The afterlife and or lack thereof

Good is not good enough to get into heaven.
ALL have sinned and fallen short of the glory of God.

We are born sons of man, Adam. His sin is passed on to all his offspring.
Only those who trust in the finished work of God's only begotten Son, Jesus, are adopted as Sons of God.

It is a specific term for those created directly by God, Bene HaElohim. It is why we recieve new bodies at Christ's return.

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I've got 15 years lol.
No gods no masters, we are born, we live we die, we are forgotten by the living

>How do you know that? It literally can't be proven one way or the other.

Most probably there isn't an Afterlife because we know that our brain produces consciousness and the brain dies after our death, even minor brain injuries results in loss of consciousness. The claim of an afterlife is indeed an extraordinary claim. Its same as saying that the law of gravity applies everywhere and every time except when the earth is destroyed, of course, it may be true and we may never prove it but it is very unlikely.

>To say there is no afterlife or there is no God / gods is saying that YOU are all knowing, that you are a god.

Being all-knowing does not make you a God and being God does not make you all knowing.
God means a conscious creator of the universe, it may or may not be all-knowing.

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When people see ghosts, it is really their personal cloaking devices malfunctioning.

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Aliens are real buddy

I don't care for any gods, when I die I just want to be dead.
Not spending eternity praising some arsehole God.
The God you quote is for Jews. Nothing to do with me.

>Do you believe in an after life?
no
>Do you realise what you believe in does not change the reality of whether one exist or not?
false
>Does the possibility of going to hell scare you?
no, even hell dark world wasn't that bad
>Are you a good person that will go to heaven?
no
>Are you evil?
no
>Thoughts on each Buddhist, Christians Hindus, Jews, Muslims ect. after life and where you fit in.
they all suck(except for Buddhists and maybe Hindus), but they kill each other so it's not that bad
>And also atheist.
fairly reasonable, still suck

elaborate

>Start with breathing two times per minute.
Is that how you deal with the smell?

hello operator

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Based

>It literally can't be proven one way or the other.
There is no need to prove a negative, ie, that there is no afterlife. The impetus is upon the believers to give proof of anything that happens after the grey matter synapse soup in your skull stops firing, beyond just decaying into fungus feed.

There's as much evidence to support your belief of an afterlife as there is supporting a scientologist's belief that a trillion years ago space aliens poured all the souls of the world into volcanoes, that is, none.

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even if this was true, which it isnt, afterlife would be highly probable. Your position is based on zero consideration of a. the fact that we are the creation of a highly advanced external intel (itself immortal) and b. a total lack of understanding re the level of modern technology

Re the brain producing consciousness. Not entirely. What if your consciousness resides in the cloud/elsewhere and the body is just one interface through which the body experiences this realm.

Kek. Top bantz mate.

>Do you believe in an after life?
Yes
>Do you realise what you believe in does not change the reality of whether one exist or not?
It does change your position in those systems like are you going to heaven, hell or purgatory
>Does the possibility of going to hell scare you?
Of course
>Are you a good person that will go to heaven?
I hope so
>Are you evil?
Not really
>Thoughts on each Buddhist, Christians Hindus, Jews, Muslims ect. after life and where you fit in.
Buddhists dont have a concreate system of belief
Hindus now thats stupid the whole reincarnation thing requires more people than there are, like if you are reborn an animal that means there should be one less human otherwise life is created outside of the loop making the whole system even more weird
Jews killed their own God quite literally...
Muslims are just a poor copypasta of the the Bible, also the worst prophet..fucking pedo
>And also atheist.
Naive fools that are too much in techno bs

>Do you believe in an after life?
No.
>Do you realise what you believe in does not change the reality of whether one exist or not?
Stop talking nonsense
>Does the possibility of going to hell scare you?
No. I do not believe in an afterlife. I've lived an honest life so far. If that doesn't matter, and not worshipping a god earns me a ticket to hell anyway, then that god is evil.
>Are you a good person that will go to heaven?
No
>Are you evil?
No
>Thoughts on each Buddhist, Christians Hindus, Jews, Muslims ect. after life and where you fit in.
It's all one big coping mechanism
>And also atheist.
When we die, it's game over. No epilogue, no do over. Trillions of humans over the centuries have died. Not a single one has come back, not a single one has gotten a message back from an afterlife. All of them have not come back and have just lied in the ground. It's not depressing, just make sure you do right by the one life you have.

>What if your consciousness resides in the cloud/elsewhere and the body is just one interface through which the body experiences this realm.

"What if this, what if that, what if universe was made 3 mins ago" Extraordinary claims with No evidence.
There are millions of possibilities and I don't have to consider all of them unless you give some proof supporting you hypothesis.

Just because you phrase the question as "god or no god" doesn't mean it's a 50/50 chance. The chances of there being a god is so minuscule, and tack on the chance that it's the god YOU BELIEVE IN, then tack on that the god is even a good being... Man, you've got like a 1/50000000000000000 chance that what you want is how it will be when you die.

Prof? Look at all creation the complexity of life and perfect balance of earth that allows it to survive.
Can something make it self?
Can matter sporn form notting?
Can life form from hot water and X amount of year?
All of creation is proof of a creator.

we are part of one, infinity, god, whatever you want to call it.. fallen back to beginning in the cycle, into low life material density. (((they))) keep us bound to matter through various ways, because (((they)) worship matter and hate higher. Earth is in long cycle with stars of Sirius and as we get closer those through ages, we should evolve into higher, spiritual beings. This is why (((they)) need to bind us more extreme ways as time goes by, so we wouldn't not be liberated. So we would not remember.

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>There is no need to prove a negative, ie, that there is no afterlife.
False it is a positive from the standpoint of an atheist also the need to prove disapprove differs from one house of thought to another
>There's as much evidence to support your belief of an afterlife as there is supporting a scientologist's belief that a trillion years ago space aliens poured all the souls of the world into volcanoes, that is, none.
Questions of existence are hard to answer even science is lost at it thats why we have philosophy
Pascal argues that a rational person should live as though God exists and seek to believe in God. If God does not actually exist, such a person will have only a finite loss (some pleasures, luxury, etc.), whereas he stands to receive infinite gains (as represented by eternity in Heaven) and avoid infinite losses (eternity in Hell).[2]
However I would say our own existence and existence of all that around us is in itself an indirect proof of God

So the creator needs to have a creator too? An omnipotent, omniscient, omnibenevolent creator of the universe should be much more complex than us.
>Can life form from hot water and X amount of year?

Do you really think we believe that life came from just hot water?

Basically, you're fucked...

Enjoy tho.

This. I dont go to church. I used to when I was little but can't stand going now. I have a wife and kids and my wife always wants me to go with them every sunday (I never do). The only thing that ever worries me about death/afterlife is not being able to see my wife or kids (or even my parents, brothers, or my friends) ever again. I find no comfort in believing when I die it will be nothingness. Life is too complex for it to have just happened by chance.

We're all fucked, faggot. Only question is if you'll punch out on your feet, or on your knees.

>Pascal argues that a rational person should live as though God exists and seek to believe in God. If God does not actually exist, such a person will have only a finite loss (some pleasures, luxury, etc.), whereas he stands to receive infinite gains (as represented by eternity in Heaven) and avoid infinite losses (eternity in Hell).

And? Pascal was an Idiot who did not even considered other religions. I tell you that you should not go outside tomorrow because you will die and if you stay inside you will get a million dollar.
Will you as a rational person just follow my word because you ultimately do not have anything to lose and a lot to gain?

>However I would say our own existence and existence of all that around us is in itself an indirect proof of God

"Existence of anything is evidence of an creator"

>life is too complex for it to have just happened by chance

What are you comparing life to in order to call it complex? For all we know, life could be incredibly simple. We make it complex. We CALL it complex to give it some kind of meaning. Star formation seems like it would be complex but we have a strong grasp on how that works. You feel love and that's ok, but it doesn't mean it's complex.

Life is complex but God isn't.

Is there another planet that can sustain life? How is it that we live here on this specific planet? What's more believable, we were created in a specific manner to survive on Earth or that we evolved over millions of years from tiny cells? There's nothing simple about it.

>Humans can Live to Beyond Age 500 . One has to make simple efforts to go there. Start with breathing two times per minute.

>Simple effort

You know for something that's such a simple effort, it's weird that out of the 8 billion people alive, not one of them is confirmed to be over 120 years old.

There could be billions of planets that can and do sustain life. Assuming there is no life anywhere else in the universe is akin to dipping a shot glass in the ocean and saying Nope, nothing in here, no life in the ocean at all. There may very well be no life out there, but that is just an assumption based on evidence in our close vicinity.

>Is there another planet that can sustain life?

Most probably. The universe is too big.

>How is it that we live here on this specific planet?

"Why do I have these specific parents?"
Because you were born here and could not be born out of a monkey or in another planet?

>we evolved over millions of years from tiny cells

Our body is a very bad creation if it is one with a lot of useless body parts and a lot of bad ineffective design.

>Do you believe in an after life?

I do, but I also recognize that it's impossible for us to know, and therefore not wholly unlikely that there really is nothing after and it's all a sham. But that's where my faith and hope come in

>Do you realise what you believe in does not change the reality of whether one exist or not?

Yes. That said, I've often wondered if C. S. Lewis had it right - that one's afterlife is singularly determined by what they believe in. Heaven for the Christians, Valhalla for the Vikings, Reincarnation for the Easterers, and the void for the atheists. Food for thought.

>Does the possibility of going to hell scare you?

A little, but my main sins have been vulgarity and masturbation. While I'm trying to do better than that, I have a hunch that hell is reserved for truly evil souls with no hopes of redemption.

>Are you a good person that will go to heaven?

I'd like to believe so, but I would first go through the agony of purgatory, which is just hell with a way out. However, I'm also a fan of the "heaven on earth" theory, in which good souls get reincarnated into good places with more good souls and evil souls get banished to more evil-infested places.

>Are you evil?

No, I do not believe so. Murdering and corrupting the innocent is evil, and I try and abstain from those activities as much as humanly possible.

>Thoughts on each Buddhist, Christians Hindus, Jews, Muslims ect. after life and where you fit in.

I like the traditional Christian Heaven/Hell dichotomy, but I'm also open to aspects of reincarnation, such as the "heaven on earth" theory. In any case, I definitely believe that the universe has a more powerful force (what we understand as "God", imo provable by the sheer existence of life at all) and that, worst case scenario (the absence of conscious afterlife), we become reincarnated with the plants, animals and maybe even as humans again someday, least until we all return to dust and flame.

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There has been those that have been confirmed to have lived over 120 years.

>wanting to live FIVE HUNDRED years on this gay ass planet

Looking forward to finding out. What a shit hole plant this is.

I share your perspective on the infinite complexity and simple beauty of life, and most of the universe in general, but it does not serve as evidence of a creator:

Creator => Universe
You can't support the existence of something evidenced by the existence of an item that came from the first thing. Just as you can't use a pie to prove the existence of a pie tree; you know how pies are made, sure, but with only the object and not its progenitor you can't possibly know for certain what its origin is, but you can certainly speculate. A creator, a God, is only one (and by far the most popular) hypotheses about how the universe came into being.

>False it is a positive from the standpoint of an atheist also the need to prove disapprove differs from one house of thought to another
I really hope you're underaged, because such a stupid statement shouldn't be coming from anyone over the age of 15. There is such a thing as objective truth, and it doesn't care whose perspective it's being considered from. I say that there's no air in space, and that's a negative statement, no matter the observer's perspective.

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