God this guy is such an honorary boomer. I'm a Christian. I don't support abortion past the first trimester, and am adamantly against late term abortion, but it's boomerthink like this that makes all right-wing people appear to place blind faith before reason. Stephen Lowder literally is just assuming that unique genetic code = life. Well fucking prove it, Lowder.
He’s right. Nice zoomer gymnastics. What is it about the lack of belief in God or transcendental truth makes people retarded?
>Hurrrr well who says a fully grown clump of cells with two legs and arms that can walk around and say “goodnight daddy” is a real person? How do you know you’re really alive and not just a brain in a vat, man? *puffs joint profusely* it’s like all random chance man.
Luis Lopez
enjoy hell, hedonistic sinner
Nathaniel Sanders
The millisecond the sperm cell cracks the egg, a sequence is set in play that will quite often create a human being. What more do you need? How is that even debatable? Regardless, why the fuck do you care what CR thinks? Make up your own fucking mind and do whatever the fuck you want. No one cares.
Anthony Davis
It is alive, but "because its organic and is not dead" isn't a good argument.
I don't support abortion, I tolerate it. Why? Black babies are the primary victims. The killing of an unborn child is aberrant, but so is 90% of everything else modern humans do. If you worthless piles of shit can rationalize murdering your own children that's between you and God.
Henry King
>circle around head >shitty facebook meme >christian hahaha you really do need shit fed to you. ANOTHER facebook meme. I bet you faggots think the shooting was fake too.
Death isn't the opposite of Life in the scientific perspective. Death means "the irreversible cessation of all vital functions especially as indicated by permanent stoppage of the heart, respiration, and brain activity" Back then, a heartstroke would mean death, but because of contemporary medicine that's not the concept of death anymore. That would lead to counter arguments like "If someone is braindead that means they are alive, so if the fetus doesn't have a brain yet, it's not a live" Also organic doesn't mean organism, could be just an organic compound
Benjamin Green
dont think so faggot. Nice facebook filename btw. great not persecute yourself somewhere else faggot.
>Supports murder of babies >Identifies as Christian GTFO faggit!
One day you will face judgement for your crimes, and that is a big one. You should be slaughtering abortion doctors like a true warrior of faith
(All that is satire) >Place is overrunning with glow people
Landon Reed
"Human embryos from the one-cell (zygote) stage forward show uniquely integrated, organismal behavior that is unlike the behavior of mere human cells. The zygote produces increasingly complex tissues, structures and organs that work together in a coordinated way. Importantly, the cells, tissues and organs produced during development do not somehow “generate” the embryo (as if there were some unseen, mysterious “manufacturer” directing this process), they are produced by the embryo as it directs its own development to more mature stages of human life. This organized, coordinated behavior of the embryo is the defining characteristic of a human organism.
In contrast to human embryos, human cells are alive and, under some circumstances, they can assemble into primitive tissues and structures. Yet under no circumstances do mere human cells produce the kind of coordinated interactions necessary for building a fully integrated human body. They do not produce tissues in a coherent manner and do not organize them so as to sustain the life of the entity as a whole. They produce tumors; i.e., parts of the human body in a chaotic, disorganized manner. They behave like cells, not like organisms." The conclusion that human life begins at sperm-egg fusion is uncontested, objective, based on the universally accepted scientific method of distinguishing different cell types from each other and on ample scientific evidence (thousands of independent, peer-reviewed publications). Moreover, it is entirely independent of any specific ethical, moral, political, or religious view of human life or of human embryos" Now, stfu loser
Evan Hughes
Did you retweet that fake quote? Atheists don't belong in America. Go to New Zealand.
Can you debunk any of that? Is that anti scientific to you? You literally wanted proof and now you're mad because i showed you one?
Connor Watson
>sound logic is boomer thinking
ok moron. does that embryo contain all the genetic information and DNA to facilitate the development into a lifeform? yes? ok, then life began at conception when the full 46 chromosomes were put together. dipshit
Isaiah Jones
>filename amazing facebook images faggot. they were all masons
In the Gospels: Matthew 1:1-17 and Luke 3:23-38 emphasize that Jesus was Jewish and a descendent of David. Matthew 10:5-6 - Jesus instructs the disciples to take the Gospel to the Jews first, not the Gentiles. Matthew 15:21-28 - Jesus tells a Gentile woman that he was sent to save the Jews first. The Jews are far from being the only ones involved in Christ's persecution and crucifixion. Pilate let Jesus be crucified despite realizing his innocence (Mk 15:9-15) and the Roman soldiers mocked and persecuted Jesus, as well as doing the actual crucifying (Mt 27:27-31, Lk 23:11, 35-37). John 4:22 - "Salvation is from the Jews" (i.e. from Jesus, David's descendant).
In Acts: 4:27 - Herod, Pilate and the Gentiles in Jerusalem (not just the Jews) conspired against Jesus. 11:1-18 - In the account of Peter and Cornelius, the Jews are amazed that God is merciful enough to save "even the (unclean) Gentiles." 14:1, 17:10-12 - Paul follows Jesus' model of going to the Jews first, and many Jews accept Jesus as the Messiah.
In the Pauline Epistles: Romans 1:16 - Salvation is "first for the Jew, then for the Gentile". Romans 9:1-5 - Paul (who is Jewish) describes his desire for the Israelites to receive Christ and the honors the Israelites have received, including that Jesus' human ancestry was through them. Romans 11:1-24 - Paul warns the Gentiles against boasting, comparing them to wild olive branches and the Jews to cultivated olive branches. Romans 11:28 - Even those Jews who reject Christ are to be "loved on account of the patriarchs." Romans 15:27 - "For if the Gentiles have shared in the Jews' spiritual blessings, they owe it to the Jews to share with them their material blessings." Galatians 2:7-9 - At least three of the apostles had a specific ministry to the Jews. Galatians 2:11-13 - Rather than an anti-Semitic prejudice, the early church had if anything a pro-Semitic prejudice.
Life begins at conception but that life is not human yet. Animals are also living beings but they don't have human rights, why should a blob of cells be given human rights?
Luke Murphy
A brain dead person is alive you fucking psycho murderer.
>Tacitus, Annals 15.44: But all human efforts, all the lavish gifts of the emperor, and the propitiations of the gods, did not banish the sinister belief that the conflagration was the result of an order. Consequently, to get rid of the report, Nero fastened the guilt and inflicted the most exquisite tortures on a class hated for their abominations, called Christians by the populace. Christus, from whom the name had its origin, suffered the extreme penalty during the reign of Tiberius at the hands of one of our procurators, Pontius Pilatus, and a most mischievous superstition, thus checked for the moment, again broke out not only in Judaea, the first source of the evil, but even in Rome, where all things hideous and shameful from every part of the world find their center and become popular. Accordingly, an arrest was first made of all who pleaded guilty; then, upon their information, an immense multitude was convicted, not so much of the crime of firing the city, as of hatred against mankind.
>Tacitus says they were condemned because of their known odium humani generis, hatred of the human race. His narrative of the Christian persecution follows his description of the traditional religious response to disaster, in which Nero, quite appropriately, tried to propitiate the gods who had punished the Romans with the Great Fire, tried to restore the positive relationship with deity by offering public prayers and ritual banquets to make up for some perceived neglect in pious duty. The real crime committed by the Christians is their sociopathic dereliction of their responsibilities toward the human community. By refusing to participate in public religion, Christians threatened everyone by provoking the rage of the gods. The Christians are guilty of organized misanthropy. Under Nero, Christianity became a crime against the Roman state, punishable, like sedition and treason, by death.
You are honestly retarded. Every single one of your cell has human DNA but they don't have unique human rights. By your logic touching someone is mass murder because: >All cells are living >Cell is comprised of human DNA >It's human life
Benjamin Ward
Myelination doesn't start until week 25, conveniently the cutoff for abortion. The brain is physically not able to feel, or support thought. There is no consciousness. It's not a case of being unconscious or sleeping, there's nothing. To put it in perspective, an Earthworm has myelinated nerves. A being with less neural development than an Earthworm can not support consciousness. The spark of life and awareness that even an Earthworm has doesn't exist in a foetus at that point. I'm of the belief that a 'soul' can only exist in the housing of consciousness, without the brains structural components in place to house consciousness, it's simply not there.
If people disagree on this, I ask you what is a soul if there is no emotion, no thoughts, no sensations, no awareness, no creativity, drives, impulses etc?
Read some scientific journals, life does start at fertilization if you go by the definition of what life is.
Gabriel Taylor
>Every single one of your cell has human DNA but they don't have unique human rights Debatable. Every cell in my body has constitutional rights because every cell in my body composes the whole that is an American citizen. If anything we're just approaching the philosophical distinction of what is actually a full human being. If you say a body has to be sapient and autonomous in order to have rights then any time you go to sleep you have no rights. If you say a body has to be whole in order to have rights then crippled people and anyone that has had invasive surgery has no rights.
This will all eventually boil down to the definition of what is and is not a person, a concept that most human beings are, ironically, woefully unequipped to define.
Adrian Brooks
Life begins at conception. A developing human is still a human.
Justin Evans
What you just said implies that you support abortion at all. You support murdering God's most innocent. You are fucking going to hell. I feel sorry for you but you will get what you deserve. Disgusting.
Samuel Smith
No one argues that a fetus isn't alive. It's obviously living cells. The real question is, "Is the fetus a distinct organism?"
Josiah Murphy
I never said that each cell has individual human rights you retard it's the collection of cells that allow for the human being as a whole to live and that has human rights. If you were to harm enough of the cell so that the entire being would fie then yes it would be murder.
Try making your point with some actual logic instead of pushing a false narrative.
Evan Allen
>Myelination doesn't start until week 25, conveniently the cutoff for abortion. The brain is physically not able to feel, or support thought. There is no consciousness. It's not a case of being unconscious or sleeping, there's nothing. See this is a compelling point. Such a state is nearly identical to brain death. The truth is that "alive" and "dead" are surprisingly malleable these days. In 100 years the distinction will become increasingly blurry.
Connor Lee
>There is no consciousness Source?
Colton Sanchez
>MUH BOOOOOMERS
Justin Edwards
To this day, I still use the tried and true method of the definition of life according to my 9th grade biology textbook Living thingsmust maintain homeostasis. ...
Living thingshave different levels of organization. ...
Living thingsreproduce. ...
Living thingsgrow. ...
Living thingsuse energy. ...
Living thingsrespond to stimuli. ...
Living thingsadapt to their environment
When that egg is fertilized, it's a living thing. The fact that people debate this is honestly appalling.
Benjamin Gonzalez
Listen you obvious shill. The correct angle of attack on here is that abortions cull the nigger population and keep it from exploding beyond belief in the United States. That keeps even people like myself who know abortion is morally wrong from wanting to do away with it because as much as we hate white whores who murder their babies, we hate niggers even more.
Christian Jones
All human life starts as “germs”
Samuel Gray
problem is that your dumb burger eugenics program to wipe out blacks is then adopted by white countries
the worst part is that muslims would never get an abortion but whites will
fuck you mutts
Eli Stewart
Based and Christpilled. Compromise at any point is where you deviate from what Jesus taught.
>late term abortion is murder >First term is fine Heresy. >I'd never sit under a gay minister >Christians can lead a homosexual lifestyle Heresy. >I'd never have sex before marriage >Pornography isn't sex Heresy.
Joshua Thomas
>Every cell in my body has constitutional rights because every cell in my body composes the whole that is an American citizen.
If we go by that definition then as I said touching someone will technically be considered murder because you killed something which has constitutional rights. The newly formed zygote is also just a cell which is technically just part of the body.
>body has to be sapient and autonomous in order to have rights
I know it all depends on the definition of human life which is difficult to define. IMO a functioning brain can feel sensations like pain should be considered a Human but then again it depends on how we define it.
Christopher Richardson
Meaning, it's alive and independent of the host? Thanks for the slam dunk retard. Keep posting.
Ian Gray
Is that true that this guy has got cancer?
Aaron Green
Look at this. You are bending over backwards trying to scientifically justify child sacrifice. You know that it's a human life, you're just grasping at straws to deny it.
Julian Flores
Crowder is a neo-cuckservative, and is trying to position himself as the epicenter of modern conservatism. Obviously he didn't do his homework, because /we/ are now the center.
The Overton window has moved Crowder, and your 'new' brand has been left behind long ago... maybe if you spaz out some more and talk faster, someone might like you.
That 'life' equivalent at this point is essentially the same as that of an insect.
If you stop there, you had better stop stepping on bugs as well!
Angel Perez
>distinct organism Leaf, it's a human child. You're petitioning his or her excecution. Let me ask you, when were you conceived? Was it when you were born, or when you became a zygote in your mother's womb? Obviously it's the latter.
Luke Bailey
>If we go by that definition then as I said touching someone will technically be considered murder because you killed something which has constitutional rights. Hmm, maybe, but the operative principle is the collection of cells that constitute a person. Individual cells are in a constant state of death and shedding. Think of it like a Cold War spy situation: Two nations can interact and their interactions can lead to deaths on either side but neither is technically committing an act of war. >The newly formed zygote is also just a cell which is technically just part of the body. The newly formed zygote is the ONLY cell and part of the body during that tiny period of time before it begins dividing. After that point it becomes a sovereign collective. >I know it all depends on the definition of human life which is difficult to define. I didn't mean to imply that you didn't know. I just brought it up because the final form of this discussion is something that only a small portion of the population can actively disassemble and discuss. We can debate philosophy all day but the average layman is the one that ends up judging the final product. Perks of democracy: People are retarded.
Jacob Nguyen
Abortion doesn't have anything to do with reducing fertility rates. You're just enabling family dissolution thinking you have a defacto eugenics program.
Nicholas Walker
he's right though and I'm not a Christian
baby starts growing at conception. baby 10 minutes after that moment is logically indistinguishable from baby 10 years after that.
Nathan Green
I'm going to be a father. Not too long ago, I accompanied my wife to her first big eco. She was 2 months and 3 weaks then aprox. It was small, 6-7 cm. But man, it's already a full human by then, everything is there in it's basic form. And he moved so much in there, it was already kicking and moving a lot in general. No fucking way life starts randomly at 3 months, no fucking way. It got me really happy and sad at the same time, because the reality of abortion clinics as a means to legalize ritual sacrifice hit me like a truck. Fuck you, and fuck everyone of who in favor of this horror.