If we ever end up living on Mars, what will Martian politics be like?
If we ever end up living on Mars, what will Martian politics be like?
Niggershit aids fuckery.
It will look a lot like communism, until we'll have an actual self sustaining colony.
After that, luxuries will be privatised and capitalism will prevail.
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mars is a fucking psyop you retarded niggers
implying any of us would get to go as anything but slaves
The (((Mars Mission))) I mean
no one is going to mars
Reas Red Mars. The first 100 colonists are systematically hunted down to make way for massive waves of immigrants from an overpopulated Earth. It's really sad actually
GAS THE EARTHLINGS
INTERPLANETARY WAR NOW
no niggers, kikes, wops, greasers, aussies, abos, no sjw no femenatzis. chinks are ok. rest go back to earth where you belong...
Come home white man .. come home to Mars.
they already confirmed to not be sending any white males there
its best we take over Antarctica and hold the place hostage or we melt the cunt and let the world burn
People with connections will go there first, after space travel becomes more affordable, more blue collar people would probably go there for the jobs. The land will probably be bought up by the wealthy. Fucking MARS, INC
>what will Martian politics be like?
In 2254 Martian President Adolf Olympus will advocate for the building of a space wall too keep dirty cloud heads from Jupiter out. Because they take Martians' jobs, rape Martian women and bring down the grades of Martian children.
Mars really suffered a devastating blow after 4 years of President Christina Redstein's horrific policy of open space harbours.
Gravity wells are for suckers.
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Musk said he thinks it should be a reformed type of "Direct Democracy" but has acknowledged that life on Mars will be dictated by the primary objective of establishing a self sustaining colony and as a result, the first missions (likely the next 20-50 years of missions) will be ran exactly like a military operation, which I think means "democracy" will not exist in the beginning and colony will be in the hands of the US Military/ President until it's time to finally create the colonies political arena.
Also, every saturday 10pm UK time I make a general called "/etm/ - Earth To Mars" to discuss this sort of topic. pic related, we have our own propaganda now.
>Musk said
Jews are not allowed in space
Probably at first it will be a land for the wealthy and scientific elite. Genetic modification will probably be much more acceptable there than on earth to some extent. Also no guns would be allowed except for a mars security force.
We need heartlings to come enrich us and open restaurants.
>Musk
>Jew
According to Babylon5, Mars is going to suck. Martians will be proud of every minor accomplishment, but will be completely dependent on Earth. One day they will demand independence and reperations. Shortly after that, a super powerful alien race will emerge and Mars and Earth will join forces to defeat this common enemy.
You are going to be the same retarded niggers no matter what, so expect more of the same shit.
total robocracy as predicted by the daily show
no niggers. no jews. no chinks.
John Snow would start a Martian colony, then declare war against earth.
the literal first people who would be sent to mars would probably be niggers, jews, women, and chinks.
yeah but the first ones always die so I'm ok with that.
pissed at earth for Martians not being able to survive on earth due to musclular dystrophy.
mfw
The exact second a white man sets foot on mars jews will be funding space caravans for africa
How many different stories feature an ancient evil lurking on mars? 40k has a C'tan on Mars as well.
it's honestly too expensive, which is lucky for us.
Watch the expanse
how many rubber rafts will it take to get niggers to mars?
It's shit though. It's game of thrones for nu wars fans.
fuck that watch Earth2. Another B sci fi cancelled before its time. Honestly the best kind of sci fi.
humans will live on venus in about a million years. Mars' time came and went. it was nice while it lasted but it couldn't stop the femin from destroying literally everything
Likely non at all, some politicians on earth will decide everything that happens on mars
No FAGA hats allowed, drumpfkikes
Probably comparable to Antartica, where they decide the land is unclaimable through a council. There will be science stations and I think China will follow up soon after the American SpaceX and develop a station.
Both are retarded desu senpai. best thing to do is construct shipyards in orbit of the moon with resource gathering ground bases and orbital refineries. Start making major city sized stations to house a working population in space. Maybe do an in system cruise with an actual space ship instead of some faggot pod for exploration and funsies but colonizing any thing but a suitable world for immediate living is waste of time with our current and near future technology. We can't Teraform earth yet so how is Mars going to be fixed much less the acid face melting atmosphere of venus?
According to Wernher von Braun, the Martian government will have a Parliament headed by a position called the Elon.
Elon would be the guy to show up just in time to lead the government that declares independence from Earth.
Do you think they will find any artifacts there? There are large valleyes there, created by electrical storms. Like a immense beam of electricity hit the ground several places.
Speaking of which:
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We will need space stations/colonies to make the mars settlement happen.
where where you when Zion's foundation was laid.
If I recall correctly Mars in Alita has a faction of Nazis that claim to have found a WWII era UFO giving them the right to claim the whole planet. Mars in the Expanse is somewhat crypto-fascist as well, purely because of the demands of terraforming such a rugged planet.
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and who knows, I personally don't think so. But i think we will find evidence of life.
Watch The Expanse, quality shit.
I've seen enough to firmly believe live has already been found. Trouble being that the wackadoos muddy shit up with their incessant bullshit so no one will admit it, or even attempt to take the concept seriously.
can you substantiate please? I'm curious.
well there is ice there, and geographic evidence of lakes and stuff existing so I wouldn't be surprised if some sort of very basic life existed for a few million years before everything fell apart.
Did you see the game Prey: Mooncrash. The only whites on the moon are a slave and a janitor.
Corporatism. Don't like it, there's the airlock.
It's not hard to find. Look though the actual NASA pictures from mars and you will often see what appears to be seashells and other fossil like things.
I'm not talking woowoo shit were people flip out thinking jpeg compression is a ancient ruins or some such.
Take a genuine look and you'll be surprised. At least enough to go hmmmm. It's worth doing.
>well there is ice there
It's not water ice. It's Carbon dioxide.
>appears to be
I have a co-worker who is in the carribean right now because he saw blurry photos of a seashore and he said he was certain it was the remains of flying cars from atlantis. You remind me of him.
Unlikely because of dust storms, toxic soil and almost nonexistent atmosphere. All that and the test of time? Very unlikely
The caps at both poles consist primarily of water ice.
This is the shit I was talking about.
I'm sure when they found the new world someone tried to explain seeing odd things like new animals and plants and was laughed at because some bombastic jackass had mentioned mermaids. So all serious discussion goes out the window because the fucktards on both sides are now hung up on the stupid mermaid concept.
Mars colonization is a meme why would you go to a worse place ?
>low gravity
>weak non existent atmosphere
>soil is usless
>atmospheric pressure difference
unironically Venus is a lot better choice
but even then you guys do understand you will only create another subspecies in the long term
the different affects of gravity, sunlight expouser, bio conditions will create space niggers
enjoy being banished from Eden 2.0
the rich will be able to visit and go back to Earth meanwhile the avreage Joe just condemned his whole offspring to life under the "glass"
how could you even imply venus is better you fag
>have to maintain altitude at all time
>anything falling past a certain point would be completely lost
>meaning no ways of using indigenous rocks or materials to build/repair
>meaning no mining of anything either
>100% dependence on earth's resources
>terraforming will only become available hundreds of years past mars' (if at all possible)
much shorter travel time and earth-like gravity sounds great, but the rest makes it completely pointless
if anything our best bet are moon colonies and/or halos/o'neil rings/toruses
try and capture asteroids passing by, or even get to the belt to get some and use them as materials to make the thing and there you go
it will be rich white and asian people at first, slowly grow to more upper class whites/asians
then people will complain
>"muh diversity"
and important thousands of low iq brown skins
no
no
>have to maintain altitude at all time
there are such things as ...airships
At 55 km (34 mi) altitude, the atmosphere of Venus is 27 °C (81 °F) and 0.5 bars (50 kPa) (the equivalent pressure to about 5,500 m (18,000 ft) on Earth). However, due to the large amount of CO
2, density for a given pressure is greater than in Earth's atmosphere, therefore breathable air acts as a buoyant gas at altitude. Concurrently, the gravity at the proposed altitude is 8.73 m/s2 versus 9.81 m/s2 on Earth's surface.
>meaning no ways of using indigenous rocks or materials to build/repair
that is a minus but we could park a few asteroids in orbit and use them
Additionally, the upper atmosphere could provide comparable protection from harmful solar radiation to Earth's atmosphere. The Atmosphere of Mars, as well as the Moon provide little such protection
good alternative to floating cities are artificial mountains which are still better than Mars teraform ideas
oh yeah because keeping airships the size of small towns (at the very least) in the air at all time is an easy feat
and don't give me the balloon meme, there's so many things that can go wrong with those
>park a few asteroids
sure, but then you'd have to consume that much more fuel to bring shit into orbit and then back down to altitude over and over again
just build the thing in space in the first place, there are already too many things that could go wrong as is, adding more layers of overcomplications will not turn out well for anyone involved
>artificial mountain
well that's a first, how'd you plan on making one of those?
we obviously can't go on the surface to start working there, so what do you suggest? that we keep throwing shit at it until it hopefully maybe forms a mountain we can use?
a 55km high one? (everest is ~9km high, by the way)
we make an artificial mountain and we build a city on top of it
I know it would be expensive but it is well within our capability also we should not think in terms of money now it would be a long term investment
it would be funny to start blaming the jews when things go wrong when there are no actual jews tehre
funner when it turns out they really did it
made with autonomous robotic bulldozers and excavators we use Maxwell Montes 11 kilometres (36,000 ft) high mountain massif on the planet Venus as the starting point
It will be a technarchy that builds cyborg super-soldiers.
Will they be cute? I'm glad you asked that - yes, yes they will.
Like any other colony.
First explorers are sent. Then settlers. It is depended on host nation. Fast forward. It is taxed too heavily or something else. Revolution. Indpendence. Fast forward years. Better relations with prevous host nation. Joins previous host nation in close cooperative agreement
>we obviously can't go on the surface to start working there, so what do you suggest
The longest survival time for a human-made object on Venus was 127 minutes, back in 1981 when the Soviet spacecraft Venera 13 landed there.
The Venera landers kept their electronics cool with cumbersome hermetically sealed chambers, and sometimes the innards were also pre-cooled to around -10°C before being dropped into the atmosphere by the parent orbiter.
Over the last few years electronics based on the semiconductor silicon carbide (SiC) have started to mature. SiC has drawn a lot of interest from the military and heavy industries because it can support very high voltages and temperatures—and those properties make it a very suitable candidate for computing on Venus, too.
No blacks, no jews, no Irish
>capability
huh....
I don't think you realize the mass we'd need to throw at it to have something like this senpai
it doesn't have a moon we could use either, and we can't throw too much of it at once or it'll just fuck up with the atmosphere for decades or even hundreds of years
After 2 generations you would start calling them genetically inferior earth niggers
autonomous vehicles to build it over a long period of time, we could make them survive those conditions
I know the cost is huge but think of the science we will get out of Venus..sure beats Mars
Venus will force us to innovate
Current day earth but without the green, water, and conservatives, th hood shit basically. Ironically, Martians will lie themselves into a war with themselves and later with Earth and lose.
>I know the cost is huge but think of the science we will get out of Venus
What science? We could just study pressure cookers and discover the same shit.
It will have. It will be closer to the vastness and the richness of the outer solar system, but earth would always hold more sway. Who knows.
Okay I might have used the wrong word but it would force us to innovate
When you actually develop new materials, electronics needed for the job
Also who is to say we wont find new molecules or elements on Venus... the conditions are extreme
My man!
Probably some version of totalitarianism, whether fascist/monarchist or communist.
Any society in a place where you can't breathe the atmosphere is going to have extremely centralized power structures and an emphasis on government power over individual freedom, since the population will literally rely on utilities operated by the state in order to survive.
It will have to be a technocracy too, seeing as some uninformed nigger making a single mistake could mean the end of all life on Mars. Probably gonna be a small council of head engineer, biologist, chemist, doctor, and physicist.
Doesn't Musk want to build a self sustaining city? Probably something that would sound bad on Earth but would make perfect sense there.
Theocratic technocracy of course. Praise Omnissiah.
already waiting for the sequel, user.
>Maybe do an in system cruise with an actual space ship instead of some faggot pod for exploration
Do you know what Delta V is?
Space flight and orbital maneuvering isn't like Futurama.
Completely uninteresting for the first few centuries, because the colonies will be completely dependent on Earth. Once the planet becomes decently livable, the colonies will declare independence and form the new Martian superpower. It will have the resources of an entire planet under its control while Earth's nations are still divided.
Basically the story of the USA repeated in space.
>If we ever end up living on Mars, what will Martian politics be like?
Watch The Expanse.
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Just lime the planet.
RED
Wow dude, here's your credit. Fucking faggot. Like were you THAT concerned someone wouldn't credit you?
>Martian politics
Will mostly consist of following orders from upper management back on Earth. Even deep into the future there might never be separate Mars nations or a unified Mars. It likely will be a series of outposts, maybe a few towns then onward to The Belt, Jupiter and Saturn.