Could National Socialism Work Today?

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white people who were traitors and sided with commies rather than accepting Hitler as the savior.

The first step would be replacing representative republicanism with more direct democratic practices. We need to actually vote directly on issues. Representatives always sell you down the river to the kikes eventually see:Trump.

This. Wanting to genocide the Russians was fucking stupid. They should have tried to stop communism and puppet Poland.

>Wanting to genocide the Russians was fucking stupid.
source?

>Commies

Most peasants hated in Eastern Europe hated the USSR, Ukranians welcomed the Germans with open arms until they found out Hitler refused to end the communist collective farms and intended to starve the Ukranians to death same as Stalin.

Poles weren't communist and Hitler killed them by the millions after allying with Stalin.

Sure that's how it went?

Hitler's entire Eastern Europe policy

books.google.com/books?id=l20PlJtfk0IC&printsec=frontcover#v=onepage&q&f=false

Why don't you read the Natsoc's own stated policy propositions?
The point is the ideology is poisoned, find something new or be doomed to failure no one wants to follow the movement that killed tens of millions of whites.

Source: the Nazi's official policies, Mein Kampf and the actions of the Nazi's.

Or are you asking why it was stupid? It's stupid because it rallies the Russians too hard. You don't want your enemy to fight to the death. You want them to think you're here to help and to surrender.

All these isms just makes me wanna go move inna woods.

Fuck it. Nothing works anyways.

Yes it would. But, there's one problem. You need someone willing to implement it.
No he didn't want to. He didn't write nor say even once Russians are subhuman either.
>Source: the Nazi's official policies, Mein Kampf and the actions of the Nazi's.
No policies like that exist, you haven't actually read Mein Kampf he expresses zero hate for Russians in it, only hate for Judeo Bolshevism. Read Mein Kampf before talking bullshit. And what part of both sides agreeing to total war don't you understand

National Socialism = Socialism.

Yes, what's your point? It's the opposite of international socialism aka marxism. Fucking Americans and your muh liberty and muh capitalism worshipping

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That's doesn't prove some "secret" plan to genocide Russians dumbass

To be honest I actually might be wrong about that. I have not read Mein Kampf yet and most of this is what I learned in school so I'll shut up for now.

Nah not at all. An economic depression would do the trick more than fine, we need a severe economic depression in Europe to make people snap out of their comfort zone anyhow

Hitler didn't abolish a single communist collective farm he wanted to starve the Ukranians and other East Slavs to death ironically by using Stalinist tactics.

It wasn't secret

You got the basics right

You actually should read it, you can read it on archive.org. He doesn't once express hatred or disdain or anything similar to Slavs. Of course they lied about him to you in school they didn't expect any of you to actually read it. Do you really think they would tell you the truth

It won't work either. Just face it the average bloke has no interest to form a real political opinion.
So what does he do ? He turns on the mainstream media and adopts what is shilled there.
Direct democracy would be an improvement since manipulating the masses is more difficult than corrupting elected officials, but in the end you would still have the same problems.

>It wasn't secret
Yeah, because no plan like that existed at all
>he wanted to starve the Ukranians and other East Slavs
Keyword, "wanted" according to the plans that don't even exist
>Stalinist tactics.
Scorched earth tactics are not stalinist tactics, what the fuck do you even mean by that

Basted in redpills.

Libertarianism is open borders.

Fuck off shill

National Socialism will never, ever, until the end of time, ever see a return in any country's government.

The plans and various bureacratic orders are all documented in the book I posted. And yes the plans were never fully realized because Hitler lost the war and never had full control but at the very least he could have ended the Communist collective farm system and he NEVER did.

I'm okay with fascism returning if natsoc doesn't tbqh. And if fasicsm doesn't directly an ideology based on it's tennents will

I don't know about Germany but if we had direct democracy all the spics in the country would already be deported and we would go back to the Operation Wetback days of the 1950s. Only the republican system is blocking us because all the reps care about is shilling for Israel.

cringe and definitely not ethnopluralist pilled

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>The plans and various bureacratic orders are all documented in the book I posted
I was saying no plans or orders that included genocide of slavs in any capacity existed. You're free to point me to them with proof. The only things that book could include is scorched earth attacks that were carried out by Germany, and those were

>Germanic genocidal anti-Slavic autism.
Ah so that's why Slavs could get full citizenship within the Reich and why my great grandfather did have citizenship in Germany

why not just abandoned fiat currency and return to money that is actually backed up by something and can't magically come into existence as your debt?
the jews biggest power is the economical one. you let them to control all the money supply in the world with zero resistance,because "economic voodoo" "its to complicated goy just trust us" and you end up in the shitshow that is the modern world.

No.

But we are running fascist societies and have been since the 1930s.

The book is mostly about the various Hunger Plan objectives for the occupation during Barbarossa which were based around using Stalinist tactics of seizing the Slavs food and waiting for them to die.

Various Slavic groups got a pass for autistic reasons (Germans claimed they were "part German" due to all the status) like the Czechs, Croats, etc. By Slavs I mostly mean East Slavs and Poles.

Certainly are enough fags for it

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>kill 60 million europeans of which maybe 10% were jews
>THEY ONLY HATED THE JEWS GUYS

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>Various Slavic groups got a pass for autistic reasons (Germans claimed they were "part German" due to all the status) like the Czechs, Croats, etc. By Slavs I mostly mean East Slavs and Poles.
No all Europeans were considered Aryan and could get an Aryan certificate and thus a full citizenship

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>Allies killed millions of white people
>WTF THEY WANTED TO GENOCIDE ALL WHITE PEOPLE

>Central powers in WW1 killed white people
>WTF THEY WANTED KILL ALL EUROPEANS

>Napoleon killed lots of white people
>WTF HE WANTED TO GENOCIDE EUROPEANS!??!

the same way North korea works.

comunism and natsoc are the same thing just a diffrent branding.

>comunism and natsoc are the same thing just a diffrent branding.

Are you intentionally doing it to bait or something? Here's one big difference for you right off the bat, communism is strictly internationalistic and continuously wanted the abolition of borders

>wanting votes
Disgusting. Anonymous ballots means the death of individualism in politics.

Communism is just international socialism as opposed to national socialism

National Socialism is actually economically right wing. The top tax rate in Germany in 1941 was 13.7%.

>entire country crumbles in debt and degeneracy after the versailles treaty
>ruling class turns from germans to jews
>they control all your media and cultural outlets
>degeneracy is rampant, transexual balls are held and you can buy mother daughter hooker teams for pennies
>want to reclaim the honor and wellbeing of your people
>fix it
>get bombed by britain for refusing to be exploited by the global market, send 24 peace offerings at various times, all declined
>betrayed by the new polish leader meanwhile your people are being murdered right across their border
>fight back against it
>britain forces the americans into it
>the americans strike a deal with the communists, giving them modern weapons, food and money
>strategically unimportant german cities are firebombed by the british without letting civilians evacuate to cause demoralization, killing hundreds of thousands
>meanwhile soviets are behind enemy lines using german uniforms to burn villages and blame it on them
>execute the leaders in a post war trial that doesn't require evidence to be presented - just because muh evil nazis
>global media cabal pushes a fake narrative of a holocaust on you - a lie perpetuated decades before the 1940s
>this is all because germany are hateful bigots and wanted to genocide everyone around them
Watch less Ben Shapiro

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Communism is not socialism, but sure in a basic view I suppose

>all Europeans were considered Aryan

German policy was vague but in general Slavs were considered lesser than Germans and especially East Slavs were targets of mass genocide. Some Slavic groups could get a pass if they rolled over to German aggression (Czechs) or were allies (Bulgarians, Croats).

Nigger my grand-grandpa was Reich citizen and held rather important job. And we are pretty much Slav-only family for centuries. Metric ton of Slavs served both in Wehrmacht and SS, Ukros and Russkies included. One of the most famous German tank aces was Czech-born and he is also laid for eternal rest in Czech soil.

I'm with Slovenianbro on this, I'm convinced there was no plan to mass-murder Slavs. I suspect it is mostly propaganda utilized and created by Stalin.

Oy vey!

Like I said specific groups got a pass Czechs, Bulgarians, etc. Poles abd Serbs would have gotten a pass if they refused to fight. Belarusians, Ukranians (outside Gallicia), etc were never getting a pass.

They couldnt agree on a system and defaulted to jewish oligarchy. Their disagreement can be and is being used as a springboard to nat soc, they dont have to know anymore now either

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Sorry he has a severe case of boomer cuckservatism.

By they i mean the people comprised of the allies, not axis, up until this point

Jewish projection. Hitler got wind of homosexuals trying to infiltrate the higher ranks of the army and he had them all put to death.

Absolutely no documents of the so called "slav extermination plan" exist. Even wikipedia states this. Germany formed a manifesto for the liberation of Russia from the bolsheviks and constructed a plan on top of which to build a fair state for them and supported groups that worked on these principles. The fact that they hated eastern Europeans is iron curtain propaganda meant to fool the citizens into thinking the soviets liberated them. The Russians today still talk to us about how they liberated Estonia and the Baltics from evil Nazi occupation meanwhile the people weren't in any way oppressed and saw good economic activity during that time. As soon as the soviets took over they started executing important government and cultural officials and practiced an economic system which stole resources from us and made Moscow richer. The amount of propaganda that was pushed and the ways they would twist it was pretty incredible really. Sadly I'm seeing much of the same in today's media as well.

>German policy was vague but in general Slavs were considered lesser than Germans
No they weren't. Hitler definitely didn't have that view. Sure he put Germans first that's an undeniable fact, but he did not hate slavs, consider them lesser, or like some idiots say "subhuman"

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no the society will look back on the stuff people where through and wouldn't want to be in that situation

Hey Stalin

So that's why there were SS groups in Ukraine of ethnic Ukranians, when SS policy clearly stated only Aryans could be in the SS, eh?

He spams that pic constantly kek, it just makes me laugh now

Also can we stop this Slav discussion now, it's just a circlejerk and derails the thread

It has no use to argue with him. He is a victim of propaganda education

There were plenty of Ukros outside of SS Galizien division who served and worked with/in the Reich, user. Russkies too. Funny little fact: to this very day, German gov still pays retirement for plenty of Ukrainian SS volunteers. Same applies to Belarusskies, they even had natsoc party before the war.

It can be safely said that only Slavs who didn't really clicked with Germans were Polebros.

I also remember that there was this Reich document that stated that plenty of Czechs are more Aryan than portion of Germans - to be able to differentiate this factually shows that Germany really couldn't harbor some irrational hate towards Slavs.

I agree, well put.

East Slavs and Poles were in the "liquidate" category which is why Hitler never bothered even ending the collective farm system that Stalin had used to kill millions already despite the fact private land ownership was more productive in Ukraine.

Hitler resisted recruiting East Slavs as long as he could it took all his general demanding it before he relented in 1943, almost two years and by that time the war was basically over. The generals wanted to recruit Slavs especially Ukranians (except in Gallicia) from day one but Hitler refused and wanted to keep them as verifiable slaves to the communist collective farms. See the actions of the Reich Commisar Koch.

That's impossible to know. National socialism never existed in circumstances remotely normal. Any system could've defied versailles and had enormous economics benefits

East Slavs weren't used in the military until mid 1943 when the war was all but lost. Before that they could only be employed as anti-partisans or police. Hitler never even wanted to give them those positions but was forced by necessity same with the military. Hitler never wanted to though.