Migration is a god thing. It's time you betas realize this
>Immigration diversifies local economies >It increases the population base >Immigration helps to create a global market >It raises the GDP >Immigration negates gaps that form in certain labor markets >Immigration encourages lower prices at the point-of-sale
Admit it. The only reason you are against immigration is because you know that we white women can't resist the black man. So stop larping as intelectuals
>Immigration diversifies local economies No it don't. When colonists come and open factories and mine, they add to the economy. Immigrants just take the already existing jobs.
>It increases the population base This is a BAD thing. It mean housing price increase. It mean GDP per capita fall and it take work to get it back at its normal rate. It mean less opportunities.
>Immigration helps to create a global market No. Trade agrement do. Beside, why do you even want a global market? It mean our job go to China.
>It raises the GDP And the GDP per capita fall.
>Immigration negates gaps that form in certain labor markets Strange, my country have 10% unemployment and it's mostly unskilled immigrants, while unskilled French struggle to find a job.
>Immigration encourages lower prices at the point-of-sale Ha yes. More demand mean lower prices, not the opposite.
Easton Phillips
>conflict that's either because of bad integration programs from the government or because the immigration wasn't planned well. Also right wing extremists like to provoke, which causes conflict. Wants everyone is mixed, they won't judge a person because oh their skin and the conflict will go away. Give it more time
Immigration of lowlifes like africans and arabs >reduce the standard of living >big missinvestment, becuase each brown savage is a loss of 1 million € >reduce the quality of life >reduction of wages for the working class >more crime >
Samuel Williams
this sounds like a german thread, go back to watching sissy hypno faggot.
People are tribalistic, it is our nature. those outside of our 'tribe' will always be seen as outsiders because they are. Prove to me diversity is a strength and not a weakness
Jayden Green
>Wants everyone is mixed when has this ever happened in history? Tribalism is a deep rooted part of human nature even fucking Yang said it Much more likely is that they will just reproduce until whites are in South Africa conditions then brutally kill you all luckily it wont come to that since brave men are fighting back
There has never been a successfully multi-cultural society. This isn't a new experiment.
What was the myriad of excuses all the others failed as well?
You can give reasons as to why if just these few things were different your philosophy would work, but it doesn't change the reality. Communism and perpetual motion machines would be nice, and would totally work if we just had the Infinity Stones, but it don't be like that.
Ryan Bell
Faggot, you are a greasy soiboy that takes black dicks in the ass. You aren't fooling anyone.
William Richardson
Well, it can be good or bad. It depends on the migrants. Do they bring skills we need? Are they willing to follow our laws, integrate with our culture and language, contribute to our society? If so, then yes, those are the kinds of immigrants we want.
Camden Richardson
>The only thing that matters is money
Women have been so thoroughly corrupted by capitalism that they shill for the fucking GDP of all things over their own interests
Dylan Reyes
immigration here is mainly poor people taking the jobs from other poor people.
its not fair or right to make the poor suffer more than they already do
Nathaniel Powell
why do you have to be from germany you retarded faggot.
Logan Ramirez
are you one of these faggot turks from reddit or pr0gram? subhuman trash.
Noah Flores
First of all femanon, you are not a cynical person because you don't ask the right questions. Who promotes immigration, illegal or otherwise, who benefits from immigration specifically. Now we're getting into the meat once we ask these questions, corporations and the elitist class want immigration because it's good for their bottom dollar, at the expense of the general public. What they have done, is to convince you that it's GOOD for our society, they convinced us that it's for "humanitarian" purposes, they convinced us that it's a moral obligation. If corporations that own our politicians and the elitist class did not profit in some shape or form from immigration, you'd see walls being built across the world overnight. This is what a simple cynical view of the elitist class illuminates. It's a pre-requisite into critical thinking, and now you carry their water for free.
William Thomas
you forgot to mention why any of these are good
Evan Price
>imagine larping as some slut with a nigger fetish
>False, unless you mean more welfare spending when you say "divisification" >Fireign population doesn't count as population growth >And that's a bad thing, also false, global economy stands on communication technology, not the physical location of peoples >Ain't factual >Could be done better Bonus: >Aging population issue can be solved through incentivization programs >Economics are secondary to the practical survival of your nation and people Bonus 2: Die, whore/kike
Evan Torres
All that matters if you’re a soulless materialist. Boycott Israel.
Cooper Diaz
>Wants everyone is mixed, they won't judge a person because oh their skin and the conflict will go away. Give it more time Google Ruwanda genocide. We will always find reasons to separate into groups. It may be kin, it may be religion, it may be politic. Look, WWII was about politic. Having "one inbred man with no culture or roots" won't stop the horror.
>that's either because of bad integration programs from the government or because the immigration wasn't planned well. Agree. It was "open the border and hope for the best". It should have been a selected immigration fitting the need of the host country. I am glad that we agree on this point. Just so you know, it's the program of every far right party in Europe and no other party want to screen the immigrants or to make realistic plans to integrate them. They just say "people shouldn't hate" and call it a day, as if hate didn't had causes.
Daniel Diaz
so you have no arguments against immigration? Just autistic screeching?
>Unemployment is reduced and young migrants enhance their life prospects
femanon here, hitler did nothing wrong and also i am married to a qt3.14 nazi chad who i'm going to have thirteen white children with and there is nothing you can do about it
Joseph Evans
>Who promotes immigration, illegal or otherwise, who benefits from immigration specifically. This is the important question. Remember that immigration -increase housing price -decrease wages -divide the population
Who benefit from it?
Jackson Gomez
>german >femanon shut the fuck up you damned kraut
Jaxson Hughes
Imagine actually being a Turk in Germany right now >HELP ME HELP ME HELP ME POP POP AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH HERE'S YOUR FUTURE HOLD STILL
>young migrants enhance their life prospects And it's our problem because??
Noah Brown
it doesnt diversify local economies, the only thing that does that is introducing new elements to the economy... not leeching consumers. increased population base is the source of urbanization and all the woes you bitch about in capitalism. as said before immigration does nothing for the global market, politicians/corps and their trade deals do. >muh GDP irrelevant when your nation is falling apart >doesnt understand supply and demand
Zachary Garcia
Maybe immigration would be a positive thing if the men in society weren't simultaneously broken down and berated. As it is now, this is a displacement, and it appears to be a kick to white men while they're already down.
This whole problem isn't caused by a single issue. The family unit is destroyed, the fathers are ruthlessly beaten emotionally, and the women are abandoning ship as if none of what's at stake ever mattered in the first place. This combination of occurrences combined with a generally high level of intelligence, and an evolutionary predisposition towards patience (cold weather survival, farming, and working in the present for rewards in the future) will eventually result in a cataclysm on the scale of a divine wrath. It's only a matter of time...
I don't see white men as weak, when someone takes a club to the back of their head, falling down doesn't implicate them as being weak. It only implicates them of being previously unaware of a threat. It's foolish to ignore all of the historical evidence that conflicts with the present narrative of weakness...
Camden Morgan
Because your nation brings foreigners and pays them German tax money in order to achieve this. As well as the fact that native Germans deserve these jobs and the consequential prospect enhancement.
Adrian Perez
Can't wait to watch you get tortured, raped and murdered.
Matthew Edwards
>it's the program of every far right party in Europe and no other party want to screen the immigrants don't know how it is in france but in Germany it was the right wing party that opened the borders and invited them. Linke and Grüne are against it. sweden is the most multiculural and has one of the best economies in europe.
Exactly, the asset holding class. Also here in the US, the side you are not being told is the humanitarian crisis on the border because of the confusion around "open borders". Little girls are being raped, children dying, sex trade, drug mules, because our elites want all of the things you've pointed out. Yet, Fem-user is considered the hero by our corporatist media for wanting to exacerbate this problem. They completely mind fucked her.
Chase Bennett
Boycott Israel
Aiden Kelly
Even if a good part of them manage to find jobs it will be low skilled and they'll be back on welfare by the next crash.
be careful what you wish for civil war will most likely come to Europe if nothing changes but who will that benefit and will indigenous Europeans be able to win?
Nah, it's almost always a negative thing. The only time immigration is okay is when it's of the same race, and when you have an entire empty continent to settle, as with America in the 1800s
Easton Lee
boycott Israel
Dominic Murphy
>sweden is the most multiculural and has one of the best economies in europe. it's the rape capital of Europe with daily grenade attacks lmao
Isaac Foster
>crapitalist thread Ewwww I stepped in shit.
Elijah Adams
OP is confused. You wouldn't know a diamond if you held it in your hand. The things you think are precious I can't understand. It's not about GDP unless you are the 1%.
Blake Moore
>famanon here *Muslim discord tranny. >you beta’s ...so you’re the chick in the pic? Why use another chicks pic. I wouldn’t call women howlers while placing a pic of another guy to represent me. You see I’m not really what anyone would call beta, so I’m genuinely interested. I’m in the archive here maybe 30 times a year. I don’t have a lot to be shy about so I use my own image, sweet pea. It’s quite weak to use other people’s images while alluding to your sex appeal being greater than other people’s. ...pic related. (Not)
>There has never been a successfully multi-cultural society. This isn't a new experiment.
It's even in the Bible. Tower of Babel, and then later when the Hebrews fail to remove the Baalites from the Holy land, repeated yet again in the prophecies of Daniel.
Ian Murphy
boycott Israel
Oliver Barnes
Boycott israel and kill Jews.
Luke James
>in Germany it was the right wing party that opened the borders and invited them. L You probably talk about the economic right. See, the world change. It's now divided between globalist and nationalists. Globalists want to break the people to make more money, some of them want some of the money used on the people, it's the economic left, some want the money invested in the economy, it's the economic right.
Meanwhile, the popular left see immigration as it is: a scheme to break the will and the unity of the working men, to create a surplus of labor and reduce wages and working condition. They want immigrants to stay in their countries to work there and make them bloom. The popular right on the other hand want the same thing but without the LGBTPTRS.
This is also why the elite push the people to be more divided about the sexual minority thing.
Mason Clark
>>Immigration diversifies local economies Based on a debt economy and ruins neighbourhoods >>It increases the population base That’s not a good thing. >>Immigration helps to create a global market Based in debt, so it doesn’t. >>It raises the GDP It really doesn’t. >>Immigration negates gaps that form in certain labor markets Lowers wages from native people so they can’t have a family wage whilst they can taxed to house migrants who don’t give anything back >>Immigration encourages lower prices at the point-of-sale Yet again loses wages you fucking brainlet. High quality = high wages = ability to buy good products and substain a family.
So knowing all the debt they cause, all the stuff that they demand via tax payers, all the stabbings, crimes, terror attacks are they worth it? No, next.
Jose Rogers
>>Immigration diversifies local economies
In what way?
>>It increases the population base
That is true, but only if you consider a foreign born population.
>>Immigration helps to create a global market
In what way?
>>It raises the GDP
How? By lowering wages?
>>Immigration negates gaps that form in certain labor markets
Most immigrants from third world countries have no education. Any 'labor gap' they can bridge could be done with machines.
>>Immigration encourages lower prices at the point-of-sale
How?
Adam Davis
And even in that case, it mean one of the local lost his job.
>sweden is the most multiculural Sorry but no.
>and has one of the best economies in europe. North Italy tier. Not even close of Swiss.
Wyatt Butler
>sweden is the most multiculural and has one of the best economies in europe. Because the swedes are the only one that are working, migrants aren’t.
Asher Lewis
the crimes are going down and the reasons for the crimes are thatz they are unemployed. There are no criminals, just hungry.
Henry Gutierrez
>femanon here
sage
Brody Ortiz
women are retarded. sage troll threds
Adam Rogers
economy economy economy an economy is a tool, if you kill the people who are supposed to use it you are evil and a traitor
>It increases the population base no, it replaces the native population with a lower iq one, which damages the economy because IQ is an 80% predictor of economic success >Immigration helps to create a global market wrong, it takes the higher iq people from low iq countries, which sabotages their economy, >It raises the GDP i can raise the GDP by running someone over >Immigration encourages lower prices at the point-of-sale yeah because you're increasing the supply of labor which fucks over the working class and only benifits already wealthy billionaires
Didn't these same people give us shit a few decades ago about over population in general and how First World countries need a lower population for ecological reasons?
>Based in debt, so it doesn’t.
I'm not seeing how even that would do it.
>It really doesn’t.
Maybe if it drove wages down enough it might increase GDP (a national measure of wealth, not individual) if that transferred to demand for a nations products. In which case it is an example of the rich getting richer and the average/poor getting poorer.
>Lowers wages from native people so they can’t have a family wage whilst they can taxed to house migrants who don’t give anything back
I'm seeing very little possible improvement here
>Yet again loses wages you fucking brainlet. High quality = high wages = ability to buy good products and substain a family.
I'm not seeing how a larger population = increased demand somehow then transfers to lower prices. Unless of course they brought with them a massive accepted for a huge drop in quality.
Brandon Ramirez
An hour later OP still hasn't posted bobs or vagene and all you assholes still took the bait. ITT: A bunch of faggots, almost as gay as OP.
Connor Lee
We're bringing KARA BOGA back? What is it, 2017 again?