How could this not be a false flag. Any alt-righter with a brain knows that a mass shooting is the absolute literal fucking worst way you could possibly promote a legitimate political change. Even if you determined that the only way to save whites is to kill muslims, what the fuck is killing a few dozen of them going to do?? Absolutely fucking nothing besides painting the alt-right as something to be condemned even more.
This event will lead to the ultimate crackdown of right platforms and MSM will be even more left-biased than it already is. Jow Forums will be seen by normies as a site that makes mass shooters. >Yet another shooter motivated by "hate groups"
Shooting a bunch of innocent people that didn't do anything accomplishes jack shit. If this guy was so based and redpilled and pro-white why didn't he at least try to assassinate some high level official like soros or netanyahu or something. They're the reason the muslims are invading the west and whites are being replaced in the first fucking place. Assassinating an official would actually be like taking a block out of a jenga tower. It wouldn't accomplish much, but it'd be a step in the right direction for what you're trying to accomplish (a shitty step, but better than killing innocent nobodies).
If a false flag was shooting was staged, the shooter would never attack the people responsible for the false flag.
Perhaps he wasn't an alt-righter, but rather someone with a spine?
Angel Phillips
>alt-righter >with a brain
Pick one and ONLY ONE you retarded faggot
John Roberts
what the fuck sort of legitimate political change has the alt right achieved? >inb4 drumpf the salt-right had little to do with drumpfstein's election, deal with it not condoning the shooting, btw. but you're a fucking retard, dont post ever again
Jaxson Scott
A "spine" meaning what? Oh that when you're outraged your race is being replaced by muslims the best thing to do is to shoot a bunch of them rather than get educated and promote political change that would make an actual tangible difference in anyone's life?
Aiden Miller
None. I'm not even alt-right. I'm saying if you want change a shooting is the worst way to do it.
Alexander Jackson
The best thing would be to shoot jews, but short of that you can't honestly talk down about this guy for doing what he did. Faggots who care about optics and mainstream politics like you are spineless and only a detriment to any sort of nationalism.
Jose Hall
Jesus you guys are idiots. When hitler wanted to get rid of the jews, did he shoot up a single synagogue? No, he had followers of a fucking political party do the jew-riddening and he killed 2/3's of the european jewish population. 1 shooting changes absolutely literally nothing.
Liam Cooper
fuck off retard
Gabriel Gray
>This event will lead to the ultimate crackdown of right platforms and MSM will be even more left-biased than it already is. Jow Forums will be seen by normies as a site that makes mass shooters.
read his manifesto if you care, retard. Nobody needs to spoonfeed you, and you shouldn't make threads when you don't understand the intentions of the person you're ranting about. Read it then come back and talk about how he's wrong, or right or whatever
Austin Martinez
Because you are the most chaotic disorganised group of fuckwits on the internet?
Jack Wilson
Hitler lived in a time where there was still a reasonable means to obtain power, the fact is pal we're enemies in our own homelands.
Carter Cooper
Killing a few dozen innocent people accomplishes nothing fucking smoothbrain.
Everything you posted is happening anyways. This shooting showed shitskins some consequences for a change. Can't wait for the next attack desu
Connor Martin
Lmao americans will WANT to have their guns taken away when shootings like this are plastered all over main stream media. They already fucking do. Why do you think gun control legislation has been passed?
Carson Perez
Why do retards call everything a false flag? This man understands the world more than you ever will
Parker Hernandez
Hurr durr the celebrities told me the people trying to save the west are dumb dumbs
Colton Powell
T. Retarded cuck still salty about trumps election
You cucks are utterly pathetic. Kill yourself
Caleb Johnson
T. Actual retard
James Nelson
You mean cucks like you
Caleb Hernandez
its true OP is right as long as we have time to make a really good argument we can save our race
Luke James
>guys we absolutely HAVE to convince these people who were never going to listen anyway
sometimes to make an omelett you need to break a few eggs.
Connor Ward
this
Xavier Hughes
1. Loads of people are supporting him. 2. Way too woke to be a false flag, and too easy to agree with his manifesto. 3. Randomers were targeted.
The reason it looks so perfectly targeted at you is because it was. The reason it looks like he wanted to kill gun rights is because he does. He wants to start WW3, or Civil War 2. That is precisely what he wanted. That is why.
A large percentage of americans don't want "assault weapons" available to civilians due to NRA propaganda and such. Gun control legislation is being passed because americans want it to. They're not going to ban all rifles instantly because of this shooting. Gun control will become stricter and stricter slowly until we have no guns. If some hillbillies want to have a shootout with the cops, fine. That won't accomplish shit if the reason the cops are there is to take his guns because most americans want them to be taken lol.
Cameron Collins
>more left than ever
youtube start pushing BREAKING NEWS section
>subversive censorship >let US tell you what happened goy
And our reply will be short and sweet to any accusations
"It's just part and parcel of living in a big city"
Gabriel Ward
This. He's literally a supposed meme edgelord shitposter and all people talk about on Jow Forums are the jews and he doesn't even mention them.
Owen Richardson
Sure do. Like I said, a single mass shooting does nothing but make your ideology look even more like shit.
Colton White
His manifesto comes of as a caricature of a Jow Forums shitposter. Its like they crammed every single meme possible into there besides the one that gets spammed non stop ever day. TEH JOOS. Definitely suspicious.
Jayden Rivera
Is there a worse way to promote feminism than to be a charicature Like Trigglypuff? Are those false-flags to make feminists Look Bad?
Is there anything more discrediting to islam than Muslim terrorists?
Maybe you've desensitised yourself to how alarming a worldview it is you actually believe in. People like you cry false-flag every time something like this happens because either you are subconciously disgusted by theory being Put into practice, and the sort of people you are rubbing elbows with, or you secretly condone it but know you have to keep up a facade of Moderation and reason as Long as your side is Not in power.
Justin Martin
>alt-right They still exist? I thought the bloodsports from 2018 ended them
Jace Green
>Ben Shapiro and Milo Yianoupoulos are trying to save the west Kys
Andrew Torres
>People like you cry false-flag every time something like this happens because either you are subconciously disgusted by theory being Put into practice, and the sort of people you are rubbing elbows with, or you secretly condone it but know you have to keep up a facade of Moderation and reason as Long as your side is Not in power.
No. I literally just think a shooting is a horrible way to promote any sort of ideologically driven change, as it will just make your ideology look worse. As people have pointed out earlier in the thread, that might have been the guy's goal itself, to spark even heavier gun control legislation and make americans fight for their rights. But The majority of americans are NOT going to say "but muh constitution" when the reason for gun control is a slaughter of 4 dozen innocent people.
Nathaniel Rivera
SUPPORT ISRAEL.
James Foster
True, but some people are really dumb, and/or have reached the end of their tether and just don't care.
no he means the half of the country that opposes the 2nd amendment and will agitate and vote for its infringement and abolition
Isaac Ward
>legitimate political change It’s too late for that boomerfriend.
Cameron Phillips
Shareblue kike
Hunter Perry
some people are fucking nuts man, this nigga straight up just wanted to off some muslims. not much more than that. i'm all for a good false flag conspiracy, but this one seems pretty cut and dry to me
He did, several in fact. If mag 0(planted magazine) was in his vest, it would've been packed in, making it difficult for it to just fall out like how some are claiming. Considering this a false flag.
>Jow Forums will be seen by normies as a site that makes mass shooters. Good Maybe there will be less crybaby newfag retards like you on here then.
Jaxon Roberts
He got rid of around 50, how many have you gotten rid off by promoting political change?
Dylan Cook
Is that so? Is that why Islam is the fastest growing religion? Is that why we are letting Islamists into western countries?
Owen Evans
>Jow Forums will be seen by normies as a site that makes mass shooters. But it was 4+Jow Forums. Jow Forums is a board of peace.
Lincoln Richardson
Well these guys don't seem shaken up at all for a shooting survivor m.youtube.com/watch?v=E8UENRxEcWg Now i'm not saying anything, just putting it on the table. Also I don't think I seen much blood or gore. Was probably red sauce and jam. I mean... I'm not saying it WAS
Mason Cox
is this post a falseflag or a bait?
Christian Perry
dude straight up double tapped the woman at the end, no way that could have been easily faked lol
Christian James
None. I'm not even alt-right. Just saying that what he did was not only inaffective but counter-intuitive.
Levi Barnes
I knew you brainlets would be up to this shit ASAP.
Dude literally livestreams the evidence it's real and you retards can't help yourselves but LARP being detectives.
Henry Lewis
read his manifesto before you comment
Dominic Garcia
>But The majority of americans are NOT going to say "but muh constitution" Why do 16 year olds like you have opinions? The better question is why do people like you share your retarded fucking opinions?
This one comment proves you are so fucking ignorant you have literally nothing of value to say.
Lurk for a couple years before posting retard.
Brayden Ramirez
Did you notice how many people were piled up in that mosque hall after the second time he went there? No way he shot that many muslims the first go and then there were like 20 more? Really strange doesn't it?
Aiden Carter
It would make sense if some of the survivors tried to lay amongst the dead bodies to make the shooter think they are dead. It's actually a classic strat. People have been doing it on war time for ages.
There's a reason why he just unloads into those two groups. He's trying to kill them.
Elijah Barnes
A manifesto thats filled with shitposting,Jow Forums memes and defending the existence of Israel
Jace Diaz
Say whatever you want but americans themselves are going to push for stricter gun control. You're deluding yourself if you don't think staunch defenders of the 2nd amendment are a minority.
Jace Hughes
Oh help me help me! As if you had the air to say help me like that Lad it was the fakest most unmotivated flat "help me" i've ever heard. And the fall was soooooo fake too, like she didn't want to hurt her wee self falling. And I didn't see any jam on her either, they must had ran out
Anthony Murphy
I mean imagine getting SHOT in the back! You aint gonna be able to say shit, son
Luis Murphy
>Accelerationist >Political change This is not what these types want. Their aim is to bait the left into cracking down on us further, until everyone is pushed past their breaking point and war replaces politics.
For example, they typically start from a position like >White Americans will not fight to protect their people >But they say they will fight to protect their guns The accelerationist's strategy here would be to bait the left into taking your guns with a mass shooting, in the hopes that this loss of liberty will push more people over the edge, which will in turn cause more crackdowns, etc, etc, like dominoes.
Basically his entire manifesto points towards accelerationism. Pewdiepie will be hounded by leftist, this will piss more people off, etc, etc. Candace Owens will be hounded by leftists, this will piss more people off, etc, etc. I wouldn't be surprised if they unironically went after Spyro devs or some shit they're that clueless.
Brody Fisher
wow 50! that'll really put a dent in their numbers
Christian Baker
nigga, she didn't even fall down, she was basically fully on the ground to begin with tf are you talking about
Josiah Rivera
bump
Gavin Baker
No mention of NPC or recent Yang Gane memes, however what really gives it away are the references to Serbian War heroes who battled the Turks and the playing of the “Remove Kebab” song, it’s just way too convenient. Only professional analysts who are employed by the Deep State would understand the history behind those people and the Serbs are convenient scape goats because of the Balkan Wars in the 90’s and their sympathy towards their Orthodox Christian Slavic brothers, the Russian’s, this is a false flag attack on so many levels.
Ayden Gutierrez
I live in a shithole with muslims, and yes, they make everything worse in llarge groups. End of discussion.
Easton Roberts
Understandable point of view. I just don't think it's reasonable to think americans will want to go to war over a few more rights being taken away, and then a few more, etc. When mainstream media covers this shooting: >40 innocent people dead >horribly atrocity >"assault ar-15 style rifle" used >military gear >30 round mags, drum mag >stricter gun control is probably necessary Most americans will agree.
