I know we like to shitpost but like, real talk, does anyone here unironically believe trump has a chance against bernie?

I know we like to shitpost but like, real talk, does anyone here unironically believe trump has a chance against bernie?

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Trump would destroy Bernie, if Bernie were to even win the democrat nomination. Tulsi would have a chance. Bernie is too cucked to actually fight.

they are not against each other. They are both from the same house that always wins. Bernie is also low tier CIA homo just like Trump

PA voter here. I voted for Sanders in the 2016 primary, and Trump in the 2016 General Election. Trump would not have won against Sanders in 2016, and he won't beat him in 2020 if that's the matchup.

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Too much dirt on Bernie. He legitimately took it in the ass from Hillary and ran away with the donation money. Remember, NO REFUNDS

Bernie has always stood against the neocons no matter how unpopular it made him. And he stood with omar against aipac. The cia hate him and basically you are fucking stupid

You dont think that AOC, Talib and Omar scare the old people ? Old people are pretty anti socialism.

Bernie won't even make it to the general. The DNC will see to that, and Bernie will sit back and take it because he's cucked af.

he never stood against anything. You know he is one of the stand ins. Like one rollercoaster that is standing against another rollercoaster in the same amusement park. You already paid admission price.

Old people vote party over candidate, they don't switch. 12% of bernies supporters went to trump and many abstained. It's extremely unlikely that bernie would have lost. And even old people are sick of establishment candidates now.

It's more of the fact that Trump cannot pivot to his populist message in the Rust Belt states (which is where Trump won the election by less than 100,000 votes combined). Sanders is against the same trade deals that screwed over the people in these states, and that's why I would give the advantage to Sanders to keep those states blue.

Against gulf war, against iraq war, hell, for most of his career he wasn't even a dem. And most of the issues he champions now are popular because HE championed and pioneered them, not because they were popular ideas he jumped aboard on.

This will be the old kikes last run. He will fail and die shortly after. Digits confirm

They don't have a choice. The dnc probably prefer trump but bernie is too overwhelmingly popular to keep up pretenses.

The left is crazier than ever. He might be too white and the other candidates have stolen his platform this time around.

Hopefully he doesn't get JFK'd.

Bernie capitulated pretty hard when there was ample evidence he had been cheated. How effective would he even be, if he were lucky enough to be prez ? Trump is fairly normie and is crippled. A socialist has no chance to enact their platform.

It depends on how hard he goes with the socialism, and identity politics. If he goes out there and goes full feel the bern shirtless singing the USSR anthem democratic socialist, then he is going to tank. If he walks back that stuff, and says "I campaigned for civil rights, and I want to assure the rich pay their fair share. I do not want socialism." he is going to win the suburban vote, since he can't lose the hard left urban vote. If he makes it to the point where he is going up against Trump without having the bang the socialism drum to hard.

2016 might have, since the conservatives were worried he'd not be in line with their policies, and occasional cortex had not happened yet.

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shut the fuck up you lying piece of shit faggot because there is no such thing as an anti war candidate. none. they dont fucking exist

What would bernie have gained by making a scene? He wouldn't look like a leader, he'd look like a poor loser and a poor strategist, establishment would pin trumps victory on him.
I'm sorry but it's just a fact that he never flipflopped on the matter.

Also just to clarify, I doubt bernie is inherently anti war to a naive degree, he just doesn't suck military industrial complex cock.

It would have cemented his reputation as someone who stands for what is right, in the face of adversity and possible career ruin.

No old white man is going to win the democratic nomination. And no Bernie wouldn’t beat trump. People don’t want to pay for his stupid policies.

It would mean he would never ever ever be president. It would be ego, it would have cemented him as someone that doesn't believe what he's doing needs to be done.

all fucking commies must fucking hang

Trump does not stand a fucking chance, his entire base has abandoned him. Bernie is obviously gonna win the presidency unless the establishment sees to it that he doesn’t. Case closed

All you have to do to win vs trump is show up.

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Absolutely yes

T. Someone that doesn't know fuck all. Biden would be crushed by trump. He is the same thing. It'd be hillary all over again.
Right now is the best time to have a white man as dem candidate, it's not like the identity politicians would go to trump

If the dnc bends Bernie over again, should he take it like a good party apparachik again ?

No. I don't see how they could, though

Same way they did last time

>No old white man is going to win the democratic nomination.

You're exactly wrong. The only way to win the 2020 election is to flip the battleground states, these are the rust belt states. Identity politics doesn't appeal to rust belt voters and the DNC should be smart enough to realize this now that Hillary "popular votes" Clinton is no longer at the helm. They will choose a candidate that white working class people will like.

You think they'd get away with that when bernie gets 99% of the votes?

Can't wait for the round two
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The media has not changed one iota. The dnc was not held accountable. it worked last time and Bernie didnt fight it, why wouldnt they ?

Bernie is the only one who MIGHT have a chance against Trump but the DNC will not allow a white male to be the nominee. They will only nominate someone who would be "the first ___ president". So that's Kamala Harris, unless a LGBT runs.

Kamala wouldn't even beat tulsi or warren. She's a pig