Does Jow Forums hold any leftist ideologies? I believe education should be free for everyone...

Sounds like you didn't go to niggerschool.

i like Yang's argument on education better.
My biggest issue with conservatards is environmentalism though, fuck niggers who want to live in an actual polluted hellhole

Education is a harmful money black hole, stupid bitch. Some "left wing" policies I sonewhat agree:
1. Keeping corporations in check to avoid monopolies, cartels, destructive interference from multinationals, sabotage, exploitation of workers and resources, ...
2. Keep cocaine addicted parasites on check so they don't rob everything that isn't bolted to the ground and become billionaires.
3. Environmental rules and plans that make sense (none of them did so far)
...
This is mostly 70's to late 90's left, now it's all bullshit.

I'd just be happy if the quality of education here in the US was better.

i believe my enemies should be forced to work to death in camps

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I wanna sniff Bratass

>unsure if this leans left nor right

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I wanna put lazy people in gulags.

> Education is a basic human right.
It can't be. Neither can healthcare. Because someone has to GIVE it. Both education and healthcare. It's not just something you take. It is something that is provided to you by others.
And you don't have the RIGHT TO MAKE others provide you services.

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Yeah, some of my national ideas are also socialist.

Problem is, the defense of human life can't be the ultimate moral good; because then it is ethically inconsistent to lay down your life for ANYTHING.

Puts you at the mercy of any group with less qualms about killing than yours.

"The tree of liberty must from time to time be watered with the blood of tyrants and martyrs" - Some American bloke in a powdered wig

This.

You can if they work for the government and are paid by taxes.

world peace
and not the NWO way

it will never work but I can dream

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Gas, electric, water and internet should be paid for with our taxes and all companies forcibly absorbed into the state or literally executed for treason against humanity's best interests. This isn't lefty though, this is common sense and not being a corporate bitch.
Employment and training infrastructure needs to be utterly overhauled and outsourcing made illegal. You should be able to gain the skills and an employer within several years of stating intent. No more languishing on the scrap heap for people who don't deserve it but have little choice because their parents are morons with no resources.

Oh you can have people work for the government and do things for you. You can have government back rub workers. But is it my human RIGHT to get a back rub from people? No.

ONE THOUSAND DOLLARS

Food is a basic human right in an environment you cannot forage enough to survive

Housing is a basic human right in an environment you cannot build your community

Basic clothing is a human right

Education is a human right when trillions is spent on war

Fuck education.
Fuck human rights.

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If you care about your people and you're a proud citizen of your country then of course healthcare and education are basic human rights. You wouldn't care about it if you didn't care about your compatriots.

Human rights are a social construct.

itt centrists have no core beliefs

We already tried free education with highschool from the industrial revolution. It's shit, expensive, and highly inefficient. Today's college is an even greater example how shit free education is today. We're over $1.5 trillion dollars in federal student loan subsidies, college prices rose over 240% over the years, why? Because too many people are over-saturating it for useless and unproductive degrees. The majority of college advocates don't tout around how successful college in producing economically useful people. Instead they tout about how it makes the citizen population more "knowledgeable" and "informed" in exchange for a useless degree.

Free education is only useful if the amount of people going to college is low (Germany had to stop free college to foreigners after being flooded; they and everyone else have less people going to college), the degrees that you get are more valuable, colleges cut off the bloated
and useless administration and programs, and the degree that you graduate with won't land people in starbucks en masse. Thankfully, Yang understands this and wants to shift gears to vocationals/trades.

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>Education is a basic human right.
Human rights are a meme you mong, humans have no rights.

I know not everyone appreciates education, therefor negating your feelings

>then of course healthcare and education are basic human rights
No they're not. Again someone has to provide you those services. What if no one wants to be a doctor? What if no one wants to be a teacher? Are healthcare and education still human rights? Do you then enslave people to serve you and be your doctor and teacher? No? Why not? It's a human right.
No it's not. Because you can't MAKE people provide something to you as a right. Education and healthcare requires work to achieve and work to accomplish. Those people are not required to work for the government nor should they be.

I'm ok with abortion because it is mostly used on niggers. Losing a small amount of shitty whites is worth the massive amount of dead niggers.

Lurk moar.

I believe that traps are unironically better than women

Leftist as in what, believeing in gibsmedats? I've gradually stopped believing in that because I've realized that the government is corrupt, inefficient, inept or a mix of all three. The private sector can provide better education and healthcare than the government ever can hope to achieve. I am sick to death of paying some of the highest taxes in the world just to subsidize a bunch of fucking deadbeats.

Healthcare kinda is because of the whole Hyppocratic Oath issue. Doesn't stop them from bankrupting you afterwards though.

What constitutes a human right, and what kind of education are we talking here?
Why is profit a bad thing?

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>What if no one wants to be a doctor? What if no one wants to be a teacher?
Then you provide all your citizens ways to self-medicate and resources to become self-taught. You could also start campaigning and paying those roles more money and elevate their status. Still, this is a bad and impossible hypothetical because there will always be doctors and teachers. No society ever existed without those.
>Education and healthcare requires work to achieve and work to accomplish. Those people are not required to work for the government nor should they be.
It doesn't mean that they're required to, that's what you're not understanding. The right to have healthcare and education just means that your government will always provide you these things regardless of any factors that could decide the accessibility to the resources and work of those people.
It's clear that you care more about imaginary scenarios rather than not seeing your fellow americans die on the streets, or people that die simply because they didn't have enough money for medicines. Lack of education and information are two other factors that lead to a dumber population.
You keep talking about enslavement but you really can't make the case for your argument. In most if not all the European countries, education and healthcare are human rights and yet there are no slaves, they're also paid. You don't have anything against it other than making up hollywood movie tier scenarios.
You don't care about the wellness of your people and the intelligence of your population. You've been pretty clear.

If you mean k-12, then yes it should be free. School lunch and pre-school should also be free. But making college free isn't the answer. Something like UBI is because it let's people go into trades, college, start their own business, or start work.

I believe people only have the right to be born and the right to be properly buried.
Everything else has be earn

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>Then you provide all your citizens ways to self-medicate and resources to become self-taught
Medicine doesn't work that way dear.
> It doesn't mean that they're required to, that's what you're not understanding.
YES IT DOES. That's what YOU'RE NOT UNDERSTANDING.

My third world shithole has free secondary education and we pretty much share the same position with you on any international student proficiency test.

For instance. Under socialized medicine are there any doctors who charge their own fees for their work and compete with each other and run their own businesses? Are did you FORCE them into a role? Think.

I can't speak for everyone but I believe in a Star trek type of utopian NWO society in search of enlightenment. Free shit for everyone and exploring space. The problem is in this world of limited resources, wealth and power is be siphoned to the top, education is indoctrination. Idealists are often times naive, they cannot see the cynical side of mankind. I am a supporter of capitalism and libertarianism but even they have their flaws. Socialists and leftists never, ever, see the flaws in their own beliefs which is fucking dangerous.

No

>Medicine doesn't work that way dear
You provided me a retarded scenario. Of course you're going to get the most sufficient answer to it, you ignored the rest of it though, conveniently.
>YES IT DOES. That's what YOU'RE NOT UNDERSTANDING.
No, it doesn't. You're not forced to become a doctor or a teacher. If you're willingly working for the government then of course they're going to make you work. You're being paid by taxes.
Socialized healthcare doesn't exclude the possibility to work as a private healthcare job or anything related to a privately owned healthcare business. What are you talking about? We have universal healthcare in Italy and we still have private healthcare. You have a choice.

>Education is a basic human right.
You need to understand that the government is incentivized at every turn to make the population more controllable for it’s own self preservation. Every single program under the government turns into a monumental incompetent failure when seen as a service to the populace. In reality, it’s effective at it’s unspoken intent, which is the subjugation of the citizen.
Government sponsored education allows the fed the opportunity to indoctrinate the populace at an early age to be more controllable:
>Sit down for long periods of time and fed garbage -> makes kids fat
>Lower the bar every few years -> makes kids stupid
Then they grow up to be fat and stupid tax payers. It’s Sisyphus for the teachers, too. Theteachers teaching at nigger districts are paid the same as every others, leading to the lowest trash of teacher.

I don’t know if I hold leftist beliefs. I’ve played with the idea of killing retarded/deformed infants, but the logical conclusion to that immoral.

>I believe education should be free for everyone. Education is a basic human right.
How do you plan on giving people an education if you dont charge any money? Teachers dont work for free

I don't think traps are gay. If they pass well enough to trick you they're female.

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Your rights come from god, not from the government

If the government gives you your rights then they can also take them away.

If you're gay (by extension a tranny), fine, just don't get in my way. Faggots can just be fags in the privacy of their home they have to politicize and socialize while impeding on others and children.
Organized religion for the most part are corrupt institutions that get a free pass. People who use muh religion to be shits, cunts, and weirdos are terrible and ruin things for the benign nutjob.
Blacks and Latinos can be alright just don't be a no good nigger or spic.
Weed is fine IF regulated and with strict rules for use because stoners are retarded and think they can just do what ever they want man. Pretty much endangering others because it's a plant so I can totally drive while high off my ass.

So you're saying there should be some sort of pass or no pass law.
But will it apply to reverse traps because most of them do not pass.

Mandatory post-birth abortion of all liberals

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>I believe education should be free for everyone. Education is a basic human right.
I take it you mean college education in which case I call bullshit.
As of right now in the US every person has a chance to go to school for free as adolescents.
This wasn't always a thing so I think a lot of leftists forget or take it for granted.
As for college anyone with half a brain can go to community college or trade schools. For fuck sake if you have blood in your veins you can get a pell grant and if you have a vagina the scholarships and grants are endless. Liberals and negros crying for free education also want free Ivy League tier education and it's not happening.
I do think there should be ways to study remotely and gain certifications, diplomas, and licensing for little to no money.
Those private Devry tier school charging thousands of dollars for subpar training and a piece of paper worth squat should be out demolished.

Marxism-Leninism is the apex of political theory and social organization. It cannot fail, only be failed.

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>don’t get in my way
If only they could. Every time sodomy is allow to fester, it spreads. I have a gay uncle, who’s super rich and minds his own business. Is monogamous. Contributes to society. And that’s the kind of sodomite I don’t mind. They’ll die out and won’t spread their gay lineage.
Problem is, it’s not that simple, they keep trying to drag the rest of the populace to their degenerate level.

Everyone in first world countries has access to the internet and libraries. Hence education being free. You mean you want someone to certify that you have an education for free and that is where you and i part ways.

Food is more important, and that's for-profit.

Free abortions for people of color.