The RAF destroyed the Luftwaffe

>The RAF destroyed the Luftwaffe
>The red army depleted the Wehrmacht

What the fuck did the US do?

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Singlehandedly defeated Japan and retook all the colonial assets you lost like Singapore

You're welcome by the way

Trained you fags and paid for it

Ah yes, the powerful Japanese empire, how could I forget

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Was wondering the same...

Strategic bombing was a big factor.

The japs sure won't

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Sent the first major lend-lease supply convoy to the Soviet Union in 1943 after The Germans failed to take Moscow and were slaughtered at Stalingrad then Claim they defeated Germany.

Source: quora.com/Could-the-Soviet-Union-have-defeated-the-Germans-without-U-S-support-or-Lend-Lease ( in this comment)

Fought and died on European soil for a bunch of mutts then rebuilt the infrastructure that allowed people to live normal lives.

Naval battles
Supply
Bombing
Operations in Italy
Fucking Japan up

>for a bunch of mutts
No, you didn't do it for Americans
You did it for the jews

Yes, the Japanese Empire

Which required a navy and amphibious landings, instead of just a zerg rush over land and some planes

Fanatical Japanese that, unlike beaten Germans, did not surrender until every single one of their soldiers died, which is why if you wiki literally any battle in the Pacific Campaign you'll find every single one that says something like
>Strength: 40,000 Troops
>KIA: 39,950

Meanwhile in Burma British troops literally sat around waiting for the mud to dry

I didn't do it. My grandfather did. He fought to help your grandfather and grandmother, because he felt like they needed help.

I won't make the same mistake for an ungrateful continent that thinks everybody who hates you and your culture should be a citizen of your country.

Why are you being such a massive cunt?

RAF were scrubs whi were too coward to fly daylight missions over Germania and liked to suck each other off after tea and crumpets while the Mighty Eighth reduced the good guys to rubble for the Jew.

Playing Mediator again.
Industrial and resource powerhouse of the war, also the last line of defense if Britain/USSR fell.

How about these fucks question the intent and participation of Sweden, of Brazil, Agentena or even Switzerland instead of bothering the US? maybe we'll join the Germans next time.

checked

The germans killed 5 Americans for every 1 german soldier they killed

saved the world from Germany, again
defeated Japan singlehandely
held off the USSR for 70 years afterwards
you're welcome, ingrate

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Funded both of you niggers.

My grandfather didn't need help, idiot. My country, Slovakia, was allied to Germany and you idiots fucked it up and gave us to the Soviets who then ruled over us for the next 40 years and treated us much worse. I'm not thankful at all, I'm livid. Next time sit on your stupid ignorant and uneducated asses and don't fight for Mr. Shekelberg, stupid shabbos goy.

This.

youtu.be/PKAOGCElH94?t=6

Cool gif

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Didn't the Soviet Union/Russia basically defeat Japan as well? Heard Japan was going to surrender to the soviets because they were coming from Manchuria and the north and were doing better with taking over Japan than USA. But USA didn't want a Soviet Japanese state so they showed of the nuclear weapons to halt communism

The British were bombing Germany long before the Americans. The Americans jumped in at the end, as usual.

noice , don't mind if I save it

Also, unlike Ms. Shekelstein told you in school, most Europeans didn't suffer under the Germans at all. Unless they were kikes.

Fight the Japanese and lend-lease everyone. Sure the Russians took Berlin. But they rode in American trucks, wore American boots, and ate American spam.

Be my guest Romaniabro

>maybe we'll join the Germans next time.

Probably should have then, except now the Germans are as open to cuckery as a self flagellator in the closet watching his wife being pounded by Achmed the Endowed.

This. Soviet slanteye zergs were running on US canned spam.

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None of the 850,000 German troops who were killed in WWII suffered.

The USSR showed up at the last minute to fight, quite literally impoverished colonial Manchurian troops with outdated equipment. This is of course after Japan had been blockaded and fighting the US for 4 years.

The few amphibious landings the Soviets attempted in places like the Kuril Islands were so hilariously mismanaged that a ragtag outpost of 500 IJA soldiers managed to hold off 30,000 Soviet navy troops for days. Keep in mind the majority of Japanese defenses were concentrated south.

The USSR basically did the same thing Europeans accuse Americans of doing in WW1. The USSR was never a factor in Japanese defeat and contributed nothing to the campaign except some last minute face time.

Wrong Wrong and Wrong

Trucks:
01/01/42

Domestic russian trucks in service:
317,100

Lend lease trucks:
0
---

01/01/43

Domestic Russian trucks in service:
378,800

Lend lease trucks:
22,000
---

01/01/44

Domestic Russian trucks in service:
387,000

Lend lease trucks:
94,100
---

01/01/45

Domestic Russian trucks in service:
395,200

Lend lease trucks:
191,300
---

05/01/45

Domestic russian trucks in service:
385,700

Lend lease trucks:
218,100
---
Food:
320 MILLION tonnes of wheat alone was produced in USSR 1941-1945. Without the lands occupied by Nazis.
Total LL supply of food was 4,478 million tonnes. 1,4% of just the wheat crops in Soviet Union.

quora.com/Could-the-Soviet-Union-have-defeated-the-Germans-without-U-S-support-or-Lend-Lease

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>japan
>attacks pearl harbor
>germany
>why do i hear boss music?

Let me ask you something else you ungrateful sack of paki shit, how did your postwar Europe plans work out for you? Enjoying that Empire you still have? France and German stll your best allies?

no, they're not because you had to PUNISH Germany. Post-war germany hates you, has a better economy than you.

The US didn't punish Japan after the war, we helped them rebuild, forgave them. We acted like adults rather than spiteful children just because 'muh empire'. Yes, they attacked us in a cowardly way but we did'nt stoop down to their levels.Japan is now a power house in economy and slowly regaining military power. Best of all? They're one of our best allies, and their people prosper and respect our own.

Fuck you, you desire everything that's plagued your island shithole nation. Next time, London will be Europe's Hiroshima.

>320 MILLION tonnes of wheat alone was produced in USSR 1941-1945. Without the lands occupied by Nazis.
Total LL supply of food was 4,478 million tonnes

320,000,000 tons of food.
vs
4,478,000,000 tons of food.

Go pick some pockets gyppo.

moral support

Friendly reminder: the first time most Durch saw a negro irl was when the Americans were marching through town, after Berlin already fell. Their government shipped niggers to Europa to kill their ancestors. Who the fuck does that? You know the answer

God will punish America

Soldiers of course did. But civilians were fine, for the most part. The only part of Europe with massive atrocities against civilians was the Soviet Union and maybe Poland.

Southern Europe was axis, northern Europe didn't see any battles except for Finland defending against the Soviets. There was some bombing in London and a very quick invasion of France and Benelux, but after that everything was peaceful on the western front. Central Europe was fine too.

320 MILLION TONS VS 4 MILLION
That why its 4,478 Million tonnes instead of 4 .478 BILLION
It's a typo
Google it yourself El Atrocidad

Come on now. The US did all the heavy lifting in the Pacific theater.

Took all glory for itself

'domestic'

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lend-Lease#/media/File:Katjuscha_1938_Moscow.jpg

Just saying you didn't beat them singlehandedly
Well I am not that well informed about the Pacific theater compared to the European one. However I always thought Soviets were gaining land much faster than USA and this scared the Japanese so badly they were trying to surrender to Moscow while wanting to keep their army. Which is why it didn't happen before USA used nukes to stop the soviet growing influence in Asia

This is true
But The Destruction Germany suffered in WW2 is not comparable to Japan
Also, The British did not singlehandedly decide what to do with Germany, The Soviets broke their eastern possessions from them. Also, America was instrumental in the process of "de-Nazification"

The USSR was basically fighting level 1 crooks while we were fighting level 99 bosses every island.

>Well I am not that well informed
Your only accurate statement thus far

Also, the British and Americans did not do this

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Thanks for losing Singapore. I loved being stationed there and living in old brit housing!

was waiting for massive hiroshima but it never came. disappointed.

honestly fuck you for calling us weak. you know i had respect for you brits but you crossed the line.

Good question, considering they spanked you across the South Pacific with no effort whatsoever.

>maybe we'll join the Germans next time.
Retarded boomers, both USA and UK were working for the Roths. Only the Soviet Union was a free state

we didn't punish germany. it has had similar success to japan. britain rebuilt its industry and we were besets of friends until bloody brexit.

The Soviet invasion of Manchuria began 3 days after Hiroshima.

So, it is fine to send your sons and daughters to the front, because only soldiers suffer while the rest of us enjoy civilization?

>So, it is fine to send your sons and daughters to the front, because only soldiers suffer while the rest of us enjoy civilization?

Widely seen as the first Soviet government, the Council of People’s Commissars was formed in 1917 and comprised 16 leaders, including chairman Vladimir Lenin, foreign affairs chief Leon Trotsky and Joseph Stalin, who was in charge of the People’s Commissariat of Nationalities.
This council was 80% Jewish
>Only the Soviet Union was a free state

But I am not wrong either nigger. You haven't given any arguments besides some plebbit meme
But shouldn't the strong Japanese imperial army also be present in their conquered land. The waffen SS and other elite troops were also in France and At the Soviet border for example.

>But I am not wrong
There's no arguing with stupid

>Also, the British and Americans did not do this
The Soviets couldn't have done it without Western strategic bombing.

How many tons of wheat did the Soviet Union produce the year before Socialism in Eastern Europe collapsed?

How many workers were producing something other than government?

Why do people keep thinking that the government is better than a single person deciding what is best for himself and his family?

au.af.mil/au/awc/awcgate/ww2/nazis/nazidbrf.htm

Good article of the German high command explaining defeat.

>Council of People’s Commissars was formed in 1917

Close to the same time that our American President decided that black lives don't matter, and that the only thing that matters is making sure the government is strong enough to take over your life.

Not relevant to what I was arguing
Communism is still trash

We lost every battle for 3 years until the germs started running out of supplies/men after Stalingard brainlet, even then only won in Africa with US help, da battle of britian is a meme concocted by Churchill to mask his own failure
our performance in ww2 was pathetic, sums up our degeneration as a nation

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Go read up on Stalin's purges and on Maxim Litvinov. The Roths and the SU were allies (duh) but since WW2 started the SU took advantage of the war and more or less broke off to the point that they were managing the Gosbank in 1921 and told the Roth's representatives to take a hike. Ironically the totalitarian regime of the world of the time e was a fully independent state, barring the axis

The US supplied Britain and the USSR, and also bombed Germany's factories, thereby reducing Germany's quantity of planes, tanks, guns, gasoline, etc. Intelligent people know that war is primarily a matter of logistics. And the US was the logistics. Without our aid, Great Britain would have been conquered at latest a few months after France fell. Without the second front, the supplies, or the bomber raids on Germany, Russia would have fallen soon afterwards.

I noticed my post is confusing, let me fix it a little
The gosbank was founded in 1921, and when the war started the SU took advantage of the situation to remove the Roths.

The comment is incorrect. The US was supplying Great Britain and the USSR as early as 1940.

Just look at those comparative casualties. USSR wasn't fit to fight.

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>randomly dropping bombs on civilians at night
True cowards, your folk. The Brits were the first people to carpet bomb civilians. You are as scummy as the kikes and are part of the synagogue of satan.

The effect of British strategic bombing is vastly underrated.

I must have lost your argument. I thought you were saying that Soviet production was 4.5 billion tonnes while Nazis produced 0.32 billion for the people who lived there.

Oh I'm not saying it was good or bad. I'm just saying what happened.

Umm no buddy. The British 14th army fought the japa all the way from from Burma to India and back again inflicting the heaviest defeats the Japanese army saw in the war.
The USN did defeat the jap navy though, and the usmc did some cute island hoppingz

Brexit, or the lack of it, is the reason for Amerixit back in the eighteenth century. You can never trust a British politician to do what is right for you.

>the USSR as early as 1940
Incorrect.
Great Britain was supplying the USSR before America
On March 11, 1941, American President Franklin D. Roosevelt signed the Lend-Lease bill, which permitted the U.S. to supply its anti-Hitler coalition allies with material.

It is widely accepted that the lend-lease only started kicking in after 1943 when the first major shipment arrived.
Long after The Germans failed to take Moscow and long after what most historians agree is the decisive moment of the war, The Battle of Stalingrad

quora.com/Could-the-Soviet-Union-have-defeated-the-Germans-without-U-S-support-or-Lend-Lease

This is a thread on /his/ where this is discussed often, I argued this long enough in this thread and i do not feel like writing walls of text again.
Both sides try to present their arguments.

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The US was sending thousand bomber daylight raids. If we had not supplied your "country" in the early days of the war, the Nazis would have starved you out. You would have run out of oil rather quickly, since your island doesn't produce any. No oil means no planes flying, no ships sailing, and an easy conquest of your island by the Germans. England's greatest accomplishment in the war was bravely running away at Dunkirk. In both the Asian and European theaters, you fags got your shit pushed in every single time.

Ah I see, no problem
I guess the wording might be off with that 4.478
It should just be left at 4 Million to make it easier to understand

>The only part of Europe with massive atrocities against civilians was the Soviet Union and maybe Poland.
You forgot the balkans

Also, we can look at military production as well:
For more precise numbers:

Aircraft Production

Soviet Union:
1942: 18,251 plus 4,042 lend-lease
1943: 34,637 plus 9,206 lend-lease
1943: 33,210 plus 6,459 lend-lease

Germany:
1942: 17,400
1943: 25,200
1944: 34,300

Tank Production

Soviet Union:
1942: 20,727 plus 4,582 lend-lease
1943: 28,608 plus 3,798 lend-lease
1943: 28,963 plus 3,223 lend-lease

Germany:
1942: 4,800
1943: 11,800
1944: 17,800

(Source: M Harrison, Soviet Planning in Peace and War 1938-45, Cambridge 1985)

At its peak in 1944, Allied aid to the USSR accounted for about 10% of the Soviet GNP. (Note 'Allied' - it wasn't just American aid).

Well akshully da nasshes wer da firs to bomv schiviluans wid da v2 rackit

Nope. We flew more missions for longer with bombers that carried more bombs and thusly did more damage.
Your flyboys retired after 25 missions, because of the stress of flying where you were expected to die within 8-12 missions.

RAF bomber crews had no get out. My grandfather flew 59 missions.
The survival rate was 1/3. Bomber command RAF suffered higher casualty rates than any other branch of the armed forces for Britain in ww2. After 3 missions you should be dead. Watching dopey yanks fucking about in daytime and quitting after 25 missions lol.

You had to fly in daytime because your pilots didn’t have the skill to fly mass formation bombing missions at night.

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>You forgot the Balkans
Elaborate? Source?
If you mean Greece you might have a point but I can't seem to find any major atrocities committed by the German army against other Balkan countries

Source?

This is correct

lol don't lose next time pussy, try to be less of a coward than your pussy grandfathers were

You stupid Churka, Stalin himself said the aid was invaluable
>I would like to express my candid opinion about Stalin's views on whether the Red Army and the Soviet Union could have coped with Nazi Germany and survived the war without aid from the United States and Britain. First, I would like to tell about some remarks Stalin made and repeated several times when we were "discussing freely" among ourselves. He stated bluntly that if the United States had not helped us, we would not have won the war. If we had had to fight Nazi Germany one on one, we could not have stood up against Germany's pressure, and we would have lost the war. No one ever discussed this subject officially, and I don't think Stalin left any written evidence of his opinion, but I will state here that several times in conversations with me he noted that these were the actual circumstances.

Steal the glory

You fucking didnt retard. All you did was nuke the nips which made them surrender unconditionally. Not a single American soldier stepped foot in Singapore at that time.

Then why did you even reply to me if you knew you were too dumb to exchange arguments.

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The Burma campaign was a complete joke until US support arrived. The glorious British army was stuck sitting around waiting for the rainy season to stop. More Japanese soldiers died from disease than actual fighting. British POWs numbered in the thousands. They did not achieve anything for the first 3 years, only losing land. It was a four year long campaign with little results for the majority of it.

More Japanese were killed in a single battle in the Philippines (Luzon) than died in the entire 4 year Burma campaign.

Oh, and by the way, the majority of the work, before the US was involved, was done by the Chinese. Nice job Nigel.

Funded it

I hate to link wiki articles but i dont have the time now to look for original docs. One example en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kragujevac_massacre
But the most atrocities were commited by yugos themselfs. We basically fought a 3 way civil war during the ocupation, you had pro axis groups like the croat ustase, pro king like cetniks, and ofc the commies. For example in some parts of yugoslavia the cetniks did kill a lot of vilagers for supporting the commies(not like they had the choice to not support hem), in other parts the commies did the same.

>The RAF destroyed the Luftwaffe
Ppffffttt is that why they were bombing Londanistan?

This guy comes at me with memoirs and no official statement or statistics
Are you going to post the Khrushchev memoir too you dense cretin?

>You had to fly in daytime because your pilots didn’t have the skill to fly mass formation bombing missions at night.

I'm sorry, dad, when I risked my life for your country that I didn't die. I would have died for you, but I made it home safe anyway.

I'm glad Hitler did not overtake your little island. Good for you that you protected your homeland.