Isn't rent just theft?

It's like agario, everyone feeding on everyone else

How did they get property to even rent out you dumb fuck? And why are you renting out when you should have family? Renting is kikery but Whites chose this shit lifestyle.

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Nah they'll just fuck you and exclaim that you should be honored.

>just really stupid!
Not if you're among the few ones making tons of money from it.

>2019
>not buying a car then folding a queen size memory foam mattress in half running diagonally and tucked behind front passenger seat that’s moved all the way forward during sleep mode then tinting and installing rain guards on windows to crack them at night incognitoly, parking at 10pm in an apartment complex like you live there and sleeping and waking up 5am to the elements comfy and redpilled and manly, pissing in the cup then dumping it out the door then driving to your favorite breakfast spot for some coffee and a shit, renting small storage unit, opening P.O. box, working out and showering at the gym doing leg day at the office complex you deliver to by climbing 11 flights of stairs then taking elevator down doing 2-3 sets 2-3 times per week, driving full time as a courier bringing people food making $1,000 per week (saving for taxes) and paying off the car within a year while building credit and saving up for a down payment on a house to raise a big family in or paying cash for a trade school that will let you weld or do similar work anywhere in the country that pays well and having the freedom to get up and travel anywhere in the U.S. at any time and not having a boss.

Why even live, apartment cuck?

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Society functions best when the majority of the population own their own dwellings instead of renting.

>nothing to earn it
tfw paying 4 mortgages every month...

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Holy fuck your dense

Dont complain about things you did to yourself.

Potential rape van scenario incoming. Also, never sleep in cars in the “city”

No it's the same as a tax except on a smaller scale.

he earned the house

>All wealth is acquired through work
top kek. Is that what post-soviet propaganda tells you?

>Living in ancap "utopia"
>Everything is exactly the same except the state calls it-self a corporation now and the president is now a CEO

>Isn’t rent just theft
No, it’s rent

>implying I will ever have $100k for an adequate down payment

and theres no roads

so blame the parents who decided to fuck without thinking through the ramifications

Then don’t. You act like you are forced to rent. My previous landlord didn’t maintain shit. I called my lawyer and got out and now own my own shit without getting a kike mortgage

I blame faggots like you who refuse to improve their life situations. I now make around $3,000 a month in purely passive income. Like I could quit working and live off that comfortably. Using no degrees nothing from my parents knowledge. Just took udemy courses and applied my self

How about we just kill the rich and take their money instead?

You're a loser and a faggot.

I am one of eight children whose parents worked in construction and low level (LNA) respectively. They were white niggers. Always waiting for tax time to have a shopping spree. They had no planning or had any 14 words ideology or anything like that.

>tfw 19, homeless in 2005
>tfw living in a van
>tfw could feel the back of the van rocking
>tfw mother gets pregnant twice while having no home to raise both newborns

They're still homeless to this day. Fuck them. Why bring more children into this world if you cant take care of the ones you have now?

most of property is inherited. nobody who has to "work hard" has the means to buy property and not live there

b-but m-muh whitu race

Smile Again with an emoticon, do it....And I'll douse u with marinara....

They're clueless people who dont see Jews as a problem, but everything "is the Saudis fault"!

Who built the land underneath the house? Or did your parent's get that for free?

> be me
> parents bought me a house at 18 years old
> relax

Buy a house and stop paying rent then. Problem solved.

How is that any different to rent?

And landlords make the most income when most people rent instead of owning. So the landlord's interest is directly opposed to society's interest.

It is strange.

It gets even more strange as you look at the methods for acquiring rental properties, or making claims to abandoned properties. Whoever has the "best claim" gets it, and that can at times come down to a process of first come first serve. There are agencies out there looking for dead people, so they can claim, renovate, and sell.

Certain founding fathers were against the concept of landlords, whom profit via renting property, while reaping excessive benefit.

Some local economies are stifled by overpriced commercial property. In theory there should be capitalistic incentive to lower the cost of rent if a business plot is empty, but actually, if you own multiple business plots in the same area, renting one at a lower price will lower the price for all other plots, so you'd rather wait it out and let the local economy die, or rent out less plots at a higher price.

Then we get into how all this rent is being backed by inflationary fake jew money printed out of computer screens, tied to huge interest, creating housing bubbles.

Couple that with AirBNB which turns some property into hotels now, where locals must compete with tourists in some cities for inflated housing costs (thus causing AirBNB to be banned or limited in some countries)

The entire system is disgusting and strange in the sense that it all seems dysfunctional.

A better system may be to build and distribute low cost housing to workers so long as they work near the housing, as well as infrastructure to connect housing to cities. I believe that's what Hitler did to pull his economy out of depression. But if that is too socialistic, perhaps laws should be passed to enable a mechanism to de-incentivize property vacancy. For instance, perhaps a public tracker of interested parties towards rental locations, and if that location is still vacant after X time then property will enter a bidding phase w/ the interested parties at some % of the median cost of housing. Just ideas.

this

Are you 14? Have you ever had a job?

>Buy a house

You mean pay all the rent up front?

>Doesn't want to pay for goods and services rendered
Nigger

This is what full on liberarians, mostly living on previous free land that their ancestors "privatized" will tell you: if there is no land left, leave for another planet. So their self reliance concepts work. They have lots of those arguments up their sleeves why you are poor and need to work your way up 60h/week

how is that different to tax?

The landlprd has to pay over half that rent to insurance, taxes and repairs.

>i own this house. i'll let you live in it if you pay me
>ok
i'm not seeing the issue here

The better system is the single tax system. A single tax on the unimproved value of land. Land would belong to whoever can make the most money from it. A true meritocratic system where the productive get the full value of their hard work and ingenuity, while the sponges are left to live on what everyone else can spare.

The most fair system, the most productive system, and yet you should watch libertarians squeel when you bring it up.

henrygeorge.org/pdfs/PandP_Drake.pdf

He could always give the house to the people living in it and avoid those costs entirely.

It wouldn't be theft if the price was reasonable, but it isn't.

And how do you intend to do that? The truly "rich" hold their money safely in bank accounts offshore. The upper class rich also hold their money in banks. In fact we live in a time where no one actually owns the money they have anyway. It's plastic paper you can wipe your ass with and half the times banks wouldn't even hold the equivalent of your fiat money in actual wealth.

All that would occur in your scenario is you kill a bunch of your country's smartest minds, smart enough to run businesses, while minds like yours not even fit to operate a check out counter at Wal-Mart all starve to death for a decade because there's no one running your country because you killed all the owners of the businesses of trucking and shipping transportations, supermarket chains and conglomerates, logistics corporations. Some of the richest people in the world own fishing empires. You kill them and their boards of directors and their fishing companies lose over 80% of function because no one knows what the fuck do you and you come in and say "hey, go fish retard" but you don't know the fucking logistics of running a multi-billion dollar international fishing company

Sounds interesting, never heard of this one.

Honestly, I want a politician willing to address the inflated cost of property (which never really ended since the housing crisis), dissect what's wrong with the system, and get this shit to enter the public Zeitgeist.

But for now, libertarians will just admit that fake money ruined the housing market - without offering real solutions that fit current reality. And the left just want to build projects filled with drugs and little to no property maintenance incentive.

>I own this land, I'll let you build a house on it at your own expense if you pay me.

Why am I paying you so that I can build a house for me to live in?

mud huts dont count, poo

Read that book. It will change you.

Breathing is theft, how dare humans breathe air that they didn't earn or pay for.

Landlords take the rist of the tenant being good or a complete shithead. Look on youtube for bad tenants and you'll see the kind of risk they take on just to break even on their mortgages.

because the land is his and he is allowing you to build on it instead of forcing you off

yes rent-seeking is the most jewish thing on this earth, ZOG traitors and dying for israel have nothing on the sheer jewishness of the mere concept of landlording

>And how do you intend to do that? The truly "rich" hold their money safely in bank accounts offshore.
Money only has value to the extend it can be exchanged for real goods. The elites wealth comes from control of the means of production which can be seized.

Not the guy you are replying to, but if I'm poor and starving then killing the rich guy and taking whatever happens to be in his house makes me instantly better off. The collapse of the fishing empire is no skin off my nose in this scenario. From my individual point of view it's all benefit.

This is the hypocrisy of libertarianism, you preach individual self interest but actually expect most people to act counter to their own self-interest for the good of society.

Is there a difference between rentseeking and usury?

No. Someone else owns the building.

Why is the land his? He didn't build it. He didn't buy it from someone who built it. He just says it's his and you believe him.

I get money from 2 appartment rentals. You've got to be shitting me if working to accumulate capital, not buying stupid shit and entering into a tough contract to upkeep is "did nothing for it".
If it's easy, you buy your own house.

If you had more than two braincells, you would realize we already live in a natural ancap utopia

>Why's this full of 12 yr old commieshits
Oh it's Sunday

it's his if he has the means (especially violence or threat of) to maintain its exclusivity

Right, so if I'm better at violence it is RIGHTFULLY mine. If I kill him and take it then no one else has the right to complain.

That's not true

Theres always the risk of some dumb fuck starting a fire and the overall maintenance of the place. I guess renting is a nessassary evil as I cant be spending all this money for a house and it's not even move-in ready.

more like he is a kike who inherited it from endless line of other kikes

some people buy land from someone else ... wtf

>100k$ for a down payment
Fuck it must suck to be American.
If i want a house I'll only need 5% of its value to get a loan.

And where'd they get it from?

depends on the society you or he lives in. one society might accept your crushing him and respect your conquest. another might decide to crush you in return and return the land to the previous owner. another might just keep you from using violence in the first place (like the one we live in). which society do you want to live in?

Waiting for the restructure after theres not enough people paying property taxes when theres entire neighborhoods of vacant McMansions.

That guy is just a defeatist asshole looking for reasons he sucks. 20% down here at the max, I put 5% down on every home I've bought.

100k is a ridiculous down payment unless you are trying to buy a massive mansion.

Actually, in America, if he succeeds and gets away with it, and no bank or person makes claim to the land within 5 years, I believe he gets to keep it by filing a claim for the land and having proved he lived there for 5 years (while avoiding being found out to be the murderer by masking the landlord's death as having been of natural cause)

>society
So it's got nothing to do with the landlords ability to use violence then, and this society enforces it's will through some sort of police force one can only assume. Who pays for this police force? The landlord? Or everyone else?

I want to live in a society where if I build it, it's mine. If you are not using a piece of land then it does not belong to you. I certainly don't want to live in a society where I pay for the police to enforce the landlords fictional "rights".

I know three "millionaires" all three had blue color trade jobs as young men, Two bought houses and rebuilt them to rent and sometimes sell to make more money to buy distressed houses to rebuild. One bought an empty lot and built a warehouse with his own hands and rents that in 1000SQ sections to small businesses

Homo sexers don't know the power of hard work

It still takes work to maintain a property. Government regulations on them increases the rent, dumb ass.

>isnt welfare just theft?
>Doesn't it seem strange to hand over 1/2 your paycheck to some guy who did nothing to earn it?

This, and 20% is with light or challenged credit.

They could always give the property to the renter to avoid those costs dumbarse.

No it's well known we are paying them so they behave, otherwise we'd have increase crime, but really, its dumber to pay a guy ransom money to not kill you everyday than to pay rent.

Landlord here.
It’s not all glitz and glam. Not unless you’ve been in the business for a long time, or you were lucky enough to inherit a family empire.
Let me break this down for you.
If my mortgage is 400 dollars a month, I charge my tenant 650 a month.
Now can you live off 250 a month?
No, you need to have multiple properties.
But even when you think you’re pulling in enough money, there’s always grey area.
Honestly, people are just stupid. And nothing will make you realize this more than when you become a landlord.
It’s like they are literal helpless children and I have to hold their hand through every repair or maintenance.
One of my tenants legit can’t change her own lightbulbs.
Being a landlord is not a “turn-key” operation. You don’t get to just sit on your ass all day and collect money.
It is a lot of work. I am constantly working on something, from putting new floors down, to residing a house.
It’s work, like any other.

sounds like you want a free market anarchist type society

So what? My property is mine to dispose of how I desire. If I desire to give it as a gift to my kinsman, my labor is not obviated by doing so.

It's not my fault YOUR family are lazy and left you nothing.

>we

Inspirational, but it's the "bought houses" part which is easier said than done.

Like a guy complaining about rent could afford to maintain the place. Also "gub me day 4 free", the person bought the place, put money into it, you fucking thief. They are working class.

That isn't remotely true....

Free market is not possible without free land. If all the land is owned that's not a free society, it's a feudal society.

The only way to have a free society is with a single tax of 100% of the unimproved value of land.