Under UBI, it will effectively reverse decades of birth rate declines. Now you have a 18 investment to have kids...

>UBI killed productivity in Finland.

UBI leads to greater automation would means MORE PRODUCTION

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The hat is gay AF

The experiment didnt increase employment significantly (or decrease) so they concluded it didnt "work".

>UBI causes more production
>not the optimisation of production from automation

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Good, let it burn. there is no saving it anymore.

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> Hear my tenants are going to get free $1,000 on monthly basis
> raise their rents for $900
FUCK YEAH!
#YangGang

Its F R E E M ON E Y!

WHO DOESNT WANT FREE $$$

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it was actually stop prematurely, because of both lack of the results as whole until so far and due to the obvious outcomes that did manifest by the time the control time for the experiment kicked in.
All in all it was still a shit idea.

> UBI increase productivity
> not the tech itself
Lmao, typical Mutt's shoe size IQ answer. Go to flip those burgers Jamal

>government drags you into the welfare office every fortnight to received your mandatory educational training sessions introduced by Chariman Yang in 2020
>forces you to go through government mandated estrogen shots, diversity classes and cultural sensitivity training before they transfer the money over to your account
>no menial jobs you can take up to unfuck yourself from such financial cuckholdry as all those jobs are now automated

B-b-b-but I still get my $1000 r-r-r-ight?

#YANGBANGER2020

Were actually way past the point where we are limited by actual production capacity at least in most of the western world.

Factories could churn out lot more things here if there was more demand for them. There's just no demand because the robots do the assembly and AI does half the engineering for pennies on the dollar.
It's similar how most countries have homeliness and at the same time have empty homes, it's not an issue of not enough of the basic good but a financial issue.

>production capacity
There is no issue about production capacity. The Chinese have destroyed that issue long ago.

The problem is a matter of profitability from having to do business in accordance with local regulations. Hence the whole big push to destroy national regulation with free trade agreements.

And how is UBI going to solve this when AIs will just increase the prices so the payment ratios from your salary would stay the same?

This, who actually cares anymore? Just watch it crumble.

> living in such a state
> not moving to abroad and enjoy the increased rental profits
> laugh in Turkish

well the above posters claimed there is such an issue with production technology. Regulations are one more thing as well but it's really largely a money issue.

Pretending or just stupid?

Because going from 0 wage because your job became obsolete to X UBI is a net positive for you even if prices rise by a little which realistically they wouldn't in anything but the more luxury products.
People have this weird conception that food prices would magically rise
>muh bread will now cost 500 euros what now so you are left with same amount you started with :^)
when in reality everyone already eats and people having access to more money doesn't magically make them eat more.

And another thing I like how you treat consumption as a negative when it's entirely the point of UBI, to give money to folks so they can spend it so it goes back to the pool to be taxed all while circulating around the economy making good flow and life of the citizens better

Obviously it hurts someone, that someone being the people who currently take the wealth generated by automation. But it won't even hurt them too much because again like I said in my previous post economy has stopped being a zero sum game a while ago. The factory I work at could increase production at a flip of a switch if there was more demand for products. I do the world of like almost a dozen engineers with these new design tools we have access to compared to even just 30 years ago. Luckily by the time the AI comes for me I will either be retired or moved to even cushier position than what I am in right now.

Is $587 supposed to be the money given in the experiment? My gibbs me dats amount to far greater number. Even taking out rent it's still basically the same.

> if prices rise by a little which realistically they wouldn't
stopped reading right there, I see your short sightness has blinded you lmao.
If AIs are to replace business managers, their goal will be maximising the profit, not matter what.
The UBI X wage will become the now 0, as even if you would be homeless lad receiving X amount a month, the AIs will calculate how they can squeeze every single penny out of you by offering what ever the extension of their services or come up a new one to do so.
It will not matter whether population numbers will go up or down, the minimum ownership standard will increase in time as it has so far in history, which will cause only a further expansion in economies.

Yes your AI rises prices, my AI keeps prices where they are because that's already a competitive market price in a free market system, your customers become my customers and you buy my AI at your next software update.

> he thinks AI pulling a Chinese trick will annihilate brand view standards people have accustomed to

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Of course NEETS like the idea of UBI. They’re used to getting “free” money for being a worthless nigger.

>foxnews.com/world/finlands-entire-government-resigns-after-breakdown-of-agreement-on-welfare-state-reform
fake news brah, the government gave up at the last week, becauset they said they would, if they couldn't deliver. Deliver what, ubi? No the reason they quit was a reform on current state of gibs and various other changes. IDGAF about ubi, but this wasn't really about it.

The article is not wrong thou, but it's only talking about the bigger picture of what the government's plan was.
> 1/5 of Bins are over 65 years old
Union with Motherland when?

>niggers and shitskins blow all their money on jordans and weed and end up starving to death
>white families will be able to be formed more easily and are able to more freely move to the countryside with the extra cash
>whites start popping out babies and using the cash wisely whilst niggers continue to decline because they can't think more than 1 day ahead
we will go for it.

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What about those who have no family and will have to pay more than the $1k that I currently pay in rent after shlomo finds out I have another $1k in free money?

>The article is not wrong thou, but it's only talking about the bigger picture of what the government's plan was.
Yes, now that I read it. Turns out, there's a guy running a round on Jow Forums not actually reading shit..
/5 of Bins are over 65 years old
Yea, nobody has the money to raise kids here. Also poz hit pretty hard.
>Union with Motherland when?
Do you mean sweden? It's the one we actually have history with.

ah this tired argument again. You see dear boomer you move to an area that has a lower rental cost because the rental market is not a monopoly.

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This, from what i understand many of the participantsof the UBI test either didnt get a job, got a job that wouldnt be able to sustain their lifestyle that the had before UBI, used the UBI to increase spending on worthless material goods and some of them got INTO more debt while ON UBI. It was, as expected a compleat failure.
Giving people free shit stops them working, people respod to incentives.

it was niggers who they experimented on

Welfare is for niggers.

no it wasnt

yes it was. i remember watching vid of some nigger and muslim in finland talking how happy they were when they realized they got picked for the experiment. nice cope

there arent many niggers in middle finland
show me that video

How about no welfare and no ubi?

WHITEBUX

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Tpbp. Socialism is garbage

How about you post a report on it then if it didn't work instead of just making wild claims about the outcome? How do you expect to convince anyone you low-rez swede?

It has to get worse before it gets better.

>Get a job under Trumps economy, make 85k a year x 4 and your family lives well
Or
>3/4 of you are now unemployed, so its 85k plus 48k now, also ubi means that the inflation of prices will reduce your wealth even more

hey this is an honest alert. I am truly trying to be helpful here, save you from embarrassment.
it's yin, not ying.

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>be a housing benefit
>gov'ment decides to raise you
>cost of rent increases
>be a political party
>be a largest renter in the cunt
>decides the size of benefits
>raise housing benefits
>raise rent

>endless supply of bored sluts
>dindu's killing each other in gang wars
>watching it all from your comfy basement

>reverse declining birth rates
You realize large population growth is what started some of the problems, right?

Also if you have four adults under your roof who aren't fully disabled and still can't afford things, you fucking SUCK at planning.

>comfy basement
Sorry user, you need to work to get that extra $1000. Good news, the party has an opening for you at a local factory!

Don't forget your jumpsuit and to be there at 6am. We'll try to get you home in time for dinner, but you might be short on bread.

Except it doesn't. Improving the economy would benefit whites the most since non-whites stagnate at some point due to their lack of IQ and planning. Jews have engineered the latest economy crashes and have pushed socialism for decades in order to kick whites out of the big businesses and positions of influences and take our place. Whites thrive in adversity and the freer the markets, the more prosperous our countries are. Economical stagnation and socialism weakens and degenerates our race, making us more prone to be domesticated by politicians and ultimately the Jews.

Pledge allegiance to the B A G

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Can't wait for my bucks

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Anime memetics kinda gay but you're an og

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yang gang is fully retarded shill trash

they reee if you mention inflation

people who want UBI don't want kids, they want to smoke weed and play video games

get to work and pay for my bucks wagie

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The Finland experiment failed. Hard.

Oh, you mean giving free money to people who were already at the lower end of performance, industriousness, and conscientiousness didn't magically turn them into noble, charitable and hard working upright citizens?

No waaaaay!

watch out boomers

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this

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It won't work here either, just a handy way to make some quick bucks and accelerate this shit show

Fake and gay

t. zog

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>oh you mean giving multi billion dollar hand outs to gargantuan corporations didn't create jobs for hard working upright citizens no way!

okay thats also true

Yang
>the 1000$ will destroy economy bringing destruction from which USA can blossom again

Trump
>slow painful process of bringing more industry and companies
>has to cater to jews on so many levels so he won't get JFK'd

one brings a restart and the other is slow. I honestly don't know which i would cheer for now.

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>implying I want to spend an hour getting to work
Ok goy.

Why would you need bux, anons? The party provides everything you need instead.

Eat this potato and report for your daily work assignment.

Doesn't matter who you root for to be honest.

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>decades of birth rate declines
No births must decline more. But in the right places.
People should pay about 10.000 $ for each birth. Would prevent poor filth to spread their lesser genes

Quality over quantity.

>lesser genes based on income
Relax, jewboy.

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I know what you're trying to do but could you not find a family without brown mutt looking eyes? this is a good angle though.

karjalainen.fi/uutiset/uutis-alueet/kotimaa/item/209146
or you could do a simple internet search yourself

Do ctrl-f and search for "Jow Forums", they advertise the threads they make to eachother so they can comment and make it look like Yang has a lot of supporters.

Archive can be found here:
anonfile.com/gchfM0waba/YangDiscordArchives_7z

archive.is/7ooo1

cloverchronicle.com/2019/03/08/yanggang-exposed-insider-claims-2020-hopeful-andrew-yang-is-paying-groups-of-online-meme-operators-to-influence-voters/

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>Cancelled
It was concluded at the time It was supposed to. Experiments tend to have start and end dates.
The results indicate that UBI didn't affect peoples employment status one way or another. There are other considerations for it than just employment though, so it's not like it's still off the table.

It's interesting that you failed to mention that they stopped the experiment. If it was such a good policy, why was it terminated?

Begone boomer bot

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how much they pay for such shit memes?

It literally works the opposite way.
Humans have more kids in times of struggle, and have less kids when times are good.
This is why every single modern society is seeing declines in birth rates. In a modern society you just do not need to have a more than 3 kids.
The data speaks for itself.
Look at any poor country, they have rising birth rates, look at any modern country, they have falling birth rates.
It’s not that complicated of stuff.

Ubi destroys productive incentivizes hyper laziness and causes 5 to 1 economic destruction just like the rest of the welfare statism has done aka Jewish bribery and crimes you dumb fucks think the systems can continue to subsidize your fat ass do nothing consumption

False all accounts the west was 10 times richer with high birth rates 19th to 29 century the so called developing world is not developing and they dont have high birth rates they are degenerate and pop stats are all fake China and India do not have 1.4 billion people they have 4 times less than that same for Africa your gay jew propaganda is not real so shove it

Great post.
All these lolbertarians are to scared to remove government assistance from shitskin, but they'll fucking do all they can to stop whites from getting anything from the government.
Fuck you, give me +1000
youtu.be/weIR1tRXgXo

False. Every single modern county, without expection.. has seen a direct correlation with their modernization and decline of birth rates.
Literally just pick any “modern” country and look at the graphs.