Why are men so intent on destroying their lives for women?

Yo POL - I have a query for you.

I am a 26 year old male, I have been single for the past 8 years. I've had sex with only three women in my life - I am generally considered to be handsome by most people who meet me.

I live the typical doomer lifestyle - no friends, lifting endlessly to maintain fitness for no particular reason - I do not however feel particularly depressed but I am generally ashamed of the state of my life.

The point : I am 26 and I have been seeing a 34 year old degenerate woman at work who was my manager. As I am a lonely retard, I am feeling the typical "love" response that all males feel when receiving attention from the opposite sex. This woman is a regular drug user, covered in tattoos and extreme leftist. She has also expressed interest in an open relationship - she displays none of the political or moral values that I hold as necessary to living a dignified and honorable life.

Why am I such a cuck that I would accept all these things in the face of my clearly defined values for some regular pussy and attention from a woman. Is loneliness the ultimate catalyst to male weakness? I am a confident, strong and fit leader within my work community (manager).

Why is it that all these values fold in the face of alleviating my loneliness when I would not even consider myself cripplingly depressed?

I am very high on cocaine so my apologies to all the users as this may not make much sense. Hopefully the point warrants discussion.

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sage

While I realize this may not be political - I am a conservative male and find it curious why I'm willing to accept a female who is so clearly opposite of myself - is this not worthy of discussion?

Intense brainwashing since childhood couple with nigger-like impulsive behaviour.

r9k is that way faggot, POL is for Chads, fuck off supreme faggot.

Am I just retarded or is the willingness to adapt to receive the acceptance of women an in built fault of males, generally speaking?

girls are icky

how can you fuck someone that shills for the hill?

I do not disagree that the generally exercised state of culture is from the point of view of an archetypical chad - none of you here are chads. Chads don't spend time on message boards - this you will have no issue agreeing with.
Is my post too egregious? If so I will vacate the thread.

Honestly dont do it
Then thot will fk with you and you'll kind of hate yourself for getting rejected by something you wouldnt even want yourself. "How low can I go, type of feel".
Its one of the thing that lead me to be depressed of myself

If you're feeling the typical love response as you put it, it sounds like just about any woman will make you feel like this. Just replace her with a less degenerate woman bro. You dont sound particularly picky and your looks don't seem to be an issue either so you shouldnt be getting stepped on by this woman.

While most items I allow to become a part of my life - it is obvious to me that I am hormonally drawn to this woman - she's tiny and extremely cute, she is primarily interested in the aspects of culture I was most interested in as a highschooler.

This is helping in some way - I must be attempting to placate the romance less teenager within my psyche with this girl. Anyone with solid psychology understanding able to break this possibility down?

Stop taking drugs. Stop using ebonics, even if it's intended to he ironic. Ditch that cunt and find yourself a nicer, younger lass.

stop using cocaine and let your dopamine levels drop to normal.
that's how you fix your life

just find a better chick you douche. unless you are in reality an ugly retard

This is pretty basic, dude.
We're bred to breed.

Make the most of your situation and do your best to learn as much as you can about yourself and other people no matter how painful it may be. You'll be alright.

>I am very high on cocaine
There's your answer, you're a degenerate yourself. You poison your body with shit that fucks with your dopamine receptors.

This!

All women are approximately the same, bar the egregious retards and the very few non-NPCs.
95% of women are interchangeable.
So chillax and take a less disgusting whore if this specimen causes you concern.

What you've said mimics the self talk I've employed to try to rationalize moving away from this relationship, the problem is that while I honestly do not feel lonely or desperate (this relationship began organically) I feel an illogical and otherwise extremely potent feeling of "not wanting to remove myself" from the comfort of being with someone.

Is this simply extreme lack of intimacy being fulfilled like an addiction - should I just use this woman to fulfill my primary needs and see if my logical requirements regain priority once my baser instincts are placated?

I feel so autistic typing this out, but it does feel like I'm telling the truth.

To be honest, your posts and obviously elevated mood make me wanna do lines with you.

Have you tried to meet anyone else? Have you made an effort to date other people?

This is not something that is extremely common for me - I use cocaine approximately 10-20 times per year, or 1-2 times per month.

I will admit it is purely to numb the boredness/loneliness that comes when the work week ends.

Maybe she's your type. I would probably bend my standards for a chick that triggered some inborn attraction wiring.

No, I have not - I have not been at all interested in relationships since I was a teen. I am generally more curious in this idea : I am primarily motivated by my morals and ideals in life : I have never sought out relationships as an adult but this woman pursued me strongly enough I did not have to make any effort - when things developed I counterintuitively developed typical feelings of infatuation : this is mostly confusing as I am able to direct my life almost entirely on will and my defined morality/ideals but in this case (women) I seem to have lost all ability to rationalize my behavior in regards to her. Is this just the reality of the potency of mamalian reproductive instinct? I deeply believed I was above this, and now I find my emotions slave to a person who's life I would consider disgusting if in the body of a man.

I ain't no footfag but those are some feet I'd definitely eat!

Get the fuck away from that whore before you catch something, you faggot.

>Uh, my roastie manager is such a degenerate, eh?
>*snooooooorts coke*

I haven't had enough experience to determine a type - she is just very kind towards me and we have sex occasionally. I am just embarrassed how easily the first genuine pursuit from a woman towards me has derailed what I considered the pillars of my existence.

Do you think this is simply due to :

1. My weakness of character
2. the potency of mamalian desire for reproduction
3. a psychological addiction due to the lack of interaction with women in life?

To any chads - if you have regular sex with multiple partners, do you find that your attachment to women is more easily broken/controlled?

why are you such a cuck. oh gee i dunno, try re-reading what you type

If shes the one who pursued you then its already clear that she's punching way up. Never mind the fact that shes 35. You should have no problems calling the shots in this situation. Just put down your foot and tell her to either slow the fuck down with her bullshit or you walk. She probably thinks she has you whipped and she can do what she wants, which unfortunately might be the case. Just take charge and if she's not gonna try and change for you then you know she's not worth pursuing further.

I am a 49 year old male, I have been single for the past 10 years.
I've had sex with only five women in my life - I am generally considered to be handsome by most people who meet me.

I live the typical genx lifestyle -friends are dead friends or did the marriage kids thing and we faded out of each others lives.

I do some days however feel particularly depressed

but I am not generally ashamed of the state of my life,I used to be, but I got so old that idgaf.

It stays about the same, I can't be bothered to fuck women my age, younger women I can't get interested in.
Life just repeats the same old things it gets tiresome.

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That's what seems so paradoxical - I know she's had sex with a very large number of men. When I view this as disconnected from her it disgusts me (though I cannot articulate why - possibly innately)

Her behavior is repulsive - but her individuality causes me to forgive it all. I've even been influenced to the point of mimic'ing her lifestyle (casually using party drugs - cocaine, mdma, marijuana, etc) where this was previously not something I would ever consider .

My base point again - and I apologize for repeating myself but I have yet to see a response that provides what I'm looking for :

Is a man nothing without a woman? Are my ideals so meaningless in the face of my reproductive instinct? Am I just psychologically damaged from loneliness that I am so immediately willing to accept this relationship solely for the sake of contact with a woman?

I used to be one of those "i did it all for the nookie" fags. I'm fairly chad, fit, 6'5" and have no problem getting girly ass. I dumped my ex and now I straight up tell women that I would rather be friends with them and use them for sex because I dont have time for a relationship. Result = I get laid 10x more often. I realize this is a problem for society though, it honestly makes me think even less of them. Still happy being single.

Yes- this is the correct source. Very attractive Brazilian model.

Your in your 20's , which is the young idealistic part of your life. During this time men are most willing to pedestalize and idolize women which serves the purpose of getting you to breed. Women are pragmatists and a woman in her 30's will have lost a lot of the natural fear her younger self would have had that also would make her cling to a man to breed with.

I was very upfront with women at work that I was solely interested in friendship - I do feel like the more I indicated this the more interest developed towards me from the women at work. The only difference is that this woman took an aggressive stance towards me and I complied because it felt good.

I have seen old men do this too. If you are asking yourself what happens to her when you leave, then that is just something men commonly do. If she asks like she doesn't give a shit then neither would I.

Well, that's just me, and to be honest, I still haven't met a girl that just fucked my shit up if you know what I mean. I would probably change my tune for THAT girl.

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While I agree with your synopsis - I do believe this to be the case with a lot of women as they begin to lose their fertility or attractiveness to men.

The complexity is that she is still a very popular and attractive to men - I am certain that she is having sex with others beyond myself. This is chalked up as her brand of feminism.

While I logically view this as something to avoid - I still accept all her requests to hang out and feel happy doing it.

I cannot understand this process.

>Is loneliness the ultimate catalyst to male weakness?
No, it takes a strong man to live a life of solitude, you wanting to hook up with some washed up old roastie is your weakness showing.

The problem was stated pretty clearly - I logically understand why this behavior should be avoided - I am confused as to WHY it is I'm willing to engage in the behavior regardless. My primary hypothesis is that the human desire for procreation supersedes low to moderate level will.

I thought I was steel-willed, maybe it's just women that break this.

I don't disagree with you, and while weakness of character is certainly a probable cause - I do not think this is the answer.

Oh cmon every man here would do ANYTHING for a girl like OPs pic. Don't fucking kid yourselves.

I don't think that I have a specific enough post to warrant any discussion of value. Sorry guys - let this one die.

Well you kind of answered your own question. Since it happens next to never, her showing deep interest made you feel genuinely valued.

If the girl in pic is a 10/10, the girl I am referencing is an 8/10. Just older and has lot of tattoo's, beautiful face and very feminine otherwise.

It's easier to give in sensual pleasure than not, there you go. And sex drive is a very powerful thing. Also doomers are known for liking conservative values but not acting on them and thats you right now.
>To any chads - if you have regular sex with multiple partners, do you find that your attachment to women is more easily broken/controlled?
Yes they do at the cost of being degenerates, I don't see why you would want that.

I think this is the most likely reality. I'm just experiencing potent attention from a woman and I'm having a typical psychological response to the new stimuli much like a teenager to his first girlfriend.

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God has sent you this degenerate skank to motivate you to kick yourself in the butt and go find a conservative woman.

This user is also right, we as people as humans want validation and she gave OP validation and he was thirsty for it

>34 year old tattoo'd roastie
>8/10
SAGE

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No 34 yo can be an 8/10

Just to clarify I meant her younger less experienced self would have been more fearful and clingy. Once a woman gets over this and realizes she can move on to the next thing, she doesn't have that healthy fear anymore which is bad from a reproductive view because women are not long term thinkers. And eventually the party will be over for them.

Both. Your dick tells you to throw it all away and get into that pussy. Your brain should tell you otherwise, but I know from experience that the brain has a huge disadvantage in fighting a flood of hormones. Try to stay strong and learn from other people's mistakes, I guess.

Well, attraction is certainly subjective.

>she displays none of the political or moral values that I hold as necessary to living a dignified and honorable life.
Neither do you. You are dating a leftist whore covered in tatoos who wants to be an open relationship and for you to be a cuck. Who are you to judge? beta.

sage

OP has herpes

How confident and strong are you, really? Firstly, you’re a drug addict, which is about the weakest thing one can be. Secondly, you hold moral values for others that you don’t hold yourself to, you’re in some kind of relationship with some drugged out, tattooed up hag, because that’s all you can get. Not only that, but you want a pure, clean woman while you yourself are the exact opposite (drug addict, total degenerate, no moral character etc) so maybe you’re just getting what you deserve. Also you’re doing all of this for someone who just isn’t that into you — you hear a woman use the term “open relationship”, you get the fuck away from her as fast as you can. But not you, you love it because you are extremely weak and have a complete lack of self confidence. Maybe try looking in the mirror and asking yourself why you’re such a horrible person

based

Character is built through experience, not through pondering. You are building your character as we speak, but probably it is indeed very weak.

All men have struggled with this, and it is precisely the profoundness of character that enables us to overcome this. Note that many great men have a weakness for women, too many philosophers to count have fallen from great heights just because of this.

LISTEN TO ME VERY CLOSELY, OP!

What you are experiencing is the turning of the tide in SMV! Pic related!
As you move from 25 to 35 women of the same age lose the only value they have: their youth and beauty. You however, become more advanced in your career as you age like wine!

DO NOT SETTLE FOR A WOMAN YOUR OWN AGE!!!
MARRY ONLY A 16-20YO GIRL AND ONLY IF YOU WANT KIDS: otherwise just spin girlfriends and lie to them that you want to date them to get to know them!

From 15-25 women have pissed on you, now its VITAL to make them pay the price AND NOT MARRY THE FIRST USED UP ROASTIE WHORE THAT GIVES YOU ATTENTION!

Get MGTOW redpilled! Search it on youtube.
The divorce rate is 50%! If you fuck up this will be your fate!

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10/10 feet
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all footfags will be exiled from the ethnostate

this.

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you've been deprived of female attention and your standards have been lowered.

Sex is the pillar of ocidental society. That s the main reason most people do anything. Untill their libido drops. Then true meanigshows up.

Claims to be fit and lift

Yet uses cocaine

Sounds like you’re not that serious and likely not that aesthetic brah

Im going through the same age as the OP.
Im 29: suddenly women your own age start flirting with you, but they have visible wrinkles, sagging breasts & their fertility is almost over.
Where the fuck were you 10 years ago when you were pretty and fertile? I would have married you then?
>I was sucking drugdealer Chads off in the club while giggling about bookworms like you
So sad to see what would have been my wife 100 years ago turned into a used up cumdumpster for random men. Ill never marry her though.

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>I am generally considered to be handsome by most people who meet me.

ugghhhhh shut the fuck up shut the fuck up shut the fuck up

i am so tired of this "i'm objectively 8/10 but a 28 year old virgin" trope jesus fuck how deluded are you people

It's a bitch mate and that only happens when you have limited options. If you had the option of her and another woman, willing to show you affection, the walls would fall down.

I empathise with your situation a lot mate. The only reason I can see your situation is that you are introverted with a less empathetic personality. I think you should join extra-curricular activities that force you to socialise more and learn to smile and laugh with strangers more.

Its completely possible.
Dont forget that women, in their twisted mentally ill minds, unironically think 93% of men are average or BELOW average in attractiveness.
Pic related.

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U sure about that statement?

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The feet improve her by 300%.

>22 years old dead

How's he doing these days?

RIP

It's easy to be an enlightened monk in a monastary. Hard mode is being part of everyday life and remaining so.

It's the same with principles and living with a woman. It is in their nature to test every inch of your resolve and ideals. That's how they test your strength as a man. And they will ruin you and theur own happiness if they discover you budge. They always cloak it in bullshit that they didn't mean bad.

Dat graph
Is accurate

Because you're too lazy to be the kind of man that a better woman would want.

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>I'm super duper moral guy who is better than everyone
>I might date some roastie with tattoos who is a drug addict
>I'm high on cocaine by myself

Canadians are so fucking dense.

god i want those feet in my mouth

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>Calling others degenerate
>Complaining that roastie is not "moral" like you
>Currently high on cocaine

You are just as trashy and worthless as your roastie haggard girlfriend.

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Love my wife,
Right wing, no tats, skinny, fat ass, big tits, black hair, blue eyes, no piercings, etc

Lmao at you cucks

>be me
>22
>getting back together with my hyper intelligent ex (21)
>she also used to be a roastie drug addict
>in order to end her roastie ways have to discuss all her previous traumas due to the failings of her parents
>was a "lesbian" for a long while
>never once cheated on me, I always check her phone and she never texts other men and never women sexually
>she wants to marry me and have my children
>still believes in abortion
>not a Christian
>very leftist

I know that feel, OP. I just left this qt non-roastie for her, I dont know why I allow myself to be slaved to women who when taken apart, I hate most of their individual characteristics. The only thing that this relationship has led to for me is alcoholism, frequent mastubation, and high stress. Shes very smart, and has a great personality apart from her horrible life choices and NPC worldview.

For me, I feel like women like this are typically damaged, and will leave you with a constant feeling of unease. If you don't get out soon, your view of the world and women is going to be fucked for a while. I have dated this girl off and on for nearly 4 years, and it still blows my mind that this incredibly intelligent and beautiful woman would suck loads of cock and tattoo her body and do drugs. It ruins the idea of women for you for a while. For example, "if my ex used to fuck random club dudes when she was 15, what does this other seemingly nice girl do?".

It's very easy to fall into the traps of "Oh I just dont care about relationships" or "Well I've fucked plenty of women as well", when the reality is you are trying to justify the situation to yourself when in reality you are just afraid of being lonely or are afraid of change.

Right now you have a nagging feeling of disgust whenever you think of her. That's your natural jnstinct telling you she is ruining your chances of genetic survival.

>tl:dr Don't trust fucking roasties
>especially if they are pretty and smart

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>This woman is a regular drug user, covered in tattoos and extreme leftist
>she displays none of the political or moral values that I hold as necessary to living a dignified and honorable life.
>I am very high on cocaine so my apologies

LOOOOOL Sounds like you're dating exactly who you deserve you coke snorting degenerate.

Moral values?
This guy wants to talk about "moral values" while high as fuck on cocaine.....
At 5am on a Friday morning
>Not
>Degenerate

IT'S FINE WHEN I DO IT!!!! >:^(

Stop being a faggot and stop seeing her you lonely cuck.
It depends how hot is she?
If a looker then its somewhat 2 and maybe even 3.
However given what information you've given so far in this thread this all seems to be 1 your a weak man who is desperate not because of a biological urge or loneliness, God knows there are other cures then beta orbiting a wall-hitting whore.
Your a weak SOB.
Seriously grow a spine.
To a certain extent yes and no.
We might have differences in what we see on the edges but we all know this is bullshit, you know how attractive she is but you don't care and are trying to make yourself feel better through deflection and by lying to yourself.

you sound like my friend who built his entire identity around fucking chicks. and now that he's past his partying days and still single he comes to me asking what to do about loneliness.

You're the same, you think you're cool for hitting this chick who you think has a modicum of respect, but she doesn't. She's terrified and laching onto young dumb retards like you to preserve her youth. Basically you're just a fucking retard

Chart is accurate. Men are only made attractive by what they say and do. It's rare for them to just be attractive.

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Feet posters please go away

What you've said makes sense, I'm in a similar situation right now. Without sounding too cliche, it's the comfort zone man. You're used to regular sex and feeling loved by someone. It's a totally natural feeling and, once you end it, provided you have a decent network of people to go out with or are prepared to go out and meet others, you'll feel fine.

You live in canada.
There is more males here, then women. FACT
The good looking females in canada are either married to someone decent they've been with since high school or they're a huge slut who has fucked more dick than she can count.
90% of females in canada are hard drug users as well.

It just sucks to be canadian.

Good chance she was molested or had sex with a family member as she was growing up as well.

>So sad to see what would have been my wife 100 years ago turned into a used up cumdumpster for random men. Ill never marry her though.

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you seem upset. also, don't ever respond to me again.

You’re both fucking autistic
That’s why you’re drawn to each other
Still, don’t let desperation cause you to get rid of your boundaries. Personally I would never agree to any kind of open relationship and the idea of persuading a lonely person to accept such a thing against their better judgement to me sounds manipulative and slightly cruel. At the very least, this girl is probably pretty full of herself/indifferent to others feelings if she thinks this is okay.

Dont tell me what to do

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>90% of females in canada are hard drug users as well.
like pills, heroin and coke?!

Everything you've said are talking about your feelings. Stop. You're letting your emotions have the driving seat.

Nothing is wrong with you except your assumptions.

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Mind Control through pheromones.

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The older and more experienced you get, the less it has an effect on you. The feeling never altogether goes away, but certainly you wouldnt turn your life upside down to sleep with a junkie

But then I never really understood the feeling of loneliness, and all of my relationships are characterized by an increasing burning need with every year to spend less time with the women im with, and more time alone

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