Is our civilization crashing?

Western civilization peaked in 1914

and that literally everyone except white men are victims. They would rather indulge in their narcissistic victim complexes than build or create anything useful, that's why society will fall

I have to agree.
World war 1 was a massive mistake.
Let the Germans have Europe, I care not as long as they don't threaten the Empire.

Spengler says yes.

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before that. It peaked during the enlightenment and it began to question it's spiritual foundations and begun it's tradition of over-rationalizing life itself. thats when it lost it's confidence in it's own way of life.

The collapse is already happening. It has already started. Average IQ in the US has already dropped by 5 points since the 1960s. It's a combination of a few factors

*smart white people not breeding at replacement levels so high IQ individuals are becoming fewer and are not pushing the average up
*cletus tier whites are the only whites having kids, lowering the average IQ
*80-90 IQ average immigrants flooding in from central america
*80-90 IQ immigrants and their kids breeding above replacement levels

The country is already, literally dumber. The problem is that a 100 average IQ is what it takes to have a "first world" country. A 90 average IQ gives you a second world shithole country, central america, brazil.. gated communities surrounded by ghettos. An 80 average IQ gives you an africa tier shithole.

Why does it take a 100 average IQ to have a first world country? First off 95% of it is maintaining what is there. If you stop maintaining the infrastructure flat out, it is gone in days. Think of africa where they can't keep the fucking power on. Even "dumb" occupations that urban cock-suckers look down on like plumbers. You can't have an 80 IQ plumber and it's iffy even at 90. The way it works usually is you have a foreman who is 115-120 IQ. 90-100 IQ plumbers are more labor. An 80 IQ simpleton you're either going to run off the jobsite or you have them on a very big job doing the absolute simplest tasks.

So with this in mind look at the US starting to collapse. You have a typhus epedimic at city hall in los angeles. The second wealthiest city, the halls of power... you now have a typhus epidemic. LA is now a shithole country. San Francisco has lost basic sanitation, people shit in the street there. San Fran is now a shithole country. There was a hepatits outbreak in San Diego. I'm out of characters but you can watch the US turning into a brazil tier shithole country one city at a time.

Germany and Europe saw Europe declining, but underestimated America's ability to keep civilization running. Now America is declining, and our last hope is literally China. If China can't keep civilization propped up, then it's game over this time.

Nothing will collapse, you are just saying the same shit over and over again since 2015.

slow collapse. its not an instant event just a decline in living standards and end to white europeans being autonomous.

It peaked in like 1889

>Will our civilization crash this time?
what do you mean by 'crash'? western civilization will not fall back to the neolithic. but 18th century is very likely
>Or do we have too much infrastructure for that to occur now?
rome had infrastructure, too. the complexity of infrastructure is one of the main reasons for the crash of civilizations. with increasing complexity, the susceptibility to errors/failures also increases. at some point, the costs for maintaining an increasing complexity will exceed the benefit, which marks the turning point.

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>but 18th century is very likely
No way, the technology isn't going to disappear and electronics are going to keep working. Crash means early XX century at worst, as lack of oil forces people to go back to horses temporarily. I have the entire wikipedia on my smartphone which is probably enough to rebuild civilization in few decades.

peterson had some points relating to IQ and the labor market. these are interesting aspects when considering the elimination of low-wage work through automation.
youtube.com/watch?v=X6yLIdBikmI

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>>the institution of marriage is compromised
>>birth rates are below replacement level
You know what's going to happen? Artificial wombs, robot maid/nannies, anti-aging treatments, human genetic modification, cloning. There'll probably be some kind of self-cleaning diaper, and cribs you can leave an infant in for months unattended, and find the baby happy and healthy at the end of it. Technology will take the risk and drudgery out of reproduction, and the consequences of delaying marriage until late in life.

Nonwhite people will want their children to have good genes, so they'll make them a little whiter. Then their children will make their own children a little whiter. Then their children's children will say, "What is the point of preserving the inferior part of my genetic heritage? Why stain my children as my parents stained me? I'm as much white as [whatever flavor of nonwhite] and I want my children to have the best lives they can have!" and they'll have not just fully white children, but gene-selected white children, effectively descendants of our very best.

Whites didn't spontaneously evolve in isolation, white features won in a competitive sexual market. When nonwhite societies have access to white women, their elites turn white, and then gradually their infidelity whitens the lower classes. That will accelerate dramatically as technology enables it.

>Crash means early XX century at worst, as lack of oil forces people to go back to horses temporarily.
without the cheapest energy ever available to humanity to replace muscle-power, no civilization can be rebuilt, whose rapid growth was based on the availability of this energy.

>wikipedia probably enough to rebuild civilization in few decades.
that means 'potential' access to knowledge. but you neither got the knowledge to repair this "magical machina" in the case the screen or the cpu breaks, nor have you the knowledge or the ressources to rebuild it from scratch.

The civilization is too big to crash. Too many persons who know their shit ready to step in if needed. At best, the civilization will only sway in the wind of time.

Societies collapse, civilizations don't.

>technology isn't going to disappear.
and so aren't the the nuclear fuel rods which must be cooled. by whom? with which energy?

>>the institution of marriage is compromised
People still get married
>>birth rates are below replacement level
So what? Endless growth is a meme. The population naturally fluctuates. People are still having children.
>>corporations are shilling for women in the workplace, alternative lifestyles, literally everything except monogamous marriage
Nothing anti-civilization in itself
>>the church, the would be purveyor of morality and decency, is run by evil pedophiles
Religious leaders have always been closet corrupted.
>>white neighborhoods are virtually nonexistent
Move out of your shithole.
>>dating apps
Go on.

>you can leave an infant in for months unattended, and find the baby happy and healthy at the end of it.
The absolute fucking state of leafs. What a mad lad.

>lack of oil forces people to go back to horses temporarily
lol wut? Where will to oil go? You can make oil from virtually any organic waste, or just scrape it off the frozen tundra. If 'muh massive global warming' is real, all that arctic oil will be prime for the pumping as well.

Anything Into Oil:
>Turkey guts, junked car parts, and even raw sewage go in one end of this plant, and black gold comes out the other end.
discovermagazine.com/2006/apr/anything-oil

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