The Holly Bible Thread Discussion Part 1: Jesus's miracles

In the Bible, Jesus is shown numerous times performing miracles in order to convince people that he is the son of God. But are these miracles all true, little exaggerated or outright fictional? Today, we are gonna discuss three important miracles:
1. Jesus walking on water,
2. Jesus turning water into wine,
3. Jesus raising people from dead.

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all true. check those

First miracle: millions of people believe these bullshits.

I would not really call those miracles "bullshits", but I do think that these miracles have been created by people as a metaphor to what Jesus actually did. I'll explain in another reply.

Miracle 1: Jesus walking on water.
This miracle is a metaphor for Jesus making people regain faith in themselves in times of great tragedy or danger.

Miracle 2: Jesus turning water into wine.
Jesus certainly DID NOT turn water into wine, however, since Jesus said that wine represents the "blood", this miracle could have been a metaphor for water being a part of our soul, and how ancient civilizations were built near rivers, aka, water symbolizes "Life".

Miracle 3: Jesus raising people from dead.
Jesus loved his people, that's for sure, especially children. This miracle is a metaphor for Jesus's undying love for the people, and how love is always immortal.

I hope I explained these miracles in most logical way mate.

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>implying that some no name born in the middle of nowhere managed to have his word spread across the entire globe isnt evidence enough that its all true

Anyone else ever read The Essene Gosel Of Peace? Allegedly part of the bible that was removed? It's pretty interesting, especially the fasting part to cleans the body of parasites, and Jesus picks up a rock and smashes them, referring to them as satan.
Link if interested.
essene.com/GospelOfPeace/peace1.html

Lmao true man.

i actually think its meant to mirror the sun which is a commonly used symbol of God.
He had 12 apostles like the 12 zodiacs. He walked on water like the sun standing on it when rising and setting at the horizon. Turned water into wine by giving light to the grapes which do that. Made the blind see by giving light (another common trope), healing the sick as lack of sun can make you sick. raising the dead aka giving life just like the sun does through giving warmth and energy. He was dead and then rose again on the 3rd day like the sun during the wintersolstice being "dead" (at its lowest) for 3 days to then rise again etc.

Good idea man, I'll check it out.

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So basically the Sun here represents the God? Damn so that means the God was sun all fucking along.. or maybe I am just being all stupid, who knows.

Of course all those miracles happened ... do you think a human was able to pull off this magic trick of leaving his full body imprint in his burial cloths and vanish completely if they weren’t true??

The shroud of Turin is no fluke accident .. and the dna test proves a virgin birth..

The Turin Shroud data show 107 (106+1) but not trace of a 112 base pair gene. The Oviedo Cloth data show 105 (106-1) but no trace of a 112 base pair. The X chromosome is present, but there is no evidence of a Y chromosome. This is the expected signature of … virgin birth, the XX male generated by an SRY inserted into an X chromosome. It is not what would be expected of a standard male.
fellowshipoftheminds.com/the-christmas-miracle-scientific-evidence-of-the-virgin-birth

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checked, praise Christ!

mein absoluter neger

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no, i wouldnt say he is the sun. its just the best equivalent to him
>the brightest and biggest object in the sky (most powerfull)
>provides life
there is a reason why people back then claimed to be the sun king and shit.

Most likely. Btw, can you please explain me why most people joke about Christians denying evolution lmao? Like seriously, in my country, most people are christians but still take evolution as a fact. Only couple of people deny it.

>forgets to say that this religion has been spreading by war, blood, colonization, crusades, murders, genocide...

fpbp
/thread

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>forgets that there were constant wars all around and with the rise of christianity these came to a halt for the most part
>ignores that lots of the wars were merely defending from aggressors.

So did the Communism, Democracy and pretty much any ideology that isn't afraid to fight for domination.

Oh and did you know that you sound like those gun advocates?
>Christianity have been responsible for countless murdersss >>>>:(
>THEREFORE WE SHOULD BAN IT JUST LIEK GUNZZ

Fuck off, Jew worshipping race-traitor scum.
Shouldn't you be volunteering at a refugee center

Abrahamic faiths you would win

>Christianity
>Judiasm
>Communism
>Libertarianism
>Islam
>Freemason = gnostic occult
>Templar British elite = gnostic occult
>Modern Vatican = gnostic occult
>Luciferian = gnostic occult
>Transhumanism = neo-gnostic
>Natbol/Alt-right = neo-gnostic occult
>Hollywood = neo-gnostic occult
>Alex Jones = occult freemason
>Conservatives = christian zionists

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>Implying that I am race traitor scum
Nigger, can you please fuck off if you are gonna insult and not actually discuss?

Kikes are the Edomites, not Judeans
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edom
>The Edomites first established a kingdom ("Edom") in the southern area of modern Jordan and later migrated into southern parts of the Kingdom of Judah ("Idumea", or modern southern Israel/Negev) when Judah was first weakened and then destroyed by the Babylonians
Eventually they were forced to convert
>They were again subdued by John Hyrcanus (c. 125 BC), who forcibly converted them, among others, to Judaism

And around that same time the Pharisee that follow the oral law
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pharisees
>The Pharisees preserved the Pharisaical oral law in the form of the Talmud
like we have today the kikes follow the Tal Mud and which was repeatedly rebuked by Jesus, telling them they are children of Satan.

Now Edomites are the descendents of Essau, the brother of Jacob/Israel who decided to wage war his brother and his people.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edom
>The Hebrew word Edom means "red", and is derived from the name of its founder Esau

Now to do this Essau joined Amalek
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amalek
>According to the Bible, Amalek was the son of Eliphaz (himself the son of Esau, ancestor of the Edomites

Which thus, together with Essau became the Edomites (plus a couple other things mixed in likely).
The Amalek are known as Israels nemesis and who fits the whites nemesis better than the kikes? The Amalek are a canaanite tribe. Canaan is the son of Ham who was one of the three sons of Noah (Abraham coming from Shem, S(h)emites). Now the Hamites are traditionally black and indeed canaans curse hints to him becoming a slave like the blacks did. Furthermore i believe the biblical first black (can go into this) was Cain, who himself was the son of Eve and the serpent. This is the line of kikes, those that say they are jews, but are liars instead. The Synagogue of Satan and they came through the Hamitic line, thus are basically white skinned niggers

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so the closest relation the kikes have to the israelites is through Esau who mixed himself into the canaanites

Esau originally had the birthright to take over the tribe as a first born. However after a day of work on the field he went inside and asked his brother for something to drink or eat, for which Jacob demanded Esaus birthright. Esau agreed, and thus got what he wanted and Jacob got the birthright from Esau. However after this Esau wanted it back, Jacob didnt want to return it, and thus Esau parted from his family, joined a canaanite tribe that became known as Amalek (the Israelites nemesis) to wage war on Jacob/Israel. These eventually (likely with a couple others mixed into) became the Edomites which are todays Kikes. And to this day they still demand the birthright back from Israel (The white man). Their hate of whites is actually envy, they want what we have. Thats why they undergo plastic surgery to appear more european, take on germanic last names and yiddish is even just some fake german. They try to genocide whites so that they can take their position of chosen people they believe they inherited from Esau, without anyone else being left to rightfully claim that position.

Other than the kikes however Esau made up with Jacob/Israel again eventually, but (((they))) refuse to follow the lead to this day.

When you now read what the bible says about the Canaanites or Amalek specifically it gets very clear that they everything but chosen. King Herod that commanded to kill all the children under 2 in betlehem when he feared he could take his thrown, also was an Edomite.

Also aside from saying that kikes are of satan, hypocrites, a den of vipers etc it preaches literally against everything the kikes try to push
>degeneracy of any kind, especially sexual
>racemixing
>mass immigration
>materialism/hedonism/nihilism
>destruction of the family
>usury

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checked

Fucking based man.

fpbp

>this spam again
YOu will not fool anyone with your lies.

>(((Darwin)))

Jesus did literal miracles also to explain metaphors to us like a child needing pictures instead of letters in a book

The great old ones of this world were builders, you can find their incomprehensible monuments in every land.
Jesus claim to "godhood/divinity", can be based on nothing else but those great ones that came before him.
Jesus miracles "citation needed" were minor things only effecting a few people within arms reach.
He may have been correct in his claim to have the old blood, and i have seen evidence he was the son of a priestess in the Hathor temple.
However the blood seems to have been watered down to almost irrelevance by that point.
He built nothing, he failed to unify his followers and form a society.
We hung him on a cross and watched him fade out.
He left no pyramids, no stabas, no ziggurats, no stelae, no great monumental machines.
He laid claim to that which he could not replicate or hold on to.
He was the last of the Nephilim, we killed him, and for better and worse, the age of man truly began.

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>no argument against it

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OH FOR FUCK SAKES, IS THERE LITERALLY ANYTHING IN THIS WORLD THAT IS NOT ASSOCIATED WITH JEWS? HOLD UP LET ME CHECK MYSELF...
HOLLY SHIT NIGGA, I FUCKING CHECKED AND REALISED THAT I AM 000.000.009.975% JEWISH.

Have a bump, brother
I wish to read later have to go to the gym, peace be with you

Woah denying the miracles? Skimmed through, never mind that’s some mental gymnastics. Still peace be with you though

Against what? Your lies that White Europeans are somehow Jews? It's a clear lie. It's bullshit made up by retards trying to justify following a jewish religion. They said "well, mayeb if we say we're jews then it'll be okay".

(OP)
I'm not sure compromising one's interpretation of Jesus' miracles to appear more "logical' is as convincing as it might appear desperate. The fact is, God would have no problem performing actual miracles. So conceding that they're really just metaphors could just appear as weakness, rather than holding strong to one's convictions. For anyone not admitting Jesus is God, His performing of miracles is hardly the reason.

evolution actually has a few issues. for once we dont have a single "missing link", that is a fossil of a species in the process of transitioning to another. we have on species and suddenly another pops up even though the change is too big to not be a gradual change, but for this gradual change we just dont have any evidence. we just assume its there or else evolution doesnt hold up.
additionally the possible combination of the basepairs are so many that there simply was not enought time to actually get a functioning DNA code that can do anything if the only method to add them is by random (pic related)
then its by default an unobservable theory as by definition it takes so long for evolution to take place that there is simply no way to observe it.
Its basically just guesswork.

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I dunno really but I would still consider Jesus to be son of God, even if all these miracles get proven to be just metaphors on how great Jesus was.

Heresy

>tfw convinced that the only meaningful mode of existence is the truly religious life in service of the highest good, but can't muster up any genuine faith and so am forced to live out an unsatisfactory agnostic existence

Does anybody else know this feel? I'm absolutely convinced of the psychological benefits of religion, but that's just not enough

then refute any of those points in that posts, or these ones
The white race, the caucasoids are the actual chosen people, the Israeli people. This gets clear already when you see that Mount Aratat, where Noah landed with his arc is the same place where the white people, caucasusoids, come frome from, the Caucasus
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caucasus
de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ararat
It is also known that the blue eyed people all have a common anchestor
sciencedaily.com/releases/2008/01/080130170343.htm
Which most likely was Noah

Furthermore the blue eyed white people are known across the world to come around and bring technology and knowledge and rule them for some time like the seed of promise is prophesized to do.
The sumerians believed the blue eyed white people where gods, the annunaki (even though i came to believe that the blue eyed possibly are other people during the sumerians, they at least have the blue eyed people and swastika as well).
The Aztecs as well, and describe them from coming over the sea with a ship that moved on its own.
The chinese talk about blue eyed and blonde haired people who created a civilization and ruled for some time. A lot of egyptians mummies are shown to have had blonde hair etc.
And Europeans were the first in the Americas as well
telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/howaboutthat/9110838/Stone-age-Europeans-were-the-first-to-set-foot-on-North-America.html

Hitlers Ahnenerbe tried to find out about the origins of the white people, and maybe he did find out the actual israelis are the whites with the jews being the blue eyed people, who are said that they will spread across the earth and rule everywhere. Same they did during colonisations. Hitler found out the (((jews))) of today arent the jews of the bible who are just
>those who belong to the synagogue of Satan, who claim to be Jews but are liars instead.

The "white privilege" people go on about, is actually the blessing of God

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The bible story is actual real history. This gets clear when you look at the story of Joseph alone. Joseph, in the bible, was sold off as slave to egypt, where he became friends with the pharao and married his daughter. He was given authority over everything. Compare that with the Yuya-mummie which was blond by the way.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yuya
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joseph_(Genesis)

Hitlers "Herrenrasse" probably was meant to mean "Rasse des Herrn" "Race of the Lord"
The 1000 year Reich was meant to be the 1000 year Sabbath, the 7th day which never happened because Satan interrupted it and which is for God like a thousand years.
This is why the Nazis had a sense of superiority like the Israelis had for the goyim.
The (((Jew))), like everything, stole their identity from others. Just like they took german names, have plastic surgery to look more white, act white when it suits them they stole their whole identity of being a jew from the whites

right from the bible
>20 King Arius of the Spartans.
>To the high priest Onias. Greetings!
>21 It has been discovered in a written record that the Spartans and the Jews are relatives and are both of the family of Abraham. 22 Since we have learned this, please let us know how you are. 23 On our part, we write to let you know that what is yours—your livestock and property—belongs to us, and ours belongs to you. We therefore command that our envoys report to you in keeping with this.

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Note that hebrew like we know it exist like this like the middle of the 19th century.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hebrew_language
>Archaic Biblical Hebrew from the 10th to the 6th century BCE, corresponding to the Monarchic Period until the Babylonian Exile and represented by certain texts in the Hebrew Bible (Tanakh), notably the Song of Moses (Exodus 15) and the Song of Deborah (Judges 5). Also called Old Hebrew or Paleo-Hebrew. It was written in the Paleo-Hebrew alphabet. A script descended from this, the Samaritan alphabet, is still used by the Samaritans.
Originally the bible was written in Paleo-Hebrew.

Pic related, left is Paleo Hebrew and on the right the Vinca Runes found across europe, mainly central and southeast giving a further connection between those
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paleo-Hebrew_alphabet
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vinča_symbols
given a further connection that the real isralites and chosen people are the aryans

piramidasunca.ba/bs/latest-news/item/3495-the-oldest-writing-in-the-world-has-been-decoded.html
>(1) O Three-One God of the land of Thrace,
>(2) I vow in Truth to bring you all due offerings, O great Son of God,
>(3) And only you (shall) I praise (and exalt), O my God (for you are) great!
>(4) You who are now in your temple, (I pray, hear me), keep me safe and deliver me (from all evil)!
Three one god, the trinity being a theme in the oldest text we have deciphered so far. The trinity is another theme which draws itself across a lot of culture, from sumer to egypt, to the Nordics and of course christianity written in the Vinca Runes, found in Bulgaria (Balkans)

behindthename.com/name/adam
>This is the Hebrew word for "man". It could be ultimately derived from Hebrew אדם ('adam) meaning "to be red", referring to the ruddy colour of human skin
red, like whites are right after birth or when too long in the sun

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How the hell am I heretic for trying to find true meaning behind these miracles?

Sorry user, but you are right and wrong.
Many teachings from the Old and new testament contain metaphors, are taught in parables, or have other literary devices so as to pass down moral laws through the vehicle of abstraction, which humans are so gifted at learning through. So in some sense, many of the teachings that Jesus gave, were abstract. However, the actions which Jesus took, like all of those listed above - and most importantly his death and resurrection - are literal.

Through Jesus' immutable divine and human qualities, inseparable and indistinguishable from one another, he transcended natural law and his mortal form. The only reason the Bible, and the life and death of Jesus Christ is so compelling is because of its truthfulness. Jesus was God's spoken word manifesting itself among mortal and fallible creatures.

If you don't think an infinite and omnipotent God can do this, you are making the mistake of assuming He works in ways man can fully comprehend.

Only NPCs believe in evolution you braindead faggot.

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Based 88 get and christpilled

biblestudy.org/bibleref/meaning-of-numbers-in-bible/8.html
> Eight is the number of Jesus, whose name in the Greek adds up to 888.

fpbp as always.

Yeah but world went shit because of elites, masons, intelligence community, m/billionaire who used Jews, Christians, and Muslims as excuse to advance their agendas which generates endless problems for the whole? For what? disgusting freaks

reminder that this is a christian board and that God himself claimed it on multiple occasions

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Checked. Praise the Lord !

Jesus cast demons out of a man into a pig.

These are my own personal theories:

Walking on water-pretty easy to imitate if you have a good knowledge of an area at low tide with a really long bar of mud or sand.

Truning water into wine-pretty easy if he had access to some kind of pure alcohol or very high proof stuff, and odds are good as he was familiar with lots of crazy sects in the wilderness and desert that were probably brewing up who knows what.

Raising the dead-obviously the people werent really dead, maybe on just some kind of depressant and jesus slipped them some stimulant or smelling salts or something.

Five loaves and two fishes: what they might leave out is oil and a fire, you can take some bread, real bread, and smash it up with some fish and let it bubble and rise from the yeast, the salt, and the fish decay and then fry it and you could feed a lot of people that way.

As above so below

Love you Jesus!
What a great guy.

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yes

how did he make the star appear before birth to let the three magi find him?

Based and Christ-pilled.

>how great Jesus was.
>was
psyop detected. OP isn't a Christian. Really think on this, OP. What do you have to gain from influencing retards -- the only people here who would be convinced by your bullshit?

Never forget the fish.

Luke 5 King James Version (KJV)

1 And it came to pass, that, as the people pressed upon him to hear the word of God, he stood by the lake of Gennesaret,

2 And saw two ships standing by the lake: but the fishermen were gone out of them, and were washing their nets.

3 And he entered into one of the ships, which was Simon's, and prayed him that he would thrust out a little from the land. And he sat down, and taught the people out of the ship.

4 Now when he had left speaking, he said unto Simon, Launch out into the deep, and let down your nets for a draught.

5 And Simon answering said unto him, Master, we have toiled all the night, and have taken nothing: nevertheless at thy word I will let down the net.

6 And when they had this done, they inclosed a great multitude of fishes: and their net brake.

7 And they beckoned unto their partners, which were in the other ship, that they should come and help them. And they came, and filled both the ships, so that they began to sink.

8 When Simon Peter saw it, he fell down at Jesus' knees, saying, Depart from me; for I am a sinful man, O Lord.

9 For he was astonished, and all that were with him, at the draught of the fishes which they had taken:

10 And so was also James, and John, the sons of Zebedee, which were partners with Simon. And Jesus said unto Simon, Fear not; from henceforth thou shalt catch men.

11 And when they had brought their ships to land, they forsook all, and followed him.

12 And it came to pass, when he was in a certain city, behold a man full of leprosy: who seeing Jesus fell on his face, and besought him, saying, Lord, if thou wilt, thou canst make me clean.

13 And he put forth his hand, and touched him, saying, I will: be thou clean. And immediately the leprosy departed from him.

14 And he charged him to tell no man: but go, and shew thyself to the priest, and offer for thy cleansing, according as Moses commanded, for a testimony unto them.

15 But so much the more went there a fame abroad of him: and great multitudes came together to hear, and to be healed by him of their infirmities.

16 And he withdrew himself into the wilderness, and prayed.

17 And it came to pass on a certain day, as he was teaching, that there were Pharisees and doctors of the law sitting by, which were come out of every town of Galilee, and Judaea, and Jerusalem: and the power of the Lord was present to heal them.

18 And, behold, men brought in a bed a man which was taken with a palsy: and they sought means to bring him in, and to lay him before him.

... because Jesus/God always was and will be...

19 And when they could not find by what way they might bring him in because of the multitude, they went upon the housetop, and let him down through the tiling with his couch into the midst before Jesus.

20 And when he saw their faith, he said unto him, Man, thy sins are forgiven thee.

21 And the scribes and the Pharisees began to reason, saying, Who is this which speaketh blasphemies? Who can forgive sins, but God alone?

22 But when Jesus perceived their thoughts, he answering said unto them, What reason ye in your hearts?

23 Whether is easier, to say, Thy sins be forgiven thee; or to say, Rise up and walk?

24 But that ye may know that the Son of man hath power upon earth to forgive sins, (he said unto the sick of the palsy,) I say unto thee, Arise, and take up thy couch, and go into thine house.

25 And immediately he rose up before them, and took up that whereon he lay, and departed to his own house, glorifying God.

26 And they were all amazed, and they glorified God, and were filled with fear, saying, We have seen strange things to day.

27 And after these things he went forth, and saw a publican, named Levi, sitting at the receipt of custom: and he said unto him, Follow me.

28 And he left all, rose up, and followed him.

29 And Levi made him a great feast in his own house: and there was a great company of publicans and of others that sat down with them.

30 But their scribes and Pharisees murmured against his disciples, saying, Why do ye eat and drink with publicans and sinners?

31 And Jesus answering said unto them, They that are whole need not a physician; but they that are sick.

32 I came not to call the righteous, but sinners to repentance.

33 And they said unto him, Why do the disciples of John fast often, and make prayers, and likewise the disciples of the Pharisees; but thine eat and drink?

34 And he said unto them, Can ye make the children of the bridechamber fast, while the bridegroom is with them?

35 But the days will come, when the bridegroom shall be taken away from them, and then shall they fast in those days.

36 And he spake also a parable unto them; No man putteth a piece of a new garment upon an old; if otherwise, then both the new maketh a rent, and the piece that was taken out of the new agreeth not with the old.

37 And no man putteth new wine into old bottles; else the new wine will burst the bottles, and be spilled, and the bottles shall perish.

38 But new wine must be put into new bottles; and both are preserved.

39 No man also having drunk old wine straightway desireth new: for he saith, The old is better.

We're already in hell. These digits don't lie.

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yes, i meant from the angle of that user that tried to rationalize the miracles.

The real miracle is that elites who follow him are frauds! They are making a lot of money, abusing the system, and agreeing with Jews to cheat on people. Those arent good people. I could tell that most of them didnt study and went to dollars in name of Jesus!

It's a miracle that people forget he was a Jew, his disciples were all Jew who led a new Jewish movement against high priest and wealthy jews who held the power.

>it's a miracle that other people don't understand my extremely obvious objection. they must all be stupid herp derp
How about try actually understanding as opposed to just assuming everyone whom doesn't have the opinions you've so-well conceived is just not as enlightened as you?

the elite worships satan, and satan is "ruling" this world through temptation and lies. Those following evil have currently an edge over good as they are not "held back" by morals and ethics (big part of crowleys work and masonry it seems to) being to overcome these morals and ethics, thel law of God which they perceive as chains that hold them back.
But that is why God ensured us: The first will be the last, and the last will be the first.

>being this wrong

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>1. Jesus walking on water
Never happened

>2. Jesus turning water into wine
Never happened
>3. Jesus raising people from dead
Never happened

...you're welcome...

Say that on your death bed, Bob, you stupid fuckface.

dont get mad or they already won. pitty them for they are so deceived

>OP is not a christian

Proof needed bitch

chill out pirate boy, they're just allegories. walking on water is the sun setting, water to wine is the seasons passing and grapes growing, and raising the dead is enlightening people with wisdom through the light of the sun. he is the sun.
just check out greek isopsophy or gematria.

Nothing can truly be proven, that is why faith exists. Also asking why literally God can do things which are beyond the abilities of humans is retarded. Christ has two natures, human and divine. Thus, he was born on Earth to see how people deal with crap. He also has the divine nature, which gives him abilities to do whatever he wishes. Thus, he does miracles to show he is the son of God. He performs miracles because he knows people on this Earth are cucks, and they need material proof to believe in something, and when they saw his miracles, they believed. This is why God could do things humans can't do, cuz he's God.

I am reading the book of Apocalipse. It's so dumb... Do you guys really believes in that horseshit?

That is the most metaphorical book in the bible. Maybe read stories of the saints if you want stories of Christianity which are most proven to have happened .

You must be new there. Your angry objection is the proof. Have a bump.

>that is why faith exists
except for all those people who saw Jesus doing miracles, they had proof.

A staunch atheist would immediately dismiss that "proof" as hallucination or some such. Exhibit A: actual atheists. btw first time I've ever used "staunch." Amazing how the mind just recalls certain words.

maybe someone here is interested

/thread, praise Jesus

What is ALIUMS and CHOOPAKABRA and BIGFOOT.

Retarded cunt.

YANG GANG YANG GANG
YANG GANG YANG GANG
YANG GANG YANG GANG
YANG GANG YANG GANG

>he thinks those things arent real
lmao

reminder that kikes are not actual Judeans or israelites, not even semites and that the real israelites are the whites So whites created Yahweism which then turned into Christianity while the pagan myths also strongly correlate with the bible.
There is some grounds to argue that Buddhism and Hinduism came from whites as well and here too you see some parallels to the bible in the teachings and stories and their generally white casts
Kikes created Judaism which is based on the Tal Mud that is pilpul to argue to follow the OT without doing so.

yes Zeus did all those miracles and no one cared
because original sin is doubt.

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>We Wuz Semites!!!!!!!!!

What you are trying to say is literally impossible because the language the ancient Israelite's spoke Hebrew is still around and is classified as a SEMITIC LANGUAGE not a European language

>Hebrew is a Semitic language native to Israel;
>wiki/Hebrew_language

It makes me the sadness that people are stupid enough to believe whatever is convenient for them. I met this guy on facebook who unironically believes all that viking shit because he's seen one too many varg videos, yet judges me for being a christian.

hebrew wasnt spoken since the 5th century and only was revived in the 19th again by kikes as part of their LARP. the writing they originally used to write the bible (paleo hebrew) also happens to resemble that of the in europe found vinca runes, the oldest writing we have found so far, and the oldest tablet of it we found speaks of a trinity God.

Also if i happen to learn japanese am i then also a nip? why then would not speaking hebrew mean that they are not Israelites, especially after millenias have passed.
feel free to refute any of the points in the posts i linked earlier.

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bump for jesus

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