Had my first kiss last month (yes, kinda pathetic) with a pretty cute guy who goes to my college...

Had my first kiss last month (yes, kinda pathetic) with a pretty cute guy who goes to my college. We'd been getting along pretty well and he leaned in for the kiss on the third date and I went with it. I really liked him. He introduced me to a bunch of funny shit online (pic related) and we have the same sense of humor. A week later he came over to my house (he sort of invited himself over) and we hung out and cuddled and shit. He never made any overt sexual advances so nothing happened in that department. Everything seemed great. He always made all the advances and paid for the dates, it was great. That was a month ago.

In the past month I've been the only person making any advances at all. I've texted him about once a week and all the times he talked for like five minutes and then pulled a gtg and stopped talking. It's been a week since we had any contact at all and I'm sort of waiting for him to reach out to me, but I feel like he won't, because he really hasn't been. I don't know what I did to make him stop talking to me, last time we saw each other was when he came over and there was absolutely nothing out of the ordinary that time. I can't think of anything I did to tick him off. And if he wanted sex, he could've made an advance and honestly I would've given it up, so it's not like I was being a prude or withholding anything.

The fuck happened? Did he just give up on me? Why would he take me on three dates, insist on paying for all of them, and come over to my house, just to yeet on out? If he'd banged me I'd say "Ok he was in it for the sex" but he didn't even do that so... why?

I'm just really confused. When he came over, he referred to me as his girlfriend, so obviously we were dating then. Or at least, I think we were. I dunno. Should I give up reaching out to him? Should I consider us "broken up"? What do I do?

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Confront him about it and don't assume anything, he might be going through something, or might think you're uninterested in him for some reason or another.

Are you sure it won't come off as super clingy?

This

Overthinking alone will lead you nowhere.

Seeking for closure is not clingy.

Aight. Thanks man

Updoot: He texted me good morning :)

Reading this post just makes me sad

How can I get something like this to happen to me? Why is it that the guys who get girls often never seem to appreciate how good they have it?

>Why is it that the guys who get girls often never seem to appreciate how good they have it
Why? Because women are a pain in the ass to deal with on a every day basis. Most women are narcissists and really only care about themselves and what they want. Call me whatever but, truth is truth.

Because its that very lack of appreciation that gets them that caliber of attention and interest.

Cause not everyone is an incel like you who has trouble talking to girls

he either changed his mind about pursuing you because he lost interest, or he figured you were too passive and apparently not into him so he gave up. or a combination of those two.

in either case, if he's gone a week without talking to you it's a pretty good indication that he's lost interest.

Okay now can you say that again without the unnecessary contempt?

>Okay now can you say that again without the unnecessary contempt?

why do virgins talk like this

I don't show girls any appreciation, and in fact my level of anxiety around most women causes me to never smile at them or laugh around them at all. Most of the time if a girl looks at me I scowl at them a bit. Not overtly, just subtly.

I still don't get any interest from girls. What now?

Hate it to break it you, buddy, but humans are ultimately self-serving creatures.
There is no true altruism.
Whatever you think, you're doing out of selflessness, you do it, because it makes you feel better about yourself.
This ain't a bad thing in itself, believe it or not.

I get your point. But, my point is women push that to the limit. Tell me honestly I'm wrong? Tell me women don't try to dominate the convo and bitch and complain cause they don't know what they want or think they do and change it constantly and you as a man, should know what she feels 24/7 and cater to her. That's all fine and good but, if she can not reciprocate that, then she is only good for fucking. Period...

Please don't do this.

I am the original guy who posted I don't hate women, I don't even dislike women. I don't browse Jow Forums or identify with incel beliefs.

I'm still a kissless virgin. People like you cause me guilt by association. You're ruining me. I can't admit to anyone I'm a virgin because they'll instantly presume that I'm one of you r9k droids.

I feel your angst OP but its not anything you did its him but could be several reasons. I'll give a few that happened with me.

He's short on cash right now. While you didn't expect anything of him he wanted to be a man and pay for the dates but he's just a little short and embarrassed about it. He'll be a go again when he's got the cash but since its been a month getting less likely daily.

He wanted only sex and expected you to offer after he paid upfront, didn't get it and pulled the plug. Good riddance

He wanted only sex and using a manipulative tactic to get him a virgin trophy. He's actually glad you didn't sex him right away but he got you nibbling and now set the hook by moving away, confident you'll pursue and give it to him. It takes a degree of sophistication and confidence for a guy to pull this off, if he's both you are being played.

He's having sex with another girl or wining and dining her believing he's got an easier shot. This is probable

He's got a gf or they were going through a rough spot and reconciled. Also probable

Please do not become desperate enough to offer him sex as a way to get him engaged again.

I too get your point, I've had my share of irrational and borderline crazy ones.
They still had genuinely nice aspects about them. Some were even aware about their irrationality, trying their best to act in a 'good' way.
This also lead a lot to overthinking, which required their closest circles, me included, to be of guidance, when they lost themselves.
Yes it is kind of a travesty that men are still expected to be 'the man', having to shoulder bursts of irrationality.
Still, as much as I'm annoyed by that, I found pleasure in this role. It challenges me to remain calm, requires me to seek for knowledge and wisdom.
All of that ultimately helps me becoming a better person. Women recognize this steady progress of maturity, gravitate towards me more steadily. If they recognize themselves in the values I live by, they stick around. Sensing i am firm about them, they allow themselves to slack off less.
If they do, most of it can be solved through a good old face to face conversation. I mean, you'd talk it over with a buddy as well?

What you got to understand is, that most of the above ain't exclusive to females. Women have also to deal with issues, we men can only imagine. And i truly cannot blame them in any form for the likes of hormonal changes.
You will find selfish assholes everywhere. Being a prick isn't exclusive to gender or race.
Also please don't judge others because they sin differently than you. You too are human. And if you genuinely try to become a better person, you too will meet people who do the same, male and female alike. This, I promise

That's not true

Mister Rogers

>bitch and complain cause they don't know what they want
You can be no further from the truth.

Women bitch and complain because we DO know what we want and a guy pretended to be one thing and we discover they aren't.

I'm not familiar with this man. Is he your argument against my statement?

Hes a porn star

>People like you cause me guilt by association. You're ruining me.
Wtf? Look, I'm just saying stop putting the pussy on a pedestal. They are just women, flawed and fucked up. When you stop putting women above you, you will understand what I'm saying. Until then, I might as well talk to the wall.

Ok then. Everybody has a right to his opinion

Ha ! A woman saying a man is pretending? Nice joke, women pretend about every aspect of their lives. Make up and hair styles and how they pretend to not care about dick size to money situation. Women by nature are full of shit.

>(yes, kinda pathetic)
Are you getting your worldview from Lena Dunham trash? If he's not going to put a ring on your finger, don't let him fuck you. You'll be infinitely better off for it.

Call my make up and hair and nice outfits pretending but you know about all this, you watched your mother and or sisters do it and if I was your gf you'd be able to as well but men deceive and manipulate to hide their cold heart and perverted thought.

As to penis size and cash. Women that are into both are upfront about that too, they don't hide it. Men and women know who the gold-diggers are, some gold-digers even advertise for sugar daddies so there's no harm in coming to an arrangement, I wouldn't do it but between two consenting adults fine.

I fail to understand why men are so obsessed with penis size. You guys are the ones measuring and the only time ever I did it was because the guy insisted because he was a braggart.

I'm not arguing with you. No point in it. You won't open your mind to see a different point of view. You're a woman, there for you must be right. Ok, I'll say what every bf or husband will say to you cause he knows isn't worth the effort. Ready ? Yes, dear....then maybe, just maybe you will shut the fuck up.

>Yes, dear
like I said you deceive and manipulate to hide your cold heart

>kinda pathetic
Are you kidding me? Innocence and purity are very attractive in women. How old are you and how did you meet him? I want to find someone who isn't a tinder whore.

Lol, maybe. It's also possible I see through your bs, and you don't like it.

Found the basement-dwelling kissless virgin incel.

Did you pass by a mirror?

This, but tread lightly. He might have jyst expected you to initiate and thought you weren't interested. Not sure all the details, but he could be a defeatist in the dark. Communication is key like others said.

Your post reeks of cope.

Updoot from OP, as I said up there though it got buried, he texted me good morning today out of nowhere. I have no clue why he randomly did so but I just texted him back "good morning :)" and that was all. Not sure if I should still ask about the silence? If he just wants to forget about it and start being attentive, I don't want to be confrontational. Idk what he was going through after all.

It's nice to hear from him again though. Figured I'd let you guys know and see if you guys know where to go from here.

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Woman, you'll be timidly waiting for a guys wims all your life. If not for him, then for the next one.
Talk to him. Ask him why he's so distant. It isn't clingy, it isn't needy. If you don't fend for yourself, no one will.
What you're supposed to do, is to find out whether he is worth your time of the day, or not. After all, he could be merely busy. And you could finds some rest again.

He’s probably just a virgin, you should initiate to get things going.

After getting rejected/ghosted many times I became numb and I don't really give a fuck anymore. If I don't get clear message or feedback, I just give up.

Maybe your guy is in similar position. Maybe he didn't see you like him, so he gave up.

Maybe. I had been texting him about once a week though, making an attempt to keep the conversation going. Every time though he'd have an excuse to have to go (it may have been perfectly legit though).