I'm starting to think socialism might not be all that bad. Can someone remind me again on why its such a shitty concept?

I'm starting to think socialism might not be all that bad. Can someone remind me again on why its such a shitty concept?

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The only people that preach each according to their abilities and each according to their needs have no abilities and the only thing they need is a bullet in their skull

At the beginning you will lost everything you have. Than you will work hard just to have Enough to eat, if you are lucky.

NZ and Australia are socialist and they're fine. Japan is a socialist ethno state and its magical. Canada is socialist and okay, has a lot of problems, but that is not to do with it's socialism but it's culture. Britain is partially socialist and for the most part those policies work absolutely fine, again, the things which make England a third world shit hole are cultural and surround immigration policy, not the socialist policies which help protect its native citizens.

"socialism bad" is high school burnout redneck American meme, the truth is that socialism is fine if your country and its people aren't human garbage. But that is why it may not really work especially well with American culture. Your people are too brainwashed by the state and the oligarchy to communicate or act like humans anymore, so it may never be possible for the US to do anything worthwhile again for its citizens.

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Canada is NOT ok, gone to shit in the last 20 years!

Because we have yet to devise a socialist system where the filth don't have access to all of the state power and subsequently use it to create a dictatorship

here you go read stalins introduction to dialectical materialism
read this and you will know more about socialism than every single person on Jow Forums
marxists.org/reference/archive/stalin/works/1938/09.htm

NZ is fucked, full of chinks and indians and housing under intense pressure wtf are you on about?

>I'm starting to think socialism might not be all that bad. Can someone remind me again on why its such a shitty concept?
Marxist Socialism is Jewish and therefore anti-White.

>here you go read stalins introduction to dialectical materialism
>read this and you will know more about socialism than every single person on Jow Forums
Speaking of Stalin from that website...

Antisemitism

marxists.org/reference/archive/stalin/works/1931/01/12.htm

In answer to your inquiry :

National and racial chauvinism is a vestige of the misanthropic customs characteristic of the period of cannibalism. Anti-semitism, as an extreme form of racial chauvinism, is the most dangerous vestige of cannibalism.

Anti-semitism is of advantage to the exploiters as a lightning conductor that deflects the blows aimed by the working people at capitalism. Anti-semitism is dangerous for the working people as being a false path that leads them off the right road and lands them in the jungle. Hence Communists, as consistent internationalists, cannot but be irreconcilable, sworn enemies of anti-semitism.

In the U.S.S.R. anti-semitism is punishable with the utmost severity of the law as a phenomenon deeply hostile to the Soviet system. Under U.S.S.R. law active anti-semites are liable to the death penalty.

J. Stalin
January 12, 1931
First published in the newspaper Pravda, No. 329, November 30, 1936

>hitler using some bullshit to distract people form the class struggle
>stalin nipping it in the bud
based steelman

this is the direct equivalent of him saying being anti-white is punishable by death in modern america

identity politics have no place in a socialist society, they are capitalist distractions.

>>hitler using some bullshit to distract people form the class struggle
You mean the fact that society is a racial construct and that the Jews really are behind everything bad being done to White people?

>>stalin nipping it in the bud
>based steelman
So you admit that Communism is Jewish and therefore anti-White?

>this is the direct equivalent of him saying being anti-white is punishable by death in modern america
Anti-Whiteness should be punishable by death. But Stalin was protecting the anti-White Jews. Because Communism is Jewish.

>identity politics have no place in a socialist society,
You can't help but prove you're anti-White when you utter statements like those.

>they are capitalist distractions.
Capitalism is just as Jewish and anti-White as Communism.

Next you'll be telling us that Marx, Lenin and Trotsky weren't Jews.

>all excess power and wealth will be divided equally among all
>but first you must give it all to us
>we will give it back
>promise

Read Cockshott

food>equality

Good quote. That should put a stop to the "stalin was secretly based" nonsense.

>Good quote. That should put a stop to the "stalin was secretly based" nonsense.
Stalin fucked a Jewess, was surrounded by Jews, made antisemitism a crime punishable by death (as I posted) and of course was a Judeo Communist.

He was indeed not "based" as the commies claim.

The abolition of classes means placing all citizens on an equal footing with regard to the means of production belonging to society as a whole. It means giving all citizens equal opportunities of working on the publicly-owned means of production, on the publicly-owned land, at the publicly-owned factories, and so forth.

This explanation of socialism has been necessary to enlighten our learned liberal professor, Mr. Tugan, who may, if he tries hard, now grasp the fact that it is absurd to expect equality of strength and abilities in socialist society.

In brief, when socialists speak of equality they always mean social equality, equality of social status, and not by any means the physical and mental equality of individuals.

V. I. Lenin

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all identity politics are a threat to the class struggle, hitler blaming jews is an exact copy of liberals blaming white people today.

>secretly
great comrade cyberstalin is the most overtly based person of all times

>all identity politics are a threat to the class struggle,
Yes, you claim that because you want to destroy the true basis for civilization. Race. And you want to destroy race because Communism is Jewish.

>hitler blaming jews
Hitler blamed Jews because the Jews are at fault. He was not lying.

> is an exact copy of liberals blaming white people today.

>is an exact copy of liberals blaming white people today.
Liberals blame White people because Liberals are anti-White and pseudo Communist.

>great comrade cyberstalin is the most overtly based person of all times
How can someone who fucks a Jew be based?

>V. I. Lenin
Why would we listen to the lies of a kike that wants to exterminate the White race?

The UK is falling apart slowly but surely because socialism is unsustainable because the doors and services are open to the whole world, now National Socialism could of worked because services, social housing welfare is all exclusively for the people of the nation or race and therefore can be sustained.

>Marx, Lenin and Trotsky weren't Jews.
>Marx
Atheist but culturally Lutheran to the point of being antisemitic
>Lenin
Some weirdass quarter chink
>Trotsky
Yep Jewish [pic related]

Fuggin pic fug

Capitalism gets you might want under Socialism, better and faster than Socialism will.

All successful "socialist" countries operate with a capitalistic free market economy.

The rest are autocratic shitholes that live on the razor's edge of a commodity-based income.

One last try of pic with icepicj

If resources need to be distributed centrally, then there has to be some sort of institution which has the power to do that. That institution would be prone to bureaucracy and corruption. At least in a market economy, if one institution fails to deliver an essential need to the public, then the whole system doesn't crumble.

>Atheist but culturally Lutheran to the point of being antisemitic
Jews are of course a race. I do not listen to what a Jew says I look to what a Jew does. Communism in its creation, implementation and beliefs are Jewish.

>Some weirdass quarter chink
ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-4073133,00.html

>Yep Jewish
And you're fine with Jews residing in White nations. Which makes you anti-White.

>One last try of pic with icepicj
You're such a newfag shill you don't even know how to attach pics to your post.

>remind me again on why its such a shitty concept?
Socialism goes against nature; it's the people that should have been culled through survival of the fittest using the power of the collective to get what they want. Socialism is that bossy kid from grade school that always wanted the power of being in charge of passing things out to the class.

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direct computerized planned democracy read cockshott

Socialism = National Socialism

Someone will be in charge of maintaining and managing that computer, as well as the network it runs on. I don't trust them with my family's future.

>Socialism goes against nature;
That's why it has to be increasingly evil and tyrannical as it attempts to eliminate human nature.

It wants to turn the people into soulless worker automatons by destroying race, family, gender, history, heritage, culture tradition and faith.

That has nothing to do with socialism and everything to do with the poor immigration policy that the ring wing let spiral out of control to protect their own financial interests.

Immigration has nothing to do with socialism.

Marxist Socialists care nothing for racial homelands or the existence of race. They're perfectly fine with flooding White nations with millions of non-Whites under the guise of "equality" and "fairness."

>Socialism goes against nature
false, it is a natural biological instinct to band together to create community and care for those who require it

this can be seen in every native people

darwinism doesn't preclude this

Sure some subset of socialism promotes this. You cant conflate one a subset of data with all of the data, it is intellectually disingenuous at best and outright lying at worst.

Socialism is preferable to neoliberalism, but still inferior to fascism. You don't need to destroy the market entirely to ensure a good life for the people, in fact, you'll make things worse. Socialism is inefficient, and leads to stagnation.

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>it is a natural biological instinct to band together to create community and care for those who require it
You cannot deny nature when doing such a thing. Marxist Socialism does deny nature.

>this can be seen in every native people
Who are all subhuman and never accomplished anything. Why else were they all stone age people when Whites found them and revert back to stone age people when Whites leave them alone?

Whites advanced because of their race and their desires for advancement.

Seriously, read "it's a wonderful race"

tomatobubble.com/wonderfulrace1.html

It allows the weak to breed and thrive.

Sage

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>Sure some subset of socialism promotes this.
All of Marxist Socialism promotes this.
They ignore racial reality for the delusion of class warfare.
They actually claim that niggers are equal to Whites and that the only reason niggers fail as opposed to Whites is due to "capitalist/white oppression."

(you)

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>He uses many documents, among them a 600-page study based on county records in one of the worst-hit provinces, Anhui. The document was intended only for circulation among senior Chinese officials but was smuggled out of the country after the Tiananmen Square demonstrations of 1989. It reports, among many other things, that in the single county of Fengyang, all the inhabitants of 21 villages died. It also records 63 cases of cannibalism.

>Mr. Becker supplements the documentary record with numerous interviews, especially of peasants living in the areas where the famine took place. Where he is clear about his source and names it -- as he does, for example, with that People's Daily admonition -- his book is an astonishing chronicle both of human folly and evil.
Yay Socialisim!

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It's shitty because you have to share and don't get to participate in the exciting rat race.

norway population vs 300 million american population.... nice try fagot

Socialism fails because you can't use your young working people to pay for medical care and social security AND expect them to also provide for and make a family. So what happens is, to keep paying for the sick and elderly, you must import workers from somewhere else to fill the steadily declining population.
Socialism ALWAYS ends like this. It's nothing but a scam to make people feel better temporarily.
Young workers CANNOT PAY for themselves and their families AND pay for the sick and elderly.

PS: elderly people are EXTREMELY EXPENSIVE

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There are more people in Minnesota than there are in Norway kek

How many spics and niggers live in those countries compared to America? That image can work on reddit, but not here

>Marxist Socialism does deny nature.
Wrong, entropy is a law of physics, and therefore also biology. Our genetic and cultural differences will lessen over time as differing "races" interbreed and dilute the degree of differentials until there are no differentials. Our species will homogenize whether it occurs in 100 years or 100,000,000 years; either measure of time is a drop in the bucket of eternity.

That is why conservatives are mentally ill, they believe they can defy the laws of space-time and literally pause time and evolution and retain the same point in time in evolutionary biology. You cannot time travel. Everything decays; change is a constant whether it is relatively fast or slow.

>All of Marxist Socialism promotes this.
OP didn't mention Marxist Socialism, he only referred to "socialism".

Maaate, I bet you're so new you haven't even watched Legend of Galactic Heroes
ps. Marx and Lenin are less Jewish than Hitler or Trump's grandkids

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Wow, sounds like we should get rid of those spics and niggers then.

>Our genetic and cultural differences will lessen over time as differing "races" interbreed and dilute the degree of differentials until there are no differentials.
What you're really saying is that White people must blend out of existence with non-White people. That's why you're anti-White.

Even though Whites evolved/were created by God naturally.

And racial segregation is natural. Until the kikes unnaturally changed that via globalism/cultural marxism.

>Our species will homogenize whether it occurs in 100 years or 100,000,000 years; either measure of time is a drop in the bucket of eternity.
Blend shit and milk in a blender. Tell me it's a milkshake as you drink it.

>That is why conservatives are mentally ill,
I'm not a Conservative. Conservatives are just as anti-White as Liberals. They only want to conserve their money.

>OP didn't mention Marxist Socialism, he only referred to "socialism".
We all know that OP is referring to Marxist Socialism. He certainly wasn't referring to National Socialism.

>ps. Marx and Lenin are less Jewish than Hitler or Trump's grandkids
As far as we know, Hitler never had children. (I hope he did in Argentina with his wife though) Besides, Hitler wasn't a Jew. That's another lie.

Most of Trump's grandchildren are Jewish but that's because Trump isn't pro-White.

Read Carl Jung

It isn't if its used correctly.

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>Can someone remind me again on why its such a shitty concept?
Why do go get a fucking job, cash your paycheck, then cash it and give to a fucking homeless drug addict. That is socialism, there is some bullshit about workers owning production, which just means government elites instead or business elites are in control of business, not that you get a cut of the profits, remember from each according to ability (you, working) to each according to need (unemployed homeless drug addict).

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Bro what are you on lol

No one mentioned Venezuela? Really?

>Trump isn't pro-White.
When did he tell you that?

>band together to create community
That's literally not what Socialism is. Socialism always fails because it relies on human's being benevolent, which goes against nature because humans are not. That is why historically the greediest, evilest, most worthless fucks ALWAYS worm their way to power under Socialism and destroy everything.

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>When did he tell you that?
When he worshiped Satan at the wailing wall. Again, I don't listen to his words, I look to his actions.

>That is why historically the greediest, evilest, most worthless fucks
aka Jews.

I'm from NZ and we are not fucking full on socialist, shut the fuck up.

>>hitler using some bullshit to distract people form the class struggle
You aren't about the working classes you disingenuous shit head you just want to exploit them to grab power and mone, morey like a white trash Black Lives Matter movement amirite?

Oh it's a lie, why am I not surprised?

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Socialism is bad, but the concept of having some social systems isnt the worse in a relative small country like NZ.

>Hitler wasn't a Jew. That's another lie.
Here have a redpill
findagrave.com/memorial/12235967/maria-anna-hitler
>born schicklgruber
That's literally shekel grubber in German m8

>I'm from NZ and we are not fucking full on socialist, shut the fuck up.
Socialists love to claim that any government or social program that they believe "works" is "Socialism."

That way, when you state that you hate Socialism, they can say "oh you want to get rid of x, y or z? you're evil!"

>205155627(OP)
>NZ and Australia are socialist and they're fine. Japan is a socialist ethno state and its magical. Canada is socialist and okay, has a lot of problems, but that is not to do with it's socialism but
Oh shut the fuck up you fucking retard none of those countries are socialist, what the fuck you just live in some fantasy you made up in your head.

Simple. History proves time and time again that it doesn't work. Not that difficult.

>let me just post this sourceless image that proves nothing.
This explains why Commies are so fucking stupid. They actually believe shit like this.

>Oh it's a lie, why am I not surprised?
I'd also show his pardoning of a kike rabbi, moving the embassy to Jerusalem, giving Israel billions, bowing before AIPAC, etc.

That also assumes someone is ok with trading their abilities for next to nothing. Even most people with abilities would just choose to take the government house and pension and not have to work at all.

>implying almost everyone who posts on Jow Forums is a commie

It needs to be preceded by the word "national"

Oh that will finally make it work. How about removing Jews from the equation and their nepotism. The failure of socialism is that, it eventually just turns into a nepotistic neo monarchy.

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European social democracy works fine and provides for first world living standards.

American liberal democracy works fine and provides for first world living standards.

What's the common theme? White people.

>>implying almost everyone who posts on Jow Forums is a commie
Nah, they're mostly cuckservatives though the number of commies has increased since Trump.

What's sad is that this kinda shit actually works on you.

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How do you not know the economic system of your own country lmfao

You can't fucking afford it, end of.

Grow up and get a job faggot