>If Bismarck had succeeded in germanizing the Poles, both world wars could have been prevented
Discuss.
If Bismarck had succeeded in germanizing the Poles, both world wars could have been prevented
Julian Walker
Jack Peterson
germany needs to be gassed asap if we want to prevent the 4th reich known as eu
discuss
Noah Powell
>If jews never interfered in WW1, the US didn't enter and remained isolationist significantly reducing it's cultural impact it has today, Germans won WW1 and got their desired territories, the White Army won the Russian civil war, the world would be a much better place
Discuss
Juan Parker
I don't like this idea.
Cooper Adams
Doubt it.
The nature of the European empires grappling for supremacy would've lead to war eventually, regardless of the reason
Julian Evans
>Bismarck had succeeded in germanizing the jews
yep....
Luis Flores
>Poles
and Bohemians, and Danes, and French, and Lithuanians, and Russians etc etc.
Get lost you idiot. Go prep ur wife's bull you cuck fuck.
Joseph Walker
I don't share your opinion but would give my life for your right to express it.
Kevin Miller
>4th reich
ide say more of a commie globalist uprising more than the 4th reich, but yes west germany specifically needs to be gassed.
Cameron Cruz
The English elite began planning the First World War in 1890. The removal of Bismarck was the first step in this plan. I'd wonder what bribe did they give to Kaiser to have him removed from office?
Lincoln Rivera
The U.S. Entry to ww1 is arguably the most influential decision of the 20th century.
Lefty ideologues ruin everything.
Luis Reyes
Poles are subhuman and can't be germanized
Matthew Gonzalez
Could Bismarck have done that? Poland was Russian controlled at the time.
Elijah Kelly
>Poles were pretty much Germanized
>They had no in fluency whatsoever on ww2
>Germans living in Poland were the exact reason for ww2
Connor King
>The U.S. Entry to ww1 is arguably the most influential decision of the 20th century.
Yep, especially since it turned the U.S. from a more isolationist nation into what it is today, and it was the tipping point of WW1, without Americans the Central Powers would have won. If I'm not wrong the US entered the war in exchange for the Balfour decleration after zionists entered the British war cabinet in October 1916
Noah Anderson
>The nature of the European empires
>not the nature of capitalism
>t. Murrifat
Owen Thompson
And without which, our greatest ally in the mid-east, wouldn't exist.
Ethan Perez
>The English elite began planning the First World War in 1890
This proves Ireland and Germany are natural allies.
Caleb Garcia
>and supported by gallant allies in Europe.
Proclamation of Irish Independence 1916.
Aaron Wright
>Germans want to see other Europeans suffer
>water is wet
>the sky is blue
Hudson Murphy
>if this culture had just subjugated themselves to a foreign people everything would have been just fine
How very German of you.
David Williams
>Brits
>European
AIDF detected. Nice try.
Jaxson Miller
>Poland
>culture
PIDF detected. Nice try.
Lincoln Stewart
If the Romans would have just genocided the Jews the west would be a better place.
Anthony Perry
It would have happened anyways. The powers that were back then wanted this wars.
Robert Wood
those wars
Samuel Gonzalez
>If Bismarck had succeeded in germanizing the Poles
Actually, Germans were pretty successful in this, more successful than Russians or Austrians
But on the other hand, Poles polonized Germans as well
Nathaniel Hill
"If the Romans HAD genocided...."
We speak English here, Pedro. Learn it.
Lucas Miller
>Doesn't know about the khazars
Isaiah Baker
No. The Eternal Anglo was out for Aryan blood and the Eternal Amerijew always wanted to divide and weaken Europe aswell. It was never about Poland. Also: the Freemasons were behind both world wars. The actual Nazis wrote so themselves. archive.org
Juan Barnes
They are. If WW1 had been won by Germany, a unified and independent Ireland would have been the result.
Henry Powell
>doesn't know Khazar """"theory""" is a bunch of complete nonsense
Bentley Walker
GDANSK JEST IS ZAWSZE BEDZIE POLSKIE
Andrew Lee
What I said is proper English. Learn the fucking language before you correct people.
Isaac Green
>GDANSK JEST IS ZAWSZE BEDZIE POLSKIE
Anthony Thomas
There is no "would" in conditional if-clauses, you dumb cunt.
No wonder Trump loves the poorly educated.
Nolan Jackson
Ile jeszcze będziecie płakać?
Juan James
The US had no choice but to enter. German bombing in the Atlantic as well as perfidity from the Eternal Kraut with respect to its mien towards Mexico meant that: 1) the Germans considered hegemony in Europe to be their long-term goal (a no-no for the US), and 2) the Germans considered it acceptable to violate the Monroe Doctrine (a big ol' no-no for the US).
You can talk about how hypocritical the US is or how much its ruled by Jews, but at the end of the day, Germany just didn't play ball. The UK, France, and even Spain had all accepted that the US was top-dog in the western hemisphere and that attempting to interfere in the western hemisphere would trigger hostility from the US. Germany was the sole retard in the room that thought the US wasn't actually serious when it laid down the Monroe Doctrine.
Jaxon Rodriguez
If British (((banking interests))) hadn't sabotaged Germany's telegraph cables and propagandized war information to America, then Germany would have eventually steamrolled the Frogs and Limeys. Germany would install ANOTHER German monarch on UK's throne and probably France too and the world would be better off today as we rode in racially pure 21st century airships.
Adam Smith
>The UK, France, and even Spain had all accepted that the US was top-dog in the western hemisphere
Yeah but it WASN'T top dog at all before they ENTERED WW1, an important distinction. They only started their interventionism and getting into everyone's business at all at the rate they did after WW1
Juan Bennett
I wonder (((who))) could be behind this post.
Lincoln Ramirez
We literally finished kicking out Spain in 1898. Britain and France had long made territorial concessions to the US in the hemisphere. The Monroe Doctrine itself was codified in 1823. Germany simply didn't take things on face value. They thought they could project their influence into the hemisphere and that the US would just accept it.
They got burned, hard. German autism is a truly terrible curse.
Brandon Fisher
If emperor was not retarder and actually followed Bismarck plan to befriend Russians we would now live in glorious European empire. But no...he turned to British which failed big time
Carter Edwards
>perfect-english-grammar.com
1: Part of the third conditional.
If I had had enough money, I would have bought a car (but I didn't have enough money, so I didn't buy a car).
2: Because 'would' (and will) can also be used to show if you want to do something or not (volition), we can also use would have + past participle to talk about something you wanted to do but didn't. This is very similar to the third conditional, but we don't need an 'if clause'.
I would have gone to the party, but I was really busy.
(= I wanted to go to the party, but I didn't because I was busy. If I hadn't been so busy, I would have gone to the party.)
I would have called you, but I didn't know your number.
(= I wanted to call you but I didn't know your number, so I didn't call you.)
A: Nobody volunteered to help us with the fair
B: I would have helped you. I didn't know you needed help.
(= If I had known that you needed help, I would have helped you.)
Kys
Bentley Sanders
My statement still stand correct, US involvement in WW1 ruined things for everyone, especially since they extended their cultural reach
Liam Torres
You can argue that, but it wasn't the Jews who got us involved. Blame the Germans for their hubris and for violating our sphere of influence.
Elijah Wood
You stupid fucking retard. You dumb mongoloid mutt. None of the tard examples you used contain an if-clause. You absolute fucking niggerburger.
YOU HAVE TO GO BACK.
Joseph Martin
No you wouldn't.
Grayson Wilson
so you want inferior polaco genes to be part of the german nation?
the Führer would rotate
Jason Reed
If ifs and buts were candy and nuts we'd all have a merry christmas. Who fuckin cares.
Colton Myers
peruano puto gato
Sebastian Howard
The Anglo sphere of influence was what got the US involved more than the sphere of influence the US had, because it was small
Also
>what is the Balfour declaration
en.wikipedia.org
Kevin Bailey
based satan appears with his accurate yet tangentially disturbing revelation
Henry Watson
He refused to absorb danes into the empire. He never wanted to assimilate poles though he wanted european perpetual peace to avoid whites slaughtering eachother over borders.
Parker Lewis
That poster isn't about Poles
Ayden Smith
no onions peruano mi amigo, sólo estudiando un semestre aqui
Christopher Turner
Why don‘t you become a Pole then if that‘s so easy to switch your ethnicity.
Kayden Gray
A nonsense "theory" started by Jews too.
Matthew Bailey
buen intento, quién en su sano juicio iría a p*ru?
Liam Perry
The US sphere of influence was the entire western hemisphere, which Germany repeatedly violated with its Atlantic campaign and industrial sabotage in American cities. I get that Eastern Euros are, on average, retarded and don't understand how empires work, but you shouldn't violate one's sphere of influence and not expect to get your shit kicked in.
Spain gave the US's sphere of influence a vaguely dirty look and were completely ejected from the hemisphere for it. It's mind-boggling how Germany thought they could get away with even asking Mexico to ally with them against the US and not think it would trigger a yank chimpout.
Jordan Anderson
holandés, mi motivación era un estipendio de mi universidad que tiene cooperación en Lima, son casi 1000 € por mes que es mucho aqui (la vida es bien barata aqui)
Oliver Taylor
>The US sphere of influence was the entire western hemisphere
Yes western HEMISPHERE so NOT Europe like it was after the war, and I highly doubt they had their sphere of influence in South America before WW1
>but you shouldn't violate one's sphere of influence and not expect to get your shit kicked in.
So then we should let the jews' sphere of influence exist freely and grow freely?
Just show your American flag
Jaxson Taylor
And research the Balfour declaration while you're at it
Jack Evans
Typical kraut thinks he knows everything.
Christopher Perry
Germanizing the p*L*s is like pouring cologne to a shit.
Jackson Jones
>implying whites dont get killed and sold to the slave market in peru
peruvian police disappears people and they arent held accountable
Aaron Price
estoy aqui desde hace 3 meses y nada pasó (pero no salgo de las zonas "seguras")
Charles Smith
It's the German elites and jewish elites who are at fault for the EU, and Americans as well
Josiah Thomas
>Why don‘t you become a Pole then
Plungers don't suit me.
Bentley Gonzalez
>Germany was the sole retard in the room that thought the US wasn't actually serious when it laid down the Monroe Doctrine.
Nolan Williams
WW1 was caused by a conflict between Austria-Hungary and Serbia
WW2 was caused mostly by unfair reparations imposed on Germany and rising fear of communism
Poles had nothing to do with either
Hunter Peterson
un *rg*nt*n*
Lincoln Jackson
Samuel Bennett
>>Germans living in Poland were the exact reason for ww2
You're way over Jow Forums's head there, user.
Germany was absolutely bursting at the seams with excess population in the late19th and early 20th c.
>That fucking success with sanitation, medicine, and industrialized agriculture that you'd expect Germs to do well.
However, East Prussia was traditionally German after, especially after the Crusades cleansed the area of Balts, Poles, and Slavs.
Overall you know this, I doubt 1 in 50 on Jow Forums does.
Colton Sullivan
You were supplying Britain with ammunition and hiding it in civilian vessels. That alone justifies Germany's Atlantic campaign.
Cameron Martinez
Prior to that, Germany had already begun a campaign of espionage against the US. This preceded 1914.
They had originally wanted Japan to invade the US.
Mexico and the Zimmerman Telegram were actually an afterthought, merely a conduit for Japanese aggression on the US West Coast, and in German eyes, hopefull through Texas and the old SouthWest.
Germans really are diplomatically retarded. Except for one.
Cooper Ward
>Germany was absolutely bursting at the seams with excess population in the late19th and early 20th c.
because Dumbmany has an authoritarian family system
Jose Jackson
>no mention of Balfour declaration
Show Israeli flag, kike
Jayden Martin
Based af but germany was a very young country and was between 3 country which had the total supreme over spying. Ofc was Germany the dumb young one in the room they didn't had the time like france,UK or russia.
Evan Wilson
You and the guy you are arguing with are both wrong.
U.S. Involvement in ww1 was a catastrophe because it gave the Entente (England/France) the upper hand nescisary to impose Versai, an unfair peace which laid the foundation for ww2. Without Amercian support, the powers would have likely fought until total destruction where neither alliance could impose an unfair peace on the other. Wilson thought he could create a perfect world via the 14 points, essentially proto globalism, especially considering his disdain for the U.S. Constitution. After seeing the disaster unfold in Europe the American public became harshly anti war and isolationist up until the Pearl Harbor attacks in 1941.
Christian Adams
>if
Robert Murphy
Austrian capitalists tried hard to prevent the war. I don't know about other countries, but Austrian capital saw a war as disastrous to their interests.
Dominic Davis
And then the Soviets removed all of eastern european culture, while the Americans removed western european culture. Look how great that turned out.
Connor Ramirez
The Tsar was promised Constantinople if he allied with England and France. Sucker, it was a promise that they never intended to keep.
Henry Flores
>Versailles
Also, the Entente had lost the war. It was just a matter of Germany continuing on with the blood-letting. They had won in the east and had an insurmountable military lead until the US formally stepped in.
Had the US observed neutrality, they would have won in 1916-17, but there was a full-blown Depression on and war profits had pulled the US out of it. Wilson hated it and while he as an Elite fool, he also wanted to stop War Profiteers (which would have handed Germany the victory).
He coulnd't though because Congress would have revolted and he would never win another term.
Adrian Nguyen
>German victory
doubtful, shit was hitting the fan on the homefront in Germany independent of the situation at the front and revolts were brewing, they definitely would have gotten much more favorable peace terms without US involvement but I think the best they would've been able to accomplish was an even stalemate
Camden Sullivan
>would've been able to accomplish was an even stalemate
That was impossible and why the Entente would not accept terms.
Germany held French and Belgian territory. No international recognition of status quo ante would have been recognized by any conceivable body. Everyone would expect the Germans to either hold territory or receive massive tribute to withdraw.
As it was, the Entente was signal-boosted by the United States, who then bowed out at the last minute after the war, leaving the atrocity of Versailles and Round 2.
Germany was able to marshall offensive power in the West and the Entente wasn't, not even with US industrial and financial support.
Withdraw that support, and Germany not only wins, they conquer all of France. France was at collapse. It wasn't a matter of getting some extra territory. It was a matter of complete annihilation of the ability to fight, which the Entente was at (again without US help.)
Robert Lewis
He’s not wrong though.. it was a city created by a Polish king
Isaac Roberts
That poster is German skinheads, not Poles. They don’t even look close
Dylan Gray
Hungary should be in blue, not red
Brayden Brown
tak, znasz się lepiej od kurwa profesora, który to badał milion razy, spierdalaj
Easton Edwards
>haha some people don't conform to 2019 commercial ideals of beauty.
Austin King
americans sold to both sides in the beginning m8. when the deutschland submarine arrived in baltimore (1916 mind) the crew were celebrities. germany objectively screwed it up with america.
Hunter Stewart
Wow wtf is going on we have real people here?
Asher James
But Bismarck look like a pole, look like a baltic.
Lincoln Reed
Bump