>Western nations invade middle eastern countries >kill their men and rape the women >children grow up hating influence of outsider on their home nation >form terrorist groups like Taliban, all Qaeda, and Isis >kill random innocent civilians from western countries
>be Aussie living in kiwiland >upset about outsider influence (Muslim immigration) in Europe >go kill random innocent civilians in new Zealand You guys can't support one but not the other. It's time to pick. Either the kiwi was justified and you also think ISIS is, or ISIS is crazy and so was the kiwi.
>hate western civilization >move there for gibs and benefits >loyal to whatever shithole you came from and belong in >blowing people up, flying planes into buildings, mowing people down in box trucks for 30 years >a hero finally responds shooting up a mosque >shitskins now playing victim (like always)
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Aaron Perez
Epic job not responding to anything in my post. Keep making up shit in your own head instead of ignoring anything that you don't know how to rationalize.
Lincoln Robinson
Are we gonna keep going back in time for reasons? How about Ottoman Empire? Persian Empire? Get the fuck off this board, cock sucker
Wyatt Morris
>don't look towards history user the Iraq invasion was like 15 years ago. You really don't see a difference between that and going back centuries? Anyway, by your logic once there are enough Muslims to control any country, they are perfectly correct in killing any whites, since we should just ignore the history of the country. If at that moment the country becomes mostly Muslim, then it doesn't matter one day ago if it was governed by whites. Does that make any sense to you at all?
Christopher Reyes
Should have raped. Imagine, buy now there could be a whole generation of 56%ers coming of age with higher IQs.
Cameron Wood
Yeah, it's all in his head, all of the """>refugees""" in Europe are totally not economic migrants looking for european citizenship and free gibs at the expense of the taxpayers....it's all in our heads...
Carson Phillips
Those "refugees" were legally invited by the government. I have no problem with someone who wants them gone, but they're only there because the nation invited them. If you want to take out your anger, take it out on the politicians. Also, the new Zealand Muslims weren't refugees. They were normal immigrants, or in some cases born and raised in NZ. This retard got triggered by European refugees and decided to go kill the nearest group of brown people, despite their being nothing in common.
Kevin Flores
There were white peoples in the middle east once too. Not only that but most of it was Christian and we even allowed Jews to live in peace there, though under our control. Then you faggots killed us all the way to the fucking Balkans and now many of our cousins' blood has been fouled by your rapes and conquest. We're only retaliating. Turkey is NOT muslim land. Now you're trying to take the nations that our ancestors built? Fuck you. Go home if you want to coexist. Coexistence has nothing to do with proximity. It works far better when we are separate. With completely different governments.
Gabriel Anderson
Didn't respond to anything I wrote in the OP. This is just you getting triggered about "history" which your fellow user here so eloquently pointed out isn't worth going back to.
>we even allowed Jews to live in peace there This was also the case under Muslim rule before world war I.
Camden Russell
>be me >muslim >family has lived in the same homeland for generations, unlike amerimutts >narrowly escape being bombed, murdered & having my family destroyed 4 fucking Israel >leave, go 2 the country responsible 4 the collapse of mine >arrive in america after years of travel >try 2 live life like how i did back home >some alt right virgins (who dont uphold their own beliefs) see this >"lol wtf u r destroying our culture."
There were muslim terror attacks before Iraq, or did you forget how the US justified sending troops there in the first place? GTFO, shitdick
Owen Bennett
>did you forget how the US justified sending troops there in the first place? They sent troops because of 9/11. Judging from how retarded your post is though, you clearly have no idea why 9/11 happened. The US was fucking around in Afghanistan arming extremists to overthrow governments because they didn't play along nicely with us. The whole issue was caused by foreign intervention from western nations in the first place.
Matthew Torres
guys its ok. we only created isis to take down al queda to take down the taliban to take down the russians in a country we had no reason to be in about sixty years ago!
Nah dude there is a lot of rape and piliging in any war no exceptions
Grayson Anderson
Talk shit, get hit. It's the universal truth.
Nolan Lewis
they werent legally invited.
They literally showed up on their doorstep and everyone was like "LET THEM IN OR UR A RACIST".
And then it just kept piling in until its how it is now.
Adrian Lopez
That's how asylum works in many cases. If your countries and populations really didn't want them, there wouldn't have been an outcry of racism for not letting them in. Your government had the choice of simply closing the borders, and they chose not to and allowed them in. That is the very definition of legal entry.
Noah Parker
closing borders would unironically hurt the US economy by a large margin because we outsource our jobs.
Thats why It didnt happen.
Ryder Allen
Why don't I see Muslims being Shane for being religious while the majority religions were shamed to the point most now are atheists? Anyways Taliban and AQ happened way before the wars. They were formed by American and Chinese to destabilise USSR and India during the cold war(It only backfired them badly). ISIS happened once Saddam fell. Notice something? All this happened because West tried to replace Eastern Nations autocracies with their "end of history" liberalism. Do you have anything to say about that liberal faggot?
Luis Perry
>Western nations invade middle eastern countries >kill their men and rape the women >children grow up hating influence of outsider on their home nation >form terrorist groups like Taliban, all Qaeda, and Isis You have this literally backwards you brainlet.
Jeremiah Robinson
We don't rape their women.
Evan Wright
>while the majority religions were shamed to the point most now are atheists Its not just Islam that is protected worldbulletin.net/m/europe/charlie-hebdo-fired-cartoonist-for-anti-semitism-in-2009-h152585.html The actual reason Judaism and Islam are "protected" is because the members of those religious groups are religious minorities in the west; it's the same reason any minority group is a protected class. You may not agree with that, hut the reason is pretty simple. Not sure why you're so mad in the second part of your post, sounds like we agree about that.
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Jose Ward
>user the Iraq invasion was like 15 years ago. You really don't see a difference between that and going back centuries? You are the moron trying to use history as your source of justification for your actions. You can't just arbitrarily declare that history from more than 15 years ago is irrelevant. You either take ALL of the history into account, or you take none at all. Otherwise you end up like the gooks who whine about Japan occupying them while ignoring the fact that they had China attack Japan on several occasions on their behalf as a Chinese client state. Never mind the fact that most "refugees" come from states that have been closely allied with the West (Turkey and Pakistan) for the past half century. So there goes >muh rape and bombings excuse.
>You can't just arbitrarily declare that history from more than 15 years ago is irrelevant I did no such thing. I simply pointed out how retarded our danish friend is for suggesting to ignore history in a subtle manner that clearly went over your head. I thought that was obvious when I said "by your logic" indicating that that is, in fact, not my own thought process.
>If you hate the west Where was this stated or implied?
>be war mongering country that invades and fucks up everything >people flee fucked up countries because fuck dying for israel
It's your own fucking fault, you let the US to fuck everything up then you deserve the aftermath.
Jose Fisher
ISIS is justified, yes, but that doesn't mean we should just let them kill us I fully disagree with our foreign policy to date and dismantling it is one of the reasons I wish for the destabilization of current nation-states Under no circumstances are we obligated to take them into our nations Might makes right, and the west only deserves what happens to it if everyone gives up and stops resisting our demographic replacement
>>narrowly escape being bombed, murdered & having my family destroyed 4 fucking Israel >>leave, go 2 the country responsible 4 the collapse of mine I don't get it, why aren't you in Israel faggot?
Hunter Rodriguez
and all of this happened under the nose of the american people senpai and there's a difference between arming them, aka seeking profits, and killing people for ideological reasons, which is precisely what muzzies are about, and what this guy was/is about
this is the good old weapon dealer vs killer argument and then you strawman and hide behind the REASONS those things happened
Sebastian Campbell
Didn't you pasta muslim propaganda saying basically everything that is bad in Middle East was caused by the west ?
Camden Harris
I recognize the artist, which was why I asked. Thank you.
Andrew Perry
It's not arbitrary, we are dealing with the effects of the War in Iraq and previous destabilization up the the Soviet occupation.
These have to date very real consequences. You caused the problem, you don't get to cry.
Cameron Smith
I didn't pasta anything, that's just history. Feel free to bring up a source to prove me wrong, but the issues we see regarding Muslims today can all be traced back to the 70s involvement of Russia and the US in the region. Prior to this there were certainly problems, but they were contained in the region. Again, I'm open to being proved wrong but you'll need to actually convince me.
It is a known fact that Syrian dissidents, Libyan dissidents and Iraqi dissidents invited the West to (((liberate))) them and establish freedom and democracy.
Whether its fake intel on WMDs in Iraq, or fake civilian casualties in Libya or fake "grassroots" movements in Syria, they all have one thing in common, bleeding heart warmongering idiots falling for Muslim tricks.
i can do whatever the fuck i like asshole wanna fight about it?
Austin Robinson
>It is a known fact I actually did not know this. Could you please cite it? That would be appreciated.
Anthony Nguyen
Being a minority is no excuse for tolerating bigoted belief structures. You could say the same about any minority cult. Besides Islam is not an "ethnic" religion like judaism. Can you tell me why Indian immigrants are some of the most respected immigrants in the West while Muslims are despised. Don't use the race card on Islam. Jews and Hindus despite being minorities don't do terrorist acts in the West. Why should Islam given protected class from criticism then? What is it about Islam that motivates people to conduct terror acts while others don't. You could say that 'Western crimes in middle East' might motivate them more than the other browns. If it were so then what's really wrong in Western nations putting Muslims on watch list when we know they are likely to possess more of a threat? Why is there so much opposition against that when it could save both non Muslim and Muslim civilians? The said terror attack wouldn't have happened if the guy wasn't so radicalised after seeing the public terror acts in Europe.
Justin Garcia
> The US was fucking around in Afghanistan arming extremists to overthrow governments because they didn't play along nicely with us. OBL specifically objected to shit like the Reconquista and the stationing of Americans in Saudi Arabia (an allied state). 9/11 was not perpetrated by the muds we attacked by ourselves or by proxy anywhere, not by Yemenis or Iraqis or Iranians. It was perpetrated by our allies, and not because of Afghanistan.
Evan Collins
>Mudslime terror attack >#NOTALLMUSLIMS #PRAYFORX TERROR ATTACKS ARE PART IN PARCEL OF LIVING IN A MAJOR CITY >some autist does a mass shooting >ALL ALT RIGHT IS TO BLAME EVIL RACIST BIGOT ISLAMOPHOBIC NAZIS BAN GUNS BAN MEMES BAN EVERYONE WE HAVE TO CONTROL WHITE NATIONALISM And you can't vilify one but not the other. It's time to pick. Either all white nationalists are to blame and you think all mudslimes are too, or the autist is crazy and so are terrorists.
If it was they deserve the punishment if it wasnt americans are as victims as you are and you have zero moral legitimacy to all those terrorist attack in the west instead of being directed to israel Wharever the case shut up
Owen Martinez
>>Western nations invade middle eastern countries >after muslims flew 2 planes into the worl trade center You can't have one without the other faggot
Zachary Watson
1. I was assigned a team at birth 2. There's nothing to do on this gay earth other than fight
That is literally it, everything else is mental gymnastics for the sake of morale. As soon as team white people wins we'll just go back to fucking fighting each other
Evan Hernandez
>The actual reason Judaism and Islam are "protected" is because the members of those religious groups are religious minorities in the west; it's the same reason any minority group is a protected class. Bullshit, it's because they're not white. South Africa has affirmative action for niggers.
Literally read the Arab Spring history. Saddam was also dethroned similar ways. And these leaders were keeping the islamic fundamentalists in check only for them to be dethroned because bleeding heart liberals couldn't stop virtue signalling about muh human rights violations there and suppression of the (fundamentalist) oppression.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nayirah_testimony >Kuwaiti government fabricates testimony that Iraqis pulled babies out of incubators and left them to die >head of Read Crescent corroborates >Amnesty International corroborates >war >oops it's not true >Amnesty International reacted by issuing a correction, with executive director John Healey subsequently accusing the Bush administration of "opportunistic manipulation of the international human rights movement".
Jose Wilson
REMINDER TO EVERYONE:
IF YOU SEE ANY POSTS USING CHRISTCHURCH SHOOTING TO PROVOKE VIOLENCE OR TELL YOU TO RISE UP OR TAKE ARMS
IT IS THE FUCKING GLOWNIGGERS
DON'T FALL FOR THE FBI DON'T BELIEVE THE CIA DON'T TRUST THE NSA
IF YOU KILL YOUR ENEMIES, THEY WIN
Lincoln Green
Just like how now bleeding heart liberals are virtue signalling about the suppressions of (again fundamentalist Islamic nationalist) separatists in Xianjing and Kashmir by China and India or Buddhist theocrat class in Tibet.
Kiwi was justified. I'm surprised at the amount of people who don't understand this. Was it the right move long-term? We'll see, but he was morally justified in what he did.
Ian Peterson
>bleeding heart too generous the people in our government knew damn well those cases were false and helped fabricate or conceal evidence in all of them to further their agendas the only bleeding hearts are the human cattle we call voters that supported each humanitarian war
Jordan Robinson
Anyways to answer you OP. This is false dichotomy. Most of these asylum seekers reside in Ghettos and Refugee camps. They are not the ones who conduct the terrorist acts, these people don't have the power to do that. The one who did 9/11 was a trained pilot. The one who did many of the terror acts in West in the last decade comes from stable Muslim countries like Pakistan, Turkey, Arabia, etc... who don't do have much problems due to West in their home Nations.(So your argument 'motivated' by revenge is wholly farce) ISIS indoctrination mostly happen and stays in their home states, not in the asylum states.
Aaron Powell
>You caused the problem That doesn't make any sense, several european countries that were attacked by terrorists never partook in any of the wars. Furthermore, we aren't trying to replace the native population of muslim countries.
Samuel Adams
These people they'll never understand the evil they're doing.
Samuel Ramirez
>((Western)) nations You mean Liberal Zionists OP
Adrian White
>You guys can't support one but not the other. Who's gonna stop me mutt? You? Top kek, sage
Sebastian Lewis
isn't it your duty as a human being to save and help those who beg you?
Cooper Brown
Ahhh yes, good very good HOWEVER who is at the core, the origin of this hmmmmm?
Ayden Scott
And I'm not going to justify the kiwi(imo he had right opinion after reading his manifesto but the wrong target, the target should be the liberal elite enablers of globalist capitalist class like Merkel, Macron, etc..., not a bunch of currycels in some irrelevant city)
Robert Ortiz
>>Western nations invade middle eastern countries >>kill their men and rape the women >>children grow up hating influence of outsider on their home nation >>form terrorist groups like Taliban, all Qaeda, and Isis >>kill random innocent civilians from western countries
Yeah I sure remember when Sweden, Denmark and Belgium invaded Iraq and Afghanistan. OH WAIT.
Camden Cruz
Yeah you just justified when muslims do it to nonmuslim civilians of all races and faiths, and later on went to say it's not justified when a white man does the same to them on a white country they are invading. Go fuck yourself, you are the real terrorist and you deserve to get shot.
Michael Cooper
Wrong, Jews in our goverments invited them and even then such invitation has it's rules like going to nearest safe country (not into center of europe for juiciest gibs) or asking for asylum which 90% of shitskins ignored. So fuck off, muslims are not people.
Landon Stewart
They’re both right
Wyatt Rodriguez
When did Jow Forums ever support invading their shitholes?
Caleb Brown
good example (singular)
Jonathan Wright
10/10 analysis. OP, as per usual, is a massive faggot.
Joseph Lopez
Not sure If sarcastic or not but Denmark was in both those wars.
Justification is for the people who don't have the means to do what they want.
Elijah Wilson
Bleeding hearts can't seem to understand that Muslims have an us vs them mentality inherent in them. It seems so alien to them that people can get so attached to their religion so much (dismissing history where they abandoned their own culture, language and history so that they can imitate the Arabian desert cult, ever wondered why Arabian is spoken whole throughout middle East and Persian whole throughout South Asia until English dethroned Mughals and other Islamic sultanates there?) Muslim brotherhood is an actual thing and Western bleeding hearts seems to be blind to it.
