My GF claims Venezuelas current issues are a result of America's meddling in their affairs and not the failure of communism. Is there any truth to this?
My GF claims Venezuelas current issues are a result of America's meddling in their affairs and not the failure of...
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No.
Brown people, Communism, and failure go together like cheese and chilis on a tamale.
They took out a shit ton of loans banking on they'd have a constant income from oil sales. They never diversified their economy so when oil prices tanked everything went to shit.
Her logic is that Venuzuela was an oil country and that's our Bread n Butter
Stop feeding her.
you should get her to be more specific about what america is/was doing
she will probably crumble at this point
The United State is the root of all problems in south America
People need to STOP with the "MUH OIL IN VENEZUELA" shit. Two things make the whole thing bunk: The specific grade of oil that is common to Venezuela is dogshit, they need to IMPORT oil to mix with it so that it can be efficiently refined. Also, Maduro fired about 80,000 experienced oil workers when he nationalized the Venezuela oil system, and when everthing fell apart due to mismanagement and outright ineptitude he started blaming America. I doubt the CIA even had to make some memes on the Internet to cause that shithole country to implode.
This is an interesting post. I have wondered about Canada basing their economy in the oil game when we have so much resources. It's all a shell game. Hell, do we even need to have an "export" economy?
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There's no reason Venezuela shouldn't be equivalent to Saudi Arabia. Almost exactly the same IQ, both rich in oil. If anything Venezuela should be better because it has a much milder climate.
We have an export economy of a 3rd world country: export raw materials while importing manufactured goods and the resulting trade deficit.
I wish Abby Martin was my GF...
Your hand is an idiot OP
NO. Like all females your girlfriend is a blithering imbecile who should be ignored.. just tell her to make you a sammich or do the laundry.
>it's either one or the other
henlo fucktard
When does the U.S. ever meddle in that region's affairs?
This
Tell the silly bitch that the country with the one of the world's largest oil reserves just had a nationwide blackout that lasted nearly a week.
THAT'S how well socialism works.
Tell her exports aren't going to impair the hyperinflation that Venezuelas has.
Your GF is a fucking chavista. Venezuela is on the brink of implosion because Cuba and the chavistas ruined her. America has nothing to do with the collapse.
Canada has a shit ton of :Oil Sands", but again those take a TON of extra processing/resources to be efficiently refined. Emissions from the development of the tar sands create 2-4 times more greenhouse gases than conventional oil. "Tailings" are the toxic sludge created by the process of mining tar sands. The tailings are kept in large “lakes” created to store the waste indefinitely. Mining operations in the tars sands are licensed to use 652 million cubic meters of water each year. This is about 7 times as much as the annual water needs of the Edmonton area. Almost none of that water is returned. This is just a bit of why the oil extracted from oil sands commands a much lower price on the commodities market than the standard setters of Brent Crude and West Texas Intermediate Crude (WTI). It's been a while since I researched oil refining in North/South America so things may have change somewhat by now.
Yeah, it's true. We are fucked.
Consider how every small nation that has ever tried communism has been always sabotaged, meddled and sanctioned. Do you see a pattern? this said, the real reason you shouldnt go left is because the ones in charge do not want it.
PINOCHET DID NOTHING WRONG MOTHER FUCKER
serious, jsut point out Chile.
Partly, American interference may be exacerbating their problems but their own mismanagement by deciding to put all their eggs in one basket with their oil. They put themselves in the shitter because they lacked any foresight.
Saudi Arabia does the same exact thing, but add ridiculous vanity real estate projects and camel fucking
partially. Globo-homo is ham-stringing them economically, but it their is own fault because they revolted against the international usury with sodomy system without being competent enough to govern themselves sovereignty, despite sitting on the most valuable resources in the Western hemisphere.
Dump your GF, user. She's irrevocably retarded.
Sounds to me like that little bourgie doesn't understand real communism. There are no borders or nations under communism, so it's not like a foreign nation was meddling in Venezuala's business. It was Venezualans redistributing resources according to their needs, which is not only understandable, but also entirely moral.
Personally, I salute the Venezualans in taking the initiative. I myself have spent many years living under an oppressive capitalist regime that doesn't acknowledge my equal ownership in Venezuala, nor does it recognise my inalienable right to use Venezuala's resources according to my personal needs. But they are absolutely correct - those resources as as much mine as anybody's. And I too have a strong need to see aid packages set alight so I am delighted to see my Venezualan comrades acting on my behalf.
Workers of the world, unite!
just tell her diversity is a strength and only nazis would insist that a nation be run by its native citizens
>Consider how every small nation that has ever tried communism has been always sabotaged, meddled and sanctioned.
Even big countries like russia and china got fucked by communism. Socialism fails because it makes no economic sense.
Venezuela's economic "lost decades" of the 1980s & 1990s, leading up to Chavez:
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BBC documentary "Inside The Coup" with live coverage of the April 2002 Pedro Carmona coup with targeted killings. Start around 31:20 and watch only 15 minutes.
OPEC dumping supply in order to harm North American fracking interests was the last straw. It was also a pointless move on their part. Some billionaires lose some money in the short term, but that oil isn’t going anywhere and when OPEC’s easy to get oil is used up we will be sitting pretty.
Your bombardier jets are kind of nice.
Do you have one of the soviets that made ours necessary?
I'm Mexican and I have seen stupid shit in my life, your public onahole seized the cake pretty hard right here.
>Socialism fails because it makes no economic sense.
I think you mean "Communism", and yes it makes no economic sense because its not based upon the free market trade ideal. And it fails because we live in a free market world. Only a foolwould try to swing against the river just to follow a romantic ideal.
canada and the UK are also good examples of failing communist countries
well if by "meddling" he means refusing to trade with them then sure, i guess
>Americans
Nope
Here’s your chance to give her the hardest redpill
There’s a very short list of which Venezuela is on
I bet she can name the others if you hold her hand
>be china
"Aww Benejuela ohh sowee mista merica bad guy yesyes he is so cowwupt and onry was oiru from you. Ret china herupu bring powa back yesyyesyes we bing powa back. But then you owe us your main ports for 99 yearsok? indebt to us for ever yes? Merica inbade you not nice nasty merica yesyes but China good guy best guy we onry crippuru you economy and own your through usury instead :)?"
>actually gets oil instead of US like a boss
>everything is America's fault
#6,000,000
A lack of the rule of law is the reason Venezuela is failing. The Chavez regime started communist guerilla organizations in the various neighborhoods of the country so that on a local level just saying something "disloyal" could get you jumped by commie antifa types.... then Chavez gave those groups guns. They're called "collectives".
Then the Venezuelan FBI is more like the Gestapo. They arrest people without charges and hold them indefinitely. Then they go to the families of the people they arrest and tell them to pay up or something even worse will happen to their loved one. They ignore the courts when convenient and only answer to the political insiders.
Thirdly Chavez started programs where the government steals businesses and enacts price controls which garauntee lack of availability of basic goods. The whole thing is a mess and has very little to do with American meddling.
Colombia, the state that has been most supportive of the US, has been pretty much fine once the cartels there were rooted out, as much as a Latin American country CAN be fine, at least. People would just say they're the beneficiaries of imperialist collaboration or whatever, typical indio mindset. What is gained by LARPing about being el vanguard de la resistencia de los yanquis when they're the main buyers of your oil? Pure stupidity.