Advice/Debate thread regarding dating as well as finding love and improving oneself in today’s world. Good change of pace from all the shitposting on Jow Forums.
>be me
>25 years old
>5’3
>Got my bachelors in neuroscience, currently in a post-bacc before applying for medical school
>Know how to cook, deeply religious, trying to get Jow Forums
>haven’t had a serious date in a while in the Bay Area
Any suggestions in getting a date up here?
Don't be a fucking pussy.
>Any suggestions in getting a date up here?
more like down here lmao
Take this faggot shit to another board manlet.
I mean I have walked out on dates when it got too political.
>take girl out from Cal
>go get yakitori
>she non stop talks about politics for a good 45 minutes
>try to change subject to family, cooking, travel etc
>always goes back to politics
>cut date short, she asks why, I tell her “I just can’t sit through a date where the only thing you have to talk about is politics, and I just don’t think the chemistry is right”
>she was pretty cool about me being honest
>ended up watching the new dragonball movie
>4u
FUCKING LOL
Ideal female
Its hard up here.
I do go to trad mass up in Oakland. Pretty comfy and has gotten me to stop fapping and watching porn
Anons, you aren't going to find your soulmate if you go out searching. You just go about your business, do what you do, and all of a sudden she is there. If you go out looking for love, all you'll find is heartache.
Based
Get out of the Bay Area, unless you want to make little Elliots
>Any suggestions in getting a date up here?
youve no chance until you are earning good money as a doctor.
i dont think its being harsh to say youre too short as you probably know it yourself but its important to consider that even without a world of kike bullshit filling womens heads, we have the internet now and short guys dont stand a fucking chance.
historically women in safe societies bred with short men for 2 reasons-
medically, having big babies meant risking your life during labour
geography, if they only had a handful of local men to choose from their perceptions on whats attractive and desirable is totally different
i say safe societies, as going back even further to more lawless times, women have always gravitated to who could protect them and their children, which was always bigger and stronger men.
just stick with your studies and get big goybucks in the future, its your only hope.
Well I mean I do believe God would present the opportunities, I just have to make use of them. Rather than magically bumping into someone
5'3... Man, that's rough. Learn Cantonese, Asian girls are your only hope of a high value woman.
Said by the guy on a family/cooking/travel board.
Eh, very true. I have been told a couple times by some dates that emotionally/personality wise the chemistry was great. But the physical chemistry wasn’t.
I used to let it get to me, but now I just go to the gym, cook, and do other hobbies to relieve my stress/anger. Rather than just fapping
I’m asian.
further to this, its also worth considering that historically a large % of the population die unmarried, without kids and forever alone. even during the healthiest and most optimistic periods of human history, such as 1950s america that spawned the boomers, 25-30% never had families or children and maybe its just your turn.
right now the nursing homes and hospitals are full of lonely old people who have never had families, quietly dying off in the background, none of these people had anything like the brainwashing we see right now as an excuse for not finding somebody and still failed.
Honestly that’s a big fear of mine... dying alone
Kraut with the A+ bantz
women still seek those they perceive as the best guardians, in these times that doesnt just mean physical strength, smarter women recognise we arent out fighting bears for breakfast anymore. somebody with a good income and stability in their life is a better 'protector' than a 6'5 nigger, even if the vast majority of women are impulsive low IQ children, there will be others out there who can see that these people arent necessarily the best bet for their future.
obviously life would be 100x easier if you were taller and more imposing physically, youll always be behind above average height men who have a good income, probably decent looking average income earners too desu but if you work hard youll definitely be above low earning retards in many womens eyes.
Again from a pure social dynamic basis, I see your point.
Honestly cause of my height I ended up compensating by learning how to cook, play piano, sax, etc. Actually considering trying to get my Q grading for coffee sourcing as a side hobby. That or take some viticulture classes.
This is absolutely head-caved-in retarded.
If I followed this advice I would just work and participate in my highly masculine hobbies where I never meet women and die alone.
>Our ancestors lived in a very different society. They had homogeneous, high-trust communities where their neighbors were of the same class, folk, faith, and social circles. They all grew up together, went to church together, and were well-integrated in a social fabric where everyone knew each other. As a matter of course, every young man knew multiple eligible girls who would make good matches. The parents, friends, busybody old women, tradition, and random happy circumstance would conspire to make successful marriage almost automatic. Naïve romanticism was a perfectly adequate strategy in such an environment, because marriage was supported by such a powerful social machine, which no longer exists.
>We have not inherited an appropriate ethos to deal with our post-apocalyptic social conditions.
You should try and keep active. Have you considered basketball?
10/10 BANTZ
Lol. I do play pickup games at the gym.
I just shoot 3’s and play as good defense as I can. Point Guard is a fun position desu
At this point, you're so short, poor and meek (since you made your post) that you're fucked even if you do become a doctor. You're probably a hapa too, I'm guessing.
Your best shot is to go the "cult leader" route. Grow shoulder length hair, buy a motorcycle, and go looking for followers.
>compensating
you should be doing all of those things regardless of women, you shouldnt view improving yourself as compensating for anyone elses sake.
there must be loads of azn qts at your university? cant you get close to some of them through classes/groups outside of school and eventually convince their oppressive parents to force their daughters into marrying you lol
theyll divorce you in 20 years time and resent their families but by that point you could be rich anyway
Lol, that Cal girl from above was a hapa girl.
I wish I could grow long hair
>that post
>that ID
My sides. Nice
>5'3
>bay area
It’s where my post-bacc program is. But ya the food is great in the area, people are a bit snobby though
>5'3
Yikes!
Eh what can ya do. God/Parents gave me that.
So there was something I read about a guy who had serious issues talking to women and he overcame that by forcing himself to stay in Central Park until he talked to 100 women. He succeeded and wondered why he ever felt like it was hard. Never give up, Anons.
I did that in college. Freshman year I’d talk to random people on campus everyday.
I just stopped cold approaching though, got cringey
I'm wanting to try the same thing on my campus since I struggle with it but I don't want to look like a dick by just getting their number and not contacting them but I feel looking like a jerk is the only way.
>5'3
I hope this is a shitpost otherwise I genuinely feel sorry for you if you are a fully matured man and only 5'3
>hang in there lil buddy
I lived there for 8 years. It's easy to get laid, but hard to find a girl worth marrying.
"dating" is a degenerate modern concept
>>ended up watching the new dragonball movie
with her? or by yourself?
Just talk to random people. Doesn’t have to be a potential date. I used to strike up random convos in line while waiting for food or coffee.
By myself. I cut the date short (plan was to grab drinks after dinner and just walk around Berkeley). But since it was just such a bad date, I ended up getting a ticket to the dragonball movie.
I grew an inch, but that’s my height on my license
>getting their number
you don't have to have that be your goal. just have your goal as: talk to them
>5’3
Sorry user, gonna be a rough ride.
Unironically, consider Islam, reee if you want.
Many mosques have informal matchmaking groups (I’ve seen them and been offered to take part in them personally by imams), and halal dating is similar to old school Christian courting.
Muslims find no shame in getting a woman to avoid fornication, and the religion itself encourages the young to marry early. You may have problems seeking out uni girls the traditional way, but it is still possible. I don’t know much about halal dating apps, but some people swear by them. In mosques where their leadership actually gives a shit about their congregation, there are many wholesome families to observe, along with great events like soccer meets and the like which help you understand that you can fit in to the society. There’s nothing wrong with wanting to marry in the method proscribed by Islamic sources, it’s the cultural shit that may get in the way.
Nah, I prefer Catholicism my friend
You know whats weird.. I actually asked for and got the names and numbers of two young women who were working at ihop. Was on benzos so i had zero inhibition. They werent even my waitresses. One was a host and the other never served me. Im mindblown that it worked. Reminds me of this old timer who told me when i was young, you can just ask every female out. Most will say no but some will say yes.
Or traditional Christianity. Latin Mass Catholicism, certain Eastern Orthodox churches, certain family integrated Evangelical churches. Hard to find such a church but it's better than being a Mudslime.
Do you attend a family-oriented parish where parents with lots of kids want their girls to get married (FSSP, SSPX, Latin Mass)?
All a numbers game I’d like to say. Just dating pools grow and shrink based on a combined physical, social, and emotional dynamics
I'm in a dark place.
I'm severely depressed. I can't find a job because of my background and my work history is shit. My girlfriend of 6 years left me due to my alcoholism and now shes dating some mutt she met on tinder.
Now im living at my mom's and im 32.
Dunno what to do.
ICRSS in Oakland actually. Really chill TLM and quite conservative. Lots of young families that attend. St. Margaret Mary in Oakland
No luck finding a girl even at a TLM parish? Damn did I get scammed?
>5'3"
Well...sorry pal. It ain't impossible, it'll just be hard.
Not many young women sadly. Also I prefer going to church not to actively seek out women. I find it more comfy for myself
I'm in the same boat except I'm 24. I can't find a decent job, and I quit the shitty ones I hate. I just broke up with a girl after 6 years, and we have a kid that we didn't plan for. My son is the only thing that keeps me going. I mean, I'm better than I was a year ago, and my resume isn't actually too bad. But sometimes I think about how good things used to be, and how I could have afforded a house and a car on a factory worker's salary in the not-so distant past and I just lose all motivation.
How does one access traditional Christian matchmaking networks? Are they as pervasive as the Muslim ones I have seen?
I started going to a TLM parish entirely just to meet women. Hasn't worked yet (though it's only been four weeks). maybe it's just a meme and I need to become a Muslim like this guy says
What is TLM?
Does anyone have any suggestions for churches in NYC? I would love that
Oh traditional latin mass presumably. got it
Traditional Latin Mass. I like it because the girls are all 8/10 at least and come from families that don't believe in birth control and have many children. A lot of homeschoolers too. I've found it hard to integrate myself socially but I'm making progress. It might be a meme though, take it with a grain of salt.
Agreed
TLM=Traditional Latin Mass
ICRSS is pretty chill, lots of incense and huge focus on liturgy. The meme is that they’re the “gentlemen” of the Latin community. (Holy Innocents is the ICRSS on the website)
FSSP is more grounded/traditional in terms of pre Vatican II
SSPX I wouldn’t recommend personally just because it isn’t in communion with the Holy See (whether you like it or not, Pops Francis is still the Pope)
Good post, great link and much appreciated. Unfortunately I'm a bit too bent out of shape about the modern dating process and very much so a hopeless romantic. Removing that part of me just leaves me more blackpilled and repulsed by it all. Perhaps it is pride. Perhaps I just want to hold on to something more meaningful than a mundane battle plan and routine calculations.
I can relate. Lived with my mom a lot. She even pays my rent to this day. Also a bad drinker. One suggestion is naltrexone. Helps the alcohol craving. Like a lot.
Also to respond to the totality pf your situation, our goal is just to make it through life. Its going to end regardless. None of your problems are permanent. Kind of nihilistic but helps me put things in perspective. Good luck.
The Romans didn't just sit and wait, they went out and kidnapped the Sabine women.
Hulk Hogan wants his chin back.
YA BROTHER
>Got my bachelors in neuroscience, currently in a post-bacc before applying for medical school
Oh fuck this, anyone got any advice for someone that isn't made of money and status?
>5’3”
Yes, spend money on leg extensions instead of medschool.
Mashallah haha
Just be a bit more open minded about this mate, the pozz is real.
NOT POLITICS
>deeply religious
Dude why? You fell for the memes.
> traditional lifestyles guarantee demographic security that is faltering all across the west which is contributing to its denigration
ABSOLUTELY POLITICS
Sadly. Western women are known whores. Black women are dumb and stupid as fuck, and whores.
My advice. Go to Asia, Tru they're known as whores too, but less and at least can make good wives, taking care of kids and kitchen shit.
Another shit, but probably less favorable, go to Islamic countries and buy yourself a wife there, you may or may not have to convert to Islam. Of course, that may not be your coup of tea.
That my friend is a rare pepe
>your goal is to make it through life
Well said friend. Life is a marathon, not a sprint.
There's a girl I like, she's a devout Catholic. We have one mutual friend and is in my medium sized home town.
How am I going to meet and talk to said girl? Pray to God to provide an opportunity and bless it. And trust that God's will is going to unfold no matter what happens. Going through life like this has been really good anons. I would strongly suggest it. But realize by doing this, you're not asking God to just give you things, but you are asking to be a part of his will yet making a request. No matter what happens though, you are living in his plan.
This seemed like a good column until I got to the part where the answer on how to get women is to be the Ubermensch. Kinda like reading an article that promises to help you balance your budget and it just says "be rich enough that you don't need to lol." Thanks Sargon, really appreciate the "man up" advice, never heard it before.
Whoops, missed that. My sincerest apologies OP, never again shall I mock your difficulties.
>be me
>25 years old
>5’3
Sorry user.
>Bay area.
Nothing but ugly leftist cows up there captain, Abandon ship.
God already is providing an opportunity via your friend. Just say hi. And go from there. Have your friend introduce you.
You still have a chance to become a member of the dating pool, if you undergo a leg surgery to grow up to 5'11 at least. Because shit happens, women judge you by you appearance if you are not well-off. 5'7, going to do the same. I heard that it's helluva painful, but any success has a price.
No need to be sorry brah
Nah not that desperate
Is your country still one of the mail-order bride centers of the world? Honest question
It is, but brides are the same whores as those in the West. The only difference is that they do not cover it up.
hardly. all her political "opinions" have been picked up from external (((influences))). I can guarantee you nothing she believes has been through her own thought.
I also guarantee that if you acted like a Man she would suddenly take on all of your political beliefs.