How would you answer?

How would you answer?

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he wouldnt go to heaven either

You're starting the conversation with a false premise.

Whether you know about God is irrelevant. He will judge you based on your deeds.

LOL THEISTS BTFO

Because we're intent on fucking your day up, Nanook.

because if you know of god and sin it is your obligation to spread the gospel

which god?
there are thousands to choose from

why would you tell others about your obligation so they are ensnared by the same trap?

>He will judge you based on your deeds.

There's more branches of Christianity that don't really hold to this than do.

Why are we talking about these degenerate mongoloids? They are literally the cancer of North America. They are also the equivalent of niggers here in Canada.

Christianity is a con game

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the god of abraham, isaac, and jacob

The whole point of Christianity, Christ's death on the cross and resurrection, is that the old jewish way would mean he would go to hell for his sins. But since Jesus redeemed us, we can go to heaven by believing in his sacrifice. So he's offering him a better way

The version with jewish jesus, yes, the original greek version no. The original greek version was pretty based.

Rejecting knowledge because it comes with responsibility is the mindset of a subhuman.

>There's more branches of Christianity that don't really hold to this than do.
not in terms of the number of members.

Because Eternal Life is knowing Jesus Christ. Not going to Hell is just a byproduct. Desu desu desu

why not the other gods?
and btw if you're of European decent why are you following the god of persians?

>you make a good point eskibro, I guess by preaching eternal torture, I'm preaching a false gospel.
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Hope you like some noble pagans you chug bitch

hell was a concept created after most religions were, what happened to "bad people" when they died not knowing of that concept?
Also, the Roman Caesar family named Flavian's created and pushed the Christ myth, he never existed

except in the conversation he said he wouldn't go to hell anyway

There's only one god, the others are deceivers and spirits who are mistaken as god.

>why would you tell others about your obligation so they are ensnared by the same trap?

Morality is discernible without the explicit understanding or knowledge of God, simply through the human ability of reason. Many greek philosophers expounded on this idea. See: Natural Law.

"Just say Jesus forgive me right before you die and you're good lol"

Poor little slaves, they just can't handle the concept of life without being bound to a religion.
So very sad

>and btw if you're of European decent why are you following the god of persians?

>Why would you believe in the God that created the universe and everything in it, rather than believing in a pantheon of """gods""" who stood for nothing in particular, and are all dead?

people who believe in their god(s) would say the same thing about your god

Please Google "Roko's Bassalisk". Please. I don't want an eternity in hell.

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I can hear your fedora tipping from here, leaf.

Hell is not even mentioned in the Bible, what it is is not even really described. The fact is that eternal salvation is much better, than any alternative

Right, so basically you're putting words in the priest's mouth that we don't actually believe, and then asking us to defend them.

Why would we defend something that we don't believe? To win an imaginary internet debate?

Correct them that they would not go to Hell for rejecting what you don't know but they might for whatever mortal sin they die with, as the moral law is innate to all people.

then why used the abrahmic concept of a deity when that wisdom is already encoded in us all?
Why give your donations to an order that doesn't give fuck about you?
Why give your life to people who call you sheep?
Why do you support a system than enslaves you and teaches you to accept the wicked ways of others because you were told they'd be punished in the afterlife?
It's just so very sad

most of that "if you didn't know you're ok" is just bleeding heart bullshit people made up to feel better about the countless people who missed salvation
a lot of christianity is like that these days
and once you pollute a religion in that manner, anything goes, and it ceases to have meaning
in the first place, europeans shouldn't have been trying to "save" undeveloped shitskins, and that's why universalist desert religions are bad

I gotta surprise for you
You are a slave to your own gods too
Be it sex, escapism or another, make no mistake you slave for it

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>t. cianigger ad hominem
try an argument next time, or are you that incapable of responding as such

what gods are you referring to?
I am completely against religions as a whole because I see them as enslavement, what i do believe is something you would never understand so I won't bother sharing it

The answer is actually yes. He would go to hell. Thats why spreading the Word is so important

So now you'll think twice about being a piece of shit.

Also this.

Easily. Since you didn't know about the deal you are not going to go to hell if you were a good person in your life.
You will, however, go to Limbo for a certain period where your sins will be washed away so you can enter heaven.

It isn't a fucking rocket science kike.

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>citation needed

Just so we're clear, if you follow ANY religion you are a slave. The word religion literally means "to bind" not "set free" or "liberate" and you were indoctrinated to made you a pliable slave because of a religion

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made=make*

Yeah I've been listening to the new testament audio book at work because I wanted to know what it said for myself and jesus basically said this. I don't remember which verse or book tho.

No

Pray tell, if religion is slavery, then what is freedom?

The answer is yes, so that kind of makes this thought experiment pointless.

>REEEEE I DON'T WANNA FOLLOW RULESSSSSS REEEEEEE

The universe had one point of creation, one creator, and a consistent natural law, which implies one source. To think God has a race is fucking retarded, and to think there are many gods is plebian

money, hedonism, addiction, cult of your body
all are your shackles, and like a religion you cant break away and slave to them
its almost as if its...the devil taking hold of you cause you lowered your guard and gave yourself to either of those

faith, but without having to abide the word of man. the bible is not the word of god, men wrote it.

>then why used the abrahmic concept of a deity when that wisdom is already encoded in us all?
Jews and Christians believe that the wisdom was encoded into us by the creator. You can't have a law without a lawmaker, and you can't make a law without some degree of authority.

>Why give your donations to an order that doesn't give fuck about you?
Donations are optional and voluntary.
I've seen tons of people put $1 or even $0 into a collection plate, and still come back every week.
>Why give your life to people who call you sheep?
Not sure what kind of church you've been to, but nobody says that.
>Why do you support a system than enslaves you
I was atheist for 30 years until I lived through an eye-opening experience. I assure you this is totally voluntary.
>teaches you to accept the wicked ways of others
be more specific

False. Many monists think everyone ultimately worships the same Creator. Hindus believe this as well.

>I was atheist for 30 years until I lived through an eye-opening experience
Did u get rapped

That's nu church kikery

The notion of a single deity holds up pretty well in philosophy. The God of Abraham met that description perfectly

The priest in that is wrong. The eskimo would be judged by some other means and could possibly go to hell.

So of course that biased, unsourced bullshit image is wrong.

This is pretty much the premise of smtiv:a and krshna comes in, says God is retarded and offers to recreate you in a universe where you're judged by your own efforts instead of being a slave.

Then everyone is cunts and you end up just killing everyone


Fuck abraham

*dies from the common cold and goes extinct*
Truly the white man was wrong

>but without having to abide the word of ma
And to ride with what exactly? What is the part of the "word of man" that enslaves you? Is it where it tells you to not get divorced unless you get cheated on?
>the bible is not the word of god, men wrote it.
The statement here is that it is INSPIRED by God. If God cared about mankind, and wished to guide us, would he not give as an INSPIRED text to abide by? Even if "falsehoods" are written in it would God not bring about editors to fix it?

>doesn't realize that's still being a slave
brainlet

There is no scriptural justification for this

The priest is wrong.

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So then why would someone who knows of God's exitence and forgiveness, yet does horrible sin, get to ask for forgiveness before death? Just stop being a fucking faggot and accept God is not real.

You really are sloppy today Silverstein.

Repent for the end is near.

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Religion comes from the lation word religio which means to be in awe or fear of God (s) or Spirit

Paul says it a few times in Romans.

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You're just objectively wrong

its not
hindus are based they created gods of everything, monkey god, woman god, black god, trans god, but more of a message
There is 1 creator and we just perceive it how we want or need.
Babylon 5 had a great finale about this when the creator appears all the races see it as their race, he is one with everyone

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I don't care what it was inspired from, if God exists he/she/it/they will let me know him/her/themselves

How?

I know. I agree that if you arent worshipping christ, you're worshipping some bullshit. But I was just pointinf out that his fedora tipping meme about "which god" is a false argument

Babylon 5 sounds like some Mason bullshit

You won’t go to hell but you will go to purgatory. No one goes to the father without Jesus.

That’s the proper Christian answer I believe.

Yeah it's still slavery, but being judged by my karma as opposed to getting the death penalty out the gate is a much better deal.


Unless you go full Buddha and abstain from all material desires, which itself is still railroading yourself towards a dogma you may or may not totally agree with because some fat dipshit got high off nothing a few thousand years ago

>we just perceive it how we want or need.
Peak kikery. Truth is objective.

He did. He incarnated. If you genuinely want Him to contact you more directly, ask with an open heart. Worked for me

It's pretty clear. Know God, accept Jesus, or go to hell.

Reading this made me realize how jewed the media has always been.
>woke (((journalist))) talks to wise minority
>how stupid are those white goys amirite?
>yes even though they’ve civilized the americas after millennia of my people raping and killing each other, somehow, I have some kind of authority to guilt these chad conquerors despite the fact that I probably have no idea how my ancestors actually lived because it’s been generations since manifest destiny.
>that’s good stuff, goy indian, I’ll make sure to tell my “fellow white man” how they’re so uppity and anti-weimarian. Heehee. They’re so stupid, I just need to write dramatically.
>and then the wise chief gazed at the banke...I mean, journalist
>proceed to spread gaping, beat up kazar fart hole and inserts bison sized meat scepter only used for peace offerings
>the wise ancestors of bigone days look down from the spirit realm with the medicine man and nod in approval.
>the goyim read the enlightening article in the papers.
>suddenly realizes the sophistic ated ways of the ashkenazi are truly based.
>cast aside religion
>cast aside family
>flee to pornography and degeneracy
>allow the horde to invade
>wagecuck themselves to a lifetime of usury assault.
Truly, the goyim are stupid enough to fall for this bullishit right?

Can you go to heaven or hell *from* purgatory?

Ask yourself a few questions first.
>If you don't believe that a God exists, then why are you so concerned what happens when you die?

>If you don't believe that justice exists, why do you care if somebody is forgiven?

Thats not in scripture. If you're not in light, you are in darkness
Read your bible

Haha best get yourself to Church, Eskimo Joe.

the original "sky spirit" concept came from Tengriism which is what most native indian tribes practices as a belief system but not a binding. That sky spirit concept became brahman in hinduism, then morphed into dagon the fish god with nimrod as a reborn messiah, then when the Habiru showed up to Egypt they copied the Hindu gods and made animistic versions like Thoth the bird god who was supposed to represent Hermes Trismegistus. It was when Akhenaten was taught the Kings Torah that the first monothestic religion was born with Aten and after that Judaism was born with YHWH as the central abrahamic god. Following that the Vatican formed a religion based on Dagon worship mixed with Aten and called it Catholicism. Then the Flavian Caesars were also taught the Kings Torah and came up with the Christ myth, and lastly a jew helped create Islam for mohomudman the illiterate arms dealer.
That's the combined history of belief systems and religions spanning over ten thousand years, but we've been on this planet for far longer than that so I don't abide by these religions or their concepts just because they're the newest thing, in fact I despise all of them because they make stupid people accept shitty things and wait for the afterlife to punish terrible people.

Carry on then

>catholicism

In actual Christianity if you did not know of Jesus or God your sins are weighed based off animalistic necessity.
Your sins were not ignored, you would still be punished or rewarded on a separate weighted scale that only God can divine.

That's a retarded imaginary conversation created by some smug idiot who thinks he knows more than he does.

That doesnt mean salvation through works. Thats just about how to live a good life on earth. You cant even know righteousness without the Holy Spirit.
Jesus said "No one comes to the Father, except through Me."

Amen.

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you miss my point, I don't need a religion to do that. My faith tells me there is a higher power, and I should live my life virtuously, not to impress the higher power, but just because its the right thing to do.

You must make a choice user. In this life you must choose Christ to receive eternal salvation.

>purgatory
That's not even real so whatever

I'm pretty sure it's just a joke

>THIS IS NOT A THREAD AND SHOULD BE DELETED.
whaaaaaa

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No clue, I’m honestly not Christian. I just believe that’s the answer you’d get from them.

Purgatory is a nicer way of putting it.

Evangelicals would tell your ass you’ll burn in Hell and believe it’s their mission to spread the word of Jesus far and wide so people can be saved. Lol