Anons with GFs help those without

not him but how old are you? cause:

6. dont worry about it as it will come eventually.

alright im going to make this easy for you
>I don't approach women
>I'm a kissless virgin
hmm
HOW THE FUCK WOULD YOU NOT BE A KISSLESS VIRGIN IF YOU DIDN'T APPROACH WOMEN

Damn. It really seems like so much of it is dependant on whether you develop normal sexual relations in your teenage years.

Being 22 and a kissless virgin, I can't help but feel like I am totally and irreparably fucked up by the fact that I received zero sexual attention or experience throughout all my teenage and now young adult years. I didn't have the normal upbringing a horny teenage guy is meant to have...

1. Until last year I didn't realize that men were meant to always make the first move. I thought that girls were supposed to flirt with guys first and then the guy does the asking out. So I spent several years crying and being depressed because no girls ever flirted with me, and I took that as evidence that I must be unattractive.

2. I still haven't fully overcome that mindset. And now I'm an adult KV and my inexperience is like a massive ball and chain weighing me down and making it even harder to approach a girl.

Stop needing relationships so bad. I resigned to being alone and at peace with solitude. I've never really been without female attention since.

>tfw my boyfriend once told me that no girl but me ever flirted with me
>girls flirted with him in front of him and he's just retarded
Most guys are fucking retarded when it comes to getting hints. You probably had girls flirting with you and you ignored them.

OK FAGGOT IF YOU WANT TO CHANGE THAT APPROACH A GIRL FOR THE FIRST TIME
just have a convo you don't need to fuck the first one or the 30th one you will never get better until you just do it. have one of your buds help you, if you see a couple of women at a party (or literally anywhere) go with your buddy and have a convo with them its going to be cringe as fuck at first (or maybe not) but you will get better. You can literally do this or die alone of your own choosing

I wouldn't call it normal. I think I was 12 when I lost my virginity, and it was to my best friends sister. Nobody knows, and I was not in control. If your goal is to have a relationship, you'll get it. There is no shortage of females.

maybe OP i from china

Yeah probably. If you're a shy guy your confidence is basically fucked forever until you can either force yourself out of it or you somehow get lucky and get a GF with no effort. Because as a shy guy NO girls will EVER compliment you or flirt with you in an obvious way, so you will grow up thinking you are ugly and undesirable and feel horrible about it.

I can approach girls to chat, yeah. I do that often. But it never goes beyond that. One time I spent like an hour talking to this girl at a party and she at the beginning of the conversation was showing a lot of typical signs of being into me, but by the end of it i'd spent so long rambling with no end product that she seemed bored. I just can't escalate.

it's really not that hard just go for girl that r on the same level like if your a 5\10 go for 5\10's and also try to find one that will make you happy cuz thats most important

make the convo invertly sexual
she probably wanted you to make some sort of a move but got bored of you being a pussy

I dunno how to do that without looking like a virgin retard LARPing

most of the threads here are he same. Guys I need the confidence to do the thing can you cheer me on
OP is always a faggot

then be a virgin retard larping until you get it right dumbass

Also read this stuff you virgin faggots
most of it is retarded but there is alot yall can learn from it
reddit.com/r/theredpill

Be hot, act however. I don’t really know how I get gf’s, I get drunk/do drugs while hanging out with people and it just sort of happens.

>Do the red pill
>spin a pl8
>lift bro
>We’Ll AlL be CH a Dz

Is 28 too late to put this into practice?
I'm already a good 10 years behind on social development, and I'm not starting from a good place (aspergers).

>be me at 16
> hanging out with girl that is friend
>shes driving me home
>literally say " want to fuck?"
>her " yea"

Be tall

wayyyyy too fucking late my man

suicide is the only way

I kind of figured.
Guess I'll just resign myself to hookers until my parents die and then blow my brains out.

I'm not good looking. Far from it, and I'm also a manlet, but I'm positive. I also pulled a taller girl this time.

Let's go with what I get from my gf.
That I have the ability to relate and listen. She feels comfortable and safe around me.
At the same time she likes that I'm spontaneous. I'm very knowledgeable about stuff in general. I'm also handy as fuck, I can take apart machines and fix them. I'm good with my hands. I'm confident, which to be honest it's just my outward appearance, inside I'm falling apart. She likes to hear when I get passionate about stuff, sometumes it's my hobbies (games, astronomy, or model building), at others just my desire to learn more.
As bad as it sounds you kinda have to be interesting.
You can learn. My current gf and I met when I was 28. We have been together for 2 years now.
This gets you bonus points. Also unlocks some women to you. There are some that don't care about height. I think out of the 3 long term relationships, 2 were taller than me. I have been hit on and asked out a few times by taller girls. It's weird.

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>There are some that don't care about height
yeah like maybe 0.00000000000001%

It's not that bad. Unless I have gotten lucky way too many times.

>My current gf and I met when I was 28.
Yeah but were you an ugly, socially retarded virgin when you met her?

Depends on how you met, what you like, social customs of your location.

Average I guess. I been a manlet all my life. I'm like a slightly chubby 5'6". Sometimes look like a bum.

I was a kiss less virgin until I was 28.
Got drunk with a cute coworker to lose my v card.
I had great luck finding my wife in okcupid. It was a long distance relationship for a couple of years, but we have sex on the daily now.
If you have money, go talk to a Filipina and bring her home

Women only care that you're not abnormally short or abnormally tall. Contrary to what Jow Forums tells you, in real life the men who are seen as the most attractive and successful with women are not tall, but below average to average height.

You may ought to find a short girl and wear clothes that compliment your physique

"Ugly" was only part of my case though.
Being an autismo, and having the insecurity that comes with being an older virgin, are in the long run much bigger hindrances to bridging that human gap and finding a girl than being of average appearance (and very few people in my experience are legitimately ugly, a little self-grooming really does goes a long way).

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>Be me
>GF dumps me, feel super depressed n shit
>Take a month to fully recooperate, basically have given up on health, hygiene etc at this point.
Fix the basics
>Get a nice hair cut, shower at least once a day, shave/trim beard, eat better (espeically eliminating sodium and sugar), get back into school
>Go out more often, to study or to malls and shit
>Kinda looking for validation but some girls look at me so it's chill, I feel confident because I am peak self. I am clean, eating well, working hard
>Since I am comfortable with myself because I am doing the best for myself, I talk to the girl

Talking to girls from my experience always should start with a joke, even if it's a shitty dad joke
>She laughs, I'm in boys
>Get her number and leave soon after

We go on dates, I kinda chose to go out for coffee first, then next time a movie, next time breakfast, then after that we chill at my place, then we go to the city to go shopping play board games etc at a cafe

She is my gf now, we've been dating for 2 months. It's going well, and she knows a lot about my weird ass self.

And no anons, you do not have to quit anime/vidya/etc to get a gf. My gf is a total fucking normie and knows that I play vidya, and she watches cringe shit and cringes at food reviews with me. She thinks I'm weird but it's "cute because I'm not afraid to show how weird I am"

tl;dr:
>Be healthy, exercise, groom yourself, shower each day at least once
>Be doing shit with your brain whether it be school or something else. Don't let your brain turn to mush
>Go out more, even if it's for a walk. Be comfortable around people
>Do things to better yourself. Push yourself to be better. This will not only make you more outgoing but more confident when you achieve these things
>Be comfy with who you are while also striving to be better

And be at risk of losing your life savings

I don't know about lossless, but literally just fuck a fat chick.

Although you'll feel disgusted during and after, it is still better than becoming a wizard

Clean your room
Wash your penis
Make yourself fuckable
Thats the whole secret

Married guy here. Respect wamen, know what makes wamen laugh, be able to dress yourself, practice good hygiene and keep your shit clean. This applies to 100% of wamen. Some wamen will prefer guys that are confident and talk loudly and clearly. Some, especially those previously scorned or have motherly natures, will appreciate the shy introvert. Some may like you for seemingly no discernable reason at all (my wife)

read this book bookofpook.neocities.org/

I got my first kiss when I was like 5yo playing truth or dare loool

This is actually the best advice in the thread so far.

Did all of those.

Still a kissless dateless virgin.

What now?

Look I have no blatant problems with my exterior, girls give me the look pretty often. I can't small talk. This is a crucial first step to getting to know someone, I get it. But for me, actively putting myself through that is one hell of a grind. Is there ANY way to make the first conversation easier? So far the only hack I've found is alcohol.

If you have radically different lives to a girl can it work

Why would you lie about something like that?

Not that poster, but where I live (Toronto) most of the chads I meet are 5'7"-5'9". There are a few that are tall and girls do say they like their height but it's clearly not the main thing, more like a bonus

Not worth it, women are hard to understand and most are not interesting

General advice is that for the most part it's all stuff you know. Good hygiene, have a job, don't be a dick, be mature, common sense right. What doesn't get mentioned is that a woman doesn't appear overnight after you have all your shit together. Sometimes it takes years even when you're actively searching.

You're superman and might not find a single partner that meshes with you for a decade plus, or ever, and that's life. Getting bent over that is real but childish (which by the way, doesn't help with women.)

You can balance the odds more by socializing as much as possible whether it's concerts or church.

Yeah get a job and buy some new clothes and a haircut and find a style.

for reference: I've been in about 4 relationships that have lasted at least a year. I'm 5'8.

Would you say your issues are meeting girls or finding where they are? Because that can be the hardest part. Tinder is ehhh and going out to bars isn't gonna give you much. I met one girl on instagram, one through school, one at a party and one at work so you have options.

If you can meet them, it's about confidence 100%. I have an issue with this but I went out to the bars this weekend, and before I did a girl said she wanted to fuck me on tinder and it gave me such a boost. That night two girls came up to me and I rejected them both, but on the walk back I convinced a sober girl to come home w me and spend the night. I know "being confident" isn't easy but you need something to push you or you need to hype yourself up before going to meet people.

Talking to girls once you've talked for a bit is tricky, but at the end of the day, if you have to fake yourself around a girl or play a character, it's not worth it.

Here to take questions too

Honestly the best advice I can give is exercise, at least try to act not entirely depressed (the two may be linked), and practice talking to females as much as possible. Whether it’s hitting on a girl in a bar or merely just saying “hey” to some random female, do something. You will never be able to talk to girls if you never learn how.

Don’t be a selfish dick and only fuck the way you like to then when you want to do it so that she likes it you become less interested in the act already. Just don’t. Better die alone than make your girl suffer bcz of just wanting to cum in an enjoyable way.
Fucking use porn for something else than your enjoyment already. Search for how to male her sex more enjoyable. Women don’t like having to tell you how to wooo them, that’s beta af- and no, don’t use videos designed for male viewers.

>So far the only hack I've found is alcohol.
Bingo.

It's actually the hardest thing to get in this fucking life for me. People always assume I'm good with girls; I'm good looking, I go to the gym and I have a good job (I also have a lot of hobbies). But I can't get a fucking gf for the life of me. I have a lot of friends and I'm pretty sure that I know how to talk with women. The problem is that no girl ever goes any further with me. I keep going to dates where everything goes perfectly, but I still haven't kissed a single girl.
There is something deeply wrong with us that women can notice, no matter what we change about ourselves.
Anons ITT are right: if you didn't get a girlfriend while you were in highschool, it's almost impossible to make it now. But I will keep trying.

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Be interested in them as people and not just as potential gfs. Get to know them. Ask questions. Be fun to be around. Talk. Flirt. Be confident. Dont come off as desperate. Deal with your mental health issues. People can smell when your desperate, insecure or anxious. Groom better. Take care of yourself. Dress nice, in a way that makes you feel sexy. Go out and do stuff. Exercise. Have a hobby or passion that puts you around the same people on at least a weekly basis. Actually put yourself out there, even if its a dating app/site. Be a regular at a cafe or bar. Have a car and a job, and at least a little bit of disposable income. Have a general direction for your life. Have friends that do shit and do shit with them.

I once tried the thing where you go and randomly approach girls and start conversations in public. Most girls thought it was weird as fuck and just saw me as a creep, so that doesn’t really work.

How can you even start conversations with girls?

I tried the same thing, and do it every time someone tells me all I have to do is actually ask women out.
but they show obvious signs of being uncomfortable. How do I get positive reactions?

I don't really meet any women. I rarely meet my friends and when I do it's at some bar or someone's house. They are all male too. Work is a sausage fest and i don't have any hobbies outside of the house.
I tried a few dating apps but dont have much success. Mostly due to my pictures i guess. Im not ugly but kind of average and very thin.
Without alcohol im really shy quite. Even when drunk I never can gather the courage to talk to anyone.
I've been on dates and if the girl is showing interest in the conversation im fine and can act normal without showing my power level. But getting there is nearly impossible. Kind of burnt out from dating apps. I've been going to the gym at least.
Not sure what my original point was but I wish I could just stop thinking and start acting

you have to be really good looking to cold approach

Most guys are retarded when it comes to receiving hints?

Maybe that’s because girls always just HINT and never just SPEAK WHAT’S ON THEIR MIND.

Men aren’t going to keep making the first move forever since women have decided to have us thrown in jail just for looking at them.

In the last few years it has become acceptable to have a man who asks a question like that thrown in jail for LITERALLY RAPE. The game isn’t the game it used to be.

No clue. I haven't had a conversation with a woman my age in 3 years or so.

but it's not like I am asking her out on a date, just talking. Even ones I really don't have an ulterior motivation towards, as long as they could reasonably believe I want to have sex with them, they act cold. Yet old women seem to have a normal reaction just like men.

user with a wife here. Don’t remember how many GFs I had before her. Maybe 6. I spent 8 years in the Army as an interrogator and have been a RN for 10. I never considered myself “Chad” but that’s for you to decide. Take my advice or leave it. Whatever.

First, if you’re an autist, I don’t know what you should do about that.

Second, hygiene. Shave or keep your facial hair neatly done. If you can’t grow a combat beard or something stylish, then shave it off and keep it off. Shower daily at a minimum. Chads shower in the morning and at night, faggot. Only wear clothes that have been through the washing machine and dryer since you last wore them.

Lose weight. Do this by giving up added sugars and high sodium foods. Stop all soda intake. Stop all fast food intake. Stop all food intake that is prepared by opening a box and placing in a microwave. Drink only water, and drink at least those 8 glasses of it that you’re supposed to per day.

No smoking. No weed. No vaping. No e-cigs. None of those idiotic habits. They’re not cool. You look retarded.

Don’t get wasted drunk, ever. Drink until you’re good and buzzed and maintain that, but while everyone else around you is making mistakes, you’ll keep your composure.

You don’t have to be a gym rat, but you need to be able to lift things, and push things, and pull things, and not get knocked over by a slight breeze. Make it happen, beta fucker.

Lastly, stop giving a fuck about people who take shots at you.

Help me out on what to do

>see girl on Friday
>we met off POF
>it seems to go pretty well
>give each other a hug when saying goodbye
>was going to see each other tonight again
>texting back and forth a lot
>a bit of flirting
>she says shes ill and has to cancel tonight
>tell her thats ok we can see each other on the weekend
>no reply
>recently hasn't been talking all that much to me
>wonder if I am going to get ghosted
>go on POF again
>shes online

Is it over? I guess I should never have had my hopes up, she was way too pretty for me and has 50 guys messaging her a day. She got bored of me, this happens a lot to me and I don't know why.

You just dealt with a person who didn't feel it the same way you did. Generally they do this before the meet up, but it happens to everyone. I mostly have success on dating apps but I still often get the
>Yeah user let's meet!
Fast forward to an hour before meeting
>Sorry user I have to do something with my family and theyre out of town!!"
On their snapchat map theyre at home doing nothing all day

Juts move on it's just some dumb thot lmao

Apps are more draining than they are fulfilling, because it's a very binary way of thinking about people and being judged. It's not healthy at all desu. Being drunk is probably your best bet here even if you still need a push to talk. There's no shame in striking out with a girl in convo and you can only ever improve on it.

no it hasn't. just because you're 15 and alone, doesn't mean you're right. It's about legitimate communication and I do it all the time, you autist. Stop posting on Jow Forums and you'll come to understand.

not sure if you're the same as above but this is an equally retarded opinion. if you're looking to find girls, you can start by ditching the attitude that they're out to get us oppressed men. No one who talks to women regularly actually thinks this. You should get some female friends and talk to them about their experiences if they're willing. I have friends who carry mace, dated two girls who have been sexually abused, had friends who get harassed weekly and that shit is not equal to men being pushed back against for shitty behavior. You seriously will not find this opinion from any guy who has a healthy amount of girl friends or any girl for that matter and there's a reason for that; it's a shitty take made by incels like you.

some girls are only on these apps for confidence boosts and it's a pretty shitty thing to do. has nothing to do with you, user. I had a girl recently tell me she wanted to bang me right after I landed a great pick up line, but then ghosted me after. They really just want someone to chase after them and you're better off not playing into their game.

As a robot, the only thing I know about women:
If they want something from you, they'll let you know or do something. If she is 'busy', then she isn't interested.