Ignorance vs Enlightenment

Ignorance vs Enlightenment

What exactly calls for the discrimination of ignorance versus discrimination of enlightenment? What calls for this pervasive display of resentment towards knowledge?

Teach an ignorant man to be enlightened, and he will be ignorant in all other ways but to be enlightened. Teach an enlightened man to withhold knowledge and he will scorn you and argue that all must know the love and light of the Creator.

Self actualization is just that. The self, realizing itself. There is no amount of good or evil in the world that prescribes ignorance or enlightenment. Both degrees vary in both categories. Both concepts are devoured by its opposite. It is the cycle of things.

A true master, a true teacher, knows the struggle of teaching the student. The student is younger than the master. The student can never know the wisdom of the older Master, until the student has wisened in his own way. Likewise, the master can never make the student understand his wisdom, until the student has wisened in his own way.

Patience is a true virtue. Faith is its governor.

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it doesn't sound like you're talking beyond juggling of the labels themselves. You know as if we are in acting class and you're teaching how to method act or create impression of being ignorant or enlightened. You know manipulation and deception. You can't teach something that is obvious.

Enlightenment is selective ignorance.

Why 40?

Shall no one kill the widow's son?

Where is this logo/shape from? Also, show your real flag.

I feel like you've strawmanned both Ignorance and Enlightenment in order to make your own point on the value that you feel brings true enlightenment. Self-awareness is key, you're right. But I think that's really all you've said.

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It is the rank of one who is the Father
It is Sacred Geometry
Good point, unfortunately that is the nature of the Paradox

The Ouroboros

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That symbol is an anus

OP is a faggot like all occultists

materialist nigger detected

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That ... that's not an ouroboros.

user, it's easy to fall into a trap of thinking you know more than the average normie because you've filled your head with knowledge that average normies don't know. That doesn't mean you're smarter or necessarily know more than them though. It just means you've specialized your education, it does not mean that you're using that education to any great benefit.

I'm not saying you're dumb, don't get me wrong. You seem smart, but you also seem like you're slipping into a pit of overly self-satisfied smugness due to (I assume) the non-stop esoteric knowledge you've been consuming. Don't drink too deeply, son. Moderation is key. And yeah, maybe I'm projecting my own issues onto you, as I'm clearly projecting my own projections.

Regardless, take care of yourself.

What would be an Ouroboros then?

And I'm well aware of what spiritual egoism is. I do my best to keep it in check.

Love and light to you

>What would be an Ouroboros then?
A snake eating its own tail.

Exactly.

It is symbolized as a snake eating its own tail, or more realistically, a species devouring itself

foolish

such a system goes nowhere
performing the same routine
this is the folly of the wise

there must be a project
and if you are not an architect then you are a slave

it is unacceptable to have a society of slaves
At least - personally speaking
effective though it may be

Correct. Now can you describe the image you posted? Also, can you identify what sets it apart from an ouroboros?

To clarify

a fire burns
to truly know this one must first experience the pain
however to understand this one must merely be explained the nature of fire in relation to the self

thus a student may be taught the wisdom by either having their finger burned in a demonstration
>ritual
or by being informed on the fundamental nature of heat and the body
>information

ofcourse
a demonstration can also be witnessed rather than experienced
and to learn the fundamental nature of things is timeconsuming

however
the ego will believe it is not susceptible to heat
and learning the fundamentals gives universal application
>such as safety around non-fire heat

should a student be unwilling or unable to learn through information
they must be taught through demonstration

it is the ultimate task of all teachers to devise a demonstration that conveys the message without causing too much damage
any other alternative either wastes time across generations repeating the same mistakes or leaves a student without the proper knowledge to take over the project

The image I posted carries layered wisdom of layered wisdoms. It does not mean any one thing.

The Dragon devouring the serpent, both of the same flock, one of Above, the other of Below. The symbol within amplifies the symbolism, and carries sacred geometry and sacred alchemy.

The Hermetic principles of Correspondence, Vibration, Polarity, rhythm, Gender, cause and effect, and Mentalism can all be found within.

>of course it's a leaf

True wisdom

It is the very fulcrum of our reality and history

So many individuals have been teaching the wrong material and it has shaped our world. It is as one would put it, somewhere down the line the Student was left without the proper knowledge to take over the project


Indeed. There are many of us here

It's the philosopher's stone

>The image I posted carries layered wisdom of layered wisdoms. It does not mean any one thing.
Layered wisdom is good, but it requires a foundation to work from first. A bottom rung of meaning from which the remainder of its meaning can be built up from. To not have that element is to build a structure without foundation, or to use possibly a better metaphor to convey emptiness, a cup without a bottom. What you posted is not an ouroboros. An ouroboros is one feeding off of itself. Two have two feeding off of each other is wholly different, and while it's representing the same meaning, it lacks the foundation you implied from the start.

I hope you're mad and have been bothered by my posts.

Stop overthinking. Praise Jesus. Simple as.

Are you imperialtus, leaf?
As in, imperialtus.org

On the contrary. I appreciate the lesson you have taught me, however as I have stated, the two creatures symbolize the same species, one with wings (air/fire) the other without wings (water/earth)

As above, so below

this, I guess, I'm so tiried of these retarted threads

Let me make it clear, you have to understand what the ego is and what it is not, there are too many people trying so hard to break free from their own minds whilst calling it their ego. That is impossible, your mind will always exist and it will never go away, it is the mind you need to free from any identity in order to reach a state of none locality. Ignorance truly is bliss.

I am so tired of people, people fucking suck, all you people ever do is bitch and moan about things in the world, you are the reason everything is shit. Threads like this one are created in an attempt to free you useless fucks from your own sense of self, you identify with some other than a free happy person and you wonder why your life is a fucking shit?

your snippets are appreciated
we are all on different parts of the same path
the truth is universal
as are the steps of least resistance

> Ignorance truly is bliss.
a monkey is blissful with a banana

>free happy person
fundamental minunderstanding
to attain a desire you must cease to identify as a person at all

that is the nature of freeing mind from ego
mind is a capacity
personhood is a configuration

are you a monkey imagining a banana?
or an architect designing the zoo?

>fundamental minunderstanding
>to attain a desire you must cease to identify as a person at all

That correct yes. I tell you what I've been always trying to reach a state of enlightenment because I got so sick of being depressed, then yesterday it occurred to me that I was going about it completely in the wrong way. I am most happiest when I simple don't care about anything, I don't care who I am, what I do or where I'm going in my life. That brought on an amazing sense of freedom, an overwhelming sense of not begin focused on anyone thing, just a spaciousness and a widening of my mind, I felt like I was floating.

To identify with anything is insanity, and things come at you in life exactly when they need too and then you just have to smile when you realize that you're ultimately in control with out having to live in want. Living in want gets you no where in life. But yeah, people need to stop identifying with things they are told, things which they have read about etc.

Observe, OP's ouroboros.

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