Hello Jow Forums, I am from the Church of the Spirit. The spirit of the fear of God. We are a small Church committed to the abolition of the poor slave class in capitalist countries. We are spreading God's Word throughout the internet. I wanted to bring up a few verses from the Bible:
Acts 4:32–35 which reads: "All the believers were one in heart and mind. No one claimed that any of their possessions was their own, but they shared everything they had. With great power the apostles continued to testify to the resurrection of the Lord Jesus Christ. And God's grace was so powerfully at work in them all that there were no needy persons among them. For from time to time those who owned land or houses sold them, brought the money from the sales and put it at the apostles' feet, and it was distributed to anyone who had need".
Matthew 6:24 states: "No one can serve two masters. Either you will hate the one and love the other or you will be devoted to the one and despise the other. You cannot serve both God and money."
In short capitalism is a sin which forces one part of God's Creation "man" to be a slave to an idol "ruler". The Spirit of God is then killed in both.
Once the Earth becomes a Common Treasury again, as it must, for all the Prophesies of Scriptures promises it will. The Law of God's Righteousness will be written on every heart, and everyone will be made of God's heart and his Word.
we know, user. very few people on Jow Forums support Capitalism. This is a Christian board and always has been. The spirit of Christ and his teachings runs deep.
Also fuck this new trend of lefties and commies who literally serve Satan or are clear-out atheists pretending to be Christians and warping the teachings of the bible to fit their literally evil, secular or satanic agenda.
Xavier Phillips
Thank you for participating :)
I hope your week is starting off good. Yes, capitalism is explicitly condemned in the Bible. It holds the Earth in bondage to men, and is blasphemy to our Christ's Righteous Law of meekness. God never intended for man to hold Honor, Dominion and Riches one over another.
Genesis 1:27-30
Hudson Watson
I mean if theft is a sin, then the bible and Jesus Christ are implicitly recognizing the validity of private property and therefore capitalism.
So no. Factually no. You are factually BTFO, you fucking dark Satanic manipulator.
INB4 "personal property" Nope. Factually wrong too. Theft referred to the stealing of "private property" in Jesus' time. Not merely "personal property" (which isn't even a real thing, just some commie gobblygook). Christ decried theft of private property, so he implicitly supported capitalism.
So yeah. No. Factually disproven. Your entire faggot post is completely destroyed.
Fuck off back to Satan now, you dumb little commie homosexual.
Matthew Adams
No. Christ condemned the theft of private property LMAO. What are you talking about? The bible is exceptionally clear that theft is wrong, and the historical context would be the theft of private property.
This means Jesus = Capitalist.
Sorry faggot. Its indisputable.
Samuel Russell
i agree with jesus theft is bad AND not very christian of you
Jose Hill
Pasalm 69: you shall not have private property else feels my wrath in the form of a cheese chopper don't be a robber else you gon get the coppers
Jaxson Barnes
>pretending to be Christians and warping the teachings of the bible to fit their literally evil agenda This couldn't be further from the truth. I am truly a Christian, and have a Church family. I place the Bible well above any political ideology. I read the Bible daily. I only wish to help bring people who have had their understanding of Christ distorted by their oppression from politicians and clergy who through their covetousness used their position to confuse the plain-hearted poor working class and their children to work for them, for small wages, and through their work have greatly enriched themselves. The poor children of this Earth use their labour to lift up Tyrants who rule over them. These snakes through their selfishness have out-reached the plain-hearted working class in buying, selling and usury. They impoverish others, and through clever words and gimmicks place themselves in positions of trust and power.
Aaron Richardson
Wow all this BS about you reading the bible daily and you didn't know that the bible specifically states on like 1000 occasions that the theft of property that is explicitly PRIVATE property is a mortal sin.
OK commie. Whatever you say. The fuckin' subversion knows no bounds, right bro?
Charles Rodriguez
>private property is biblical No, I'm sorry it is not. This is scriptually incorrect.. As described in Genesis 1:27-30 when God made the Earth about 6000 years ago he gifted it as a Common Treasury to all mankind. This is the first and most important book in the Bible. God doesn't take preference over any man.
Angel Flores
The bible: the pursuit of wealth is a sin you: YEAH BUT IT ALSO SAYS STEALING IS A SIN SO IF I LOST MY WEALTH THAT WOULD MEAN SOMEONE STOLE IT SO THAT MEANS MY WEALTH IS OKAY Do you actually believe what you type or are you just some shill or a literal child or what?
Daniel Jackson
Dude wow OK you have obviously literally NEVER even read the bible. WTF? Ok I mean so aside from even the 10 commandments and all of that stuff, here is just ONE random bible verse OF FUCKING THOUSANDS that complete disprove what you're saying: >1If a man steals an ox or a sheep and slaughters or sells it, he must repay five oxen for an ox and four sheep for a sheep. 2If a thief is caught breaking in and is beaten to death, no one shall be guilty of bloodshed.… Exodus 22:1-2 Yeah I mean no. Just know. Literally the bible describes ownership constantly, and ownership in a way that is obviously explicitly NOT "personal property" but absolute incontrovertible "private property". AND of course that's even if you divorce the bible from it's historical context, in which they would have been describing theft as the theft of "private property".
So no. Just no. There is NO way for you to realistically make this argument. There is NO way you actually believe what you are saying.
This is the worst, most insidious, and most blatantly dishonest commie LARP I've seen today. You people pull this shit with the subversion nonstop, but I see things like this it just becomes SO clear how patently depraved and lacking in genuine morals or just the fiber of decency you all really are.
Benjamin Foster
The Holy Church states that the right to own private property is derived from nature, not from man; and the state has the right to control it's use in the interests of the public good alone, but by no means to absorb it altogether...
Jordan Ortiz
Dude the bible doesn't say the pursuit of wealth is a sin, lol. That's a quote you just made up. Also even if we were to presume that's true it doesn't matter. That's the whole point of Christianity. You have free will. Lol. Jesus Christ it's incredible how none of you commie assbags have obviously read even one book of the gospels yet you come on here and try to twist some comic-book, pop-culture version of Christianity (that you prob saw in some Jewish movie or TV show) into whatever it is you're trying to twist it into, lol.
Hudson Sanders
Mark 10:21 "And Jesus looking upon him loved him, and said unto him, One thing thou lackest: go, sell whatsoever thou hast, and give to the poor, and thou shalt have treasure in heaven: and come, follow me."
Luke 6:29 "Whoever hits you on the cheek, offer him the other also; and whoever takes away your coat, do not withhold your shirt from him either."
The Earth and it's resources are a common treasury. Theft as described in the Bible refers to those who exploit others, and claim this Common Treasury as their own.
Henry Torres
>The Earth and it's resources are a common treasury. Theft as described in the Bible refers to those who exploit others, and claim this Common Treasury as their own. Dude no? lol. Saying "Don't be materialistic" doesnt = "You don't have a right to own private property". LMAO. Bible is explicitly clear on like 1000 occasions that private property is to be respected.
Here's just one random example out of 1000s >1If a man steals an ox or a sheep and slaughters or sells it, he must repay five oxen for an ox and four sheep for a sheep. 2If a thief is caught breaking in and is beaten to death, no one shall be guilty of bloodshed.… Exodus 22:1-2 It isn't even up for debate. It's not even a fucking question. And obviously if you're owning OXEN you've got flat-out PRIVATE property protected by the state. And not only that, but the bible is full of explicit laws pertaining to how the state should PUNISH people who steal private property.
No. Just no. There's not even a fucking argument to be had here.
This is the MOST pathetic excuse for commie LARPing I've seen in a while.
Also the two fucking gospel passages you cited literally don't even have anything to do with "theft", holy crap. Like literally they have nothing at all to do with theft, LMAO.
>Dude the bible doesn't say the pursuit of wealth is a sin, lol. That's a quote you just made up. Matthew 19:24 Luke 18:25 >Also even if we were to presume that's true it doesn't matter. That's the whole point of Christianity. You have free will. To chose whether you're going to heaven or hell
Juan Morgan
Totally agree OP
Prosperity gospel is a joke. Mark 10:25 "It is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for a rich man to enter into the kingdom of God"
Gavin Hall
>Commie >Christian Pick one
Brody Russell
Context is king. These bible verses are NOT talking against capitalism. And they are NOT suggesting systems of government and economics. Acts in particular is talking about how Christians should care for other less fortunate Christians . And the other verse is talking about how you can only serve one God. And it doesn't money it says mamon
WOW if you guys just did like 2 seconds of research you would have saved yourselves a TON of trouble and embarrassment in your little commie LARP. "Eye of the needle" was a literal physical gate in Jerusalem through which people used to send their camels, but it was so small they had to take all of their cargo off first. The point of passage is that having wealth is fine so long as you can remove yourself from the negative spiritual aspects of it. SRS this is how the church and nearly every sect of Christianity has interpreted this passage since its inception. So fucking clear you guys are not Christians at all.
Furthermore, even if we were to assume Christ meant "the eye of a sewing needle" (which would be fucking retarded just on the face of it, but whatever) it has nothing to do with socialism or the non-recognition of private property.
Christ taught that materialism is not a good thing. Yes. We are all aware. He also explicitly taught that the theft of private property is wrong, which means he explicitly recognized the moral rightness of private property.
Again, as I said earlier, these concepts aren't fucking mutually exclusive, it's just that communists are fucking autistic morons who can't deal with or understand nuance one bit. They're also blatantly dishonest, as you two obviously are because you're OBVIOUSLY not fucking Christian and you are cherry-picking out of context biblical quotes here that don't even have anything to do with the sociopathic and satanic political ideology you are trying to push.
It's just the fucking sheer dishonest of you people that betrays your evil. I mean you have this huge collection of texts, "The Bible", and ALL throughout it it discusses the importance of literal PRIVATE property and respecting that PRIVATE property. It discusses laws and prescriptions for people who steal. It proscribes STATE PUNISHMENT for the theft of said private property. And you have Jesus whom specifically upholds this notion that stealing private property is wrong AT EVERY TURN.
And then you fucking evil, satanic commie pieces of shit have the nerve to come on and say "Because Christ said it's a good thing to be non-materialistic" somehow that = communism? or socialism?
LMAO dude there's a fuckload of "non materialistic" people who are capitalists. LMAO. Why the fuck do socialists think they have some kind of claim to "non materialism" anyhow?
Just fucking kill yourself. You people are literal Satan, demonic spawn trying to push an evil, satanic, demonic ideology that will lead to the complete abolition of human rights and the deaths of untold millions of people, and you're using the name of Jesus Christ to do it.
I truly fucking DO hope there is a special place in hell for you monsters. I can't believe I'm saying this, but you two truly fucking deserve it. So does everyone like you.
Alexander Diaz
It doesn't have to be "Capitalism or Communism" you faggots, both are retarded
Bentley Perez
It literally does tho.
Josiah Murphy
> Jesus also explicitly taught that the theft of private property is wrong
In what verse?
>Was a literal physical gate in Jerusalem through which people used to send their camels.
References?
>It was all a wacky concept that meant Rich people were just fine, and metaphysically had to not care that they ruled over the power and took all the land until they had none OR it literally meant they had no shot of getting into heaven.
>Capitalism is very biblical and Christian Revelations 13:17 "So that they could not buy or sell unless they had the mark, which is the name of the beast or the number of its name."
^^^ Sure sounds like you won't want to be a capitalist in the end times which we are probably in right now.
Joseph Wood
>Nah theft is the sin. so why aren't you against the satanic bourgeoisie stealing everyone's surplus labor?
>"Eye of the needle" was a literal physical gate in Jerusalem through which people used to send their camels, but it was so small they had to take all of their cargo off first. The point of passage is that having wealth is fine so long as you can remove yourself from the negative spiritual aspects of it. This argument seems very Pharisaic Did your prosperity gospel pastor teach you this? >He also explicitly taught that the theft of private property is wrong, which means he explicitly recognized the moral rightness of private property. Matthew 12:1
David Carter
Best post I've read in a long, long, LONG time. God protect you, brother.
Mason Miller
In what verse? In what verse did Jesus teach that theft is wrong? Are you fucking serious? Is this even fucking serious right now? Yeah OK, goodbye commie. I truly hope that NOBODY here is stupid enough to fall for your nonsense.
>Revelations 13:17 >"So that they could not buy or sell unless they had the mark, which is the name of the beast or the number of its name." >^^^ Sure sounds like you won't want to be a capitalist in the end times which we are probably in right now. If there was any doubt in ANYONE'S mind that the people pushing this shit are just commies who have NEVER even read the bible in their lives, let this fucking line here be the fucking proof. That verse in relevation literally refers to the system that satan is going to create on Earth and subject humanity too. And yeah, you won't want ot be a capitalist in that system because capitalists will literally be hunted down and killed. That's the point. Holy shit, LMAO. Wow way to fail in your own fucking twisted twisting of the bibles message. God damn outright satanic commie. Nobody is stealing your labor, you idiot. You can go buy land dirt cheap and live out there, and farm it, and have a fucking hippie commune if you want. You have the freedom to do this. That's the point. NOBODY is stopping you, and if you're gonna complain about the land taxes then I'd be the first one there supporting you and saying they should be lower, or non-existent.
NOBODY is stealing from you just because they won't GIVE YOU MORE SHIT.
How FUCKED UP and TWISTED can you be to actually think that people NOT "giving you shit" is "stealing from you".
FUCKING MONSTER.
Jose Ramirez
"Pharisaic" is literally what you are doing, but just like all commies you turn around and pull the "accuse my enemy of what I myself am guilty of" trope. You are literally fucking Satan.
John Taylor
Holy shit, I wish you were my friend IRL. Not even joking. Lunch is over. Back to my shift. Check on this thread in a few.
Gabriel Wood
>In what verse? In what verse did Jesus teach that theft is wrong? Are you fucking serious? Is this even fucking serious right now? Notice the burger doesn't give a verse Again Matthew 12:1
Jason Thomas
>Nobody is stealing your labor, you idiot. Where do profits come from, then? From thin air?
>You can go buy land dirt cheap and live out there, and farm it, and have a fucking hippie commune if you want. You have the freedom to do this. You really think the bourgeoisie would stand by and allow that? What about WACO????
Dude yeah I'm not going to provide a verse for when Jesus said theft was wrong. You can't even be serious. Like you just can't. There is no way you really believe what you're saying right now. >Where do profits come from, then? From thin air? From a mutually consenting contract. If you don't LIKE the contract, then I would suggest you don't fucking go WORK for these people who feel like are "robbing you". NOBODY is holding a gun to your head and FORCING you to work for them. Ironically, THIS ONLY ACTUALLY HAPPENED IN THE USSR AND OTHER SOCIALIST GOVERNMENTS. If you want to, you can go live out in the middle of nowhere, for SO cheap that it's like practically free. >You really think the bourgeoisie would stand by and allow that? What about WACO???? Waco? Is this a joke? Are you saying that if you go buy a plot of land and farm it, and raise some chickens and shit like that the government is going to come and torch you?
And dude, as far as government overreach, corporate welfare that props up corporate America, billion dollar subsidies that create all of the dreaded "Wealth inequality" and so many of the problems we have today. Yeah. All of that is wrong. But guess what? It's people on the LIBERTARIAN RIGHT WING who are the people who actually call that stuff out and have the actual prescriptions to fix it.
I mean Jesus Christ, since you brought up Waco, that's a perfect example of the libertarian right-wing right there in action.
And you as a commie have the nerve to sit there and say "oh but Waco", really? REALLY?
Like come on dude.
If you're on the left, then you're effectively saying "Government is corrupt, so lets give it MORE power over us and then hope that this time it just does the right thing".
That's why I say that there is just NO way you believe anything you are saying. I mean I genuinely fucking believe you are a demon possessed physical body, who has ceded control to some demonic entity, who is now typing this propaganda.
Liam Richardson
Bless you for making this post OP. I would go a step further and say that buying and selling land is a sin, and that being a landlord is a sin. The Bible says the Earth was made free through God's grace for every one of his Sons and Daughters.
Bentley White
And you know whats FUNNY is that there are a SHITLOAD of peopel who live free and dirt cheap out in the middle of nowhere, and ALL the fucking supposedly "hip trendy urban elitists" who are always SOCIALISTS and complaining about how MISERABLE life is under capitalism, ARE ALWAYS SHITTING ON THESE PEOPLE. You call them "rednecks". "Hillbillies". Meanwhile, you're all fucking MISERABLE in your urban slave-metropolis.
DOES IT EVER OCCUR TO YOU THAT MAYBE YOU'RE JUST PROJECTING? MAYBE YOU'RE PROJECTING YOUR OWN MISERY OUT ON TO THE REST OF THE COUNTRY, WHICH IS STILL FAIRLY FREE (NO THANKS TO YOU) AND CONTENT?
Jesus Christ man. I mean, of course, like I said, you're prob not even a real human. You are prob a demon-possessed physical container pushing this satanic, demon infested fucking propaganda on here.
Michael Adams
Matthew 12:3-4
Christian Campbell
>>Where do profits come from, then? From thin air? >From a mutually consenting contract. Really, what the fuck? Contracts create profits??? So if I just make a bunch of contracts, I'll get rich right?
>Waco? Is this a joke? Are you saying that if you go buy a plot of land and farm it, and raise some chickens and shit like that the government is going to come and torch you? You're the one who said commune. If anyone actually tries to create a society free from usury and exploitation by heading to the countryside and starting a commune, they will get BURNED TO DEATH BY THE FEDS.
Leo Rogers
>Matthew 12:3-4 >3 He answered, “Haven’t you read what David did when he and his companions were hungry? 4 He entered the house of God, and he and his companions ate the consecrated bread—which was not lawful for them to do, but only for the priests. OK? So did you just choose this verse at fucking random or something cuz you think it sounds cool to cite scripture? Are you some bible-verse-spouting bot or some fucking BS?
Ethan White
>You're the one who said commune. If anyone actually tries to create a society free from usury and exploitation by heading to the countryside and starting a commune, they will get BURNED TO DEATH BY THE FEDS. >There are literally thousands of hippie communes all across the country and you can easily find one to join just by googling it. NOBODY is trying to burn them down. Ooooooooooohkay then. I mean it's just exceptionally clear you're not even trying to be honest. >Really, what the fuck? Contracts create profits??? So if I just make a bunch of contracts, I'll get rich right? Yes this is actually literally how it happens BTW.
Aiden Jenkins
Are you for the truth or not? Both communism and capitalism are both shit and focus on materialism.
Xavier Ross
So why did the Feds burn down WACO huh? Fucking glow in the dark.
> >Really, what the fuck? Contracts create profits??? So if I just make a bunch of contracts, I'll get rich right? >Yes this is actually literally how it happens BTW. hahaha holy fuck, turns out profits actually come from MAGIC!
Zachary Martin
Why do you post edited scripture that deliberately changes the meanings of verses?
Acts 4 32. And the multitude of them that believed were of one heart and of one soul: neither said any of them that ought of the things which he possessed was his own; but they had all things common. 33. And with great power gave the apostles witness of the resurrection of the Lord Jesus: and great grace was upon them all. 34. Neither was there any among them that lacked: for as many as were possessors of lands or houses sold them, and brought the prices of the things that were sold, 35. And laid them down at the apostles' feet: and distribution was made unto every man according as he had need. 36. And Joses, who by the apostles was surnamed Barnabas, (which is, being interpreted, The son of consolation,) a Levite, and of the country of Cyprus, 37. Having land, sold it, and brought the money, and laid it at the apostles' feet.
These men SOLD their own property and entered into a community centred around the church. This has nothing to do with Capitalism, which is state-sponsored usury. Usury is already forbidden by scripture.
Matthew 6 19. Lay not up for yourselves treasures upon earth, where moth and rust doth corrupt, and where thieves break through and steal: 20. But lay up for yourselves treasures in heaven, where neither moth nor rust doth corrupt, and where thieves do not break through nor steal: 21. For where your treasure is, there will your heart be also. 22. The light of the body is the eye: if therefore thine eye be single, thy whole body shall be full of light. 23. But if thine eye be evil, thy whole body shall be full of darkness. If therefore the light that is in thee be darkness, how great is that darkness! 24. No man can serve two masters: for either he will hate the one, and love the other; or else he will hold to the one, and despise the other. Ye cannot serve God and mammon.
Christ preached against carnal idolotry. He isnt a commie.
Landon Thomas
why did you post edited scripture not in the original language, faggot?
Joshua Walker
>You're a satanist m-m-monster
No I am spreading God's Word, and providing scripture to back it up. Apparently you don't believe in God's Word or Holy Scripture. I am not a communist, but am here to warn people about the Vengeance of God who will bring justice to the wicked unbelieving capitalist and his covetousness ways. Despite the promise of the cultivations of Heaven it's apparent you have decided to continue eating the bitter and poisonous fruit of capitalism. The good news for you is that God stands ready to pity you on this Day of Mercy, but when the Day of Mercy is over, your most lamentable Cries and Shrieks will be in vain. God will be so far from pitying you when you cry to him, that it will be as Solomon says in Prov. 1. 25, 26 he will Laugh at you and Mock you. Distorting the Bible to protect capitalism, and justify the continuance of the original sin's curse is pure heresy.
Josiah Miller
No one here speaks Koinate Greek, reprobate. The NIV, ESV and LT are utter garbage and you would know it if you had the Spirit in you.
Angel Sanders
OK I'm just gonna assume you're not even serious now. For like 50 comments now I've flat out disproven everything you guys say. Everytime you're disproven, you just ignore it and start on about some other stupid, blatantly untrue or nonsensical or totally non sequitur thing.
I'm off. Bye. >Claims to be a Christian. >Says things that are directly contradictory to EVERYTHING written in the bible. Totally ignores it when confronted with bible passages that disprove what he is saying, or cites completely irrelevant, non sequitur, or out-of-context passages in response. >Literally makes fun of the idea that Satan is real and that Satanists are real and that people are under their influence. OK. Seems legit. I mean it couldn't be clearer that you aren't a Christian at all, man.
But like I said above. I'm off. Peace out everyone. The commies in this thread have VERY OBVIOUSLY never even read the bible are literally possessed by demons
Daniel Price
>I'm off. Bye.
Cool you have
A) Denied your sin of loving the pursuit of material wealth B) Tried to twist the eye of the camel scripture to avoid any responsibility for said sin C) Admitted to being a libertarian whose philosophy pushes drug legalization D) Accused all people engaging in good faith of being demon possessed monsters E) Typed in ALL CAPS like it somehow makes you right
sage because you are literally one of the worst debaters I've ever seen
Austin Gray
The truth is the bible is a collection of contradictions and fanciful stories. The contradictions allow you to basically get away with whatever you want because every alleged sin is permissible thanks to some random verse Christians dig up whenever they're caught with their pants down. >Uhh actually, I can have sex with that prostitute and it's not considered adultery because it says here in page 11 "thou can plucketh thine fruit for thine loins from any tree they desire"
Jace Walker
You could have just written "I haven't read the bible" and it would have given the same message as what you posted just did. Why just post lies? This is an anonymous imageboard, you can speak the truth here.
Thomas Fisher
They say Christianity was the original communism.
Ian Scott
Christianity actually requires you to NOT steal, unlike communism, so that's not really an accurate statement.
Andrew Reyes
It's not a lie that every time Christians are caught violating some sort of commandment, they thumb through their bibles to find a passage that allows you to get away with whatever it is they're doing wrong. There's always some sort of passage that allows you to get away with murder. It's a convenient tool.
Luke Hernandez
>quotes scripture king david stealing bread but does not comprehend the logos >thinks this is a non sequitur Mathew 12:1-44
Mason Hernandez
You keep talking about satan, and calling OP a satanist but satan is a capitalist. He offered Jesus the world as his property. Satan tempts people with greed and money. I don't necessarily agree with OPs hellfire and brimstone theology, but I do think Bible is very anticapitalist. I became a communist mostly, because of the Bible and scriptures such as "Blessed are the poor" and "I was hungry and you fed me". There is nothing spiritual about capitalism and greed. Selflessly working and fighting for the poor of the earth is something I would not regret on my deathbed. Communism is the only political ideology whose guiding etho is giving the poor and working class real tools of economic and political liberty.
Brandon Reed
OP is right that capitalism is rooted in the sin of avarice, particularly with regard to usury and the pursuit of wealth, and also with man being turned into a wage slave subject to his employer's rule.
But OP is wrong that private property is itself wrong or sinful. or that Christ preached socialism.
Man is created in God's image and has the inherent need to act upon the world, as God intended. Just as God created the world, man seeks to add to this creation. Through work man creates and becomes more like God, and through work becomes more virtuous and better able to support his family and those around him, helping them to become more virtuous as well.
But man needs the tools with which to work, and as a child of God all men have as a birthright a claim on a portion of God's creation sufficient for him to work and provide for himself and his family.
Denying man this birthright, either though the Capitalist system of concentrated ownership and usury, or through the Socialist system of communal/government owned property, is a sin. it is theft from both God and man. And even more so, it prevents man from providing for his family and pursuing a virtuous life.
Look at the fruits of Capitalism today and see what it has wrought: man unable to care for his family, families breaking apart, divorce rampant, abortion, crime, degeneracy of all kinds not just permitted but celebrated and encouraged. But the same can be said of the Communists who would deny God outright and seek to destroy the family so that man can evolve into a community of honeybees.
The Bible is useless for gaining social acceptance. You can't deflect accusations of wrongdoing by quoting a verse. If anything you would be attracting more scrutiny.
Julian Harris
Jesus preached a system where there is no ownership and you borrow and give without question.
Colton Gray
What if one welcomes that scrutiny? John 1:1
Andrew Bell
This literally didn't happen and you just entirely pulled this out of your ass.
William White
Then so be it. I'm just pointing out that the idea that the Bible is a tool for protecting one's reputation is nonsense.
Daniel Flores
>No one can serve two masters >You cannot serve both God and money." Providing for your family by working and earning money, isn't worshiping money or money being your god.
1 Timothy 5:8 8 But if any provide not for his own, and specially for those of his own house, he hath denied the faith, and is worse than an infidel.
Exodus 20:15 15 Thou shalt not steal.
John Lopez
He's thinking of John Lennon.
Liam Harris
People do it all the time. Telling them they can't clearly hasn't stopped them, and scrutiny sure as fuck doesn't seem to deter them (however little scrutiny they receive).
Evan Green
This is a great tske. I'm going to read this and get back in a few minutes to discuss. Honestly, I don't seperate my spirituality from politics even though there is a stigma about state and religion. The difference is that I see the current capitalist system as totally corrupt and headed towards devestating consequences for all of us. At any rate, that was an aside. I'm going to read that now.
Jordan Mitchell
Really. Tell me about one time when you saw someone use the Bible to justify their bad behavior.
Luis Gomez
Acts 2:44-47
Oliver Gonzalez
Matthew 12:46-50
Christian Jackson
What is context.
Carter Foster
Context is living within the holy spirit
James Turner
I get that but those verses say nothing about property ownership. I've never seen a quote from Jesus asking people to give away their land when asking people to follow him.
Mason Torres
And the Bible should be the basis of morality anyway. What do you cite when someone accuses you of doing something wrong? The constitution?
Jacob Gonzalez
Matthew 19:21 Luke 18:22
Jaxson Rivera
When a rich man asked Jesus how to get to heaven Jesus told him to sell him everything he owns. How do you not know this?
Isaiah Roberts
retard Yeshua was an Essene
stop projecting your stupid idealogies on the savior thats blasphemy
Ethan Hill
>it actually litreally says that in the gospels omg In the same way, those of you who do not give up everything you have cannot be my disciples.
luke 14:33
Ayden Rodriguez
>Disproven OP You've done no such thing. You've contorted the Bible in evil ways, and refuse to accept the Word of God.
I'm off. Peace out everyone. I feel real bad for you. You twisted the Bible to justify the pure evilness of capitalism. It is impossible for to conceive of words that clearly describe the Contempt, hatred, and fierceness of anger God has in store for you. If you cry to God to pity you, he will be so far from pitying you in your impenitent Case, or even showing you the least regard, that instead of pitying you he’ll only stomp on you. Even though he’ll be fully aware that you can’t bear the weight of his Omnipotence stomping you repeatedly, he won’t regard your pain at all. He will crush you under his Feet without Mercy; he’ll stomp out your Blood, and make it fly, and it shall be spray all over his Garments, so as to stain his Apparel. He will not only hate you, but he will hold you in the utmost Contempt. He will think of no other Place more fit for you than being stomped under his Feet. The misery you will be exposed to will last for eternity, and then you will know what that Wrath of Jehovah is. Then you will regret distorting the Bible to justify capitalism and the merciless tyrants who rule over us with an evil iron fist.
Jeremiah Wright
If I'm in the wrong then I just fess up, I don't quote anything. If I screwed up then I screwed up. Maybe make it up to them if I could. If I was an asshole to someone, no bible verse is going to change that. Nothing in the constitution would change that. If only life were that simple
Jaxon Young
>Giving to charity >Not equal to the state stealing everything you have by force and redistributing it as it sees fit. WTF seriously. Why do you even need context? How is giving to charity = to "socialism"? Look up the stats on who is more likely to give to charity, lefties or right-wingers. LMAO. Right-wingers are far more likely to give by a pretty staggering margin. That's why when you turn on Fox News you always see those "give to the sick kids" commercials. They know conservatives dole out.
Being charitable has nothing to do with socialism. You are literally a demon tho.
Matthew Campbell
Lol wow. What a giant wall of "Accuse my enemy of what I myself am guilty of".
Liam King
Back in the good days we called you a communist, you would be beaten. And sometimes you would succumb to your wounds. You are a communist. This post is bait. Sage then an hero
Wyatt Russell
>Mark 10:19 >You know the commandments: ‘Do not murder, Do not commit adultery, Do not steal, Do not bear false witness, Do not defraud, Honor your father and mother.’” PRETTY FUCKING CLEAR, RIGHT? JUST LIKE IN THE CONSTITUTION WHERE IT SAYS "SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED" AND THE LEFTIES FUCKING DISREGARD IT AS THEY SEE FIT! >Mark 10:19 >You know the commandments: ‘Do not murder, Do not commit adultery, Do not steal, Do not bear false witness, Do not defraud, Honor your father and mother.’” PRETTY FUCKING CLEAR, RIGHT? JUST LIKE IN THE CONSTITUTION WHERE IT SAYS "SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED" AND THE LEFTIES FUCKING DISREGARD IT AS THEY SEE FIT! >Mark 10:19 >You know the commandments: ‘Do not murder, Do not commit adultery, Do not steal, Do not bear false witness, Do not defraud, Honor your father and mother.’” PRETTY FUCKING CLEAR, RIGHT? JUST LIKE IN THE CONSTITUTION WHERE IT SAYS "SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED" AND THE LEFTIES FUCKING DISREGARD IT AS THEY SEE FIT! >Mark 10:19 >You know the commandments: ‘Do not murder, Do not commit adultery, Do not steal, Do not bear false witness, Do not defraud, Honor your father and mother.’” PRETTY FUCKING CLEAR, RIGHT? JUST LIKE IN THE CONSTITUTION WHERE IT SAYS "SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED" AND THE LEFTIES FUCKING DISREGARD IT AS THEY SEE FIT!
Carson Sullivan
Is anyone in here even a Theologian? Or are you all just pretending like you've read the bible front to back and remember everything? It seems like there's always a quote someone is unaware of that contradicts their case.
Dylan Walker
but private property is theft
Nolan Collins
>Matthew 19:18 >He said to him, “Which ones?” And Jesus said, “You shall not murder, You shall not commit adultery, You shall not steal, You shall not bear false witness" IN ORDER FOR "THEFT" TO BE A THING, YOU NEED "PRIVATE PROPERTY" TO BE A THING. THEREFORE CHRIST BELIEVES IN PRIVATE PROPERTY. THEREFORE CHRIST IS A CAPITALIST. PERIOD. THANKS FOR PLAYING YOU DEMONIC COMMIE FAGGOTS. >Matthew 19:18 >He said to him, “Which ones?” And Jesus said, “You shall not murder, You shall not commit adultery, You shall not steal, You shall not bear false witness" IN ORDER FOR "THEFT" TO BE A THING, YOU NEED "PRIVATE PROPERTY" TO BE A THING. THEREFORE CHRIST BELIEVES IN PRIVATE PROPERTY. THEREFORE CHRIST IS A CAPITALIST. PERIOD. THANKS FOR PLAYING YOU DEMONIC COMMIE FAGGOTS. >Matthew 19:18 >He said to him, “Which ones?” And Jesus said, “You shall not murder, You shall not commit adultery, You shall not steal, You shall not bear false witness" IN ORDER FOR "THEFT" TO BE A THING, YOU NEED "PRIVATE PROPERTY" TO BE A THING. THEREFORE CHRIST BELIEVES IN PRIVATE PROPERTY. THEREFORE CHRIST IS A CAPITALIST. PERIOD. THANKS FOR PLAYING YOU DEMONIC COMMIE FAGGOTS. >Matthew 19:18 >He said to him, “Which ones?” And Jesus said, “You shall not murder, You shall not commit adultery, You shall not steal, You shall not bear false witness" IN ORDER FOR "THEFT" TO BE A THING, YOU NEED "PRIVATE PROPERTY" TO BE A THING. THEREFORE CHRIST BELIEVES IN PRIVATE PROPERTY. THEREFORE CHRIST IS A CAPITALIST. PERIOD. THANKS FOR PLAYING YOU DEMONIC COMMIE FAGGOTS. >Matthew 19:18 >He said to him, “Which ones?” And Jesus said, “You shall not murder, You shall not commit adultery, You shall not steal, You shall not bear false witness" IN ORDER FOR "THEFT" TO BE A THING, YOU NEED "PRIVATE PROPERTY" TO BE A THING. THEREFORE CHRIST BELIEVES IN PRIVATE PROPERTY. THEREFORE CHRIST IS A CAPITALIST. PERIOD. THANKS FOR PLAYING YOU DEMONIC COMMIE FAGGOTS.
Lucas King
didn't you hear? Jesus rewards good people by making them rich and Jesus punishes bad people by making them poor
Having literally any other opinion means you are hitler/satan/communism and want to kill puppies and kittens
"Then Jesus said to him, Put your sword back into its place. For all who take the sword will perish by the sword. Do you think that I cannot appeal to my Father, and he will at once send me more than twelve legions of angels? But how then should the Scriptures be fulfilled, that it must be so?”
Someone find a quote that contradicts this one so we can all justify murder. There should be a bible quote somewhere. I'm sure you can find one if you look hard enough.
Nolan Lopez
FINISH HIM >FINISH HIM FINISH HIM >FINISH HIM FINISH HIM >FINISH HIM FINISH HIM >FINISH HIM FINISH HIM >FINISH HIM
>Luke 3:13-14 >And he said to them, “Collect no more than you are authorized to do.” Soldiers also asked him, “And we, what shall we do?” And he said to them, “Do not extort money from anyone by threats or by false accusation, and be content with your wages.”
CHRIST IS A FUCKING CAPITALIST, YOU COMMIE FUCKS. AND HE AINT PARTICULARLY FOND OF TAXATION!
BE CONTENT WITH YOUR WAGES! >BE CONTENT WITH YOUR WAGES! BE CONTENT WITH YOUR WAGES! >BE CONTENT WITH YOUR WAGES!
FUCKING COMMIES BTFO!
CHRIST DOESN'T EVEN SUPPORT 15$ AN HOUR MINIMUM!
Connor Gray
hello there is a standard distinction between private property and personal belongings
you can own your teddy bear as your personal property, and taking it away from you would be mean, and theft.
you can't own a field or a house, because they're not ownable by persons. if you force people to pay rent for use of those things you will promptly be sent to gulag. this is righteous, and not theft.
Connor Bennett
>Luke 3:13-14 >13 And he said to them, “Collect no more than you are authorized to do.” 14 Soldiers also asked him, “And we, what shall we do?” And he said to them, “Do not extort money from anyone by threats or by false accusation, and be content with your wages.” CHRIST IS ANTI-THEFT. ANTI-EXTORTION. ANTI-TAXATION!
AND HE LITERALLY WANTS YOU TO SHUT THE FUCK UP ABOUT ASKING FOR HIGHER MINIMUM WAGES!
COMMIE DEMON OPS ETERNALLY BTFO!
HAVE FUN ROASTING IN HELL, DEMONIC FAGGOT!
Jose Carter
>CHRIST IS ANTI-THEFT. ANTI-EXTORTION. ANTI-TAXATION! correct, so he's a commie ;^)
Nathan Powell
>luke 14:33 So likewise, whosoever he be of you that forsaketh not all that he hath, he cannot be my disciple. Are you insane? Should I just not eat too? I don't want to sound mean but you clearly don't know what you're talking about. >Matthew 19:21 You're taking this out of context, Jesus is literally asking him to come with him, this isn't a figure of speech. Well it is in the sense that you should be WILLING to, not that you MUST, he would be contradicting the Bible if not. 22 But when the young man heard that saying, he went away sorrowful: for he had great possessions. 23 Then said Jesus unto his disciples, Verily I say unto you, That a rich man shall hardly enter into the kingdom of heaven. 24And when Jesus saw that he was very sorrowful, he said, How hardly shall they that have riches enter into the kingdom of God!
The 23 year old, God fearing man, who just purchased a small piece of land and is working to provide for his wife and children isn't condemned to hell (assuming he follows the other commandments).
“You shall not covet your neighbor’s house; you shall not covet your neighbor’s wife or his male servant or his female servant or his ox or his donkey or anything that belongs to your neighbor.”
“You shall not move your neighbor’s boundary mark, which the ancestors have set . . . .”
One of the fifty chapters of the book of Genesis, chapter twenty-three, is devoted to describing in detail Abraham’s purchase of a plot of land to bury his wife Sarah. This suggests that standards for buying and selling property were already well developed in 2000 B.C. in the ancient Near East.
Property can be acquired via inheritance (see Deuteronomy 21:16 and Proverbs 19:14).
Virtues such as “industriousness, wisdom, and the development of insight” are also means by which possessions and property may be acquired (Proverbs 10:4, 13:4, and 14:23; Proverbs 3:16, and Proverbs 14:15, respectively).
