Ancient writings on Sub-Saharan Africans?

I feel like before the Jews got a stranglehold on the public conversation, people were pretty red-pilled about everything. I've seen Ancient Middle Eastern texts (c.600 AD) where writers call blacks "closer to a beast than a human" "unintelligent and incapable of deep thought" etc etc.

Do any such texts exists from the Ancient Rome or Ancient Greek days? I presume they had some form of contact with these people (i.e. through slave trade). Also the BBC tells me that there were free blacks in London in the time of the Roman Empire.

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There's an entire collection of what's basically Abbasid/Ottoman era writings about Sub-Saharan Africans that I remember but I don't have it.

This?

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why are whites so fucking insecure? nobody gives a fuck about history.

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This is very enlightening, thanks.

>nobody gives a fuck about history
And that's why you may be doomed to repeat it someday and probably when it's least expected and from the least expected group of people too.

What is a Mauritius?

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insecure? it's just baffling that africans exist to white people to be honest

Voltaire always had funny commentary on jews and niggers, he's not from antiquity of course

>It is a serious question among them whether [the Africans] are descended from monkeys or whether the monkeys come from them. Our wise men have said that man was created in the image of God. Now here is a lovely image of the Divine Maker: a flat and black nose with little or hardly any intelligence.

Fuck off pajeet

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In antiquity, Memnon, one of the greatest heroes of the Trojan War, was an Ethiopian; Julius Caesar and later Octavian adopted a North African, Juba II, who went on to become a distinguished scholar and soldier, and married a Greek princess, Cleopatra; and Zeno, the founder of Stoicism, was a Phoenician, yet virtually worshipped by the Athenians.

Shakespeare clearly saw nothing innately wrong in interracial marriage. He wrote the play "Othello," which portrayed the titular hero, a black man, as an entirely noble and worthy person, married to a white woman of consummate virtue, and the racialist Iago as an absolute villain. Iago attempts and fails to stir up prejudices against Othello by calling him "black Moor," "thick lips," and "old black ram." A few people try to claim that Othello was not a negro, but the racial aspects of the play would make no sense if he was an Arab, since then he would then be too little distinct from a southern Italian. Othello has been interpreted as a negro by critics from the earliest criticism of the play, see e. g. Thomas Rymer.

In the 18th century you had such eminent coloured men as the Chevalier de St-Georges, champion fencer, classical composer, virtuoso violinist, and conductor of the leading symphony orchestra in Paris. He served as a colonel of the Légion St.-Georges, and is sometimes called the "Black Mozart."

Alessandro de' Medici, Duke of Florence, also known as "il Moro," the son of an African slave, was ruling over Florence, the most cultured city in Europe, in the 16th century.

The full-blacks Ignatius Sancho and Phyllis Wheatley wrote prose and poetry of a very high order, and mixed-race blacks like Alexandre Dumas or Machado de Assis are considered among the greatest writers of Western literature.

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Further to antiquity: in the Thalia, Herodotus describes the ancient Somalians (or Macrobians) as being among the most beautiful and powerful people in the world, and capable of resisting the full might of the Persian Empire.

Hesiod refers to the "high-souled Aethiopians" as being "black-skins." (Catalogue of Women, 700 B. C.)

Memnon, the Ethiopian before-mentioned, Homer (the father of Western literature) makes an allusion to in the Odyssey; and he was a prominent part of the lost epic "Aethiopis." Homer, incidentally, also portrays the Trojans just as sympathetically as the Greeks, and is humanistic in his outlook rather than blindly nationalist.

The black cities of Aksum and Meroe, in modern-day Sudan and Ethiopia, were well-respected by the ancients as powers and civilizations.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kingdom_of_Aksum
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Meroë

Even the ancient Hebrews were not anti-black. In the Book of Numbers, Moses downright marries a black woman (called Zipporah); Miriam protests against this, and is cursed by God in turn with a skin-whitening leprosy, seemingly as a punishment for her racialism.

We know the woman was black because she was a Cushite. Josephus identifies that people with the Ethiopians; the Septuagint (the version of the Bible which Jesus himself quotes from) translates the word Cushite as Ethiopian; and Jeremiah asks, in Lamentations, "Can the Cushite change his skin, or the leopard his spots?". The word Ethiopian itself (first employed by Homer 3,000 years ago) means "burnt-faced." "Aithein" means "to burn" and "ops" means "face."

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I'm sceptical because iv seen lots of other facts like these are they turn out to be total nonsense when you scratch the surface but I dont hate blacks enough to engage right now.

Newly arrived blacks have started violence gangs in Ireland. Roaming the streets attacking people. Literally no other immigrant group has done that. So yeah. No one wants them to come.

You will find just as many quotations from Middle-Eastern writers which say directly the opposite of these, which were merely written to justify slavery.

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Ibn Khaldun attributed the “strange practices and customs” of certain African tribes to the hot climate of sub-Saharan Africa and made it clear that it was not due to any curse in their lineage, dismissing the Hamitic theory as a myth.

The 14th-century North African Berber geographer and traveller, Ibn Battuta, on his trip to western Sudan, was impressed with occasional aspects of life.

Battuta later visited the Zanj-inhabited portions of East Africa and held more positive views of its black people.

"We … traveled by sea to the city of Kulwa (Kilwa in Tanzania)…Most of its people are Zunuj, extremely black…The city of Kulwa is amongst the most beautiful of cities and most elegantly built… Their uppermost virtue is religion and righteousness and they are Shafi’i in rite."

"[The people of Mombasa in Kenya] are a religious people, trustworthy and righteous. Their mosques are made of wood, expertly built."

Ibn Battuta was also impressed with aspects of the Mali Empire of West Africa, which he visited in 1352, writing that the people there:

"…possess some admirable qualities. They are seldom unjust, and have a greater abhorrence of injustice than any other people. There is complete security in their country. Neither traveler nor inhabitant in it has anything to fear from robbers or men of violence."

In addition, he wrote many other positive comments on the people of the Mali Empire, including the following:

"I met the qadi of Malli… he is a black, has been on a pilgrimage, and is a noble person with good qualities of character… I met the interpreter Dugha, a noble black and a leader of theirs… They performed their duty towards me [as a guest] most perfectly; may God bless and reward them for their good deeds!"

>Othello
Othello was a Moor. He was Middle Eastern. Back then, the UK was so white that being Middle Eastern/Arab/Berber got you called "Black". Also, for the purposes of the play they wanted to emphasise Othello's foreigness. In no way was he meant to be SUB-SAHARAN black.
I think we can all agree than even Moors are less subhuman than sub-saharans.

>Chevalier de St-Georges
Chevalier was half-white. I'm not disputing the fact that half-castes can sometimes have redeemable qualities (Obama was somewhat human, intelligent and affable, thanks to his Mother's white DNA).
> Alessandro de' Medici
He was a Moor, closer to Berber/Middle Eastern than pic-related.

Berbers are Aryan. I'm not looking for half-castes or Aryans. I'm looking for proper sub-saharan blacks.

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I'm not sure if you're saying these people were black? Juba ll wasn't remotely black

>nobody gives a fuck about history
Spoken like a person whose people couldn't invent an outhouse. All things we accomplish are done so by learning what came before.
Cell phones didn't pop into existence you unremarkable monkey. It was a very long procession of improvements. It wasn't a single eureka moment that shat them out. It is the culmination of many different inventions whose characteristics could be used in unison to create the product that allows you to slop your repulsive ignorance onto the rest of us.

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my house keeper is from ur country. and she believes in voodo and magic. is that common where your from or is it just her and her close family?

>Tfw I found out black Americans aren’t African but are actually from north and South America

youtu.be/ibtOV3kjxbE

>Othello was a Moor. He was Middle Eastern.

Queen Elizabeth expelled a number of negro blacks from England in her day, and they were explicitly called blackamoors. A merchant of Lubeck named Caspar Van Senden was authorized to “take up…Blackamoores here in this Realm and to transport them into Spain and Portugal." It was the interpretation of the play Othello that Othello was a negro from the very commencement; virtually every critic has done so, from the 17th century onward. Iago uses the widely-different racial characteristics of Othello against him; calls him thick-lips and black ram; Othello is a foreigner from a far-away place; hence it makes no sense for him to be a mere swarthy man, since Italians are already often swarthy; the play in that case, as well as all these epithets, fall into meaninglessness.

>He was a Moor, closer to Berber/Middle Eastern than pic-related.

No; he was not a Moor, but the son of a blackamoor or negro, an African slave-woman, which is why (being a mulatto) he appears Middle-Eastern to you. If he could look so swarthy as this, despite being half white, what do you suppose his mother must have looked like?

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>Chevalier was half-white.
>I'm looking for proper sub-saharan blacks

I explicitly mentioned Phyllis Wheatley and Ignatius Sancho, who were fully black. The latter man was the intimate friend of such luminaries as Garrick and Sterne, and widely admired for the wit and force of his letters; as for the former, she was a pure-blooded African, born into slavery, self-taught in Latin and in literature, and praised in her day by George Washington himself for her poetry, which is just as fine and stirring as anything which the cavalier poets of the 17th century could compose. It is to the eternal glory of her race that she was capable of writing, among many others, this beautiful poem:

On Virtue

O thou bright jewel in my aim I strive
To comprehend thee. Thine own words declare
Wisdom is higher than a fool can reach.
I cease to wonder, and no more attempt
Thine height t’explore, or fathom thy profound.
But, O my soul, sink not into despair,
Virtue is near thee, and with gentle hand
Would now embrace thee, hovers o’er thine head.
Fain would the heaven-born soul with her converse,
Then seek, then court her for her promised bliss.

Auspicious queen, thine heavenly pinions spread,
And lead celestial Chastity along;
Lo! now her sacred retinue descends,
Arrayed in glory from the orbs above.
Attend me, Virtue, thro’ my youthful years!
O leave me not to the false joys of time!
But guide my steps to endless life and bliss.
Greatness, or Goodness, say what I shall call thee,
To give an higher appellation still,
Teach me a better strain, a nobler lay,
O Thou, enthroned with Cherubs in the realms of day!

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phillis_Wheatley
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ignatius_Sancho

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Well that was shit hahaha. I've screenshotted it and added it to my folder full of proofs of black inferiority. If this is the best they can cook up that's hilarious.

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with that nose that guy isnt definetly a black nor a half breed, have you ever seen a black in real life?