Nofap=Redpill?

>Also, not emptying your prostate on a regular basis is a great way to get prostate cancer.

There's research pointing both ways on that.

webmd.com/men/news/20030314/well-exercised-prostates-arent-healthier

Also Buddhist monks would have gotten cancer and died a long time ago. They're all required to be total celibates.

>And I wouldn't exactly call Morbidly Obese McDrymouth there "healthy".

Yet he was able to become president while going against the media and the entire political establishment and is basically the most well known person on the planet right now. Look at Bill Clinton on the other hand, at the same age and looks decrepit and lifeless.

i'm reading that frequent masturbation will decrease prostate cancer risk if you are in your 50s
but for young men in 20s and 30s it increases the risk for cancer by 79%

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>plebbit
>not promoting degeneracy like porn and masturbation

its you who needs to go back to plebbit

NoFap is for disgusting chronic masturbators who regularly jerk off to despicable shit and then get angsty once they start getting diminishing returns desu

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i really need to stop

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Trump is clearly on adderrall or some kind of rich elite drugs

fresh oc

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He must be consuming a shitton of adderall then. He sleeps 4-5 hours a day then spends his day fighting the congress and media for shits and giggles.

Neuro-associations are the key to nofap, or periods of nofap I should say.
It comes down to what you associate pleasure with in your brain. If masturbation is thought of as depleting your energy, messy, and inconvenient then the idea won't even come into your head.
If you associate full energy and delayed, far less regular orgasms as more pleasurable, then again your brain is working for you rather than against.

Nofap is Christian. Matthew 5:28, Proverbs 6:25, Galatians 5:16.

I suppose you never had a shit, either?

what a fucking retarded oc desu

Some two months ago I started masturbating without finishing and I must admit it works wonders for your libido, turns you into a real horny motherfucker. Not sure if there are any other benefits to this and if it can actually be called a benefit, but he. I'm only allowing myself to actually cum once a week and it's usually in a woman / on a woman. This has turned into a sexual renaissance of sorts for me, I'm 41 and have regained a sexual drive thanks to this pretty much.

Wouldn't really call it a redpill, what happens is kind of obvious and certainly not unexpected. It really depends on your situation if you want to go with it or not, but it certainly helped me.

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religion is opium for the masses

The man has better things to do than thot worship.

>Trump at the age of 70

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atheism is the opium for the masses. You want to believe there is no point to life so you can go masturbate like a fucking faggot degenerate.

That is, and always was the point of killing meaning to the world.

Wrong. there is no link between prostate cancer and ejaculation frequency. Links at the bottom of article.

Exploring The Purported Link Between Ejaculation and Prostate Cancer

'So claims the breathlessly excited article that pops up in your news feed. The article talks glowingly about a study that found that the more someone ejaculates, the less likely they are to get prostate cancer. And OBVIOUSLY, the inverse is true, that the less someone ejaculates, the more their prostate rebels against them. “So get to it!”, the article implies, “Start fighting that cancer today!”

That’s the story everyone reads, anyway.

I have seen a number of aces use this as their primary reason for masturbating. In a lot of these cases, the rationale is “I have heard that ejaculation helps prevent prostate cancer, so I masturbate because I have to, not because I want to.” I wanted to explore these studies, see what they’re really saying, and see if there really is a good reason for aces to masturbate in order to prevent prostate cancer.'
asexualityarchive.com/exploring-the-link-between-ejaculation-and-prostate-cancer/

Believing with huge relief that you will not have to pay for your own failures, unfairness, and crookedness is the real escape.

Tell me, do you know even one christian who believes because he doesn't like the idea of a meaningless world? Because I can tell you just about every atheist i've ever met believes there is no meaning in some part because he does not want there to be meaning - he doesn't want to be held to the standards of the moral law.

As in it is projection - you say Catholics do this because of your own guilty conscience in doing rationalizing it the same way. No, we do not do this out of wishful thinking, it is very hard to come to know the truth (as any polack knows).

life can have meaning even if there is no invisible wizard in the sky

Wanking is the opiate of the masses. Orgasm stimulates endogenous brain opioids.

Go back from the oven you came from.

sigh, you don't know what you're talking about. Meaning is purpose is design is an end.

To properly understand what "meaning" means, you need to understand just a little quick bit about teleology. The etymology of teleo means end; goal; purpose. Intentions or "designs" have an end, goal, or purpose. Minds can seek certain ends, usually by logically seeing what options they have, and choosing one to bring about.

Random physical processes however do not seek any particular end, they just operate based off of whatever laws they operate on - they have no teleology, no end, no purpose. It is impossible for there to be any purpose or end in the world unless we were designed by a designer.

Life has no purpose without God. Life has no meaning without God. There's no point to it all. This is a fact of your belief system, retard. There is no hope and it's all pointless.

also God is not in the sky, he transcends the physical world, kind of like how a computer game's virtual world is transcended by and emerges from the real world.

porn is degenerative to your endocrinial reward system

it is you who do not understand

i was never religious, my parents were never reliiogs, my grandparents were never religious, my greatgrandparents were never religious

If you feel your life has no meaning without your god then that is your problem. I don't have that problem

t another atheist retard who doesn't take the time to actually read what his opponant is saying. Man I wish you types weren't always complete brainlets. and then you have the gaul to act all smug about it like you're fuckin smart or some shit.

What you're saying makes no sense. You're literary saying that life has no meaning unless some kind of magic exists. You're insane.

I'm saying it is literally, by the very definition of what "meaning" means, is impossible for an atheistic world to have meaning.

Meaning (as in purpose) means it "has a point" or an "end". Things that aren't sentient (like for example, particles) cannot choose any particular ends, they just do what they do - or in other words, there is no end to what physical processes do. There's no point to the physical universe.

Now if the universe was made by God, then God could have made it for a reason, to bring about a certain outcome, of which there would be an "end" that was intended.

In other words "ends" or "purposes" or "meanings" are about what is intended, and obviously a world without God or any sort of mind to bring it about cannot be intended to be any way, and therefor by definition have no purpose.

Let me guess. You believe this:

No one created God. He just came from nowhere and he decided himself what is the meaing of his existance. You think this is great. Glory to God. Hallelujah.

But a human who came from the process of natural selection and decides on a meaning for himself is a retarded atheist. There is no point to his existance. What a brainlet. Btw Jesus walked on water.

Fucking boomer, I can guarantee it.

like what, do you think the (completely nonsentient) physical universe WANTS you to be happy and get married n shit? Because that's what you're saying when you say there's a purpose to the universe in atheism.

No there is no point to life in atheism, and life is no greater than death in atheism. You're moss that just caught off the rocks. The people that tell you there is meaning in atheism are retards who don't know what they're talking about. Being happy is an end you want to choose for yourself, a reason for why you might keep living, but it is nothing but an artificial, made up purpose, it isn't real or true.

The reason why you choose to keep living is a made up meaning, and not true meaning. That you are here is not for any reason, nor to achieve any end.

that says a lot more about her then it does him

Yeah she's telling the truth and isnt controlled by politically motivated handlers. Meanwhile Marla Maples also publicized her sex with Trump.

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Religion can be misused, but at its core its about self control and conservation. How is that an opium? Atheism on the other hand encourages self indulgence.

porn and wanking is literally a ploy to keep all the goys pacified and retarded
if you dont fap got that sexual frustration in you, it forces you to act like a man and either go get a woman to fuck or burn some shit down
stop masturbating
stop looking at porn

Jacking off once a week, at the most, is alright. Porn will destroy your ability to get it up tho

I'm going to do some serious philosophy, so pay attention closely and don't just hand wave it away.

something cannot come from nothing, because in order for something to come from nothing, you would have to exist before you existed. Something cannot come from nothing, because only things that exist can do anything, and you would need non-existing things to be able to do things, which is obviously impossible.

So if something cannot come from nothing, then that means that if there is something in the world, then there can never be nothing prior to it.

What this ultimately leads to, is that whatever it is that created the universe, it always existed; as in there never was a time ever in which it did not exist. Now if you are to say "where did this being come from", then you create a problem: If there was a time in which God came into being, then that means that before that moment, God did not exist, but you can't be an eternal being if there was any time in which you did not exist, and you can't come from nothing, so he must have quite simply always existed.

There is nothing illogical about the idea of God existing eternally (and therefor never coming into being). If God existed eternally, then it is impossible for him to be created, so no one created God. He just always existed.

In the beginning, there was nothing - notice that is not just quoting genesis, but quoting what science has determined by it's own independent study. As an atheist, what can you believe? What caused the universe to come into being? There was nothing in the beginning, time and space itself (let alone physical chemistry) came into being, and it must have been preceded by something that transcends the physical world. This thing must be timeless, spaceless, immaterial (as these are all properties of the physical world), powerful (to make the universe), intelligent (to make it in such a way as to bring about humans). As in you need what is literally God to make the universe.

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I grow chest hair when i do no fap, i get easily aggrivated and can look prople in the eyes......no fap makes you into a real man

Do wet dreams count as a nofap streak breaker user?

no

unless you can gain the self control to control yourself in your dream

The universe doesn't care about purpose. Nothing we can observe requires a purpose to explain why it exists.

Why is there an invisible wizard? What is the purpose? Expalin?

nope, not by Catholic law anyways. I still try not to anyways, but I haven't been getting them recently. I find I tend to get them when I looked at too many lewd things.

kike

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God is an eternal being who created the universe. Nowadays he spends his time punishing people for being homosex. Correct? You must believe this, otherwise your life has no purpse? Correct?

Your philosophy is flawed. Something can indeed come from nothing. You have a very limited idea of what nothing is. The universe we can observe is consistent with one that came from nothing.

>The universe doesn't care about purpose
well that's what i'm saying. You aren't made for any reason, therefore you have no purpose. You aren't created for any end - there is no meaning in life, you just do whatever.

Now you can say that meaning is whatever you make up privately and decide it to be, but that I say to you is simply not meaning. That is a delusion, merely your private reason for why you exist - when there really is no reason for why you exist.

Meaning is not why you choose to exist, meaning is why you exist, regardless of whether you or not you chose it. In this sense, you cannot deny there is no meaning. In the former sense, there is meaning, but it's objectively meaningless meaning.

>be me
>3rd day into no fap for lent
>have dream
>girl in bikini doing back strokes in pool
>I know if I get in pool i can fuck the shit out of her
>decide to stay out of pool

well, i shall prepare for my inevitable prostate cancer

And here we have the real problem. I'm not the nihilist, you are. You are the one who constantly claims that there is point to anything, unless magic exists. Only fucking idiots believe that magic exists. Your conclusion then is to say "well fuck, no magic = no meaning!"
I just say "of course there's no magic" and then I get on with my life.

100% true fact. In Taoism, the Jing is the essence of life and is lost in every ejaculation. It is recommended to have sex without release.

Post a selfie I wanna see if you have beautiful youthful skin

>Nowadays he spends his time punishing people for being homosex.
This is why we know God is good, Homosexuality is sexually crooked behavior, it's an emasculating, especially degenerating cuck fetish. We all have a sense that somethings are right and some things are wrong. This is what is known as "the moral law", or "the natural law". In atheism, there is no reason (other than convenience and personal gain) to follow the moral law, it serves no purpose outside of biology.
In theism, the moral law is written in our hearts to let us know what God's wants of us, and when we have failed, was unfair, or crooked in living as God wishes for us to live. The moral law is very practical, and the problems of the west are entirely summed up by failure in the moral law. We are a degenerate society, because we have lost the faith. Meaninglessness leads to decadence, because why not? That's why you atheists are atheists, you just want to be slaves to degeneracy. You all do it, you all have a stake in there being no meaning, so you can't deny it.

As someone who was raised catholic, our biggest problem is that our people only do things out of a fear of going to hell. "Don't masturbate or you'll go to hell!" Sounds absurd and discourages people from caring, but "Stop masturbating in order to build your sense of self control and become stronger" is a much more motivating sentence.

This is a better way of saying what I meant.

Semen retention != nofap.

Trump is a degenerate that fucks expensive prostitutes 24/7. He might not masturbate (I highly doubt), but he is not retaining anything.

I personally think that homosex is disgusting, but I don't think I think that because a wizard wants me to.
Of course, since you believe that a wizard created all things you must also have an explanation for why the wizard created the faggots.

Simple biology explains to me both why the faggots exists and why I find them disgusting. No need for a wizard.

I'm not in any way a degenerate. Neither is anyone in my family. And your wizard has nothing to do with that.
The reason I'm atheist is because I never had a reason to believe that a wizard exists. It's not to escape some "moral law".

That there are morals, as in things that really are right and really are wrong is also an argument for God's existence, as there can't be true morals if we don't exist for any reason, and there is no God to enforce these laws. Here is the moral argument.

If God does not exist, Objective (as in true) moral values and duties do not exist
Objective moral values and duties do exist.
Therefor God exists

Moral laws have to come from somewhere, they like the universe cannot come from nothing either.
You will just have to give up there being things that are actually right or wrong in the face of this argument, but there are clearly things that truly are right and wrong, so you're forced to believe things that clearly aren't true in order to continue in atheism.

You're quoting Marx you realize, yes? Marx is the man responsible for the idea that has motivated the killing over 250M people in less than 150 years.

Communist atheism is the adrenochrome of the masses.

If a magical being comes to the conclusion that incest is wrong... Then incest is truly wrong.

If non-magical beings come to the conclusion that incest is wrong because it obviously leads to inbreeding... Then incest is not truly wrong.

Correct?

You are using low-tier arguments. Have you never debated a Darwinian before?

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Meaning exists for you - therefore God exists - you just do not recognize and honor Him. You're playing the same game as the rest of us.

boy oh boy thinking about it, it's been a while since I've used traditional arguments for God's existence. Anyways.

>explanation for why the wizard created the faggots.
Fag's inherit their faggotry the same way obese people genetically inherit their obesity from their parents, or alchoholics/smokers inherit their vices from their parents. It litterally doesn't matter even if you're right and it is in your genes that you are predesposed to being a faggot, what's wrong is wrong. To stop thinking homosexuality is wrong because some are more predesposed to others is to think smoking, criminality, alchoholism, and litterally any other vice is perfectly fine. It's dumb.

>magical
Excuse me what is worse, believing that a rabbit was created by a magician by pulling it out of a hat, or believing that the rabbit was created by literally nothing. At least we have the magician (and the hat), you haven't got anything, literally nothing!

And what makes God's power magic? For him changing the universe is like writing code into a computer, not "power".

If my arguments are so low tier, why have you refuted none of them? All you do is just ask further questions for explanations of more things. Are they not convincing? Well there is a lot of work to do in convincing now isn't there! I mean just how many misconceptions would I have to disprove? Clearly not enough for just 1 shitposting session.

Magic is not true.
What is true is that life is a struggle. We developed our behaviours during our evolution, during our struggle to survive. That is true.

Do you really need a magical referee to give you a thumbs up for everything you do in life?

Read or listen to Mere Christianity by CS Lewis. At the least, you'll have better arguments. Right now every one of your arguments is debunked easily in that book.

What's that quote from? It that David Deida?

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Again I need to point out that you do not understand what "nothing" means in a cosmologial sense.

Your only argument is that your definition of meaning has to involve magic. Otherwise there is no meaning.

CS Lewis? No, my arguments are not debunked by him. For you they are but you and I think in completetly different ways. You just can't imagine a world without magic. I can't imagine it with magic.

wow what E micheal Jones said about you fags really is true. You really do take this darwinist shit spiritually, not just theoretically. In spirit, we were forged by survival, has a nice ring right? That's not science, that's spiritual shit, am I supposed to refute that? Am I supposed to refute a spiritual statement that you were forged by survival?

>Do you really need a magical referee to give you a thumbs up for everything you do in life?
And man why is everything you say like a little rebellious kid who doesn't want to listen to his father? You think I believe this because I want permission? I believe it because it is true, it is real, why else would I believe in anything? You keep trying to put words in my mouth like i'm trying to control you. Who do you think controls you more, christians, or your addictions to masturbation and sex? Hmm? Who do you think you could stop more easily, a christian trying to tell you what's literally true, or your intense desire to be a fuckin degenerate? Hmm?

I'd say NoPorn is better. I feel better mentally after fapping without porn.
Kind of hard to do that when I see bitches walking around in tight pants and low cut shirts every time I go out to the supermarket.

I never talked about masturbation. And I'm stil not a degenerate. There's you "putting words in my mouth".

That the survival of our species through the ages has forged us is as much fucking science as it gets. No magic involved.

The real problem with you religious people here in my country is that you always come asking for my tax money to do your religious things. I never ask for money to do "atheist" things.
The fact that you are also completely retared just makes it even more annoying, but the constant begging for money is the real issue.

You atheists have elected a fantasy about Christians, because i'm mr atheist and i'm free to do what I want and no parents can boss me around. Christians only believe because of wishful thinking and this is totally not me projecting my own wishful desire to not have to follow the rules onto them. You create this big old strawman about Christianity as something that hates science and all this garbage, and that's not true, it's really just the boomers that "hate science", not Christians, just that Christians happen to be largely boomer as the youth have been leaving the church. Young christians however are just as science savvy as any atheist.

Actually, in the 21st century, Atheism for the dumb masses and luciferian/satanism/occult for the rich and powerful. Now KYS you discord tranny fag.

Could you specify more exactly what the christian morals are? It seems these "universal objective true morals created by the wizard" changes alot depending on what church or priest you ask. And at what point in history you ask too. How weird!

I'm mr religious and my opinions are validated by an invisible wizard and yours arent

the wizard must exist because otherwise my opinions would no be validated and then they aren't objectively right, then they would just be my opinions and that would make my life without meaing

Funny isn't it? We haven't discussed any moral issues. Theoretically we might have the same opinions. The difference is that my opinions are not validated by a magic power.

>Imagine without magic

The jokes write themselves folks. Let me ask you, do you believe in the big bang? What is your explanation of how the world came into being? Is there a physical edge to the universe? If so, what is beyond that point? Is there a temporal edge? There are many quantum physicists that are operating at the edges of current human understanding, and some of them describe their insights as exactly that - magic. Or - they might say - "energy". Every further stage of scientific understanding mostly (not entirely) invalidates previous ones. Do you recognize the limits in our ability to understand the universe?

nice try kike. I'll be praying for you at mass tomorrow.

>checked

Also you are literally living life on the edge

When I masturbate regularly, I am similarly overstimulated by roasts in their tank tops and short skirts. However, after even a few weeks' abstinence, I don't even need to actively ignore it.
It is not that my brain and libido no longer find those things attractive, they're just set to a much lower priority in my mind after training my brain that it doesn't get a reward every time it thinks about it. It's a very simple Pavlovian system. Stop rewarding your subconscious (or Id, if you want to get real Freudian here) every time it dwells on the roast in the low-cut shirt, and it will stop filling your conscious mind with sexual thoughts every time you see the slightest trigger.

In this modern oversexualized world, this is a constant struggle. We have literal pornography in Netflix shows, softcore in billboards and television ads, explicit references and discussion in radio commercials and the workplace. But it's still a barrier that every man can overcome.

>oh no no no, he unironically believes in the quantum vacuum creating the universe theory
Quantum fluctuations in a vacuum is not nothing.

the problem with Darwinism and everything else, is that they never have any idea how it begins, but once they got something, they can get to where they wanna go.

The natural selection process can only work if you have something to select on. How did the first organism that was to be selected come about? You start with nothing, how do you get a cell? How do you get something from nothing? You've got no order (disorder), how do you get it to form something extremely highly ordered (the cell)? Need I say this is so ridiculously impossible unlikely to have occurred by chance as to put it beyond reasonable doubt. It would literally be a miracle.

But don't worry, once you have that cell, you can get whatever animal you want.

Same thing with cosmology; How do you get a universe from nothing? Oh well there was matter, it was very small and very dense, and it exploded - but wait a minute "but there was matter", that's not nothing. You're starting with something, how did that matter get there?

Same thing with language, because even if you had a monkey, the difference between a man and a monkey is language. A monkey is not self aware, and cannot speak language. How can language come about from nothing? Learning a language would only be useful for talking to rocks unless there was someone else to talk to, so the origin of language requires multiple people to know the same entire language at the same time, and is accrues no survival advantage until then. Language is just to complicated for that to work.

At every step the naturalist cannot explain the beginning, which can clearly only be explained by something being created at once in one moment, like language, proteins (you need proteins to make other proteins, which means they must have been created by something else), and the big bang.

Those are some very good questions. I think we should continue our research into those areas.

The big bang seems plausible. When there was nothing, there was nothing. That means there was no natural laws either. Because there was really nothing. This nothing was unstable and yadayada, just google "a universe from nothing". That's what I think is the most plausible explanation right now.

We have brains developed to survive here on Earth, they did not develop to understand the universe. But we have made quite some progress regardless. There is a possibility that we will never be able to understand some things, or many things. This does not prove that jesus actually made water into wine.

Even in your dreams you are a cuck

Believe it or not, but the doctrines of the church on morality do not and have never once fundamentally changed in the various councils or in ex-cathedra statements by the Pope. We believe what was handed down to us, though of course in practice many Christians do not act this way.

I don't want to say I "believe". I prefer to say that is the most plausible explanation given what we know right now.

>but you can't explain exactly how the first living cell formed! you have only theories! this proves that the bible is true?

doesn't it also prove the quran is true? can they both be true at the same time?

the pope is the head of one church. There is and have been many others. And then there are all the non-christian religions too. Even non-abrahamitic ones.

how close do you need to be to the catholic church to avoid hell?

Jacking it once in a while is probably ok, although doing it too often is certainly detrimental.
The real enemy, though, is porn.

no, darwinism will never prove how the universe, or biological life got here, as these were supernatural events. We know that it is "supernatural" because high amounts of order cannot rationally be believed to come about by chance, where as high order regularly and easily comes comes from minds, and the beginnings of all these things requires high amounts of order that cannot be reduced. This is why a mind (as in God's mind) is the best explanation for the profoundly unlikely events surrounding the creation of the universe.

it is God who condemns, not his church. You do however need to be in communion (as in not in schism) with the Catholic church to be saved. No salvation outside the faith, ect.ect. Yes yes I know you are going to complain about how unfair that is, but if you or anyone else genuinely sought the truth, you would be led to the Catholic church. You don't however seek the truth, so you probably won't be.

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