A lot of you say that free speech needs to be protected no matter how hateful it seems, but would you feel the same way about the spread of threatening calls for jihad? Do you think the spread of those ideas should be protected as well?
A lot of you say that free speech needs to be protected no matter how hateful it seems...
Brandon Taylor
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Wyatt Brown
1. free speech
2. harrassment and threats
one is legal
the other is not
Caleb Garcia
Yes absolutely. Without spreading ideas how can we judge them?
Christian Bell
yes. that's what free speech means
Nicholas Ross
jihad isn't harassment. it just teaches an ideology that condones it. tarrant's words condone violence as well. so do you think it should be banned?
Charles Allen
Absolutely muslims should be encouraged to go around threatening jihad, what better way to turn the world against them
Justin Reed
read the talmud out loud
Hudson Torres
Free speech is free speech. If free speech was absolute as it should be, then calls to jihad wouldn't be a problem because there would be an equivalent and deserved response.
Mason Perez
Frankly, I'll spread jihadi calls myself. In the context of showing everyone else how evil muslims are. Censoring jihadis doesn't stop them, but showcasing their evil lets people see what it is.
Angel Rogers
Tell us about the time you met Keks.
Jayden James
Fuckin love seeing cats fuck up
Tyler Gomez
Brandon Ross
Half of us are fascists. Of course we don't support free speech.
Jaxon Reed
Don't speak for me you fucking faggot
James Sanchez
That's okay, he was only speaking for half of you.
Isaiah Reed
Most people only have problems when facts are called hate speech. They're all against violence.
Michael Gray
>A lot of you say that free speech needs to be protected no matter how hateful it seems
I don't. But I'm all for containment boards. I think the internet, as the virtual world it is, should be free.
I'm OK with any group or demographic talking shit and hating another group or demographic. As long as, again, they're containment boards. I'm not for any sort of propaganda in public platforms. That includes, not only social media, but shitcelebs being political in awards, etc.
That's my view anyway.
Adrian Hughes
you cannot control my mind
Noah Jackson
that's what you think
Evan Barnes
Bu-but “jihad” just means pursuing a better spiritual life, right? A Moderate Muslim told me that. It’s true, isn’t it?
Caleb Baker
and feminism means equality, but that's not what it is
Elijah Long
been there done that
Julian Howard
If I can't speak I have no option but to kill.
Nolan Ramirez
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Jihadi's die like everyone else, they are no different, this is why they are scared of this vid, lions they are not!
Christian Williams
Daniel Carter
Read Ohio v. Brandenburg.
Jeremiah Sullivan
thats why muslims should not be in any western country. you cant give people free speech for the purpose of destroying the very thing that gives them free speech.
and if you have a problem with "hateful" free speech then you should have a problem with left wing mass media. they are constantly berating and dehumanizing the right day in and day out.
Gavin Sanchez
Wow, over 90% threads here are created by Americans but when the thread is actually good, the flag is never American.
Yeah, as others pointed out, if you're explicitly (and presumably unironically) talking about planning to hurt a specific person, that probably has to be punishable by a fine or something (nothing major). Now, openly calling for violence against some large group (infidels/homosexuals/migrants/nazis...) but without specifics is where it gets tricky. I say let them.
Jack Gutierrez
what about literature promoting transgenderism?
Xavier Harris
like kiwi shooty man said, jihad isn't really a threat. If the jihadists of the world all got together and sailed over to invade Europe tomorrow armed to the teeth they would be routed by the end of the day. So whatever, let them yap about it.
Carter Gonzalez
yes, let everybody see and hear, what kind of people (((they))) supply with money and weapons. this would naturally end a lot of problems over night.
>The nonsense they talk can be polished up so that it not only makes a modicum of sense, but seems to be on a high moral plane. So long as the more vocal members keep their mouths shut (or can be kept away from direct contact with journalists), a fanatical movement can be excellent public relations material. They are "a valiant body of men fighting for their beliefs against overwhelming odds.
t. miles copeland
Jaxon King
Making threats to harm others or encouraging to harm others is already illegal.
Nobody is saying it should be legalised under the banner of free speech
It is clear to everyone why it should be illegal to threaten others with injury or death
However what is hate speech? There is no consistent definition of it, and it is entirely subjective, as we have seen. It's definition is entirely based around whatever some people seem to be offended by at the time.
Where as if someone says, lets go and kill all the australians, it's very clearly a threat of violence.
Adam Nelson
a threat is just an advance warning of aggression, I'm not sure why you would be against your opponent showing you their cards willingly in a poker game.
Connor Gutierrez
Someone is absolutely free to say "I am going to kill every fucking white person on earth so help me Allah", hell, I just said it, and that's fine.
If I had intent, say, if I was saying that in a mosque with an AK on my back, then it goes from simply being speech to being reasonable cause for concern.
The words themselves aren't illegal, it's the intent.
Free speech isn't bits of speech, it's absolute.
Either you can say anything and everything, then you have free speech, or you're not allowed to say some things, then what you have is restricted speech.
Image a restaurant call Free Food, (food analogy sure fuck off) that advertises everything as 100% free. You go in, and they have some stuff for free, but other stuff costs money. Not everything is free then, so it's not free food.
Being free to eat only what they say you can is not the same as being free to eat everything. The first, well, you're not free to eat anything at all. You've been given permission.
That's not free.
Liam Miller
Yes absolutely. Freedom means Freedom no matter who's practicing it. The Muslims cannot compete in a free and open marketplace of ideas, and that is why they censor their opposition.
Robert Watson
not against it. but because they've declared their intentions you might as well arrest them now instead of after they've done it