Ok Jow Forums, redpill me on Joseph Mccarthy

But why is he portrayed in such a bad light? I remember how we were taught about Mccarthyism in highschool and how he was a very bad person.

>He didn't go deep enough
They fucking stopped him
The commies stopped him
The commies are here
They never left
Look at the fucking TV

Because academia has a leftist bias

based FDR co-opting the commies
>The economic crisis of the 1930s was more severe in the United States than in any other large society except Germany. It presented American radicals with their greatest opportunity to build a third party since World War I, but the constitutional system and the brilliant way in which Franklin Delano Roosevelt co-opted the left prevented this. The Socialist and Communist Parties saw their support drop precipitously in the 1940 elections. America emerged from the Great Depression as the most antistatist country in the world.
hoover.org/research/how-fdr-saved-capitalism

he is the epitome of a good-hearted gentile getting WAY over his head in jewish word games. his use of the word "communism" doomed his crusade from the start. too specific, too easy to differentiate between the 1000 other shades of marxism in an academic sense.

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He was right about his assertions and was demonstrably vindicated when the Verona papers dropped and yet somehow McCarthyism is still taught in every school as a dark evil time with him framed as the absolute villain.

That's exactly what I was wondering about. German state media is not mentioning the Verona papers in any word when talking about Mccarthy and the events surrounding him.

i know literally nothing but i can tell from one look at this guy that he is brutal, beats his wife and kids and is secretly gay. so he's an asshole of the worst kind.

I'm stunned at the number of weird motherfuckers in this thread. He stands as a disgraced douchebag who helped instigate a Red Scare in order to unknowingly set US labor practices back many years. Whenever unions would become too conscious of the transitional nature of the post-war economy, or try to capitalize on it as a clean slate, to keep things more egalitarian, they'd lead to disingenuous discussions about communism.

He's an asshole who ran a media blitz and ruined many careers on false pretenses. Don't idolize this shit-bird. If he wanted to fuck up commies he should have joined the CIA and tried to assassinate Stalin. American "communists" at the time were usually just pro-union, pro-humanitarian workers that got fucked.

you're a fuckin faggot. the vast majority of communists in america were niggerloving jews who fucked boys

t. Communist

Hey man, I'm not that committed to defending progressive viewpoints against strawmen posted on Jow Forums. If OP was actually trying to know what well read people think of Joe McCarthy, he'll hopefully read my posts.

You two sound like you need to get a hobby. Or try some LSD. Or the opposite of that, read some textbooks and stop taking any mind altering substances. Either way, bad form. Not cool responses at all, you contributed nothing.

was 100% right. about every commie he named.

>US labor practices

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We are well aware of how the “academics” view him.

Lol, no he didn't. He covered up the Katyn massacre for them. He was a great ally of the commies, and they would not have been able to take over our nation without him.

I didn't go to a university, man. I learned how to weld and then did that as a career. But my grandpa hated McCarthy and getting a library card was basically free. Dude was an asshole.

dont try to convince me to like the pigs because of boxer and benjamin you faggot. the working class can be misled, that doesnt justify it.

Senator Joseph McCarthy (Wisconsin-R) was a patriot and, unlike LBJ and JFK a real hero, a sgt. and tailgunner in a bomber, pacific theater.
He was viciously and unfairly smeared by commie journalists of his time for exposing communists in the State department.
Robert Kennedy worked for him and admired him.

Not trying to be a dick but you're aware that you capitalize the first letter of the first word after the end of a sentence, right? Like this. Observe how the "L" in the word "like" is capitalized. It's proper grammar.

On the pyramid of things informed people pay attention to, proper grammar is at the bottom. It's like bedrock, something they barely pay mind because it's just kind of ingrained. You must be from some hole in the ground.

So that time he came forward with all those blank sheets of paper was part of the legacy of a great man?

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Nigga r srs

But yet you forget that FDR had scores of Soviet agents in his government like (((Algier Hiss)))

Literally co-opted by Soviets

its like the fuckin retard's never been in a casual chatroom before. i bet you think you're some great intellectual policing working-class language like this.

>american commies are just
>just and nothing more
Not one inch, faggot.

Nah. It's just tremendously easy to type like a normal person on a Chan board. You apply pressure to your pinky finger and press the shift key. Keyboarding class was 10 years ago.

The Animal Farm reference was cool and all (I think that's why you'd bring up the names Boxer and Benjamin), but Communism proper is a complex invention that gave things like socialism and more complex governmental structures focusing on the value of labor and the nature of capital their day in the sun. If you're saying "communism bad" because "wanton capitalism is a faith structure", you're just another fucker on Jow Forums who probably didn't do that well in school.

Nuke yourself gommy

Eat a dick. People who work 40 hours a week should be able to afford a home, food, and hospital bills.

>40 posts and not a mention of Roy Cohn
McCarthy is the beginning of the redpill on Trump

He gave a bad name to anticommunism

t. Jow Forumsle_Donald

What about the rosenbergs you ignorant dipshit. There were legitimate subversives in our government moron

>people that do a shit job should be able to afford a mcmansion on the beach
Show me where someone that works 40 hours isnt able to afford a home. I want to know that single mother of a niglets life story, then I can tell you why she'll never truly afford anything.

i went to a school with more than 3 black people so we didn't really have any sort of dedicated typing classes.
and dont talk about "communism proper" because gentiles cant do it properly. if you like that reference how about this one: emmanuel goldstein was a real guy and a communist killed him. i only have half an idea of who mcarthy went after but i know that its better to live in a gay corporate capitalism hell than deal with the stalins of the world.

>some random non functioning website link
Steller argument.

Oh yeah that's why they tolerate the presence of literal white supremacist academics...

>tolerating and not embracing
Youre whats wrong

Literal hero, threw commies in prison with a 100% accuracy rating

senatormccarthy.com

They had to do with statecraft between intelligence agencies. That's ancient history. The irony being you're using Jow Forums, a board where any Russian person could cop a VPN and pretend to have American values. Fuck off.

Wal Mart (the largest employer in the US behind the military) has people on SNAAP costing taxpayers billions of dollars per year because their lowest level employees who work full time cannot afford rent and food.

It's suspect you can press the shift key to make quotation marks but not press it to capitalize words.

Everyone should read every Coulter book

So, Bill, what you're telling me, essentially, is that Joseph McCarthy was a short...dead...dude...

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I'm assuming you're trolling if you don't know what Jow Forumsthe_Donald is

He was right. That's why they had to make it a staple of US History textbooks that he was wrong.

Reminder that there are proud, outed, "democratic socialists" who lead our representation today.

> “The reason why we find ourselves in a position of impotency is not because the enemy has sent men to invade our shores, but rather because of the traitorous actions of those who have had all the benefits that the wealthiest nation on earth has had to offer – the finest homes, the finest college educations, and the finest jobs in Government we can give.”

> "A government job is a privilege, not a right. There is no reason why men who chum with Communists, who refuse to turn their backs upon traitors and who are consistently found at the time and place where disaster strikes America and success comes to international Communism, should be given positions of power in government.”

> “The fact that these people have not been convicted of treason or of violating some of our espionage laws is no more a valid argument that they are fit to represent this country in its fight against communism than the argument that a person who has a reputation of consorting with criminals, hoodlums, gamblers, and kidnappers is fit to act as your baby sitter, because he has never been convicted of a crime.”

> While acknowledging again the existence of loyal and patriotic Democrats, McCarthy
noted those “who are now complete prisoners, under the complete domination of the bureaucratic,communistic Frankenstein which they themselves have created."

>walmart employees that live in the greater los angeles area, have 7 kids, are unmarried and morbidly obese cant afford a 1200sq ft ranch home in Santa Monica.
Any employee that is struggling at their walmart job has their priorities out of order.
Circumstances can be resolved by relocating, teaming up with family members for better living conditions and family planning rather than fucking african refugees and having their babies, wanting their own home and buying cars to drive their walmart job for 15 years.

>bro, how do you not now what plebbit is? Its the best board ever.
Your nufag is showing

>democratic socialists
In the USA that usually means social democracy, which is different.

Fuckin kek, so your whole argument is the same "not all commies are bad" bullshit you leftist fags parrot even though it has no bearing on the current argument. The fact is that there were communist subversives in the government and McCarthy did the country a favor by prosecuting them.

>prosecuting some and deterring the others
Ftfy

You know what's funny? Teaming up and consolidating resources for individuals to sustain themselves is a benchmark of communism. It's actually what Wal-Mart did to get an uneven leg on the individual. Citizens doing that in small parties and eventually governmental bodies would lead to equality and prosperity. The kind of prosperity communism tells you to chase. Idiot.

No commies are bad. Authoritarian dictators and belligerent imperialists who lie about being communists are bad. It's not a difficult concept.

>redpill me
He's whiter than you, Muhammad

Not a big fan of Molyneux but he made a detailed video about it:
youtube.com/watch?v=wljpYZ8wejA
tldw: he dindu nuffin wrong

Enlighten us

>its funny you say that, because poor people being communist to survive means the entire nation should convert to communism because placing a cap on successfull peoples aspirations is the quickest way to technological advancement and economic excellence.
Top kek. Stop being poor, fag.

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Bullshit, communism is a proxy for authoritarianism and oligarchism for anyone but the lower classes. Communism can never, will never work in modern society due to the inherent power struggle in human society. Communism in the 50's was no different. For McCarthy to call these subversives communists is easier to understand and if a few well-meaning but foolish communist politicians get caught in that net so be it. These communist subversives were a way for the Soviets to weaken the US and McCarthy recognized that.

I like you you went from an impartial observer to defending communism in just a few easy posts. Amazing!

*how

Dude , ur not even from the us wtf do u kno lel

MAGA

You're so goddamn great at tackling social issues. "Just stop being poor". My-fuck. It's E=MC^2 all over again! Brilliant work, you fucking cave dweller.

Saying Communism is necessary for Authoritarian meddling and Oligarchs to mess up an economy is a huge red flag that you've not read much into how capitalism has been progressing in the modern global economy.

Dude, I can't help it. They're using Communism as a buzz word instead of as a kicking-off point for discussions about economic structures or social stratification. They're probably just high school kids fucking around on their cell phones but I want them to know they're not on the right path in the slightest.

>he believes the commie lies
wewlad

What "commie" lie?

Also, props for using a term from 60 years ago. That doesn't make you look influenced by bullshit artists at all. People totally use the word "commie" outside of Jow Forums.

And now we're not talking about McCarthy anymore because you just moved the goalposts. I claim this argument won. Fact is any political extreme that consolidates power is bad for the lower classes which have no method for acquiring said power. My argument was simply that McCarthy was, and always will be, right.

>hey cave dweller, I dont have an argument so fuck you and YES I'm poor. I hate you generational wealth types.
Ok im going to give you your argument to make it easier for you. Ready, just tell me if you agree or not, ok? Ready?
>user, there is born talent out there right now rotting in poverty. Communism would provide those people with just enough to present their talents for the greater good. Under current capitalist circumstances, a large wealthy corp and simply use its wealth to oppress a would be talented success. See google.
Is that what youre trying to say when you start flinging shit with your name calling?

That you think communism isn't a tool used by authoritarians to seize control from a entrenched political class just shows that you are a gullible fuck that doesn't know jack shit about political history.

What happened to the mobs? They were political entities you know. where did they go?

If u are pro commie and/or pro bernie , u need to kill your self , and take your faggot friends with u

They didnt go anywhere they just got smarter just like any other faction

God damn u idiots are dumb .

They entered into official politics you numbnutt. They found a way to shift their enterprises into legality by morphing into unions, public agencies, or simply by having a lot of members run for public office.

You ever wonder why our politicians today use the same tactics mobsters of the past use to use? Because they are the same group of people.
Who killed JFK?

McCarthy was anti-communism, dude. Communism enforces the poor more than capitalism. In fact, it's the diametric opponent of capitalism. It wants labor's worth to be rewards reaped for the relevant parties. No structures of displaced benefit.

I'm not sorry I called you names because a system should be merit based. Are you calling for a system to be based towards workers with connections rather than workers who are qualified?

There are developed models of communism that avoid such pitfalls. For instance Anarcho communism. A better development for most capitalist nations would be Democratic Socialism.

>there are models of communism that avoid such issues
and there are models of the earth that show the universe is geocentric. doesn't mean it is anywhere near reality.

communism was specifically made to be a political/economical weapon, and it has done an amazing job at its goal to destabilize enemy nations by promoting class struggle and mass economic change.

>I'm not sorry I failed to present an argument and instead called you names. So rather than answering your question, I'm going to ask you a question.
Answer my question first

It's not like Lenin was put in power by a mob. That's a Leninist lie

>a system should be merit based
communism is not merit based
>from each according to their ability, to each according to their need
i.e. not meritocracy.

He was right. Watch molyneuaxs take on it.

they are no longer considered a mob when the guy they put in charge recognizes them as a political party :^).

Top kek. They show up with their shit buzzwords thinking theyre talking to their fellow faggots.

fpbb

they've been flooding the board for so long that they assume they've won.

Unlike most politicians this patriot put his ass on the line. Literally. He could have had his ass shot up over France a dozen times. This is one reason why I might consider tulsi a good candidate for president. She out her ass on the line too.
Unlike the other cowards in the field.

>Ok Jow Forums, redpill me on Joseph Mccarthy.

There were communists in America in the 1950's but the country was 95 percent Capitalist.

Today over 50 percent of people under 25 years old want communism/socialism.

McCarthy was 50 years too soon!

Alright Its clear you're a moron here for the (you)'s but the point is that communism on the 50's in America was a deliberately subversive ideology and McCarthy recognized that and is a patriot for that reason.

Oy vey why do you think, goyim

As far as I can tell tulsi does not have kids so never mind
She should not be president for this fact alone

That's not what happened. The Bolsheviks were one party facing a very heterogeneous opposition (labor unions, monarchists, left communists, social democrats, liberal republicans, peasants who just wanted to be left alone, etc). Leninist theory claims that the revolution should be carried out by the "vanguard party," which was the Bolshevik faction in this case.

Its going to take a lot more than that get rid of Jow Forums

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>Today over 50 percent of people under 25 years old want communism/socialism.
Socialism here means social democracy

If I were to fuck her today it would take 9 months or less to make her a mother. Whats your point?

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This is a Nazi website buddy. Where do you think you are? This is parallel reality where all facts are in denial

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he thought he was picking off a few communists, he didn't realize he was actually going up against the entire American establishment which was communist through and through and that they didn't really appreciate being hunted. thus his reputation was destroyed because he was too much of a threat to them. the powers he sought to challenge still control the US.

hooktube.com/watch?v=ZOtinTlx7yo