Freemasonry - Are They ZOG or Not?

What does this have to do with anything?

Freemasons gangstalk/Stasi the bad goys worldwide. It's pretty well known in non-normie circles...

I heard the Reborn recruit only Freemasons. Have you heard anything about that?

TPBP
the iniciates dont know the truth, to create plausible deniability.

I'm not part of any religion, secret society, political movement or anything similar since forever. Sorry. I just got ganstalked and tried to stop it somehow, the best I could do is wait until they got lighter on me and try to figure out what was happening.

You should look into surveillance detection routes, dry cleaning, and other glow nigger tradecraft. You can find instructions online and it is how to confirm if people are following you and how to lose them.

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>glow nigger tradecraft
google translate:
US Army / CIA Manuals.

Paladin Press books and other shit on archive.org are actually better. They have the same info as classified shit, but they are easier to find.

>archive.org
this is what i am talking anout, good material on survivalism, and lots of DIY stuff
>Paladin Press books
I didnt knew that, will check user, thanks.

Some are fine, some are committing crimes against humanity.

you tell me goy

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This doesn't even work given the way masonry is governed is entirely in jurisdictions

I know there are lodges in Isreal. There are lodges all around the world. That's not proof of anything.

w2.vatican.va/content/leo-xiii/en/encyclicals/documents/hf_l-xiii_enc_18840420_humanum-genus.html

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Memoirs_Illustrating_the_History_of_Jacobinism

All the first rituals are based around the builders of the temple of Solomon... How are you guys so retarded

What does that have to do with anything? The question is are they ZOG or not.

>based around
*framed by

Is that Aushiram?

>That's not proof of anything.
No, it is just theoretical coincidences...

This is a bigger coincidence.

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I have never been affiliated with the Masons but I study some of the same material and know of its value.
I view them from the following lens in terms of good and evil.
>Masons supposedly possess ancient knowledge of the golden ratio and perfect geometries, holy numbers and shapes amongst other arcane secrets.
Do you see Masons going into to schools to share this beautiful knowledge, with the children ? Making it available from a young age to those who could carry it into the future ?
Or do you see them concealing whatever it is they know from all those who have not sworn allegiance ?
I do not see them trusted with our younglings, I do not see them eagerly seeking to share, to educate.
I would be keen to know more, but I will not give allegiance, for such knowledge is not a possession to be traded, and the demands and rituals of the Masons seem to be not only mercantile but also contain much dark practice and imagery from what I have seen.
Change my mind ?

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Does any of that have any practical value though?

It could enable anti-gravitas one day.

yah, stop using the word Masons, the contemporary version are FREEmasons which is the perverted version from the original concept created in ancient Egypt

Yes undoubtedly. Synchronistic geometry forms the basis of all known calendars, time-keeping, navigation, human biorhythms, astronomy, musical scales etc etc. None of the systems we use cannot but be traced back to "spiritual" systems developed many thousands of years ago by "magicians". Anciently it was used to create monuments of such architectural perfection we still cannot replicate them today. Recently the realm of occult mathematics is beginning to blur with cutting edge quantum physics. It is my opinion that it is probably the MOST valuable and applicable knowledge available.

If the Masons are masters of such things, as reputed, why do they hold it so close and leave so many labouring in ignorance ? If they are "good". And if they possess it in full measure why do we not see greater works from them, and have them holder a higher, more honoured role in society ?

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From what I could find on Masons they have secrets and they have "secrets". There are the secrets they aren't allowed to tell you (code words, handshakes, gestures). Then there are the "secrets" that are the mystical elements of the craft. Interestingly enough this second kind of secret is usually unknown to most Freemasons themselves.

Freemasonry tells a story by an allegory of stone masons. That allegory is itself an allegory too. The masonic rituals are coded older Middle Eastern rituals. These rituals had elements of Egyptian mythology, Sufism, and Christian Gnosticism. All of these systems used alchemy to describe the transmutation of man from the physical to the spiritual.

The Knights Templar became familiar with alchemy in the Middle East and commissioned cathedrals in Europe covered in alchemical symbols. At which point masons learned the alchemical practices. For a multitude of reasons the Knights Templar and alchemists were banned and their practices suppressed. Except among masons.

Most Freemasons are content with the mason allegory without having to delve into alchemical rituals. Furthermore this reopens Christian fundamentalist critiques that Freemasonry is a resurrection of Gnosticism or Paganism. This combined with a desire to minimize wewuzing is why this knowledge is largely suppressed within Freemasonry itself.

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Egypt was but a successor and inheritor of the kenning of older artisans. Why do you wish me to address these Masons as free ? Were they at one time bound ?

I may study this knowledge but I have deliberately avoided receiving my education from any one particular source, or affiliating myself with any order. Thus I know little of the modern Masons although I have been invited previously by a goldsmith of my acquaintance.

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Freemasons are all about ritual sodomy at the higher levels. Stop shilling for it. It's not going to work.

Exactly, this. Have a Bravo.

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They are Satanic but not exactly Jewish. Both Jews and masons are Satanic.

>5000 year old secrets are "new"
>thinking a groupheard mens club has secrets worth knowing

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Yes I am aware of a rough history of the masons and their predecessors during the crusades and medieval and renaissance eras. I am aware that they seem to be an offshoot of the ancient mystery schools such the white brotherhood of Tuthmosis. My reluctance to be affiliated with them is based exactly on the secrecy and ritual they demand, such withholding of knowledge is antithetical to all that this "way" represents. Humanity went through much to ensure there were no more masters, and that truth become a thing shared, the Mason does not seem to align with this goal. Planetary improvement would undoubtedly gained by disseminating this data to as many as possible both as it is an unfinished work needing of many minds and can be used "in my experience" as a way to allow even non-mathematically inclined people to have a deeper understanding of truth. Why is this not desirable to the Mason ?

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>They are Satanic
source?

YES very big, and VERY theoretical...kek

The threads always devolve into this esoteric stuff. I'm more interested whether they serve the ZOG in a practical sense.

Babylonian Talmudism
And by Jews I mean the race of Jews, not necessarily those who follow Judaism.

DESTROY CERN

>5000 year old secrets are "new"
Yes, to those who have not been told of it, had it shared with them, to children and the uneducated, it can be a brand new breath of fresh air as good as the day it was first conceived much longer ago than a mere 5k years ago.
Indeed that is what I have heard, I have been progressing quite nicely on my path without having my anus penetrated so far, and I would wish to avoid it if not a prerequisite for enlightenment.
Thx. I will make good use of that to balance all my fuckups with something positive. :)

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I think the biggest issue for Masons is that these practices have been suppressed from time to time. Secrecy meant safety in an era when Heliocentric astronomy meant a death sentence. Anons today who doubt mainstream history know the value of secrecy in the search of the truth.

You will not understand what occurs now if you do not understand its roots. You must remember, that many of your "enemies" do not work on day to day human concepts as you do, they do not care for money, for fame, for sex other than as tools to very occult ends. They work on a spiritual level and base their decisions entirely on those esoteric concepts you steer away from.
"ZOG" does not want to rule just for mere human desires, they wish to build a temple in a holy place and incarnate their anti-god. They truly believe this and will kill to achieve it, they have done so many times. They are very practical but to unknowable ends. Look deeper.

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And yet in the interludes between persecution, do we see them desperately seizing the moment to share while they have the chance ? Those days of persecution are long gone and their persecutors suffer their own ridicule now. Perhaps they were correct to be persecuted for if there are perfect shapes, there are also decidedly imperfect shapes. Which do they study ? What keeps them clinging to the shadows ?

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No.

>Heliocentric astronomy meant a death sentence.
That was never a death sentence. You just had to be able to prove what you asserted.

You imply they work with the Zionist Jews. What's your proof?

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I know you won't believe me

gay

witches and wizards who worship the false light and humanity

I don't, I stated a rough approximation of what many religious groups believe and that they operate on concerns that have little to do with anything your garden variety person would desire or understand unless he had been initiated into such a cult. For example, the Muslim does not kill for food, for sex, for money, he kills to convert humans into worship of his particular choice of daemon, he dies sometimes purposefully to reach an imagined paradise. All religions operate on similar frameworks.

I do not know exactly what the Mason studies or believes in because I am not willing to initiate myself into something I cannot control and that opens itself only upon submission to it. The Masons demand oaths to sacrifice of life and limb upon betrayal, and it is rumoured more perverted offerings are required. As I stated, I like my anus unpenetrated and my relatives unraped, my tongue NOT cut from my neck and buried in sand ipon a lee shore.

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Yeah, I don't know either. I don't know if all that 3rd temple stuff is real or if they just scapegoat (no pun intended) masons to take the heat off Jews.

It's mostly a bunch of old dudes helping each other get ahead and network. I dunno man, name me any club or society that doesn't.

>posting in a data mining thread
youtu.be/jrJW5A7ruLM

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What does the picture prove? There are lodges all around the world. Yeah, Trump is straight a Talmudic Jew.

Freemasonry is run by the big Jewish banks, learn history.

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Source?
George Washington was a pretty ok guy in my book.

Paranoia is a terrible thing.
Simplistic in the extreme.
There is indication the order was far different in his day and has since followed the same path of usurpation seen in the more open forms of US governance. See ...

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Yeah, some say Adam Weishaupt in Germany corrupted it. But I don't think he was even a Jew. And he didn't care for the catholic church either. Confusing.

He encouraged Jews to settle in the US and looked Jewish as fuck. Freemasonry stems from the Knights Templar who were international bankers and a multinational corporation.

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But the constitution tho. All of which has been nullified. Only congress shall mint currency. Only gold/silver is currency. Congress must declare war. Armies can only be funded for 2 years at a time when war declared and should be disbanded in times of peace. Freedom of speech, right to bear arms.... etc. etc.

None of that's being followed. Not to mention all government officials are guilty of treason article 3 section 3

I like the Constitution obviously but they were creating a world where anyone could be a noble which benefitted merchant jews who didn't marry into the aristocracies.

Admittedly, Freemasonry does seem to have had been infiltrated and changed over the course of history, but the US and French revolution have a lot in common, and these sort of stem from Rosicrucian ideals and whatnot (even Bacon's The New Atlantis). I'm glad that America has its Constitution so I'm not going to try to argue against its value, but... I have reason to be suspect and that goes for most any historical figure.

stichtingargus.nl/vrijmetselarij/aasr_r15us.html

Wouldn't say "synagogue of satan" but if your rites constitute of enacting scenes from kaballah / torah yes it is jewish. Many of the references are jewish.

The best way to find it out is of course to read the rituals the site I linked contain a lot of them and if you want more clarity surrounding the topic I suggest reading them first before diving in the conspiracy theories.

Don't they swear on Hiram Abiff who designed the Temple of Solomon? Jewish.

I think it's safe to say either
1.
>Freemasonry serves the Jew
2.
>Freemasonry doesn't serve the Jew but got neutered and has no power anymore

Yes it's because in multiple locations people who own oil fields have ties to freemasonry and use it actively to network. Many elite families now have land that's basically worth nothing due to the socialists problem there. It's not a coincidence in this case the conspiracy is true, even though I know the evidence is thin it's one thing that is true. As for why the f. intervention into Venezuela is taking so long no clue at all it seems they're playing the long game first.

No, it's secrecy to avoid the ''WE WUZ'' shit, most of the rites can be read by yourself. It's more like a society with secrets than a full secret society. Of course the most interesting secrets are the networking that takes place since usually it are people of prominence involved in it.

The builders of the Temple of Solomon in the Bible were jebusites, were decended from the nepheliim. If you look at the Quran or the greater seals of Solomoe. Or the lesser seals of Solomon you will see that Solomon used evil spirits to build the temple. Everything points to Mason's being either or evil spirits are descended from fallen or the greater seals of Solomon the lesser seals of Solomon you will see that Solomon used evil spirits to build the temple. Everything points to Mason's being either or evil spirits are descended from fallen angels.

The even tell you what they are and normies like you don't believe them.

Yes, and the tiles are basically done in the style to honor Solomon as well (you know a masonic temple always have the full black and white checkboard tileset present). It is Jewish and mason shills you sometimes see in this thread flip out whenever you show them their own rites which clearly reveal that it took a lot of inspiritation from judaism.

The Temple of Solomon was funded by the Phoenicians. They started the first global trade empire and colonized much of coastal Europe and are the true power that hides behind the Jews

He wasn't Jewish. Hiram Abiff was from Tyre, and thus a Phoenician. And no one swears on him.

> if your rites constitute of enacting scenes from kaballah / torah yes it is jewish
The A&AR draws from a tonne of sources. It's primarily Christian, though.

Why won't you answer whether you serve the ZOG?

Not answering means you do serve Jewish interests

LOL oh god... look how I was immediately attacked. I just refreshed this thread. Hahaha! they're so gay with their generic snark. It's always the same. This faggy 'tude. *shivers*... I'm convinced the devil is a literal homo.

Anyways, Freemasonry is Kabbalah for the gentile goys.

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Just more petty division over allegory. No Gods, no Daemons, no more Masters, only knowledge or ignorance. We worked long and hard to be free of such mental constraints. The Masons have knowledge, the Jews have mathematical rhythmic knowledge, both hold it close to their chests and do not share. They labour under a delusion the last weak scion of which we nailed to a cross and bled out two thousand years ago. Enough of this childish shite, your ancient fathers flew our cities like migrating birds long ago. When the stones of the last church, fall on the head of the last priest we will be free of this curse and perhaps ready to meet our old friends again in long-awaited maturity. Nothing is true, everything is permitted. The seven days of our incubation are not yet over, we see ourselves as too complete, but we are spoiled children squabbling over our inheritance. Soon the old machines will hum warmly again, and many will smite themselves in misery and rid us of thier gullibility.
The Jew
The Mason
The Christian
The Hindu
The Muslim
The Bahai
The Satanist
The Sikh
All faces of the same tarnished loaded dice. Genetic dead-ends.

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They are the whore of the AntiChrist(s)

Niggers on a hilltop, with an aeroplane made of grass, waiting for the white man to come back and take them to heaven, all of you. Die already, the world is groaning at the seams with your stinking herd.

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Without judaism, Christianity would not exist either. Many things from Christianity can be cross referenced. Though I would not recommend Christianity for any deeper esoteric purposes as the texts have been altered so much for milleniums that it's hard to get them to the original intents behind them. That and how it's used as a tool for people to lock up and close off their minds to the spiritual. I personally recommend to just read the books yourself and give the finger to freemasons I've only had horrid experiences dealing with the bunch.

It's more like
> Who owned America?
Freemasons since much of the merchantile elite that was present at the time were either founders of the grand orient or had relations with those people. So it was always a kind of cluster of wealth and power concentrated at the top that violently exploited the rest of the people.

You're a homosexual. Jesus is going to kill you.

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Yeah well the French Revolution was funded by London Freemason. This is why you helped the Ottoman Empire in the Crimean War. So don't act like you're immune to the cancer.

Truly believing that some imagined deity cares what you do with your anus, such ridiculous holiness born of a sick fixation. Tis not my faith that burned women, and whose clergy has the Guinness world record for childfucking. You fools have had nothing new to say for two thousand years. What a burden you are to humanity.

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Easy, I don't.

Nah.

>Without judaism, Christianity would not exist either.
Arguable. The revelation of God is hardly predicated on any one previous religion. If it weren't the Hebrews, it might have been the Tyrians, or the Parsi, or Brythons.
>Many things from Christianity can be cross referenced
Sure. But many are self evident too.

How do you explain

LMAO

They’re Kabbalist, so yes.

Most of the free masons I have met are literally the most boring people ever. Its like a exclusive club for nepotism in the job market. And all they talk about is that they are freemasons. I worked in IT last year and there was this one morbidly obese technician and all he did was talk about being a free mason and kept showing pictures of his fellow masons in their sissy aprons. Its like most insufferable cunt with unwarranted self importance making you sit through their holiday photos in a slide show.

He probably out in 5-6 years because (((good behaviour)))

It's pretty easy to become a member. Breivik was expelled, though. For obvious reasons.

Jesus is a metaphor you idiot. Jesus comes back all the time to handle business. The last time he was around he gassed 6 million heebs. Some things don't need to be reinvented just to entertain your cunt narcissism.

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So your answer is basically:
>Pure coincidence goyim

masons are the Nr. 1 enemy of the white people worldwide ; your duty is to hunt them down

What about this crisis nigger

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Every freemason looks like that. Art bell was a mason. Same look.

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Nah, but outgoing people join lots of things. Especially high profile things.

Americans are a tacky people. They put branding on everything and wear it boldly to make up for their death of taste.

Orange Order is an entirely separate group. Fortunately we don't all believe that ahistorical bullshit.

Freemasons are an Ottoman Turk + Jewish invention to subvert the old Kings of Europe. They heavily recruited disaffected homosexuals inside European lands. Homos are notorious traitors easily bought with prestigious titles and coin.

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