Space travel is the biggest fucking meme ever. Its just a wet dream for aspies and gay 60s sci fi writers

nope you're a fag that doesn't understand the potential of zero point based tech

It's our nature to reach outward, OP. I'd much rather us reclaim the planet and superintend it properly, but we'll also always try to explore space, because it's out there.

Why not just build ships that travel slowly and assemble human beings when they've reached their destination? C'mon man, we don't really need to travel very fast if human mortality isn't a problem.

>To get a mere 10 light years at this utterly impossible speed would take 100 years

Same old tired unoriginal argument. It's not about how fast we can go, but how long we can live. Life extension through genetic engineering/splicing is very realistic and right around the corner. Once humans start living for 1000 years a 100 year journey will mean nothing. Even if our speed never increases, our age always will. Humans who live for one million years will colonize many, many, solar systems.

Elon Musk wants to put a colony on mars, not go outside the solar system. Also, when the fuck did you become the universe's leading authority on the laws of physics? You don't shit and don't even want to try to learn. Personally I think we need a biological and spiritual evolution before we can advance any further.

That's actually deviously clever. You can spam those colony ships everywhere, once the genome is mastered perfect beings can be raised by androids or on instinct. Id be surprised if this isn't already a book

Star Trek nerds on suicide watch

>shown to work in simulations
the absolute state of fedoras

With life-extension tech, we might be able to just settle other planets ourselves

I believe it will be possible one day. However, what is really the point of colonizing other planets? I am thinking of the feeling I get when I'm playing a strategy game and start steam rolling the cpu, it's not fun anymore. I want humans to find aliens most of all. That would be worth seeing.

>Only 1000 years
Weak. Upload yourself to a galaxy-wide information network and live past the heat-death of the universe

Your math(s) is a little off. c = about 670 million miles per hour. So 10% of c = 67 million miles per hour. Your point still holds of course.

What about generation ships? One with enough resources and population for a number of generations to live and die in deep space before arriving at the destination?

More raw materials. Less chance of being wiped out by a sufficiently large asteroid or a gamma ray burst or a wandering black hole.

I prefer ships with an immortal crew

it's an old idea in scifi, seed ships.

agreed

I've been saying this for ages, no one wants to listen

Modern tech is shite, we need to open the past, it's all already been done before in much simpler more effective ways.

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We need to make big space lasers powered by a significant percentage of our suns's energy output to push cargoes up to interstellar speed

user... we already have problems with overpopulation.
soon there will be 8 billion people on this planet.
the resources simply don't exist to sustain everyone indefinitely while still breeding.
IF functional immortality is possible, and that's a big if, it will by necessity be hoarded by a small group of people with the resources to maintain it.

>no one wants to listen to my cynical defeatist opinion
That's a good thing. Go bury your head in the sand and let the hopeful people work.

Any aliens we meet in the local galactic neighbourhood will be descendants from colonies set up by passed-away human super-civilizations

glow niggers can hire me, I want 200k year with my own lab and ability to work remote and 6 weeks vacation.

It will eventually be sold by mega-corporations to the general public once it can be mass-produced because it's always more profitable to sell to the masses than to a limited pool of rich people.

I preach it not so much for defeatism but for you guys to pull your head's out of your assholes and to focus on this world and the here and now
Our world is a literal jewel and our Eden, if we make it unlivable and spess travel is impossible then that's it, the boomer mentality of thinking everything will be fixed by posterity destroyed the human species

Population is going to crash hard soon. Western and Asian birth rates are going down, Africa will follow suit once it's sufficiently industrialized. At this rate no one will have enough people to sustain their economies, that's why they are pushing for open borders and mass migration. Don't worry about population, worry about China destroying the environment and anti-biotic immune super viruses decimating us.

>FTL
is impossible

Duly noted but shitposting on Jow Forums is more of a hobby than anything to take serious

I see no reason why that rule can't be broken

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I'm going to be completely honest with you, that's where you're wrong. You see you're thinking in terms of dimensions that the globalists have framed for you. You're not thinking about the possibilities of space travel through >3 dimensions, as opposed to linear travel across a three-dimensional plane, which is where they want you to be at.

We already have the technology to do > 3-dimensional travel across the space-time continuum. You don't even need to get into a space ship or leave orbit. It's all here in our minds, serviced by the perfect feat of engineering created by the Divine. We are in essence the God particle come into conscious form, with the most advanced cognitive functions in a billion years of genetic evolution..

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We can't rely it being broken though, so it would be foolish to assume it will be while planning for the future

Earth has a finite amount of time left. If if the ozone layer or magnetic field doesn't blow away the earth will eventually be swallowed by the dying sun. So why not try?

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Based and redpilled

It's not a meme, it's a goal. We don't need to send manned ships by the way.

The Space Travel meme accommodates the idea of one-world, post-scarcity governance. It's disastrous.

>what are wormholes
you can possibly create a method of traveling less space than by higher speed

We either master the creation O’Neill cylinders or we go extinct, it’s as simple as that.

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You still need to move one end of the wormhole physically
Using that method we might be able to make an FTL infrastructure given astronomical amounts of time, but settling new systems is still going to happen at a relative crawl

>Even getting from Earth to Mars, practically nothing in galactic terms, would take all our skill and ingenuity.
Two hundred years ago traversing the Atlantic was a perilous journey that took months to complete, the Concorde could do it in about 3.5 hours.
At this point you could probably compare us to the vikings, it took all their skill and ingenuity to reach America but they succeeded.
Now I don't think we'll ever see anyone travel beyond our solar system during our life time, but unless the jews and niggers drag us back to the stone age I'm sure that one day man will travel to distant stars - and a rudimentary colony on Mars isn't all that unlikely in the next decades.

Oh, it will happen. You know it will, too. You're just bitter that you'll be long dead before it does, so you're trying to convince yourself, and others, that it's impossible. Best thing is to just kill yourself.

>its hard therefore its not worth trying
JFK would have a word with you

until our sun swallows it in a supernova

Space travel may be a meme, but space colonization is not.
All you need to do is freeze embryos and protect them with lots of shielding while you transfer them to a target destination. Then once they're at their destination you use an artificial womb to birth them and an AI to raise them as children. All you need is humans who are long-term thinkers than short-term ones.

>finite amount of time
>a billion+ years
lol
I agree tho.
We need to try.

>absolutely no one considers the philosophical implications of the space travel meme
Its a breeding ground for materialist utiopianism.

Honestly, the alcubiere drive exists, it requires antimatter, but we can make that now too, all we need to do is learn to mass produce antimatter, and boom, ftl

Ftl will be created in the next 20 years, it has already been invented

niggers believe that they can simply run away from a problem with technology stagnating it is impossible for a future where humanity is a space civilization after all we failed the great filter we can't protect our own species when we allow niggers and asians to kill us and have traitors hoarding resources for their own personal gain for humanity to go into space it needs to become better

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>discussing space travel in imperial units
>not even getting the basic constants right

Wow anglos sure are retarded

>Leaf

Ok - so you work on some sort of gas mining rig on Jupiter.

On earth, if you drop a tool you might be able to catch it. Our reaction speeds are quick enough to perceive the tool falling and stick our hand out to catch it.

Gravity on Jupiter is just shy of 2.5x than that of earth (9.81m/s^2 vs. 24.79m/s^2).

That means things accelerate 2.5x faster. The human body did not evolve to react to things that accelerate under a heavier gravity. Also, you will weigh 2.5x as much. So a 175lb healthy male now weighs 440lbs.

Human physiology is meant for Earth because we evolved on it. If we are to survive on other planets they're going to need to be almost the same as earth.

Human unification only happens in guess what fiction if you honestly believe there wouldn't need a big change in human society in order to compete with galactic civilizations that have a loyal population with great leaders instead of humans today corrupted leaders with a population getting replaced

Sun won't supernovae
It will swallow a few planets for sure when it expands into a red dwarf, but that won't matter when our population is spread across habitats as far away as the oort cloud anyways.
We won't even have to worry about that if we can build a dyson sphere to harvest mass from the sun

300,000,000 metres per second bucko

our sun won't go supernova, it's mass is to small. It'll swell into a red giant that will consume the earth then all the gas will be expelled into space and what will be left is a white dwarf, but don't worry that won't happen for a few billion years.

Based and energypilled

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Gravity decreases the farther away we get from it's sources center if I'm not mistaken
We won't be living on Jupiter, we'll be living on orbital rings surrounding Jupiter. If we need to live on Jupiter, we can use centrifugal force to balance out the gravity.

>Getting outside the solar system is basically impossible and ultra-wealthy clowns like Elon Musk either a) know this and are conning the general public or b) utterly deluded richboy fantasists.

Elon is primarily a salesman. The projects he works on are mostly invented before most of us were born. Technology is now sufficient and affordable to make it happen with relative ease. But to the point, if you want to raise capital for launching boring-old satellites, you have to sell people on going to Mars and so on. Then the money flows in for those big projects and you spend it on those little projects, which you marketed as stepping stones, but they were the main goal. If you can keep getting money, then sure, go to the moon and mars, but you will have to market those as stepping stones to something bigger than that.

everything is temporary user, including your life

I've come to accept the inevitability of death, you should too. you're never going to get out of it alive.

Beautiful

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FTL is possible but it's not really you moving faster than light it has to do with "frame dragging" I believe, where you don't move, but you compress the space in front of you and expand the space behind you...so you move space faster than the speed of light, but you never actually move in space faster than light.

are you retarded? You do realize we haven't discovered everything already, right? a hundred years ago we used large animals to travel around on, today its mass produced machinery. Thats just over the course of 100 years, thats like 1 life and 1/3.

You have to be a pants shitty moron to think that this is the best its going to get. IBM just unveiled its new quantum computer for commercial purposes, in 500 we will probably have teleportation or something and itll make spaceships obsolete.

>3,000,000 x 60 = 180,000,000 miles per minute. Multiply that by 60 to give you a miles per hour figure, 10,800,000,000 miles per hour (10 billion + 800 million) and that's just ten percent of the speed of light.
Burger education at it's finest.

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>teleportation
He doesn't know, guys.

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teleportation can't make information travel faster than light. Its literally no different to trying to make a spaceship go faster.

Frame dragging has a mass requirement, usually on the scale of black holes. That's if I recall correctly.

>saying "maths" when you're only using one form of math, simple arithmetic.

quantized inertia, solves the dark matter meme and gives us reliable propulsion

yeah the energy required is so massive that I don't think we'll ever get to that level

you dont need to travel faster than light, even at 10% we could cross the entire galaxy before earths oceans boil off

BAAAAAAASED AND REDPILLEDDD

For what it's worth, it's only just been invented, over time people will make the idea more efficient

I reckon that the quickest way forward into space travel is for miners and journalists to learn to code. So much computing power is available to the typical person, yet it mostly sits idle because there are relatively few useful software applications. With more automation, people could focus on solving more problems, like the multitude of space-related ones. The interest is there, but when people are doing robot's jobs for 12h/day, it's going to take much longer than it needs to.

>quantum entanglement

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You’re a fool to think you can imagine what we don’t yet know. There are more secrets to the universe friend, as evidence look at all our models and projections and theory’s about how the universe formed and expands. We are missing data, and we don’t know why, the theory of relativity does not explain for the lack of observable mass in the universe and that means we still don’t know everything.

yeah, let's just stay at home and jerk off and smoke dope.

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Fpbp.

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>Space travel is the biggest fucking meme ever.
Most of what you take for granted, things like electric light, central heating, the automobile, heavier than air flight, radio, TV, etc were considered utter fantasy 200 years ago, if they were even imagined at all.

>Getting outside the solar system is basically impossible

Stop. Just fucking stop. Pioneer 10 is currently 120 AU from the Solar System. Voyager 1 passed the heliopause at 121 AU on 25 August 2012 to enter interstellar space. Good lord.

>OOGAH BOOGAH FLYING-TREE CRABALOCKER TICKLEHEAD
You have to go back.

>quantum entanglement
...doesn't transmit information faster than light.

That's precisely what it's marketed as. Of course, QE is just publish-count shit in my opinion, but it does necessitate either mundane time travel or instantaneous communication. It's hand-wavy junk, similar to magic and gods.

>information

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>we can't into space with our current technology, it's over hurrr

Technology advances you dolt.

Take a look at this ATT commercial from 25 years ago that shows our future.

youtu.be/tQan_CQsqCM

I was alive back then it and all this blew my mind. Now all that tech is common and some things we even surpassed expectations because of how much we advanced. Now think 100 years forward. Humans probably won't even be in their current forms. We'll be cyborgs and/or genetically enchanced before we are born to be smarter, stronger and have higher IQs to create even more crazy shit we didn't think was possible like fast interstellar travel.

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Jupiter has too much radiation. You're thinking of Saturn.

Like the EM drive. Some jackalope built it. NASA tested it and found that it does produce thrust, but the current rulebook on physics says it can't. New physics time.

They used to say it would take the mass energy equivalent of Jupiter, now they say a small moon

You're thinking within the paradigms of current humans.

>but thousands of years would be soo fucking boring!
A heavily genetically engineered human wouldn't give a fuck. It wouldn't be afraid, bored, or even question its purpose. You also ignore the law of exponential growth. 1 becomes 2, 2 becomes 4, soon enough you have billions becoming trillions.

Once a SINGLE ship that focuses on self-improvement and self-replication is launched the entire universe will be doomed to total human infection.

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Eventually, they'll say "That's no moon."
Still though. Converting a moon to energy is nothing to sneeze at.

If interstellar travel is possible, it will likely be done with generation ships or wormholes. We won't be accelerating ships to the speed of light or even to a significant fraction of the speed of light.

We will fold space.

Although, you're right. I don't think we'll actually achieve this. Maybe we would have if Hitler had won the war.

m.youtube.com/watch?v=94ed4v_T6YM

A Mexican would lead us to the space soon niggers

Every. Single. Religion. Is. Bullshit.