If GDP is all that matters, why can't the West invade Russia?

Well because some things can't be bought. Kiev was dripping with gold when mongols came, didn't help them one bit. On the other hand moscov was poor as hell, but the exact thing allowed them to survive much better.

Well, what are those things that only Russia has and the West wants but can't buy? Surely you can name a few.

nukes, s400s, t34s, kicked german butts... There are many reasons

Because it'd be a logistical nightmare for USA or Europe to ever invade Russia.
Either you go through West Russia where you'll meet most of their army. In USAs case they'd have to spend billion just to haul enough troops and equipment to X region(s) to get a foothold, places that are prime targets for Russian to strike back and cause millions and millions worth of damage.
Attacking through Siberia is out of the question, nobody sane is not gonna spend time and resources trecking big army through tundra and taiga where enough harm can be caused by blowing a big hole in middle of the road with 10kg of C4 or something. Add in the unhospitable seasons where during winters you'll have -40 celsius and lower winters and during summers it turns into a fuckhuge swamp.
Playing with missiles and aerial attacks is a plan but both can do the same thing. It is not guaranteed win. Then there's nukes, Pandoras Box that nobody is willing to open.

What is Mackinder's Heartland Pivot Theory, for $100 Alex?

The only way really is chinese human waves, as a 1bil+ country they could throw 50-100 in the east easily, like korea, they got more ppl than russia shells (at least in the east), would they resort to nukes is the question

Better question, if Russia is so weak and a paper tiger then why is it "extremely dangerous to their democracy"?

Are you a child? What you wrote is kindergarten tier understanding of warfare.

ARE YOU A RETARD? DO YOU REMEMBER WORLD WAR ONE?????????

China can blot the sun over russia just catapulting the ones with low social score into them (with a kilo tnt tied to their neck ruskies got no chance but to retaliate with nukes, s400 missiles are too costly to shoot down chinese kamikazi)

Nukes

GDP is only a measure of goods and services traded for a period o time, implying production
It doesn't measure anything else

I'd suggest you ask Napoleon and or Adolf / Tojo about that

>trade continues now
bullshit why is it so difficult to get a fucking gorka

1. West dont wanna fight. America with war economy wont get too much from this.
2. West can and will win. Russian government will send people to die and leave abroad where their mansions and where their kids live.
Russia gonna collapse in next 20-30 years or something.

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Yeah, what was nazi gdp in 1939, apparently enough for whole of europe and half of russia, and that's after versailles

what Russians gonna do with their nukes? Nuke themselves? Their aing gonna nuke civilized world where their kids live, where their money and property stashed.

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How much wealth a country generates is just one of the many ways to measure a nation

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Nuke whoever invades them, gbi can do so much (44 with 4 shot for one and russians using mirvs???), only way is ground conventional war, chinese don't have to ferry all their troops and can literally overwhelm whole of east russia (with potential of nuke retaliation), US can't do shit as attack from west is not happening, surprise in east could

Sure thing kid

chinese already overwhelming east of russia, without any war. Our future is sold to em and cheap.

That's the point, north korea with gdp of one us city can deal more dmg to seoul/south than a mid-sized western country, nazis overspent and has to get into war in 39 as all mefo bills became refundable with nothing in coffers

It was Han territory anyways.

Germans also underestimated population advantage, but here it's 10-1, not measly 3-1 when they invaded

Security from nuclear extermination

Back to Sosach

True. When people only look at raw numbers they miss the fact that german growth in the 30s was based on debt creation and the soviet growth was mostly capital accumulation based on the slavery of the kolkhoz class

Russia needs to join nato, before chinese 2030 plan comes to fruition

Are they trying to?

Now this is just baiting

i live in Siberia, my place was white enough, but not anymore.
nobody goes there for 6 years or something, get new info.
this doesnt help government to rob our people and when there will be real threat, they just gonna ditch sinking ship.

For the same reason the baltic always make the top 10 threats tor Russia list.

That region got colonized by you people, before it was steppes for mongols so its just a natural return to what was before.

China military plan 2020 - be immune to attack from any country, they are about to be in that state in 1 year, or give us insight how to invade china even in 2019
China plan 2030 - being able to attack any country that is against chinese economical plans (this includes russia, maybe US)
How's the gdp calculation vs 2b chinese in 2030?

/news/ is one of the most active boards there these days.

>For the same reason the baltic always make the top 10 threats tor Russia list
not really. The only reason the baltic countries are a threat to Russia and Finland is not is because they joined NATO

>attacking long term ally who has the largest nuclear arsenal in the world

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I choose based chinks over the West.

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All three countries have been listed as threats to Russia long before any NATO troops set foot here.

But it's not? Unless it's just the case for trans-continental shipping because you can get them in Europe easily at least. Not worth the price imo unless you really want to LARP.

Russia and china broke out in the 60s, but nice selfie moron

Well. You can try... Again.
Like Napoleon and Hitler.

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>He doesn't know about change in relationship that started in the 90s
Hello retard, it's no longer the 1980s

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not on the list before 2004 no

>invade Russia
>long ass war
>millons of deads
>ends war
>Chinks conquer the West

BTW real GPD of Russia is almost same as Germany.

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they more to east part of Russia.

I am not aware of data going that far back.
And even after 2014 Russia was a trade partner here and there were no military stationed our our borders like there are now. The Russian tanks showed up first btw, after their 2014 snap training a contingent never left. After that we requested a NATO presence here.

They are as friendly as normal economic partners, before 60s china used only soviet equipment, why is china working on their own 5th gen fighter, they are no longer military bloc like warsaw pact, they are for all intents and purposes separate countries with own economic goals and china is invading east russia even now with huge construction projects, like they do in africa, just see:
From someone who obviously knows more about of the state of far east russia than you

2004*

Werent there some tribes of mongols living there also? Also the E was always mixed with japs,chinks and some other asians.

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>separate countries
No shit
>normal economic partners
Who hold gigantic military drills together and constantly back eachother up in the UN
>invading east russia even now with huge construction projects, like they do in africa
Post them then, show me the big construction projects China made in Siberia

yeah, but the reason you are seen as a threat is because you joined NATO in the first place. I'm not even saying its right or wrong, but I can see why the russians are nervous after NATO expanding all the way to its border

well, yeah, lake Baikal is the world's largest freshwater lake in terms of volume was sold to Chinese. Taiga forest largely sold to Chinese.
Theres no job for Russians in east part of Russia, so their wifes have to work as prostitutes for Chinese. Russians do nothing about it, because its never gonna be shown on TV.

Why cant America and Russia ally to destroy Israel and Saudi Arabia? Then we just leave each other alone.

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Russia has noone to blame for this but themselves. The main drive to get into NATO was the 1991 Vilnius and Riga atrocities.
They should have either went all in or not do it at all. Instead they rolled in, shot up some people, and pulled back out.

East russia is siberia... Yeah you probably should read a bit, there are cities in east russia where chinese is more often to encounter on streets thanks to chinese flooding them with workers for huge projects, with some settling down, population invasion, like immigrants in the west, but these are actual workers marrying and staying. It's a huge discussion in russia, but apparently that's siberia for you

>GDP meme
Only underagers and unironic morons use it as an argument anyway. Its a good filter to recognize who are you talking to.

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I don't see how that justify joining NATO 13 years later, specially because the USSR was on the process of disintegration and Russia itself was trying to assert itself as an independent country against the old soviet elite. It actually amazes me that they retreated from the baltic countries without a real fight

>It's a huge discussion in russia
No it isn't

>was sold to Chinese. Taiga forest largely sold to Chinese.

What a retard are you. You can't even imagine.
Check the stats about our forests for example.

we could if we put our industry and all that wealth behind our armies

but that would be a third time of mass death for Whites in europe
and People dont want that again

Man there was only soviet Specnaz. There is no any rule from Kremlin in that situation.

How many of people they kill? 10? That is nothing for that kind of situation.

That is accident.

Joining NATO is not something that happens outright. We waited a near decade to get everything in order for joining.
>Russia itself was trying to assert itself as an independent country against the old soviet elite
Um, no. They explicitly stated that the Russian Federation is a legit successor state of the Soviet Union. The same people stayed in power, the symbols remained, and Soviet history got rebranded as Russian history.
Russia = Soviet - Union

en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ethnic_Chinese_in_Russia
Official figures 34k, chinese figures 400k (this is based on 2002-2004 figures and it's getting worse)

>The West can just use their massive dicks to fuck whatever niggerbitch

>Tthe highest number is not even 1% of the population
Polack delusions

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West invade russia?

You mean why cant USA convince more idiots to join therer retarded plan to establish them as only world power.

Gee I think because the neo cons are a bunch of retards that thougth that they can scam every one after iraq war in to following them blindly.

Well to badly EU is purging US influence in east Europe. And the US can try its luck, we are out.

fort-russ.com/2018/03/colonization-china-invests-billions-russias-far-east/
30b investment includes chinese workers there, and they like white women unlike similar investments in africa

>why can't the West invade Russia?
Why would they? The shittiest shithole on the planet is Russia. Why aren't you clamoring to dive in to the nearest latrine pit? Same reason.

Those are 2002-2004 numbers, again there are articles about chinese being more likely to hear in some far east cities than ruasian, 90% of population is in west anyway, which makes population conquest easier in the east

>400k
>EVEN 1 million now

For country with 145 millions at least.
Do you really think this is a problem at all?

I bet there are more chinks in Australia.

>30b

That is nothing actually.

>They explicitly stated that the Russian Federation is a legit successor state of the Soviet Union
Yes, but that is for political reasons (like to take over the international debt of the USSR). Do you think Latvia should take over part of the foreign debt?
The only reason the USSR died is because Russia, Ukraine and Belarus decided to declare themselves independent from the Soviet entity.
>The same people stayed in power
Simply not true. All the soviet elite was excluded from the new russian state, specially after they tried a coup in 1992

>and Soviet history got rebranded as Russian history
If Russia=SU, why would they need to re-brand the soviet history into russian one?

Workers are not colonizers Mykola
We had shitloads of Chinese workers here too, they all left after they finished construction
They just magically don't show up in later censuses

Come on man, how much more mental gymnastics are you gonna do

Look at population distribution, all in the west, if east is even 30% chink china will do crimea on them to defend chinese pop

that polack is either underaged or with less than 85 IQ

And in the east part of Russia live more than 30 million Russians.

>it happened too long ago
>they didn't kill enough
Are not arguments. We never wanted to be part of the Soviet Union in the first place.

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Dude you are talking to a liberaha, what do you even expect

What vities are you even talking about? None of the siberian people i know have to do any of that.
and most chinese people coming there will probably just go back a bit later. russia is very popular in northern china, so a lot of people learn russian and spend some time there. nothing wrong with that. They even have a Stalin Park in the city Harbin

I am liberal too. But no retarded one.

Again. That is nothing. Even with 1 million chinks _only at Siberia there are more than 30 millions Russians.

OP shows just why most experts agree the average age of a Jow Forums poster is 10-12 years

Go play with a fidget spinner and don't bother trying to figure out economics and politics till you at least hit puberty

Although here's a hint as to how the USSR was "invaded"/economically ruined and almost all its constituent parts controlled by USA including even briefly Russia - they tried to take on a country with more than twice their GDP

And wih each yeah more and more chinks, half a million in 2004, probably 2-3 now, by 2030 when china is supposes to be ready to conquer any country for economic goals it will be 5-6 while russians will drop to 20 as you can't afford children and chinks abandoned one child polixy (especially abroad)

And what stops Russia from using it's nuclear weapons?

I thought Latvians didn't speak russkii

He fell for the "Muh GDP" meme..

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