The American Empire

every great empire through history eventually collapsed what u think will be the downfall of the american empire

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When the 2nd civil war happens the USA we know will fall but a better, true USA will rise from its ashes

Trump's election proves that it's already happened....the body is still warm and slowly dieing

When our people were dumb enough to elect a homosexual Muslim nigger and his shemale i knew this country must die.

stfu stupid cuck

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if any homosexual ever claimed to be a Muslim just call us we will take care of him

>what u think will be the downfall of the american empire

It's already happening, like most great empires it's a slow slide until it isn't
No 1 cause, like Rome, I'll do my best to list them

Military spread to thin, hiring mercenaries to cover
The government is too large, ineffective, and corrupt
The original population is dying off and we are letting in foreign populations
We are diluting the currency
The only thing keeping the masses from revolting is high fructose corn syrup, bud lite, and sportsball (used to be called bread and circus)
Internal divisions are great and growing
Segments of the population are losing their fucking minds (we don't even have the excuse of the pipes and muh lead poisoning)
Attempted femenization of the male population
A series of incompetent and or ineffective rulers
Elites that would rather make a sheckel than build up their civilization (Crassus)
Devolution of art into meaningless shit
Back then they had the slave population problem, I'd say the debtor problem is the closest we could equate it to.

I could go on and on
Our problems are endless
Solutions are rarely mentioned and never implemented
Rome it took some time for the final blows to be struck
For the US I think it'll be quicker, things in the age of the internet happen much faster. The power of the British empire crumbled much faster than the Roman. I think the power of the American empire will collapse even quicker. It will be much more chaotic with the home continent than UK given our demographic situation.

The left it always is roman greek ottomans all fell wen the men went soft.

Looks like his vision is perfect 20/20

I hope you guys are ready for an actual collapse situation because it won’t be pretty. Knowing how to make a fire and prurifying water are 2 skills everyone should know.

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jews, niggers and spics
in that order

yes i agree completely
you are right and considering the ottomans by Allah will we will create the caliphate once again here in the Arab world
(not that isis shit more like abbasid or Umayyd Caliphate

i will put niggers before jews in the order

When I was in the Army one thing I thought was totally retarded was every goddam place you went there was a plaque near the door, prominently displayed labeled “The Commaner’s Vision.” Since I worked in hospitals it seemed to me this was the most goddam retarded thing I ever saw and I never learned a goddam thing from one of those stupid plaques. I mean the sign outside the door said “Emergency Room”. What kind of retard needs more info than this about what is supposed to go on in there?

But it occurs to me we actually need more of this. We need a National Plaque that states clearly “This (whatever “X”%) percentage of the USA will always remain white to honor those who built the goddam place (or whatever excuse).” But it occurs to me that like Affirmative Action Whites here deserve to know just what our government has in mind for us. What we need is a referendum demanding the government give us a real number and a commitment that “The USA will never be less white than this.” Pick whatever number they want be we need to know what that number is NOW.

caliphates are old news, we need one islamic republic under democratic rule, also women shouldn't be allowed to vote

Why, how did the ottomans start fucking litle boys by the shitloads?.is it the strict controle over the woman?.

As Rome did

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of course no woman, Caliphate will be meritocracy any lazzy low IQ unemployed motherfucker his vote should carry less wieght

these ottomans did alot of things against islam not minor thing but big sons like raping boys killing their brothers for the throne enslave christians for their army

The downfall of the American Empire will be when Martian colonists decide to declare formal independence. Then, a hundred years later, the US and Mars will get into some real shit.

>We need a National Plaque that states clearly “This (whatever “X”%) percentage of the USA will always remain white to honor those who built the goddam place (or whatever excuse).”

It pains me to see several people here wanting to throw the baby out with the bathwater when it comes to post collapse forms of govt. Yes what we have is shit but even in our degraded state the 1st and 2nd amendments partially shield us.

I personally want a articles of confederation style fed gov with a natl bill of rights, but most Americans cling to the constitutional form of govt. The natsoc people here do not understand that for Europe where you have populations that have been doing things the same way for 1000s of years it's easy to build a system around that. Inter white relations in burgerland are too chaotic for such a system. Most white burgers are still children. Even pre '65 we did not have enough of a high trust society for it to work. On top of this I have not seen it work on the scale of a country this large.

All we would have to do is add a few amendments to the constitution once we start over that will future proof us for some time. No society is incorruptible on a long enough time scale.
Additions:
Govt cannot borrow money
A privately owned entity cannot oversee our currency
1790 immigration act as an amendment
Mandatory national training for all able bodied males (not service)
Abolition of property taxes
Banning of usury

This can only work if we change who votes. These should be the requirements

120 IQ
Land owner (not mortgage owner)
Has children born in wedlock
Must pass 1 time test that is harder than current naturalization test
Must have passed national training without issue

With this every voter would have a stake in the future. Even without explicitly restricting it to fuckingwhitemales.jpg you would prevent pretty much everybody else from voting.
Every voter would be a
Father
Soldier
Decently intelligent

I agree your proposal would work better than what we have but I don’t see a way to get from here to there without violence. A violence almost none of us is really capable of.

>I don’t see a way to get from here to there without violence

Just be in a position to weather the storm and be ready to pick up the pieces
Acquire land, grow food, arm yourself and train your body, have children.
This beast will collapse under it's own weight, we don't need to commit any acts of violence.
Unless they try some dumb dick shit like fun confiscation, no need to shoot anybody unless they're invading your property.
After shit has gone bananas when it's all over the people who decide what happens will be the people who grow the food and have the guns. The only useful thing a commie ever said "Political power grows out of the barrel of a gun"

Been doing everything on your list for 40 years. Until very recently I thought that would be enough.

Somehow, it occurs to me a “Passive Revolution” doesn’t really stand much of a chance.

One reason, corrupt and ineffective leaders. The early Roman empire had mighty leaders, just like us, but in time in became a series of worthless or harmful emperors, just like us.

At this point in time an active one doesn't stand much of a chance either.
They have armed themselves but the average "conservative" still has a job and can put food on the table
Things have to get much more desperate than they are now for shit to happen
Burgers will not stir until food security is a problem plain and simple
Acting now would be futile
You'll know it when you see it

Like bankruptcy, it will happen very slowly then all at once.
It truly pains me to watch this amazing place break apart at the seams while the diversity crowd cheers.

I’m not young so I probably won’t see it.

Empires fall because one man or very small group of men steer it toward failure. The US is too large and power spread out evenly enough that this cannot happen. Nancy Pelosi singlehandedly ruining California has no bearing on the other 49 and vice versa.

Then make sure if you have boys they know whats up, I'm sure you have already

I don't know that you won't live to see it
We've come very close to shit kicking off in very recent history
Bundy ranch (not the malhure reserve retardation)
Attempted mass confiscation under obama in connecticut, look into the latter especially. It came within inches of open insurrection, govt backed down at the last minute.

When our economic future is no longer capable of maintaining the status quo. Then there will be danger

The localized version of this was when Hurricane Katrina hit New Orleans.

My children are very well aware of their legacy.

There are survival foods, buckets of rice, beans, powdered milk etc for about $50 a bucket and they weigh 40ish lbs each. Have 25 year shelf life. Buy some. That fire won't do you any good if you're starving.

>Trump's election proves that it's already happened
Trump's election was a pushback against anti-American Democratic policies and "progressive" liberals. People are sick of your shit.

>Trump's election was a pushback against anti-American Democratic policies and "progressive" liberals. People are sick of your shit.

It was pretty much the last chance for a peaceful controlled collapse, maybe a slight turn around
Those hopes have been dashed

The United States will decline when enough of the population no longer cares to preserve the values that made this country a superpower. It will most certainly come at the hands of the Democrats.

>future tense
>not realizing you've been in freefall since the mid-60s

>not realizing you've been in freefall since the mid-60s
I'd argue early 90's
Either way we've been fucked for a minute
Next stop collapse or Brazil

It's say an overall decline since the 1960s, with brief surges in the right direction in the 1980s and early 2000s (decline began again in 2003 and spiked in 2005 and beyond). Maybe Trump being re-elected would be a good sign.

I'm not saying there aren't large portions of the population (especially in blue states) that aren't completely insane, but enough of the population, geographically speaking, haven't lost interest in the values that made this country great. Not yet anyway...

We haven't even gone empire mode though. We will some day.

The USA fell in 1965 and we are living in the bloated, rotting corpse of what was once a great country. It's literally Weekend at Bernie's: Empire Edition

>The USA fell in 1965

That was the final legal blow to our system
Other major blows

1865 (10th amendment made meaningless)

1913 (muh fed reserve and irs)

1926 US (((code))) adopted

1933 H.J.R. 192 also known as the emergency banking act. It was the end of our lawful government. Last "law" passed by congress as a "House Joint Resolution", every subsequent law has been a "H.R. or House Resolution". This is when the US was officially bankrupt, we have been going into receivership ever since.

1938 Erie Railroad vs Tompkins US Supreme Court case. Court changed ruling from common law to equity law. Since this they have played with the jurisdiction to fit their needs case by case.

Then the final legal blows came under Johnson

1964 "civil" rights act

1965 Hart-(((Celler))) Act

1968- Fair Housing Act was just a double-tap to make sure it stays dead

>1968- Fair Housing Act was just a double-tap to make sure it stays dead

absolutely
There's been a few cherries added to the top of the cake since '65 that we all know of.
Legally the work had pretty much been done by then. It took a decade or so for the rot to really set in. Now we're living in the aftermath. We haven't collapsed yet, but it ain't lifetimes away.

The path of national restoration is an aberration. We only see it one time in Western Civilizations history. It came about with Augustus Caesar in Rome. Perhaps we should study this period and method.

Romes qualities from restoration; an absence of war, virtuous women, demographic restoration, restored currency, people sent to subdivide and settle on lands.

Of course Romes most important restoration feature was a renewed respect of the Gods.

>It came about with Augustus Caesar in Rome
That was just makeup on a pig. It didn't do diddly in the long run. Forces were already in motion that needed much more drastic measures to be stopped.

I think for the US it was Nixon/Regan
Nixon got shoa'd for a crooked toenail politically speaking
Regan got shot and basically let daddy Bush run shit afterwards

What will the collapse of the US look like? Will it happen when whites become a minority? What will happen to whites during and after the collapse?

If you haven't yet read the Fate of Empires by sir John Glubb do yourself a favor and read it.

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>What will the collapse of the US look like?
You're watching it daily. Pic related in Britain, but same shit happens here.
>What will happen to whites during and after the collapse?
Depends on where you are. If you are in an urban area there's a chance you will be consumed. If you're rural you'll be ok in most cases.

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>what u think will be the downfall of the american empire

NON-WHITE IMMIGRATION

Isn't it fucking obvious?

>Isn't it fucking obvious?
Demographic displacement is just the coup de grace
Several other factors that have been in play before the 1965 Hart-Celler act