to choose from.
You can't dodge your complicity in your society just because you're one man. You're as much a part of your society as anyone else is and claiming you get a free pass to do what you want while expecting others to carry your water is precisely the problem.
>JBP-style solipsism Look, me punching you in the face is your fault because you didn't dodge fast enough. If only you were good at dodging punches, you wouldn't be such a loser with broken nose.
Oh you want to punch me back? Why so mad? Who hurt you? Take responsibility for your own problems, manchild!
Ayden Perry
You can't treat then too shitty. My woman left and fucked another dude because he treated her kindly and with more respect.
Jeremiah Martin
Point taken
Juan Carter
>Unfortunately, you have to be careful because saying that it's caused by single mothers and women teachers leads Jow Forums to infer that they aren't responsible for their own actions. So always make sure to let them know that they are ultimately their own agents of change. Knowing is half the battle.
Slippery slope, but i wouldnd be too concerned, since men by their nature are internally driven to proactiveness, to understand, to learn to control, so there is only a minor chance for men to fall into passiveness.
Very much unlike women, where blaming others is standart modus operandi. the blame game is also the core of marxism. that's why it works so well on women; In other words one could say : marxism is female nature.
Brandon Carter
Tits or gtfo woman.
Ryan Bailey
>No one said they were >You'll look at your wife every day with the understanding that you could easily have had your virginal tradwife
Beyond that, nowhere am I expecting to get a free pass to do what I want. I dropped porn completely before I turned 18, I've turned women down here and there, I break things off the minute I realize I'm not seeing someone who I could reasonably marry. I'm not exactly living a degenerate lifestyle.
Beyond that, I've personally compiled a fuck ton of data on why promiscuity is bad, I made a number of the infographs that get passed around here, and I routinely highlight every study that hints at shit like Microchimerism.
I literally picked up Psych classes, specifically so I could better understand the stuff I was reading, so that I could spread that information around.
It doesn't matter, I've passed the age to find a virgin wife now, no matter what I do it's extraordinarily unlikely that I get married.
This idea that everyone who disagrees with your boomer takes is somehow "expecting others to carry their water" or "living a degenerate lifestyle" is a cope.
Tyler Richardson
Fkg kek, and screen capped.
Dylan Harris
kill yourself
Matthew Jones
You keep going on about free this and hand out that. I'm telling you that men are simply dropping out of society at record numbers because they want nothing to do with this society. You have this weird way of making an argument about an individual, but at the same time condemning them for the collective.
You then go on about how all /pol users blame others for their problems. It's not true. Maybe you can recall /sig/?
You're smarmy.
Instead of admitting that were in this mess, a behavioral sink and this whole thread being about rearing in this behavior you just go on about children growing up in this society that was thrust upon them and then expecting everyone to come to the conclusion that this society is rotten. The death of Christian values and Christianity is the death of the West. Most people aren't Christians anymore. Most weren't raised properly. I agree that men need to take responsibility, but they have many have see no incentive nor have any desire to do so.
