Say your engaged to a white qt virgin. Meek and delicate, like the kind of shy that makes you want to mark the skin. If I pressure her into it am I a nigger or if it’s going to happen after the wedding it shouldn’t matter?
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dont pressure her into it, but she should probably eventually do it with you before marriage if you guys are together. just dont worry about it dude. if she doesnt want to until marriage then thats a good thing because she'll probably be faithful
>virginity
About two woman I've been with tell me she's a virgin. But when it's already time to fuck her, she's the one who initiated and does cowgirl like a pro. virgin my ass
She doesn’t want to until marriage, which sounded epic until I had to sleep next to her every night.
Fuckin KEK.
Do whatever you want, but remember: Once you hvae sex with her, you are married to her. It's that simple.
Virginity is kind of a meme, the best you're going to get is an 18 year old who sucked some cock and gave some hand jobs in highschool and god help you if you wait more than a month after she turned 18. There are no real virgin adult females, I'm not personally salty about it but god damn there is a lot of delusion here some time, hell the older teenagers made us fuck when we were like 12.
That picture makes me fucking uncomfortable.
No she is 25 years old and insanely shy, like won’t look a man in the eyes type thing unless she knows them. She’s not done any of that, we’ve been dating 1 year/ engaged now and wont do any of that until after marriage.
You‘re aware that porn exists, right?
Virginity maters only in that no man should marry a woman who has carried the seed of another man. Your wife and your children will never be your own if you marry a spoiled woman.
It is your job as a man to spread your seed and to claim your property.
So no, as a man you do not have to wait until marriage at all. Women on the other hand should not allow, or be allowed to spoil themselves before they find a man to marry.
Just imagine a threesome with pic related.
>Does Virginity Matter?
apperently being a virgin makes you more likely to hold extreme right wing views, so yes
virginity is important and you should marry the girl you sleep with
You shouldn't be sleeping next to her if you cannot fuck her. You are cucking yourself by denying your most basic instinct. You either demand it, or you stay separate until marriage. That or she had better provide you with some hand/oral relief. Ding what you are doing in unnatural.
Also if she is like this now it doesn't bode will for a sexual gratifying marriage man. Getting used to lying next to her horny is a bad precedent to set.
>the gay thinks his opinion matters
Why tf do you sleep next to her? Either marry her or not but don‘t do this degnerate „dating“ shit.
it sucks but whatever, just hurry up and get married. she ain't gettin' any younger
We’re engaged, it’d be fucking weird to sleep in separate beds plus she’s comfy to cuddle.
I agree that’s a bad precedent to set but also oral is out of the question, only handies. I sound like a fucking cuck and I hate it but she’s 20/10 face, body, knows how to cook and is going to throw in her job as an Accountant when we get married. So there’s a massive plus at the end.
I took my gf's virginity.
Not after marriage, since I don't believe in marriage.
As long as she's fine with it, there's no reason not to, unless you're strictly religious or something.
Don't pressure her. She will later talk to girls that remained virgin until the wedding night and she will feel dirty. She will blame you and resent you. Degree will vary from girl to girl, but to have the strongest foundation possible for your future marriage is your goal.
If you will wait and state why, she will be proud of you and you will remind her of the heroes and honorable princes she read about in her childhood and she can brag about it to other girls. Girls repay this kind of loyalty with being loyal themselves.
If she is devout Christian and virgin due to that, then virginity before marriage is a big thing. Very important for her. For them a strong man wait, and a weak, pity man can't wait.
So, what exactly are you waiting for if you‘re engaged? Do you have a wedding date?
Holy shit I want to marry that virgin black girl on the left
>until I had to sleep next to her every night
That's not good. She will resent you for not desiring her so much that you are not overcome with desire. She is a woman, so in that situation she will resent you for not taking her virginity and resent you for taking her virginity. Female brain is not logical. She will resent you the most for taking her virginity, but will feel insecure and question your manhood for being able to be naked and close to her in bed for so long. The old traditional way is the best. No cohabitation before marriage. A time tested system for thousands of years.
You’re a nigger.
Thank you, this was the most helpful information here. And yes she is devout, her friends waited until marriage bar one but their still together. I didn’t really think women did this anymore but now I’ve met her friends and there seems to be a lot of them their just really shy and demure so easily missed.
>does virginity matter
there is nothing more cucked than worrying obsessively about other dicks your girl has had in the past
Yes in 4 months time.
Don’t nigfer up you blood line, the fuck? She belonging with “don’t treat me like I’m a baby” nigger in the beginning.
I should’ve bought a comfy guest bed then.
True, when you are in the right circles there are many virgins and that is the norm.
Good luck and God Bless you, user :)
losing your virginity with a pure christian virginal black girl is very romantic.
I'd do it more than once if I could.
JUST FUCKING LOL if you marry a non virgin.
Tiny is adorable but she is dressed like whore she should be in a school girl uniform and pigtails till sh is 30
I date nerdy ladies who are about like that sexy like Adrian in the first Rocky
just put up with the 4 months. that's nothing
>there is nothing more cucked than worrying obsessively about other dicks your girl has had in the past
Simplistic and not very bright. Read:
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Just wait the couple of months
Fuck I changed my DNS for this
Because I think only cucks get married?
Take the risk at your own peril.
>Does Virginity Matter?
No. Competency does. If you're not good at pulling your weight then no one will care how much tail you pull in.
just do anal for now, if as some comments said she is black dress her like a colonial maid and sneak up on her when scrubbing the floor
"Ahh lawdy massa be plowun muh cornhole again"
whatever makes you feel better buddy...
stop worrying about being the only dick your girl has ever had and just focus on being the best dick she's ever had.
If you obsess over finding a virgin you're mating pool declines to a marginal fraction of the population. Sure I can agree that it's better for your girl to not have had miles of cock run through her and you should avoid thots like the plague but at the end of the day you're a beta and an insecure cuck if virginity is that important to you
you're playing the long game, it'll be worth it.
>Does Virginity Matter?
Yes, it does matter. Only (man-)whoress would disagree, because this truth hurts their feelings and they can't make they whoring undone.
also this: >Once you hvae sex with her, you are married to her. It's that simple.
OP, don't be a nigger and wait until you are sure that you want to be with her and she wants to be with her. If you are both commited to each other, then sex is fine, no matter if you are officially married at that point or not, since you will be married in heart and soul after your first sexual encounter.
>Mark 10
>7 For this reason a man will leave his father and mother and be united to his wife,
>8 and the two will become one flesh.’ So they are no longer two, but one flesh.
>9 Therefore what God has joined together, let man not separate.”
It matters when you're a young and picky guy.
It doesn't when you're older and you are desperate to have a family.
>do anal for now
sodomites will burn in hell
actually you are the cuck, if you commit to a relation with a thot, who had plenty of dicks cumming in her vagina before you did so. At this point she will be emotionally wasted and also by giving such whores a chance, you are enabling this whorish behaviour, since they dont feel any repercussions
It's not a meme. It's very important. There's a reason multiple cultures all across the world view female chastity as a virtue. Look at the drastic drop in the ability to maintain a marriage as the number of partners increases. They are built to have 1 man. That man takes over the role of father for her. She breaks down the more men come in and out of her life.
I married a virgin, found out when we tried to have sex she has vaginismus, means penetration is too painful even with my pinky.. I don't know how long I can wait.. I don't know what to do
>If I pressure her into it am I a nigger
Absolutely. I hope you die if you do.
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>No she is 25 years old and insanely shy, like won’t look a man in the eyes type thing unless she knows them. She’s not done any of that, we’ve been dating 1 year/ engaged now and wont do any of that until after marriage.
If you're trying to be serious I have some bad news for you bud, she's tasted dick. Also most women who want to marry first now days are usually those who regret their first sexual experience because they got pumped and dumped and are now searching for a provider. I don't say this to be salty but some guys are just really fucking naive and the sooner you get over that the better.
I honestly just want to have lefty pump out glorious giant aryan babies for me.
>It's not a meme. It's very important
It is though, most girls get some sort of sexual interaction way before even 15. Human society is built upon women being whores more or less. I'm not against chastity or anything of the sort but don't fool yourself in thinking a girl is a virgin because she says she is.
obviously she needs to learn to say
"But mister I poop from there"
Sex is such a meme.
All women over 12 are whores. And if you marry her she will ride the first new cock she finds. She might even believe she can get away with it.
I've never been more jealous of a person in the internet in my entire life.
>At this point she will be emotionally wasted and also by giving such whores a chance, you are enabling this whorish behaviour, since they dont feel any repercussions
You're a teenager at best, believe it or not but most people lose their virginity before 15. It's a sad reality that seems hard for people to face but it is reality.
>falling for the abstinence before marriage meme
Some has already nailed that cunt. Could've been a cousin or a brother. But she has been fucked before. She's making sure you put a ring on her before you can find out her past.
On your wedding night, when you find out she isn't really a virgin, she will give you a sob story about how she was raped. But as infuriated as you get, she won't say who. That will be her excuse for her lack of a hymen.
Fatass
Best thing to do is sample the goods before you by them. If she is still a virgin then you will have been the one who deflowered her. If she isn't a virgin, then it is up to you to decide if you really still want to marry a lying whore.
Never buy a car until you test drive it. She may be asexual, that's why she wants to "wait until marriage".
If someone is a teenager, then you. Stop watching porn and dwelling too long in the internet. I know plenty of women, who are still virgins, because they don't fuck at the first opportunity they get. And those women, who had plenty of dick, are emotionally damaged and unstable because of whoring around.
>Never buy a car until you test drive it
kys
hell nah
get dat pussy
hit it fast and hard bro
fuck her deep
make her scream
cum in dat pussy every chance ya get
>I know plenty of women, who are still virgins, because they don't fuck at the first opportunity they get
That's where you're wrong and proving my point. If you aren't a teenager you are very naive and I feel bad for you because the world will crush you. You're going to have a hard go of it and I just pray you don't end up as a wizard, my young friend.
>virginity is a meme
If you're a muslim it isn't, as plenty of well kept hijabi qts are reserved for marriage due in part to religious persecution.
You don't have to pressure her. You can just ASK her. And then you decide if you still want to be with her after.
>Banging a cum stain
>Hard
There's also aids if that isn't disgusting enough for you.
>It is your job as a man to spread your seed and to claim your property.
>So no, as a man you do not have to wait until marriage at all. Women on the other hand should not allow, or be allowed to spoil themselves before they find a man to marry.
This sounds like double standards.
This, tbqh
>reee all wymens are sluts reee
How do you know? Because the 2 woman you know had multiple sex partners and you constantly feed your hate towards women by reading articles and watching pictures/videos about exceptional whores on Jow Forums? Get some life experience, because not all women are like that, there are still enough virgins, even aged 25+.
>inb4 all women around me are sluts
If it's true, not you should cleary think about yourself. Maybe there is a problem with you, that you surround yourself with such low-tier women and people in general.
it's a lot better if you wait till marriage (statistically too - you would be blown away how much of a difference it makes). But I guess it's not that easy to have such a thing these days
>sleep next to her every night.
that's just stupid. You will fuck up. Besides, show some character to her. If she feels she can hold her v-card above your head, she won't respect you. Show her you want to wait as much as she wants to wait. Unless you don't want to wait. Then just move on bruh
>We’re engaged
lmao, can't you wait few months? if you're engaged I don't see an issue.
>How do you know? Because the 2 woman you know had multiple sex partners and you constantly feed your hate towards women by reading articles and watching pictures/videos about exceptional whores on Jow Forums? Get some life experience, because not all women are like that, there are still enough virgins, even aged 25+.
You're projecting a lot. Like I said we were all forced to fuck at about 12 and that is normal for humans, if you think otherwise you're in your late teens maybe very early twenties.
>Get some life experience
Boy I've had 4 careers and been through every socioeconomic bracket there is.
>because not all women are like that, there are still enough virgins
kek, no
>even aged 25+.
Oh boy, you're in for a REAL rough time.
>If it's true, not you should cleary think about yourself. Maybe there is a problem with you, that you surround yourself with such low-tier women and people in general.
I never said all women are sluts, I said there's a reality and once again humans tend to be sexual. You better get over yourself real fast or you're going to be extremely disappointed if you're lucky enough to find anyone at all.
don't listen to anal faggets. You don't ruin your property by jailbraking into backdoor. The risk of health complication is too high to risk it
Double standards because women and men arent the same. It's only natural
>all forced to fuck at about 12
>normal for humans
Not everyone is a degenerate like yourself. However, the majority, I give you that.
As I said, if you surround yourself with low-tier people, of course you will find that "all" women are complete sluts. But that doesn't mean, that it's impossible to find enough virgins to choose from.
If you were to search for penguins, would you search on the north pole?
>Not everyone is a degenerate like yourself. However, the majority, I give you that.
You're showing your youth more and more, people have always done this up until your generation when children weren't even allowed outside.
>As I said, if you surround yourself with low-tier people, of course you will find that "all" women are complete sluts. But that doesn't mean, that it's impossible to find enough virgins to choose from.
I'm from an upper class family and myself have been at the bottom and higher levels of society, this isn't an argument of "low tier people" it's simply reality. Also you calling girls sluts left and right makes it kind of obvious you're in over your head.
>If you were to search for penguins, would you search on the north pole?
Only a kike would say something so dumb.
Regardless of our current predicament, it is true that it matters. It sucks that it's hard to find one, but if you do, give her tons of love and she will be a faithful woman.
No.
that's what muslim men believe because they are low IQ. If this is true why do you have so many hymen restauration clinics?
>Regardless of our current predicament, it is true that it matters. It sucks that it's hard to find one, but if you do, give her tons of love and she will be a faithful woman.
The studies we've seen have been based on what people claim rather than reality. Still, I won't argue that the few sexual partners the better as I haven't in my life experience seen anything to indicate otherwise. I will say though that this is why I have to talk some shit because there are circumstances where a 26 year old who's been knocked up twice might not be that bad of an option if only temporary, just make sure she has a good family and is needy.
The kraut is right you are getting btfo just admit it fag.
>I'm from an upper class family and myself have been at the bottom and higher levels of society
>higher levels of society
When I say low-tier-humans, then I am not talking about wealth and prestige, you know? Rather I am talking about morals, values, responsibilites etc. Or do you think rich people, who are considered high class, will be surrounded by virgins? No, they too surround themselfes with golddiggers and prostitutes. Money =/= Morals.
>The kraut is right you are getting btfo just admit it fag.
That's not an argument.
You don't think most upper middle class people aren't on the higher end of morals, values, and responsibility do you? They are, once again you're talking to someone who has walked every sect of life there is and your references don't even make sense in the context. Be as pious and naive as you want but don't get mad when your life doesn't end up perfect my young friend.
virginity is a literal meme
t. paji, I say this because everybody in India, well not everybody, but society thinks girls are virgin before marriage, but there’s a ton of vagina lightening and restoration creams available. And there are girls that have sucked my dick celebrating their 3rd anniversary
I'd be happy with a grill that has had less than 5 or max. 10 sexual partners before me but even that is a rarity these days.
>be woman
>start being sexually active at around 16
>fuck random guys at the club every weekend
>use online dating
>have a fuckcount of at least 50 by the age of 25
Hope Reddit can answer this question for you while you're banned.
>You don't think most upper middle class people aren't on the higher end of morals, values, and responsibility do you?
Most upper and middle class are retards, just like most lower class people. The only difference is, that middle and upper class have a better bearing in terms of appearance and manner and a higher developed level of hypocrisy - they just pretend to be better due to money, that's it. But when it comes to real values such as empathy, wisdom, responsibility, sincerity, just to name a few, then they aren't much different from most people.
>Most upper and middle class are retards, just like most lower class people. The only difference is, that middle and upper class have a better bearing in terms of appearance and manner and a higher developed level of hypocrisy - they just pretend to be better due to money, that's it. But when it comes to real values such as empathy, wisdom, responsibility, sincerity, just to name a few, then they aren't much different from most people.
I honestly wanted to give you some real life advice but whatever, enjoy your childlike wonderment but don't get mad when you find out you have no idea what you're talking about.
>give you some real life advice
What was your advice?
That virgins don't exists, because all women are whores?
Or that the upper class is superior to everyone else when it comes to human values?
Dude, please ...
You didn't pay attention to a thing I said if that's what you took from my posts. Enjoy being 16 and forget about the fact that you lost your childhood. The fact that you are calling women whores left and right may point to you just being some robot incel though which I really pray isn't the case.
But you were the one doing that...? You seem confused. Better go back to your 120% virtuous rich people so you can discuss less confusing topics
>Virgin
There are no virgins above the age of 13 anymore user she's lying to you
>But you were the one doing that...? You seem confused ()
This. I have nothing to add to that.
>But as infuriated as you get, she won't say who
are you guys really so entitled that you would berate a rape victim like this?
germanbro, i have no bad intentions towards you but it's obvious you're coping pretty hard here. go outside for a reality check. we live in times where women can have sexual encounters with zero effort and no social consequences and most of them make use of it. even wallflowers are riding the cock carroussel while maintaining their facade, since it's easy for them to do it in hiding.
I would want to know if I'm getting damaged goods before I got married. Because after its all legal you can be fucked over financially.
That type of information should come out long before engagement. Lying and saying you are a virgin waiting until marriage is deception. Then later claiming you aren't a virgin because you were raped only adds to the deceit.
>Does it matter?
Well I'm no biologist but...Microchimerism
I'll read up on genes more someday and also check out if its true that a rh-negative female will recognize rh-positive partners fetus as foreign material and try to kill it. as if it was a virus Isn't breeding that what they usually use to define species as? Eh, dunno. I should refrain from posting till I have better answers, sorry frens
I'm such a cherry that i dont even know what that means.. SOmeone once said that learning to have sex is like learning to drive and i just dont get that.. ive had sex before and good sex and it wasnt like learning anything i just fuckin did it.. Sure there is some learning involved but its simple.. most of the shit i learned was about my head and my position in the world and my relationship to the girl...
Not really sure what the fuck these people are talking about.. seems like just more bullshit from the bullshit factory.. Every fucking thing these people say is non-sense.. absurd.. it makes no sense. It may be true for them but only if you are like them.
The only pure honest virgins beyond age 15 are hideous monsters.
>Edited my sentence but forgot to check if it still made sense.
Sorry bout that guys, just ignore it. I'mma go back to lurking for a few more weeks to cool off.
Wife being a virgin doesn’t guarantee anything it just increases likelihood of your marriage being successful.
You also share a special bond.