Why is electoral college constitutional? It should be popular vote

Why is electoral college constitutional? It should be popular vote.

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Its literally fascism guys choosing who wins despite popular vote

Because then the entire country's future is decided by 3 big cities and at that point, what reason does the rest of the country have to listen to you at all if they have no say?

Removing EC is greedy, stupid and evil in that order and your total narcissism prevents you from seeing that you are all 3.

On the other hand, I support you doing it because I'd love to see your country violently balkanize.

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link to study?

What incentive do smaller states have to remain in the Union?

They'll get rekt like dixie.

Yeah, presidents could just ignore everyone except for some city people. It would probably be more extreme than mainly focussing on swing states like Trump did.

The Union would fuck them if they try to leave
this, the USA is a federal republic not a single unified state

STATES RIGHTS. Do you retards even think before you post? The entire reason it's still around is, it gives each state a fair weight when choosing the president. Abolishing it means every state is now run by it's biggest city, as well as you may as well erase half the states in the country, since they will only make a marginal difference

>popular vote
Fuck off california and new york

>It should be popular vote.
>Because I'm way smarter than the Founding Fathers.
Kill yourself.

let make it an even $100T

make the checke payable to:
US of A

we do accept checkes from the bank of rothschild

>The Union would fuck them if they try to leave

The outrage from this "big guy fucking up little guy" imagery would be enough to accelerate things already. I welcome this idiocy.

They're 3 cities.......isolated from each other.....surrounded by red counties.

It won't be this brilliant clashing of armies or drones blowing up guerrillas, it will be power supplies being sabotaged, water lines being sabotaged, roads being attacked by guerillas and cities ripping themselves apart when they start to starve.

>"yeah well we have the armed forces!"
they might say

Because these dumb cunts never study history. Ever. Easiest giveaway is them citing shit Hitler did saying it's bad.....but they want to do the same shit to those they don't like.

Armed forces *always* split in civil war. Remember Turkey recently? One of the many reasons that died in the ass was because the big cheese organizing it went before a group of officers sand said "we're taking over" and a junior officer decided he didn't want to shoot the people, so he just pulled out his sidearm and shot the big cheese dead right there and died in a hail of gunfire but he didn't give a fuck.

Soldiers and support staff have a lot of families in these red alreas, they're not going to accept orders to kill their neighbours and if you try and be all soviet about it and send guys from different areas to kill people from different areas (less attachment), they'll still resent it and hate it.

Don't even get me started on the reaction of the rest of the world.

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My money is on the electrol college folding and the popular vote becoming the norm. The democrats are going to push hard to stop a trump like figure ever getting elected again. They will achieve it by stripping the states of rights and centralising power in the fed. Democrat states have already approved the popular vote and given up their electoral college votes.

kill yourself.

The nation wont balkanise. It will solidify as rome dod when it went from republic to empire.

>why would States in a republic want to select their leader?
Gee, I don't know, retard.
It surely makes no sense at all.

>You'd need a 100% tax rate on every household earning $30k or more to get enough for the banksters to keep getting rich doing nothing and the corporates friends to keep being subsidized and for all that fiscal evasion to continue untouched
good point

Who cares? Abolish the EC and we get our war. No reason to shill against them. Let them do it. I want them to do it.

Dream on.
Rome's system was very different and even in that Senators just whacked the boss when they didn't get what they wanted....or the praetorian.

We can't even find 5 billion in our budget for a border wall. 93 trillion huh?

>a study
Oh is that right. Thanks for linking it. You don’t need to lie to show how retarded her policies are.

>Why is electoral college constitutional? It should be popular vote.

babby's first political analysis

Despite the federal government continually usurps power it was never given, we are still a union of states. If you want to have a popular vote for your president, do so by all means, but not all states will want to be in the union under those conditions.

>On the other hand, I support you doing it because I'd love to see your country violently balkanize.
I want civil war 2: electric boogaloo. America is dead and once Texas or Florida flips blue due to demographics the dems are going to win forever anyways. Lets just get this party started already

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Imagine you live in Alaska, and what you wear on a daily basis is going to be decided by a national popular vote of what everyone will wear. There are far more people in California and Florida, and those places sway the popular vote. Now, in the dead of the Alaskan winter, you have to attempt to function while wearing shorts and a t-shirt. That's pretty fucking stupid, now isn't it?

Apply this to politics and you will understand why it's a stupid idea to let a very basic plurality decide the fate of areas of the nation which, while less populated, may be incredibly important. We don't have as many farmers as we do people working in grocery stores in large cities. If those people working in grocery stores support some idiotic idea that subjects the farmers to stupidity which makes them insolvent, those city workers won't exactly have a lot of food to sell, will they?

All the gdp of the billionaire combined dont even make that much bro. Pls kys

Dum dums could just split their mega states in two and dominate evey and each future election

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i find it odd we as a country with 1/5 the population spend about 5 billion USD a year on the BBC but the USA can't afford it for a border wall.

City people are human garbage, their opinions should be discounted.

Geographical occupation is what defines countries.

is the electoral college really any different in concept than assigning different weights to an individual's vote based on cock size?

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fake and gay

Because two or three states full of open borders election fraudsters can't rule over wypeople in overfly country.

This desu. The whole idea is if NYC, LA, etc. love universal health care, green energy, etc. they can pass laws for that shit at the local or state level. There's no need to push your policies on large swathes of the country that don't want it. Like it or not, this is the way our constitution and system of government was designed.

But of course nobody on the left ever wants to do this, because there are actually limits on how much money governments can spend at those levels. Whereas the federal government has nearly unlimited borrowing power, so they can actually push all this legislation without having to tax the ever loving shit out of their constituents to pay for it.

The electoral college is literally the only thing that is constitutional about the current government. Take it away and America ceases to be a republic or have a constitution.

We are a republic not a democracy

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Good way to have your food go up in flames, and a 4th generation war spring up. Have you guys not seen enough history to know you tend not to subjugate the people in chsrge of agriculture?

yo she's getting so stressed, you wear it like shit you pair of ass and tits

The only thing more dumb than people thinking that you could generate the taxes to pay for this is thinking you could implement a 100% tax rate and that people would continue to work.

People immediately skip over the later to debate the former, as if it was even possible. Not going to happen

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Donors do not want a wall, it is not about money.

The people doing agriculture are the ones demanding immigration.

>The Union would fuck them if they try to leave
And that is the moment the US ceases to exist as anything we recognise. Hundreds of countries that are just waiting for the world's only Super-Power to fall will suddenly become actors in what would be called "The War Against Tyranny". Those actors would engage in all forms of warfare you can imagine and the US (hilariously bad at asynchronous warfare) would suddenly find itself in a war of attrition that stretches across more fronts than we can imagine
From there the writing is on the wall and the Union can in no way survive.

But they dont exactly appreciate the gibs going to immigrants and cities, it takes up all those sweet corn subsidies.

>world vs. Collapsing US

the US is the enemy of anything good in the world so it's only fitting. Honestly, good riddance.

>All the gdp of the billionaire combined dont even make that much bro.
you're just retarded buddy i didn even talk about any billionaire protect your master as much as you want i'm free already

>You'd need a 100% tax rate on every household...
>Why not tax corporations instead?
>Uh, because ₪...

>Why is electoral college constitutional?
Read article 2 section 1 and the 12th amendment.
How can something that is in the constitution be unconstitutional?

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This squared

>Why is electoral college constitutional?

Because it’s written into the Constitution. Are you clinically stupid, or just very young?

>You DNA decides what your cock size is.
>Anyone can move to whatever state they want.
Idiot.

Tyranny of the masses you retard.

>The Union would fuck them if they try to leave
So they would be hostages. Good one.

>It should be popular vote.
Instant. Civil. War.
That's a hard line for to many Americans and it would fracture the country either way. The interior states will absolutely not put up with LA, Chicongo and NYC dictating policy for the other 300 million of us.
>AOC
Idiotic joke.

Because you’re either a spic or a nigger

These idiots hate the Constitution (esp Amendments 1 & 2) then wave it with content they literally make up.

What do NYC and LA know about what is happening in the rest of the country. There is a reason for the electoral college. Without it there would be no point for midwestern states to be part of the union.

Lol. Math hurts you right?

Taxing 100% corporations wont even make 93T tho. But it will make corporations move else where buddy

Based Republicans believe in MMT too

>Lol
you're a kid no wonder you don't understand who enslave you

>Bankers and corporations
>Didn't talk about any billionaires
Oh so you were talking about millionaires then? Their gdp combined with billionaires gdp combined with peasants 30k gpd wont even make this much. So try again leaf faggot

Yes especially when the billionates corps push so much for a liberal agenda. Hbo and netflix pushing a ten million dollar documentary on AOC and beto. They must be with the republicans protecting billionaires no? If the republicans are the ones that subsidized them? We are playing 4d chess here mate you are playing checkers

you don't make sense buddy
if the market is the US they can't fucking leave the US
>Oh so you were talking about millionaires then?
ho so you thinkgs bankster fortune are listed ?
naive idiot
i never suggested to take billionaire moneys though just ending the fed reforming the bank system and to make law to stop insider trading and money manipulation
stopping usury would be enough but you guys live in an imagined universe where all the riches elites deserve to be there from hard work
ya someday you'll understand the left and the right is all just a show to divide the plebes and prevent them from uprising
they play both side
it's not chess it's enforced duality

>not letting electors ignore popular vote
Might as well fuck over the founders intent even more

Except the market will be shit and nobody can buy crap. Because no producers because no incentives. Get it now? Maybe some producers. But only the super rich which can stand the outstanding tax rates. Making income inequality even worse.

>Because then the entire country's future is decided by 3 big cities
Which are full of easily influenced NPCs. So really it's more like the entire country's future is decided by the owners of the media.

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Okay explain why they dont deserve their money. It will be fun

>Faggot still doesn't understand what a Republic is

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>if the market is the US they can't fucking leave the US
Not necessarily true, and especially not for Big Tech.
>servers and electricity don't exist in other countries
However there's no reason to let them hold the economy hostage. Call their bluff and let's see who has the biggest swinging dick after we round up some of these guys, put them under surveillance, and burn their passports.

Oooh the woke centrist illuminati guy spoke. Both sides are shit bruh im the one who knows more than everyone broo.

$30k+ would include all the bankers and CEOs as well, innumerate mongoloid.

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>only slavery work goy do you not understand
>if the goyim is not enslaved by money and greed he can't be motivated
explain why the daughter of Clinton could spend more in a weekend without working 1 day in her life than your whole family and descendants will win in their whole working life
TOGETHER
>Not necessarily true, and especially not for Big Tech.
why so ? prevent them from selling their cheaps chinese crap on the US market problem solved
>However there's no reason to let them hold the economy hostage. Call their bluff and let's see who has the biggest swinging dick after we round up some of these guys, put them under surveillance, and burn their passports.
i'm kinda ok with your plan
>buzzword
>buzzword
>fall for my d&d strategy or else
>$30k+ would include all the bankers and CEOs as well, innumerate mongoloid.
how so retard they already don't pay shit with fiscal evasion

Do not lose hope, friend. The US Empire - like the British before it - is an abomination that is built on the backs of working men by jews.
History shows us that they are due exiling soon. Given the amount of anti-semitism laws they are enshrining, they realise it too.

Taking 100% from everyone who makes more than $30k is obviously a hypothetical, so in this hypothetical they wouldn't be able to evade, illustrating that there is not enough money to pay for that shit. But you're going to miss the point and bitch about the rich some more instead.

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>Taking 100% from everyone who makes more than $30k is obviously a hypothetical,
it's obviously a bait for low intellect plebeians retard
thats pointing left when the problem come from behind

I doubt it. The rot is just too bad at this point.

When the Boomers are dead things are going to heat up because they are the last generation with any commonality or desire to make peace. About that Mexicans will finally devour California and Texas. There isn't going to be any will to stay together.

You get rid of the electoral vote we will start civil war. I live in a blue state I'll be doing some nasty double agent work for the red States.

I could easily destroy the power grid of my area if my state ever decided to destroy the Constitution.

The only way that it would be acceptable would be if the states each voted whether or not they would want to remain in the union if those were the rules. All who found it unacceptable could just become their own independent nations. No reason that the US needs to stay united. Europe has about 30 nations in a landmass smaller than the US.

They know god damn well what they are doing. Democrats and rinos are fucking traitors.

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Tucker's book talked about this. How it went from "Republicans are bad because they're exploiting illegal poorfags at factory farms" to "omg let them all in" within a period of about 4 or 5 years. They made nice with the corporate overlords and have colluded (lol) with Republicans on this in a good cop/bad cop game with the American people.

The funniest thing is him recounting Cesar Chavez' story and how today's Democrats are shitting on the principles of their ancestors re: unionized labor and everybody's lapping it up.

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>$93 trillion
Isn't that meaningless with the advent of MMT?

The popular vote is rigged. (in some states.) The Electoral College limits the effectiveness of said vote rigging.

If we went to a nationwide popular vote, we would literally become a one party system.

>Why is electoral college constitutional?
Because it's in the Constitution

>Why is electoral college constitutional?
Everything about the US Constitution is about the balance of power: The checks and balances ensure that no one branch gains too much power over the others. The procedures for passing laws and amending the Constitution ensure nothing gets done unless you get basically everybody on board with something. And the Electoral College ensures that no one region or state or type of voter gains too much influence in the electoral process.

Voters in large cities are generally all affected by the same political issues, social needs, and economic priorities, and as a result voting trends in these cities is extremely homogeneous, with candidates and issues usually being decided by votes as high as 70, 80, even 90%, while votes in surrounding cities and rural areas tend to be far more evenly split and may vary substantially from town to town and county to county. Large cities (100K+) only represent 30% of the American population, but their voting homogeneity throws the entire electoral process out of whack in a pure popular vote.