God Worship

It is very easy to offend a god, you just need worship the wrong god

Lel.

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Deism is the only true religion.
>God made the big bang happen and then fucked off and never came back

Of there is a God then the big bang is part of him. If there ain't a God then the big bang is Him. Surely any division in this universe is an illusion created by the perception of time?

>is pascals wager a valid philosophy
Here's an expanded Pascal's wager of what happens based on which religion you choose vs which is the truth.

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It is, especially when you realize that:
Because of the implications of God’s existence (possibility of eternal life?; etc) should that be the case, and the odds of it being true (which are no lesser than the opposite) it is an imperative that you ‘solve’ the problem in your case by making a sincere attempt at least once at reasonably proving yourself his existence; then you can either be a believer or guiltless if you failed.
However, if you really try (and you can only be guiltless if you do) then you’ll fine that as it turns out God does exist and everything points in that direction.
So in practice, you start with Pascal’s wager as the reason why there is an imperative to look into it, and then once you do you realize all the evidence towards God existing and become a non-meme believer.
tl;dr: it’s valid but only as a transition/phase.

Only if 'God' takes your bet though. I have a funny feeling He won't.

The chart is wrong lol. Nothing to go by.

How to I close a gif?

>The chart is wrong
Which part is wrong? Maybe you read it wrong, the images show how each of the religions on the top would treat someone of the religion on the left

Literally not though because literally gametes are alive at the point of literal conception (which isn't sex specifically brainlet). Your literal brain seeks to define life as literally distinct consciousness which isn't true when considering plants are literally alive without a consciousness. This means that you're literally wrong - life creation other than the literal start of our bate evoulutionary roots has been limited to man literally creating life in the form of bacteria in labs from literally inorganic parts.

> watch middle girls knee
> watch youtube.com/watch?v=AVFsJvqjP24
Yup, women were a mistake

Imagine your face if no religion was true yet you still had to do something to enter heaven.

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This is my philosophy

Firstly it should just say christianity. Not christian fundamentalism. Secondly christianity is mutually exclusive with universalism. The bible specificly adresses that god's curse is upon those who preach false gospel. Believing in Jesus means you don't believe in Muhammad, because the gospel they preached are not the same. You can only serve one master etc.

Yeah its called Pascal's wager you schmuck

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Yeah nvm read it wrong. Still wouldn't give it much thought. Seeing as christianity is the truth.

>Seeing as christianity is the truth
Top kek, imagine believing a book that a schizo wrote 2,000 years ago. As I said earlier, deism is the only true religion.

Top kek, imagine choosing death over life. Enjoy what little time you have left.

I create life by jizzing in a sock and putting it into a chocolate cake the result after 3 weeks being NEW LIFE
>I am your god

Thas so fucking extra an doesnt even look gud...
lame as fuck.

>conditions were righ
what an absurd concept is this
no kind of condition makes people out of bosons atoms and electrons.

We are such stuff as dreams are made on

You clearly don’t know what a scientific theory is user

>Christianity is truth
Jesus Christ is The Way, The Truth and The Life. No man comes to The Father except through Him.

Enlighten me then please.

Amen

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>imagine choosing death over life
Imagine blindly following a book that has no bearing on your life. Just go watch some darkmatter2525 or nonstampcollector and you'll see how Christianity and other religions are completely retarded.

you dont worship a god if it isnt out of genuine faith

either People truly believe in it or not

you dont believe in a god to "get better Odds of going to heaven"

A few Italians in the Rennaissance allready tried this Train of thought and got Shot down by the simple answer that an omnipotent being would look straight through their bluff

>check these two random hellbent smart guys talk shit about something they don't understand

Nah man. Going to hell is retarded.

>it is just as plausible as any other theory that the universe was created by a God OR it just started because the conditions were right
Sure, no one'a arguing that.

But it's definitely not plausible that the universe was created an Abrahamic god specifically for the purpose of obsessing over whether a bunch of carbon chains on one tiny planet cut their dick skins off or not. Sorry, but the demiurge doesn't listen to your prayers and suspend the laws of physics because you wished really hard. It doesn't care about your doctrine and dogma and proscriptions and it isn't responsible for any sacred texts any more than it is indirectly responsible for all texts ever written everywhere.

>talk shit about something they don't understand
Check this one out youtu.be/RB3g6mXLEKk it has the verses listed.

Wow must suck to hate god so much. Why you so mad nip? Existence too much to handle?

You are attributing emotions to me that are not present, and reflect more on your character and state of mind than my own.

I'm not gonna check that one out no. Reason being I don't care what someone who is not christian thinks the bible preaches. It's not that you guys want be to not be right for my sake, it's that you desperstely want me to be wrong, for your sake. I simply don't care about what lies you believe in or how anyone disgards any given context to twist the truth. I don't you.

>It's not that you guys want be to not be right for my sake, it's that you desperstely want me to be wrong, for your sake.
I think you're projecting again. It isn't what anyone "wants". It's simply what is.

Modern Secular Humanism requires belief in incredible miracles. “The Evolution of Chloroplasts and Mitochondria.” Only. Complete retards who don’t know a goddam thing about either would buy this shit. It’s like a fully functioning nuclear power plant just appearing one day in a heap of slime mold.

You're filled with hatred of god, as anyone who reject him is. Also there were some questions in there. Only attributing hatred for god to you.

You're wrong. Of course what is is. Believing in what is as opposed to what isn't, makes a person right in that belief.

Again.. you are projecting your own feelings onto other people. "Hatred"? I feel no hate nor do I see any place where I suggested hatred in my previous writing. If you perceived it as such then I can only say that reflects more on your emotional state than mine.

>Also there were some questions in there.
You did not ask any sensible or reasonable questions. If you can't communicate at a rational level there is no reason for us to communicate at all.

>Only attributing hatred for god to you.
That's not a sentence.

>Believing in what is as opposed to what isn't, makes a person right in that belief.
That's factually false and not supported by anything that could be called reality.

I. E.

2+2=4 would be right. That it is.

Is Jesus god and did he die for your sins? Yes. That would be right. That is.

Me being right means those who are wrong don't get to go to heaven. Which explains my comment.

It's a sentence I made it into one. Language is just a tool you use to convey a message. The hammer can be used however you see fit but it doesn't stop being a hammer. I care little about contemporary grammar. I care that I am understood.

This chart is garbage.

Maybe it was the autism what saved him?

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You go ahead and believe that. My words are wasted on you.

People would be more interested in watching that if those girls did it naked

>Is Jesus god and did he die for your sins? Yes. That would be right. That is.
The fact that you believe it is true does not make it true. If that were the case, then every god would exist because everyone's belief would make them true, which is clearly absurd and impossible as multiple religious doctrines explicitly deny the existence of other gods and tell conflicting stories of the origin of the universe. The fact that you think your god is real because you were born into your religion does not make its existence more plausible than any other.

A person's treatment of another person based on religion is reliant on multiple variables:

Level of understanding of both religions, level of understanding of the way their own religion is supposed to interact with people of other religions, willingness to obey they're own religious teachings, personal temperament, how strictly each individual adheres to their separate religions, whether or not the two people get along, whether or not this is a group interaction, etc.

The list is utterly gigantic. It is utterly flawed in that it does not deal purely in doctrine. Even if it were to deal with doctrine it does not differentiate in terms of historical or textual reliability.

This chart is a depiction of opinion.

I wasn't born into any religion before I started believing in Jesus at the age of 25. Then I was reborn, you could say. It's not true because I believe it, I believe it because it is true. If you want to so desperately to be proven right you ought to stop being wrong lol. Read the bible and ask for guidance.

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Premise 1 God is all powerfull and all knowing
premise 2 God is a personal God if not why even care about the wager God does not care where you are going
Premise 3 God is Good

His religion will be active today , make your bet and delete that stupid image

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We're already creating life.

But I didn't say that, and you posted it after I said something similar. Come on Joseph you can do better than this. But whatever I'm done with you.

>It's a sentence I made it into one.
And the reality is you made an incomplete sentence. If your intent was to make yourself understood, you only succeeded in making it understood that you are not very adept at communicating, and that you have an improper idea of what constitutes correctness. This is probably contrary to your goals of convincing people to believe your religious proselytism, as it does not reflect well on your claims that you understand reality.

Nah you understood it.

I understood that you have a poor grasp of both the English language and reality. Words tell more than what they actually say. Simply writing something doesn't make it a reality, but the act of writing it can reveal the nature of the writer. This is rather similar to the situation with your religious text.

Nah. You understand where you are going. You understand you are looking in the wrong place if you want to change this, and instead you continue to spout shit to some random dude you never met, because he pointed out you are angry at god. Good luck.

Turns out god is the third star in orions belt.

I made the image before you posted, because your arguments are as predictable as they are disingenuous. I held out some hope that you might prove me wrong, but alas you went the same old tired route I've seen countless times before.

Ha larping as a gook and then pretending your English is better then a euro ... Classic

>ignore that collection of 60+ historically corroborated books who I ignorantly think were written by a single "schizo" goy
>wager your life and philosophy on these two paragons of wisdom, aptly named DaRkedgyMaTtEr2525xXx and muhnonsequiturname69, those are the great thinkers of our time

Imagine blindly following euphoric, fedora-tipping,tendie-consuming incel boomers on youtube as basis for your theological beliefs

You'll die of embarrassment on the DOTR before the rope is even done stretching

It is simply and purely fallacious to assume that anyone who disagrees with your religion or states a case for the reality of the matter is somehow "angry at god". In order for that to be true I would first have to believe your god exists, and then be angry at him. As I believe you are the only one who has demonstrated a rationality-impeding level of emotional response to this conversation, I am, at the risk of sounding like a broken record, once again lead to suggest that these accusations say more about your own emotional state than my own.

Furthermore, I thought you were "done with me"?

I'm not trying to prove anything. And like I said, I didn't even claim what the picture says. I literally said my words were wasted on you a bunch of posts ago. You are delusional, thinking you will some day meet someone who can convince you when you are not open to ideas that would break your delusions. Only Jesus can fix your broken mind. So it would do you good to accept him. Until then. Have a nice stay.

You know I'd have no problem if he simply said "Sorry my English is bad", but his belief that he creates reality simply by insisting that he's right is just childishly absurd.

I am done with you. As you can clearly tell from your incredible reading skills we aren't discussing your path to salvation anymore and we both keep repeating the same things with various semantic differences.

Good answer. This makes sense to me. PW is a springboard for inquiry; it merely gets you started. If you’re sincere, you get an answer (regardless of what that answer is).

Clearly your reading skills aren't all that which you would have us believe. I remember specificly writing "it's not true because I believe it, I believe it because it is true."

But if you are "done with me" as you have said numerous times and keep continuing to make implications that the conversation is over, why do you insist on continuing it? I'm happy with discussing this as long as you wish. There is much we could analyze about your theological delusions and continued insistence that belief constitutes reality.

The biggest revelation for me is that there's a spiritual element to this life. It's very dunning kruger, perhaps you start off very young thinking God is real, but not really knowing why. You get a bit older, and learn a little more 'science' and adopt a very hollow, atheistic view of the world. Then you do some more research and you discover there is an abundance of scientific and historical evidence which supports theism. And over the course of your life, you will begin to discover kernels of truth in the strangest of places, places that you least expect.

I would say the schizophrenics are right about a lot of things. There is a plane of existence above our own in which various deities or entities live within. These entities feed off of the negative energy that we emit - anger, jealousy, pain, shame, even lust. Did you know there is an ancient Hebrew deity called Lilith? It is the deity for Lust. Funny that, and unbeknownst to me at the time, I used to watch a redhead pornstar called Lilith Lust. These deities can very likely arrange or affect our reality if we let them, and when you indulge in these various negative emotions, you are feeding them.

The spine acts as a sort of spring, would you agree? And atop your spine sits your head. Your spine and respiratory system go up and down, up and down, all day long. You actually emit a frequency based off of your breathing patterns. Inside your skull sits your brain inside a fluid, and it oscillates. This oscillation generates an electrical signal - that is your consciousness. I'm sure it is no surprise to you, but MIT has several not-so-secret projects which can read our brainwaves. It is a very real thing.

In this regard, I would say that maintaining a positive attitude is critical for success and happiness in life. The most beautiful thing for me is to see people doing what they love, you can almost see their soul glowing. Even if it's something silly, like dancing or drawing. You may come to appreciate everyone's separate struggles in life and relate to them on this level. And at the same time, when you see someone you love suffering, you feel like a father in that you wish you could reach down and pick them up. I imagine this is how God would see us, and the joy and sadness he feels from watching us from afar.

>"it's not true because I believe it, I believe it because it is true."
Faulty reasoning. In order for it to be true you would first have to prove it. You may state "I believe it because it is true" but your entire premise for its veracity is the claim that it is "right". It's a tautology. You haven't proven anything, you've only insisted that you believe it to be true therefore it must be.

Pascal's wager is actually very good but it is not finished . The basis is if you act like God exist you will go to heaven . because there are certain premises

We could argue until you died. And then I would live on. Makes no difference to me. I am done, specificly; believing anything I say or do can make you believe. At a certain point in the conversation it became apparent to me how strong your delusions are and I'm not god, Jesus is. So I'll leave you to him. We can continue arguing if you want. Won't do you no good tho, and like I said, to me it's just wasting words.

And yes that means if God is good a eternal torture in hell is impossible . Thus sorry Christians but your wager was wrong....

This is the third time you have said "I am done". Has the cock crowed yet? You have not yet convinced me that you are capable of any sort of rational discourse. You are doing a poor case for your religion if it is your intent to convince people it is true and that your god exists.

No. You don't have to prove something to be true, for it to be true. Reality is objectively true even if you have your subjective view on it. So what you say is false.

Nigger

Like I said you incredibly daft person, my intent is no longer to convince you of anything. Won't stop me from arguing the truth until my last breath, meaning I'll never stop arguing the truth.

>You don't have to prove something to be true, for it to be true.
True, but it does not prove that which is not true, simply by saying it does not need to be proved to be true. What is untrue is untrue. By all rational reasoning, evidence, and debate, YOUR god doesn't exist. That's ABOUT as true as anything can be true in the world which we inhabit with our limited senses and finite knowledge.

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>Won't stop me from arguing the truth until my last breath, meaning I'll never stop arguing the truth.
A schizophrenic can often insist reality is not what it is until his dying breath, that doesn't make his delusions true. I'm not saying you're schizophrenic, but it wouldn't hurt to get tested.

Your idea of rational is childs play to god. You are created in his image, you're not him. God is all powerful and thus can choose if he wants to be let known, as choosing to let himself be known is within the span of all power. He cleaverly did this through Jesus christ so as to create the covenant with specificly believers. Understanding the trinity will help you understand his rationality and why we exist as we do, with free will and why faith in Jesus is the road to salvation . Some humulity would do you wonders as you read the bible.

>we cant create life
what do you mean you cajt create life retarded faggot, leave meat in a closed jar wait a few months and watch the larva and life you created

I know what I am and what I am not. There is no need for me to do any testing.

>bunch of people write books about my life
>all stories accurate, only fiction is my feats a la a cult leader
>2000 years later the historical accuracy is correct
Wtf im god now?

>I know what I am and what I am not. There is no need for me to do any testing.
That's a very dangerous way of thinking. Not just to yourself, but those around you. Now I'm not saying one should necessarily put their faith in mental health experts as there's more than a few problems in that community as well, but 100% steadfast zealous refusal to consider other viewpoints is how pogroms, witchburnings, and socialist states get started.

Gee, I thought your ilk had gone extinct here in Norway.

I found Hitchens's statement on Pascal's Wager interesting.

>"...You win everything if you bet on God, and you've everything to lose if you're wrong. Well what does this involve, if it's correct? It involves a very cynical god, and a rather stupid one, who will say, 'Ah, I noticed you make a profession of faith just there, and I also (because I'm God) I know why you did, because it was in the name of winning favor with Me.' Well that's fine, you'll therefore get it.
>"That seems to me a rather contemptible thing, and necessarily therefore to entail a rather contemptible human being, who says 'I don't really believe this, I have no faith, but what can I lose by pretending to God that I do? I might get a break.' I mean this is pretty low, isn't it? If I'm surprised to find when I pass on from the state of tears that I'm facing a tribunal ... I would say, 'I hope you noticed that I didn't try and curry favor, that I was honestly unable to believe in the claims made by your human spokespersons.' Now do I get any understanding? And if that doesn't work, then I don't know what would. But I'm not gonna try anything servile. I'm resolved on that point."