We can all agree capitalism will end eventually right?

And... Another episode of division of labour = capitalism.

If this is so, than communism is capitalism, so what's even the point?

If you exchange hunted meat for some berries, it's already capitalism at work.
Whoever was a freeloader in a tribe, was frown upon.
Even monkeys trade stuff.

>Nope, it will get worse and eventually turn into feudalism or exterminationism
Naturally, you have to be a broken man to support stagnation or regress into the past.

No, Capitalism is just the acknowledgement of human nature and the desire to get out its way.

All labour is not equal

Its already ended, retard. Globalism made capitalism impossible, what we have now is corporatism.

>Even though it didn't exist for 99% of human history?
Free trade didnt exist for 99% of humanity? Communism is a great retard filter.

"Capitalism" is just a Jew slur for the way white people act. So as long as white people exist, Classical Economics will exist. When we die, so will our economic system.

Sure, and? But all value is produced by labour.

Communism is capitalism that some central force fucked up.

>Even though it didn't exist for 99% of human history?
Sauce?

Capitalism will always exist in some capacity. It's the only way of life that doesn't require society being forced to follow it.

History is progressing towards an end without humans.
>What is Transhumanism

>impossible
Not impossible. We just need to burn the governments fucking things up.

sorry bro trade is not capitalism, trade is trade.
caoitalism is a recent system. Just read absolutelly any theory on it. even wikipedia if you are not willing.

>regress into the past
Funny how that argument is never applied to democracy, abortion or countless other regressive things that are liked by libshits.

Jeez guy, stop with the antisemitism already

There is natural value like raw materials.

It's just the evolution of voluntary exchange. Yes it's far more complicated and abstract, but its core principles are the same.
If you disagree, tell me specifically, what is so artificial about capitalism.

Global oligarchy controls the government. Even populists like Trump cant do shit without being impeached by corporate puppets.

No private markets and means of production at least are proto capitalism.

Looking at ancient Greece or sumerian it's pretty damn clear they aren't communist

The point not is that communism presumes my 8 hours of work equals to your 8 hours of work which is just wrong.

> infinite universe
> but capitalism has limits
lmao you brainlet

Oh...
And you can have trade without ownership? Oh... you can't? And that is a completely retarded claim? Yeah. That makes sense.

Guys capitalism isn't free trade. Just about every political philosophy under the sun has trade. What is goin on in schools. Far out Im a commie and eevn I have read smith.

here's a 101 en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Capitalism

Do you think cavemen had private property or capital, a free market, a state, a division of labour.

Distributism will win.

once all the rich have all the wealth the next
logical procession is to protect that wealth
from thieves because of delusions of the
rich, so they will begin to feed us to saturn
by way of war.

>Looking at ancient Greece or sumerian it's pretty damn clear they aren't communist
Well, duh, no shit Sherlock. You know that not everything that isn't Communism is capitalism, right?
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Economic_system

>hur dur you can have trade without ownership hur dur
And yes. Yes they did.

Lol. No.

can you provve to me that they did not have private property, free trading capapbilities, hierarchical structures & labour delegation management system?

>The point not is that communism presumes my 8 hours of work equals to your 8 hours of work which is just wrong.
It does not, and it never did. In fact, the very origin of Marxism is rejection of his contemporary theories of socialism (among which was also that each and every man should get equal cash by the hour of work)

>Distributism will win.
It does not have any standing in the church itself, let alone having no effect on the economy.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Economic_history_of_the_world#Antiquity:_Classical_Era

bruh just read a history book. Holy fuck. I thought germans were smart. Did cavemen have a boss who they worked for and got a wage while the boss kept most of the goods? Did grug have a state? No they fucking worked for their community and shared all the deer they hunted. Where the fuck does free market or wages or state or private property exist in that situation.

Capitalism doesn't have anything to do with ownership of goods.
It's about ownership of the means of producing said goods.

>Did grug have a state?
Lol. Yes. Very fucking obviously yes.

History does not end. Its cyclical in which elites are varying levels of accountable.

>Capitalism doesn't have anything to do with ownership of goods.
That is literally the exact thing it has to do with.

No it doesn't you brainlets. You can own goods privately in many systems including capitalism.
What makes capitalism capitalism is the ownership of the means of production. This is high school stuff lad.

except the part where elites are openly stating it as a final goal.

There are two ends two capitalism imaginable
>artificial intelligence makes work obsolete and we create heaven on earth
>Welfare for the white man by enslaving shitskins around the globe

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are you fucking serious? Grug had cops to enforce his private property rights of his cave. wtf

Agreed.it is High School stuff. Which makes it that much more embarrassing that you are failing this hard. The distinction between private property and personal property is a nonexistant one, and like everything you Marxist spout is just backpeddaling to try and cover up for how retarded you are.

Nah, freedom is what the human spirit craves.

It is true. Any oligarchy's first goal is securing its' power, and progress is one of principal dangers to it.

However, I doubt anyone posting here is a member of oligarchy.

> Did cavemen have a boss who they worked for?
> what were tribal chieftains?
> and got a wage
> what were ratios for a tribal caste system?
> Did grug have a state?
> what were designated hunting areas of various tribes?
> and shared all the deer they hunted
> implying there was no caste system in ancient tribes
> Where the fuck does free market or wages or state or private property exist in that situation.
> what were slaves?
lmao you brainlet, garb a book. I thought you college kids in the US were supposed to be smart

>hur dur what is a chief hur dur
Brilliant. Governments literally did not exist before Adam Smith, apparently. Why are you Marxists all so retarded?

This guy gets it.

Have we really prgressed past this? Time shows again and again that capital and power flow into the hands of the few. These elites control the types of governance, how accountable they are, and what legislation will be allowed, out feudalism is not as hereditary. We have not progressed past the fisrt stage of feudalism/tribalism/slavery.

You can literally get a loan and own some means of production you pathetic brainlet, nobody is holding that from you

>We can all agree capitalism will end eventually right?

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>What makes capitalism capitalism is the ownership of the means of production
that's what commie monkeys reduce it too
but they're niggerwits, so it's irrelevant

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don't tell dirty commies how to be wealthy

capitalism is beautiful. and it ended a long time ago... what we got now is some crooked form of corporativism mixed with mercantilism.

You mean to tell me Adam fucking smith the father of capitalism is actually wrong about capitalism existing only in recent times. All his writing is bunk, garbage. The man repsonsible for the free market, the divison of labour is actually wrong.

This is why i dont come here. Holy fuck. i should just stick to reading the works of capitalists. You guys beyond gone. God accroding to you guys no other economic systaem has ever existed as they used trade. USSR, NK, cuba, africa, every nation literally ever, every caveman were in fact all capitalist. Feudalistic? DONT EVEN EXIST. Monarchy? DIDNT EXIST WAS CPAITALISM

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Based and tribalpilled
Tribalism is part of human nature.

Capitalism is Jewish and anti-White.

Communism is Jewish and anti-White.

National Socialism is White and pro-White.

No , but the current monetary system will end very soon.

During the next crisis central banks will be out of power to do anything without causing massive inflation and literally revolutions.

>Its already ended

True

>Globalism made capitalism impossible, what we have now is corporatism.

Wrong

You are close rusky , capitalism is basically the acumulation of capital for investment.

During the gold standard we saw the car , the airplane , modern plumbing ,electricity and many more technologies spawn because a strong currency incentives to delay gratiffication and invest your CAPITAL into some other things.

Central banks fucking of our currencies + income tax punish the accumulation of capital so more and more power is being centralized in a few companies.
Take airplanes for example , boeing used to compete with 7 more companies but now they dominate the us market.

Why?Because modern monetary system punish the accumulation of CAPITAL by devaluating the currency and taxing success.

The same thing is happening with housing becoming more and more pricy after each crisis but wages not going up according.

The problem is not globalism , the problem is the fucking monetary system that replaced the gold standard.

We are on the last 5 years of capitalism after that it´s going to be pure anarchy until crypto forces governments to self moderate by giving people a way out of hiperinflated currencies.

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>DUDE JUST BEND OVER FOR JEWS AS THEY DO NOTHING AND REAP INTEREST FOR NO REASON
Americans are just jews at this point

>Americans are just jews at this point
Only Whites can be Americans, commie. Therefore Jews cannot be American.

Capitalism will end but history wont. History is cyclical. Capitalism and communism, both of which are practically the same thing, will end when kali yuga ends. A 10000 year golden age is suppose to be coming soon, so you can look forward to that

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Your argument was if these docieties had a state, the user showed they did, you fucking dolt.

Communism v. Capitalism is over-simplistic. If you are asking whether European and American governments will stay out of individuals, either alone or in groups, being generally free to set prices for goods or services based on supply and demand, then no, it won't exist in an unbroken system forever, and not because any other system is a better one but because some humans aren't happy unless they are in charge of everything.

The left really can not meme

Lol. Have to love the Downie who literally said that the state did not exist prior to the 1700's accusing others of being "beyond gone".
But of course the fact that you are strawmanning this hard proves pretty conclusively that you know how retarded your position is.

>said that the state did not exist prior to the 1700's
where did i say that??? Your argument was trade equals capiatlism. or is it not?

>it only took two and one half (2 1/2) (deux et demi) years for the degenerate contrarians of Jow Forums to what-the-fuck-I-hate-conservative-politics-now and start espousing Marx and this Yang commie.

>Look goys, abandon the economic system that is a necessary consequence of your evolution in an agrarian society. If you don't sign up for my system invented by (((Marx))) and (((Engels))), and pushed exclusively by Jews, then you are a Jew slave!
My sides!

Capitalism is not the same as trade. Capitalism is a system with private ownership of capital and free markets. Most tribal societies focused more on collective property, and capital was largely state owned under feudalism, with trade heavily restricted and peasant land being common before enclosure.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heinrich_Pesch

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adolph_Kolping

>where did i say that??? Your argument was trade equals capiatlism. or is it not?
Why won't you address the fact that both Communism and Capitalism are Jewish and therefore anti-White?

>
There.
And no. That was never even remotely my argument. Hence why I pointed out that you are strawmanning. My points (and there have been several) include:
-you can not have trade without ownership
-prehistoric societies had states
And I had not mentioned this, but I'll throw it in for good measure
-the state is not a necessary prerequisite for """capitalism"""

>capital was largely state owned under feudalism
This is just patently absurd.

Hegel is a one sick sad asshole, and everything built on the top of him is some sick sad shit.
Not only because he substituted logic with dialectics, but also because one of the most destructive conclusions of his was proven utterly wrong (I'm speaking of his "wars promote progress" which was proven false many times over.

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