What would be the perfect currency?

One based on work. It is the definitive means by which the government creates wealth, after all, and the definitive judge of a government's efficiency. Everything else is for kikes and their serfs.

Meritocracy

we had the perfect system right up until someone got the funny idea that you cant own humans as property or some shit

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This or non-jewed fiat.

>money is printed instantly without bonds or anything like that
>money is injected into the economy by the government spending it
>statisticians and economists look at GDP and other information to find the ideal deficit/surplus and tell the government what they're allowed to spend
>if they want to spend more than that there needs to be a declared war or a state of emergency
>automatic tax cuts/increases too

gסld and silver doubloon
they actually hסld their currency value in asset
meanwhile a 100 dollar bill isn't worth 10 cent

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Fpbp

Modern currency, based off of "xyz" value based on the nation it comes from.

How would you create it though, in the sense that I can use it everyday? No offense, but it's a bit of a vague answer
>non-jewed
how tho
that's too human opinion based, soon economists would turn into (((economists)))
There are things which hold more real life value than gold and silver, their only value is based on human opinion. If you remove that, I'd much prefer food, water, electricity in the first place, or if we are talking about a large ammount of gold/silver for example a PC, a book, a shoe, etc.
Explain?

Nigger IQ points. Scarcity should increase value.

So is civilization/humanity not at it's precipice? The way we meet and do business is through... business, based on a common idea ((you want this I want that (which is a major interaction between nations)). Bitcoin is worth $ not gold.

>that's too human opinion based, soon economists would turn into (((economists)))
You could probably draw up an algorithm that could be used for decades. The office could be run by a Presidential appointee, and in order to make a decision the Secretary of the Budget would have to get the approval of a board of directors within the agency that serves staggered terms, like at the Fed; then the decision would need to be approved by committees or floor votes in both branches of congress. Pretty much every party would have the power to grind everything to a halt, so there would be a lot of pressure on anyone trying to game the system for more or less spending.

I primarily mean that the perfect currency should seek to represent human biological needs firstly, secondarily things that have genuine, concrete value, not abstract like gold. Pretty much the only value gold has to the average person is based on a human consensus which can theoretically at least break because of many reasons, unlike shoes for example which have a concrete value of needing them to cover your feet
Seems like it could work assuming a detailed design, altough I think you underestimate the ability for jewing in politicians.

Instead of portraits of historical figures, titties.

>currency should seek to represent human biological needs firstly
So says you subjectively? As a Socialist?

>secondarily things that have genuine, concrete value, not abstract like gold
Again subjective.

You're asking yourself the wrong question circling around the wrong thing, user.

Can't be created
Finite
Tangible

Like... Well, say, gold.

>Seems like it could work assuming a detailed design, altough I think you underestimate the ability for jewing in politicians.
If we have politicians who are jewing then that is its own problem. Once we get rid of democracy things will be much easier.

Completely wrong. Why is Toyota stock worth more than BMW?

this
> The only reason they're in any way superior to fiat is that they're limited by nature, but they still have no inherent value
its inherent value is that it's the only substance on earth that got all the traits of real currency.
why go all this distance on still an easily flawed and subverted system?
algorithms could easily be altered and nudged to benefit ((certian people)),all those "power blocks" exist in the system today and it doesn't stopped the powers to be to easily game it(because they designed it).
when on the other hand you got gold which can't be created out of thin air and has kept its value throughout all of human civilization.
there is a reason america was so eager to to jewout all of europe out of its gold during ww1 and 2 only to drop the gold standard shortly after.fiat always fail the dollar is only protected by americans ability to project its power all over the world and force everyone to trade oil in dollars.once this ability is lost everything comes crashing down and the people who own all the gold,real commodities and property(which we all willfully gave them for paper) will come on top.

>its inherent value is that it's the only substance on earth that got all the traits of real currency.

So what is currency?

>So says you subjectively? As a Socialist?
Not really subjective, given that without food or water you die, and without gold you don't. Obviously shoes, books, computers, etc. are not as high on that scale as food/water, but in comparison to gold they have much bigger practical use, and that's hardly subjective.
>Again subjective.
As I said, it is pretty objective that you need shoes more than gold as far as your actual needs go
>If we have politicians who are jewing then that is its own problem. Once we get rid of democracy things will be much easier.
>dictatorship gets subverted and jewish power times 100
But I supose we would drift offtopic if we discussed things like that. Have a good day, user
I made some arguments against gold in this thread. Also,
>Can't be created
Arguably, it would be good for it to be creatable by creating actual value, not just fiat bullshit backed purely by force
>its inherent value is that it's the only substance on earth that got all the traits of real currency.
These traits being? Also, you yourself have mentioned oil, why not use that?
>algorithms could easily be altered and nudged to benefit ((certian people)),all those "power blocks" exist in the system today and it doesn't stopped the powers to be to easily game it(because they designed it).
Agree with this however

Government fiat currency is the best. The Fed can control the amount in circulation. Governments can borrow indefinitely to pay for anything that is needed. Why would make a commodity, especially one that is fixed, be a currency? It's dumb. Search MMT. Yang 2020.

So when does the subjective become objective. I'm not going to spoon feed you, you retard.

Refer to my first post for clarification.

>bitcorn

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bitcoin is, honestly, the (((Them000 of finance, you should be into it if you're anybody.

Crypto

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>So when does the subjective become objective.
That's pretty much the point of this thread, to find a balance. When I say food is more valuable than gold, that is objective, given that you will die without food and not without gold, and we're trying to make a currency which serves humans. Unless you want to say that living itself isn't that valuable to humans, or you're making a currency for aliens. Also, your first post is very confusing and I have no idea what did you try to say
It's a step in the right direction, but still doesn't nearly perfectly represent actual human needs

whoops meant to say money and not currency.

the traits are a medium of exchange that is: portable,durable,divisible,fungible and its stores its value.
the only difference between money and currency is the last trait.
like i said the dollar loses all of its value once usa loses its military superiority all over the world.
while gold was always the monetary system that nations reverted back to after their fiat system failed(its has happened an enormous amount of times).
>These traits being? Also, you yourself have mentioned oil, why not use that?
because its not portable.

nick valentines dog!

the concept of bitcoin and the decentralized nature of it. I say concept because its has many layers of centralization to it as of now...

Monero

Serbia, there's a cold seat and a hot meal waiting for you at my dinner table. Were serving burgers... and fries.

Good luck

Fuck off Afghanistan

PEACE

>Fuck off Afghanistan
what the fuck are you even trying to convey?

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Pussy

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>while gold was always the monetary system that nations reverted back to after their fiat system failed(its has happened an enormous amount of times).
But it's still purely based on a human consensus, which is still better than relying on US power to back your currency, but that's not really a big intellectual achievement.
As I said, a step in the right direction, altough again it comes down to the fact that humans have much more value in physical things than in digital ones.
>Serbia, there's a cold seat and a hot meal waiting for you at my dinner table. Were serving burgers... and fries.
Better than eating gold I supose. Good luck to you too, I should also go and get some sleep.

gold and silver. but that is money not (((currency)))

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It's currently being competed for on the market. Vote with your capital, especially physical assets.

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Something fungible and infinitely divisible, able to transfer from one account to another instantaneously, independently of infrastructure like internet or electricity. Something like a cryptocurrency privacy coin that travels at the speed of light, hosted in the aether itself.

yet this thread and the world in general still failed to find a better alternative and this is where lie its
inherent value.

show flag, frindo or enemy.

Salt and spices are very good for currency
When society breaks down and you're eating raw rat meat to survive, you better fucking hope you got some salt and pepper.

stolen money. Communist logic

The physical currency matter vastly less than the monetary police that regulates, creates, and removes it.

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alternately,

Metallurgische Forschungsgesellschaft Schuldschein

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Niggers

rocks like the good ol days

i usually avoid using my flag when it has nothing to do with the content of my post so it doesn't get derailed.

Salt isn’t rare anymore like in ancient times.

I'd argue crypto is already better, but I agree it's hard to imagine that perfect currency, which is sort of the point of the thread.
Decent points tbqh
kek

you guiz are pissing off my gf. Hey man, though shall not bare false witness. You have something to say fucking say it, faggot.

Respect for showing your flag, Kikwald.

Not being physical is what makes it superior currency. I can't rip a $5 bill in half to divide it, and to transfer it across the world I need to pay and wait for it to get there. Digital cash is inherently more useful because of its nonphysical nature. Currency just represents wealth, it's just information. Physical information is extremely antiquated and unnecessary. Monero is pretty damn close to an ideal currency, and I'm not saying that as a Jow Forums shill

That raises privacy issues however, and arguably a dividable physical currency(inb4 like gold) would be the perfection

This. This is why our Constitution specifies that ONLY ONLY ONLY gold and silver are legal tender.

Checked, even though I disagree. I really have to sleep at this point, good bye to all

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Centralized Ass, pegged to the Shekel

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>Doesn't know that every gold standard ever established has failed

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Monero was designed to guarantee privacy when used correctly, there are no privacy concerns at all. Only a totally private currency can be truly 100% fungible. Gold is cool, except it's heavy and difficult to safely transfer over long distance, plus there's very little stopping someone from exchanging counterfeit gold with you. It's not exactly convenient to divide it with precision either. Gold is an antiquated store of wealth, I own some, but as far as an ideal currency goes it falls short of monero

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monero like shitcoin with a limited supply that can be mined/secured affordably with at least one miner in each home powered by solar. can also be used physically with a coin sized opendime

SKULLS

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Why do retards think gold is not fiat money and also noninflationary
> Spain finds gold veins in America
> literally flattens the economy because of surplus fiat
> mansa musa carries gold across Africa
> destroys economies in every city he visits because of surplus fiat

> Europeans simplify liquidity by allowing you to trade paper statements of gold you supposedly own
> bankers just sell off all the gold and keep trading the paper

Just because the gold standard was creepily replaced through govnerment confiscation and abolition doesnt make gold actually valuable or scarce.

It's a myth that just wont die, unfortunately.

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B..but, muh shiny rocks

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>SKULLS

Would be subject to wild fluctuations in value as demand for skull thrones rises and falls.

Introduce a two tier currency. One part consisting of our current fiat dollar, but used exclusively for institutional trade use. The second currency, would be a silver backed dollar issued from the Treasury. This would be used internally only. Retirement accounts could exchange up to 200K. To pay for the silver oil would be nationalized. Silver mines as well. All internal loans/credit using the new silver dollar would be based upon simple interest.

a bunch of napkins with smiley faces on them

time

awareness.
love
empathy

So has every fiat currency.

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We need to start over with the dollar.

Call it the "amero" or something.

Rules

1. Only 1 trillion ameros exist. No more. No less.

2. Every amero can be broken into 1000 "cents" . This means there is 1 quadrillion units of currency en total.

3. All amero units are backed by physical currency. Most people don't use cash all that much these days so most of that physical money will simply be stored in bank vaults etc. The important thing is the physical money is there if needed. No more making money from thin air.

4. Counterfeiting/exploiting/hacking/stealing/robbing money is made a crime punishable by death.

5. Interest rates on everything are locked at 1% forever.

6. Since I'm so fuckin smart and made the system I get 1 billion ameros and a handjob from taylor swift during the superbowl while everyone watches and gets super jelly.

This is still fiat currency but will be far more stable. The problem we got now is they keep making more and more dollars. It's absurd.

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a bucket of shit

a KFC bucket full of niggers' ears

Checked

But the north american union /amero horseshit is not going to benefit you.

Gold standards are fiat, my dude. Fiat means "govt dictated" not "fake". Every gold standard has carried with it a declared value. Ex. $32/oz

Yangbucks

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Gold-pressed Latinum

The U.S. Dollar.

Everything else is meme.

The metaphysical concept of shame

soon

One not structured on mass debt would be a good start

Latinum

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I wonder who could be behind this.