How does Yang plan to pay for the 1,000 neetbucks a month, hmmmmmm?

>who is going to pay for it
is a low iq argument.

Who payed for wall street bailout, who pays for the military industrial complex?

The problem with UBI is it will create an even greater divide between rich and poor. The poor will become even lazier, not having to do absolutely anything to survive. The rich get a new cash cow - poor retarded people with a guaranteed monthly income. Imagine all the loans that will be taken out for TVs, iPhones etc.

Landlords, lenders, corps ... they can really start to farm the livestock with UBI.

mexico will pay for it.

>we're going to tax you $2000 just to give you $1000
leftists are absolutely retarded.

Easy bankrupt gun companies

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Jow Forumss enemy and the lefts enemy is the same enemy.
Tax the rich.

tax the shit out of koch and bezos and adelson

All yang shills will get to eat my poooo

It doesnt matter.
Trump will win.

Ancient Chinese secret

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>Guns are more deadly than cars
Prove it

Quantitative Easing. Instead of giving money to the banks at 0% interest give it to the citizens at 0% interest. You'd still have to pay it back, but if we're going to have retarded policies like QE at least let the citizens get the first bite at the apple.

Also Yang is a nigger and should be lynched.

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>guns are more dangerous than cars

I thought Chinks were supposed to be intelligent?

I'm ready guys!! where is my neetbux™ at?

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STOP ASKING QUESTIONS

YANG GANG AM I RITE MY FELLOW PEDES?

> Kike detected
You are a fucking JEW if you spend $20,000 every month on goods. Leave Jow Forums immediately.

POINT TOOLIE AT DRUMPF - BANG BANG
GET DAT MONEY BAG - IM YANG GANG

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Israel wont allow zero taxes though, that status is only reserved for the chosen few like jeff bezos.

Out of the 10% you'll be paying to amazon (indirectly me).

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Genuine question for MIGAtards: If you DON'T like UBI how do you envisage a realistic scenario where in the future robots do all the shit jobs and humans just do what they want to do and/or fulfilling jobs?
Because at the moment those millions newly unemployed will all be heading onto Socialist welfare.

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The money we give in foreign aid wouldnt come anywhere near covering this you retard

Of course not silly. But it's a start. You are ok with cutting off aid to foreign countries right? That's what I thought.

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>How does Yang plan to pay for the 1,000 neetbucks a month, hmmmmmm?
He doesn't

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he doesn't - because he knows it will never be law

Turtleman will make sure it never comes to a vote in the Senate.

that meme fucking killed me

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>t.no response
MIGAtards want actual socialism to spread.

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>retarded berniebro doesn't understand how a VAT works and believes it's going to tax the 1%
Just remember, no refunds!

to be fair if we used guns to get to work everyday there would be a lot more gun deaths

>giant leftist automating corporations like Amazon are da 1%
Yang isn't running on a Communist "workers unite and kill the rich White men goy" platform. The opposite infact.

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Who cares it doesn't work.
In Britain we have UC (universal credit) which tops up a loan.
For instance where I live a small house 2 bedroom for small family costs £900 a month plus £200 council tax. Heating £50, electric £50 and water sewage £50 a month. That wipes out a standard £9-£10/hours wage in full. He needs to support his family an extra £700+ to survive at basic levels.
All that happens is as soon as the help goes up market forces raises rent. So the only ones that benefit are landlords who just so happen to be the politicians and advisors or those with invested interest. Wages never raise at the same rate as rent increases anyway so the people become more enslaved to a particular party that champions free money.

This is the worst possible thing to do, but alas there are more thick dossers than hard working folk so we are doomed. Hey ho.

They can just print more ZOG bucks. It is not like it is actually based on anything.

jokes on you there's going to be a legitimate race war to claim the territory of Atzlan just as soon as the next large Market Correction hits. gonna be time to wonder about clean water and a bit of grub pretty soon. beans, bullets, band-aids are gonna be the highly coveted items rather than United States Aircraft Carrier Group Shekels.

would advise staying the FUCK out of southern california and the SW in general in the next 5 years. don't think for a fucking moment that these people don't know about the events of 1848, don't think for a goddamn moment that they aren't bitter as all hell and coming over in droves. young men are the ones that fight when things get nasty- they won't sit and lose their homes or starve. they'll take the closest natty guard armory with 10 cholos with rifles- one dumbass homegrown Jihadi motherfucker killed 17 soldiers at Fort Hood last decade. with a goddamn shotgun, don't think that military installations are all like fucking GTA.

ya'll are worrying about the exact wrong things.

That is literally how things work now with welfare.

If they get rid of welfare and give everybody 1000, whites win out bigly.

you're the retard for not being able to grasp progressive taxationj

if a 10% VAT causes you to pay an extra $2k per month in taxes, then by definition you are spending $20k on goods per month and thus make $240k annually
kwik maffs

with boomer tears

Still better than slowly starving or becoming homeless after you lose your job to automation.

>ignores that middle-class consumers will be the majority paying the VAT at the checkout
>we'll give you $1000 for """"free"""" but just tax you $2000 at the checkout

Massage parrors foh erryone

what part of "universal" failed to register?

but the money we give in foreign aid, and the money we spend on foreign wars, and the money we waste policing world politics, and the money that everyone involved is stealing at every step of the process would. i would ask you to add all that up, but it's literally impossible to do so, since no one has any idea how much money they're stealing, but i point you to "the pentagon says it has lost 11 trillion dollars" as a clue of just how bad it actually is.

nevermind let's just keep doing the same old shit. i'm sure it'll work out.

>we'll give you $1000 for """"free"""" but just tax you $2000 at the checkout
Are you legitimately braindead?

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(((The rich)))

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Just like Obama and Trump. More debt.

It's simple. Inflation.

they are.we have their slave labor

same way trump paid for his tax cuts for the rich

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>>we'll give you $1000 for """"free"""" but just tax you $2000 at the checkout

being this retarded wow

The president has no authority to implement new taxes.

actually, Jow Forums literally shills for the rich

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>ignores the first part of the post
don't you got some kids to diddle paki?

if you imagine that anyone able to make the presidency is going to be a) willing b)able to what amounts to axing the fucking pentagon and the immensely profitable boondoggle from the folk in the Big Club, you're delusional. i don't mean that to insult you, but there is absolutely no way that the individuals and associations of folk with tons of power and money are going to allow that to happen when they are part of the aparatus of government already. not to mention the inability to use executive order (motherfucker would get impeached hard af and called a traitor successfully) and necessity to work with congress.

just lmao if you reckon you can get a majority in congress of folk that are willing to dismantle the fucking national security state.

buy useful things en masse while you can

leftists believe guns just fire by themselves randomly and kill people. i'm not even joking, they literally believe guns do this.

It's gonna be more than 10%.
Giving every person $1000 per month will cost about $4T a year.
America's entire GDP is only 19T.

Like I said here there's gunna be tax for each piece and process put into making whatever you're buying.

With a national VAT, combined with overlap from existing direct transfers, and the multiplier applied to the economy of +1k a month of consumption.

if you make $240k you are in the 98th percentile of the USA population
>muh middle class

it costs more like $2T because it's only citizens 18-64
see yang2020.com/what-is-ubi/ for details, the proposed rate is in fact 10%

>With a value added tax on all AI/automation production.

What AI/Automation? AI doesn't actually exist yet. What we have atm is machine learning algorithms that are decent at making associations between input data and output action within certain narrow domains. It actually has no true understanding about the data, the world around it, the entities within said world, or the casual relationships that make up the world.

And automation, while getting better, still hasn't replaced humans, there isn't a warehouse on this planet that functions with zero human workers, and there won't be until we invent strong AI. There is only so far you can go with repetitive mechanical bots on a assembly line. You need judgment based cognition when the environment isn't super controlled and predictable. Just the act of stacking shelves at a walmart isn't enough for today's weak and narrow AI.

Someone from the tech world needs to tell Yang to stfu and stop speaking about AI, he has NO fucking clue what he's talking about. And if he tries to Tax these companies today, he may end up delaying the progress for true AI and full automation.

Someone has to pay for Israel UBI

It's more like ~2.4T. Remember that this is only going to adult citizens, and +65's already get social security worth more than 1k (i.e. they get much better than Yang is offering to actually productive people).

One child policy, it’s the only way political kikery won’t turn the future into a dystopian prole mess

> In the future, mankind masters his environment, by learning to just build around the nuclear explosions, and embrace them.

He's going to tax companies and businesses, raising costs by $1000 to the consumer. He's then going to give $1000 to the average American.

PROFIT!!!1

Retard rice eater cum burps a gay retard statement

>it costs more like $2T because it's only citizens 18-64
Do you think that money is gonna distribute itself to 200M people without any issues?
A payment system like this will require a government agency with a workforce in the hundreds of thousands for logistical purposes alone.

god forbid goldman sachs has to pay higher taxes

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>he thinks people won't be paying VAT at grocery stores and for whatever other shit you buy
Prices of whatever you decide to buy will go up no matter what with VAT

>AI doesn't actually exist yet.
as relates to job loss, plenty of AI (ie automated self-teaching machine working labor replacers) do exist already. the robot trucks are coming

>+65's already get social security worth more than 1k
Which the person pays into every month through the course of their entire life working.
SS isn't free money, retard, it's a government managed retirement fund.

...actually it's probably somewhat less than that additional spending since I forgot about transfers already going to 18's-65's (disability, etc)

it will require significantly less bureaucracy than the various welfare programs it will (by and large) be replacing

Lol another cum burped libtard statement

This is the stupidest idea I ever heard of. Anyone buying into this needs to take an economics 101 class

>Prices of whatever you decide to buy will go up no matter what with VAT
yeah. by 10%
therefore in order to spend $2000 on the VAT, you would need to be buying $20k worth of shit per month. which would mean that you make at least $240k per year. see?

Dude 1000$ here and I wouldnt need to work

this is literally what fucking retards say

it's only for american citizens

Do you have a single fact to back that up with?
Customer Support alone is going to require call-centers with 100k people to manage the 2+ Million callers if there's even a 1% margin of error in distribution.

With businesses like Amazon not getting federally taxed on their $11+ billion in profits annually...THEY SHOULD have an additional layer of taxes when they replace human jobs with AI.

whoa...what debilitating a shot!

nice argument fucking faggot

>ignoring his point and moving the goal post
typical brain dead leftist

I know I am just saying that money if you lived here would be a comfy life

well properly speaking its a legal ponzie scheme that will be sucked dry relatively soon unless Something is Done and boy, when Washington does something it usually fucking sucks.

there over 40 million Americans on welfare right now, across many different programs. shall I name every single social program which will be getting outmoded by the UBI and try to delineate exactly how many assessors and social workers and officers and clerks they have? that would be very difficult for me. or can we agree that it's much simpler to write a flat check for $1k every month

money.com/money/4213065/will-social-security-run-out-money/
>It’s a matter of making small changes to retirement ages and benefits, or increasing the payroll tax that funds Social Security. “If we increased the employer share [of FICA] by 1.34% and employee share by 1.34%, that would be enough to pay the current benefits for everyone who reaches retirement through 2089,” she says.

No, Social Security is solvent, and quite robust, but it hasn't been adjusted for inflation for like 20 years so contributions made are too low to maintain a 100% payout rate after 2034.
A very small raise in contribution fixes this, and it realistically should be adjusted every 5 years.

AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
YOU THINK THAT TAKING GIBS FROM THE NIGGERS WILL END WELL FOR YOU???

THEY'LL FUCKING RIOT.

i directly replied to his post u fucking retard

>unironically supporting the transfer of wealth from productive members of society to deadbeats
Fuck off commies, it's awful to pay tax out the asshole just to provide for leeches.

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Also, you're all forgetting the MOST BASIC THING about all this:

THE PRESIDENT DOESN'T SET THE BUDGET, AND CANNOT IMPLEMENT NEW TAXES.

THAT'S THE POWER GIVEN TO THE LEGISLATIVE BRANCH.

FUCKING IDIOTS.

If the President could set the budget, the Wall would have been built by now.

it's opt-in, you capslock sperg. you can either keep your existing gibs or switch over to the UBI. almost all welfare recipients would prefer the UBI even if they receive nominally more in benefits, for the simple reason that cash in hand is just better