Real socialism has never been tried because it has never been done in a rich country. Nations like Russia, China, Venezuela, all failed at socialism because they were shitty countries, not because socialism doesn't work. Saying socialism doesn't work because shitty countries couldn't make it work is like saying Capitalism doesn't work because African countries are shit.
If a rich country like the USA or UK tried socialism, it would work because these countries aren't shit to begin with.
Fuck off faggot
>If a rich country like the USA or UK tried socialism
why would they do that
no u
To bring the poor people up
Or you could say that UK and US aren't shit, because they've never had socialism
more like bring rich people down
FPBP
Kek that's what Marx said, socialism would only work if there was a capitalist economy before.
Except transition into a centralized economy means abolishing private property . Your ass starts for ground zero faggot .
Except transition into a centralized economy means abolishing private property .Your ass starts for ground zero faggot.
China was a hardcore communistic country where people were literally starving until 1978 when the Communist Party authorities began economic reforms introducing liberal market principles.
China was a shitty socialistic country until they introduced capitalism.
Russia wasn't that far behind the rest of Europe before the revolution.
it would 'work' for a period of time, then it would collapse. While it is 'working' your government will go mad with power as they always do, it's just human nature.
It's not a self sustaining system, it spends more wealth than it creates.
Right, it's dependent on a completely different system, and once you remove that system on which it is dependent, it's only a matter of time that it falls apart.
USSR was the 2nd biggest economy in the world for a long time. They were also close to being an autarky, while the US economy was heavily linked with poor 3rd world countries. If the employees in those countries were analyzed as part of the US economy as well (which seems fair), who's to say the US GDP/capita would not have been lower than the Soviet one?
>hey were also close to being an autarky,
they looted their satellite states
But the US/UK already have a lot of socialist policies, Poo.
>Real socialism has never been tried
faggot
This. Equal misery for everyone
If a rich country were to try and implement socialism it would end up being a poor country.
India used to much more socialist and as soon as they turned over to capitalism they experienced incredible economic growth, so your point is dumb.
Only National Socialism worked, prove me wrong OP
UK is largely "socialist" by modern definitions. As is the rest of north and western Europe.
But their country is still a shithole.
India is essentially a giant outsourcing factory.
It was actually the opposite. They sent tons of money to allied communist states that would have been better spent at home. Then they forgave most of the loans. Kind of the opposite of what the IMF does.
their standard of living is much higher now. they used to starve in tens of thousands before capitalism.
Imagine being this fucking retarded.
Russia went from half-agrarian shithole to industrialized state in 20 years. How this is not success?
So what you're saying is you have to start off with a gazillion dollars that fall from the sky for socialism to finally work? You keep waiting for that to happen lad.
Just like other Ching chongs
Not at all.
China is objectively superior by whatever metric you wanna use.
The has state the money, you pay the state to purchase goods. The state pays you to work. It does not go anywhere.
Well.. That's why those countries are rich, because they've never tried socialism.
yeah on the back of its people. they fucked people lives with it!